From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 17 14:44:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C43A16A41B for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:44:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from entwistle.sonicboom.org (entwistle.sonicboom.org [66.93.34.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE2C13C455 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:44:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (cele.sonicboom.org [66.93.34.172]) by entwistle.sonicboom.org (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBHEiRLj020490; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 06:44:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Message-ID: <47668B49.7050804@brianwhalen.net> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 06:44:25 -0800 From: Brian User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" References: <4766650C.4020305@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4766650C.4020305@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Request for Features: Ports Re-engineering X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:44:33 -0000 Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > In order to finalize the general nature of the ports re-engineering > effort this thread is designed to specifically explore the features > people want to see. > > Please supply one or more of the following: > > * Up to 4 user stories of how you would like to use the ports system > (may or may not be possible in the current one) > * Up to 4 use cases for how you would like to interact with the ports > system > * Up to 4 features/requirements you think the new system should have > * Up to 4 features/requirements that you feel *MUST* remain from the > current system > * Any non-functional requirements you can think of > > - -- > Aryeh M. Friedman > FloSoft Systems > http://www.flosoft-systems.com > Developer, not business, friendly > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFHZmUMzIOMjAek4JIRAs65AJ9Ec8YXmimuD85Z9F16Qd/zr1UcLwCgi5RU > fD1RamBRb+AZEMeIoM+JNqE= > =ND0O > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I dont use X on FreeBSD, so cannot comment on al th Xorg stuff. Keeping in mind that I believe it is appropriate for this new tool to make it at lest a little easier on new users, while still giving them valuable info, I suggest the following. 1. I would like for the new equivalent of portupgrade -P to actually find and install packages more often than building ports, currently this is not the case, for me at least. 2. If the tool implemented the functionality of fastest_cvsup when downloading files from FreeBSD servers, users would likely see a performance improvement, and FreeBSD would likely see better load distribution. 3. System changes that are necessary for proper functionality are delivered via email to a specified email address or to some easy to find and refer to file, with the option to have them done by the install routine if the user desires that. 4. Log of what ports were installed/upgraded/downgraded at what time. Brian