From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Nov 6 13:53:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA16626 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:53:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat) Received: from freebsd.ntu.edu.tw (freebsd.ntu.edu.tw [140.112.1.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA16607 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:52:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from woju@freebsd.ntu.edu.tw) From: woju@freebsd.ntu.edu.tw Received: (qmail 6521 invoked by uid 9999); 6 Nov 1997 21:53:16 -0000 Date: 6 Nov 1997 21:53:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19971106215316.6520.qmail@freebsd.ntu.edu.tw> Reply-To: woju@freebsd.ntu.edu.tw To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD CDROMs in Taiwan (forwarded) X-Disclaimer: FreeBSD 俱樂部對本信內容恕不負責。 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk : One of the most famous shareware(or freeware)-CD makers in Taiwan, : HopeNet, ask me to make 2 FreeBSD cdroms for them. And i've planed to include These days, i've encountered LOTS of trouble deciding what is PROPER to be put into those CDROMs, and most of the trobles are COPYRIGHT-related problems. First, the Chinese BIG5-fonts' copyright is somewhat confusing; and later, more and more "confusing-copyrights" are found, in ports or distfiles. Most of them state like this: "For non-profit or non-commercial distribution (or using) only..." i'm not sure whether making FreeBSD-CDROMs & later selling those CDROMs via shareware(or freeware)-CDROM distributing company, is "commercial"(profit) using or not. Those CDROMs would be sold at proper price: 2 CDs, US $10. And it should be helpful making FreeBSD POPULAR (in Taiwan). However, the CDs are sold (distributed) by "a company"(HopeNet), make it looks like "commercial using." The more "copyright notice" i've seen(except for FreeBSD COPYRIGHT & GNU GPL), the more worried i become, and feel that i'm proberbly doing something "illegal" :( The Chinese BIG5-font, again, is really a BIG issue when it's copyright is concerned. Most UNIX Chinese-BIG5 environment use taipei* or et* fonts, and the copyright is belong to ETEN(www.eten.com.tw). i've written some mails to eten applying for leagl(or proper) right including et-related fonts in the FreeBSD-CDROMs, and the boss(or high-level manager) of HopeNet is now helping to talk with ETEN's boss about this issue. Hope that et-related fonts can become "really free fonts", or at least "leagl"(safe) used in FreeBSD. Most ports/chinese in FreeBSD using Chinese BIG5-fonts have the "problem": big5con: using taipei* fonts (which are converted from et* fonts) big5fonts: using taipei* fonts (whcih are converted from et* fonts) cxterm: using et* fonts The more "copyright-relaed" problems i've experienced, the more i appreciate "Free"BSD & "Free" Software Foundation. "Free" is really good and important! "Free" is even more important in commercial using, people won't buy a product with lots of (copyright-related)troubles. Any comments are welcome. Best regards, woju .