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Date:      Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:31:01 -0400
From:      Diane Bruce <db@db.net>
To:        Kevin Oberman <oberman@es.net>
Cc:        Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Mark Kamichoff <prox@prolixium.com>
Subject:   Re: BIND9 built w/--disable-ipv6 on 8.1-STABLE
Message-ID:  <20100921193101.GA95238@night.db.net>
In-Reply-To: <20100921191517.AF60A1CC3D@ptavv.es.net>
References:  <4C98F433.6070506@FreeBSD.org> <20100921191517.AF60A1CC3D@ptavv.es.net>

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On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:15:17PM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:06:43 -0700
> > From: Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>
> > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
> > 
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> > On 9/21/2010 4:43 AM, Mark Kamichoff wrote:
> > | On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 03:34:05PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
> > |> | Although, that still does beg the question,
> > |>
> > |> No, it doesn't. :) See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beg_the_question
> > |
> > | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beg_the_question#Modern_usage
> > 
> > Yes, especially the last bit, "Usage commentators have deemed using the
> > term in this way to be incorrect." :)
> 
> Sadly, I must note that Edwin Newman
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Newman) passed away last month. I

All I would add is:
http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=693
http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2290

> fear the common, totally illogical use of this phrase is now a lost
> cause. I could care less (not sic).

It is annoying yes. Language changes underneath us though.

> > |> | why don't we want IPv6 enabled by default on new BIND installations?
> > |>
> > |> It has to do with whether or not IPv6 support is compiled into the
> > |> FreeBSD base system which is compiling BIND. If the configure option
...
> > If I'm still alive when IPv6 is the norm and IPv4 is the exception, I
> > promise to give it another look. :)

IPv6 is more prevalent than you think. I can't understand the illogic
of turning it off.

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