From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Sep 30 11:22:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18454 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:22:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from essential.essential.org (essential.org [198.4.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA18402 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:22:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from love@cptech.org) Received: from cptech.org (jamie@tap.essential.org [198.4.52.9]) by essential.essential.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA15322; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:25:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36127561.48BA1020@cptech.org> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:16:01 -0400 From: James Love Organization: http://www.cptech.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.34 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" CC: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Device Drivers for Linux and Intel's annoucement References: <23307.907176696@time.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It would seem to me that there is a very symbiotic relationship between Linux/FreeBSD/NetBSD etc... won't the success of one help the other platform... since they are so simliar? jamie Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > [Redirected just to -chat; for the last time, cross posting is not desired!] > > > Oh-oh. Guys, it looks as if Intel is throwing its hat in the > > Linux arena and is guaranteeing help with the development of > > device drivers. But there's no mention of it doing the same > > for any of the *BSDs. Will this consign them to permanent > > second-class status? > > No. And what's with all the chicken-little stuff going around these > days, guys? It's really self-defeating and rather unnecessary to > boot. If nobody is embracing free software, we cry and moan. If > people are embracing free software, but just not our particular flavor > of the moment, we cry and moan some more. Conveniently forgotten in > all of this is the fact that this is all new territory for the likes > of Intel and OF COURSE they're going to go courting the Linux folks as > an obvious first choice because they are, well, the obvious first > choice. > > Being the first and obvious choice comes from having millions of users > and lots of magazine coverage and LOTS and LOTS of BOOKS in the > bookstores and all the other indicators which people with suits on are > bound to look at before jumping into any new fad (and let's face it, > that's what we're looking at right now). People aren't going to start > knocking down our doors with movie deals and autograph books just > because we all really really want that to happen or because we know > FreeBSD Is The Right Solution or any of that stuff, it'll happen when > a certain critical mass has been achieved and the time for that to > happen has been reached. > > Personally, I think people need to get busy in the book department if > they want to see FreeBSD start going places faster (or they need to be > content with it getting there not quite as fast). All this kvetching > in mailing lists that Opinion Leaders(tm) don't even read doesn't get > us anywhere. > > - Jordan -- James Love, Consumer Project on Technology P.O. Box 19367, Washington, DC 20036 202.387.8030; f 202.234.5176 http://www.cptech.org, mailto:love@cptech.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message