From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jun 26 04:57:34 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA09715 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 04:57:34 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA09709 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 04:57:33 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA10968 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 04:57:24 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de with SMTP (5.67b+/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA02641; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 13:54:49 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id NAA10253 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 13:54:40 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA22961 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 13:12:27 +0200 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199506261112.NAA22961@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: weird filesystem state (cannot remove files) To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 13:12:27 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers) In-Reply-To: <199506260842.SAA15694@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Jun 26, 95 06:12:05 pm Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1031 Sender: hackers-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As Michael Smith wrote: > > > Si, seņor. Make install sets the immutable flag. :-] (That's why > > i'm never using it, caused me some flamage in Usenet...) > > man chflags. chflags is your friend; wonderful way to create a > write-only .history file for PA sites with stupid users. Of course. But i'm simply too lazy to run chflags all over the day, and the stupid ``just backup the old kernel to /kernel.old'' approach is often too unflexible for me. I used to have several different kernels lying around while developing some device driver etc., and there's absolutely no need to save a kernel that just proved to be broken (and thereby destroying the valuable /kernel.old!), so i'm normally clobbering such kernels, even if it's the currently running one. Anyway i realize, the ``make install'' approach including the immutable flag is a Good Thing (tm) for the casual user. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)