From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 0: 9: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from Hydro.CAM.ORG (Hydro.CAM.ORG [198.168.100.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CAB3151D6 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 00:09:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from intmktg@CAM.ORG) Received: from cam.org (intmktg.HIP.CAM.ORG [204.19.190.173]) by Hydro.CAM.ORG (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id DAA24045 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 03:08:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <380038E3.6F851524@cam.org> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 02:57:39 -0400 From: Marc Tardif X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: apache+php+mod_ssl from ports on boot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to install apache+php+mod_ssl from the ports, which is all from the FreeBSD-CURRENT distribution which I have installed by passive ftp today. Everything went fine, though the mod_ssl version included seems a bit outdated. The problem is that apache.sh won't start on boot nor from the command line. Here are my steps: cd /usr/ports/www/apache13-php3 make USA_RESIDENT=NO (selected my sql server, zlib and mod_ssl) make certificate (selected RSA and type 3) make install reboot Possible problems: 1. Network could be down, but my gateway is up, running properly and sendmail starts fine. 2. Oddly, it seems there are no httpd.conf-dist files, except in /usr/ports/www/apache13-php3/work/apache... shouldn't those files be moved during 'make install' to /usr/local/share/apache or /usr/local/apache? The later directory doesn't seem to exist, though it is mentioned in the apache manpage. 3. Maybe ssl needs more configuration than 'make certificate'. I'm not familiar with ssl at all, but I have tried to read some documentation and it's not for the faint of heart. Apart from those three possibilities, I'm at a loss... any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 0:52:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from netcreate.net (mail.netcreate.net [206.170.119.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2828015104 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 00:52:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from justinwang@netcreate.net) Received: from netcreate.net [207.212.91.178] by netcreate.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id AC411060126; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 00:12:01 -0700 Message-ID: <38003C06.A316107D@netcreate.net> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 00:11:03 -0700 From: Justin Wang X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: x windows and mouse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Does anyone know if I can somehow run X windows without a mouse. We do not have a mouse on our servers and everytime that I try to boot into X, it shuts down because it cannot find a mouse. Any info will greatly appreciated. I'm a newbie. Thanks, Justin Wang justinwang@netcreate.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 1:54:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0DF71551B for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 01:51:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id LAA60233; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:50:27 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:50:27 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Gene Raytsin Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: natd Message-ID: <19991010115027.A56369@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Gene Raytsin , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Gene Raytsin on Fri, Oct 08, 1999 at 01:52:33PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 08, 1999 at 01:52:33PM -0400, Gene Raytsin wrote: > Hey, got a question > if I use natd with pppd what interface i should use with it? ppp0 or xl0? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Then obviously you should be using ppp0. > and what about ipfw add divert ...via ? > The same one (assuming that ppp0 is your public interface). Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 2:14:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web109.yahoomail.com (web109.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CB61714C9D for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 02:14:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from osiris2002@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19991010091615.13353.rocketmail@web109.yahoomail.com> Received: from [168.187.17.4] by web109.yahoomail.com; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 02:16:15 PDT Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 02:16:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Joss Roots Subject: Greg Lehey: You're the BEST (Follow up Kppp vs pppd for slow connection) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG (WAS: someone authoritative answer this freebsd question) hi there Thanks for all the great souls that helped me solve this headache. I am using userland ppp now, and its giving me good results, the downloads are much faster now. One poiint here, Dr. GRORG LEHEY :-) mentioned some questions about how I am measuring the connection speed. well you are in a better place to tell me how to measure the throughput, and connection speed, since I dont have a clue, I am thinking of things like pppstat or things alike, so you may help by suggesting other software. So, now I got the speed I wanted, is it possible that pppd and not kppp, that was causing this, since kppp is merely an interface to pppd, how to make sure which was the cause. again thanks to AALL who helped, any POSITIVE feedback is greatly welcome. ===== MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 2:30:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.atl.bellsouth.net (mail2.atl.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F27154C2 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 02:30:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from allenc@mindsieve.com) Received: from spamer_death (adsl-77-225-87.atl.bellsouth.net [216.77.225.87]) by mail2.atl.bellsouth.net (3.3.4alt/0.75.2) with SMTP id FAA17910; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 05:30:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991010053019.007ebc00@mindsieve.com> X-Sender: allenc@mindsieve.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 05:30:19 -0400 To: "Edirol" , From: Allen Cleveland Subject: Re: kernel arp errors In-Reply-To: <001301bf12eb$cbb34040$0300a8c0@anime.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 02:50 AM 10/10/99 -0400, Edirol wrote: >Hi, > >Once in a while I seem to be getting this error message in my logs. > >Oct 9 21:32:58 schala /kernel: arp: 192.168.0.2 is on ed0 but got reply >from 00:40:05:a9:88:45 on ed1 > >Sometimes 192.168.0.X comes up too. I suspect this has something to do >with the @home cable service that I'm using. Does anyone know how I can >stop this error from reoccuring? While I may not have the techinical jargon to explain whats happening, I can give you a general idea. Basically, someone on your subnet has thier 'modem' plugged into a hub. All the LAN traffic is goin out over the cable modem connection instead of being properly routed within the LAN itself. What your seeing is someone else's computer telling your subnet that it has the 192.168.0.2 address, and arp see's that IP address is on your LAN. You can try to send your ISP the message, and tell them what I've said here, and they *might* take the time to figure out who has an incorrectly set up LAN. Otherwise, you could assign your LAN some different non routed IP's in the 192.168 subnet, such as 198.168.34.12 . As far as I know, there isn't a way to filter this message out. In any event, it's better to know that someone has a misconfigured LAN, than not know. >ed0 is for my local network at home and ed1 is my cable modem. > >The netmask for my ed1 device is set to 255.255.252.0 as that was what was >provided by @home. > >Thanks, >- Will > >Here is my ifconfig -a output: > >ed0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 > ether 00:80:c6:f8:98:6f >ed1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 24.112.80.104 netmask 0xfffffc00 broadcast 24.112.83.255 > ether 00:e0:29:16:71:7f >lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 -- Allen Cleveland allenc@mindsieve.com There is no try. Do, or do not do, but no try. -Yoda To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 2:53:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E060A15177 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 02:53:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.037 #1) id 11aFel-000Je0-00; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:52:43 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: vlad Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/book.html In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 04 Oct 1999 00:11:23 +0300." <199910032111.AAA00356@groove.akcecc.kiev.ua> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:52:42 +0200 Message-ID: <75515.939549162@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 00:11:23 +0300, vlad wrote: > How can I setup pppd? Please with the sript file!!! The most common answer to your frequently asked question (http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/book.html#PPP) is this: Don't use kernel ppp. :-) Rather use the very well maintained userland ppp. The following reference will be useful: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ppp-and-slip.html#USERPPP If you need documentation with more of a hand-holding angle, try this: http://flag.blackened.net/freebsd/ Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 3:11:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79AE3155DE for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 03:10:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.037 #1) id 11aFw4-000Jj0-00; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:10:36 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: jason Cc: cjclark@home.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hiding directories on ftp server In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 09 Oct 1999 15:56:27 -0400." Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:10:36 +0200 Message-ID: <75825.939550236@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 09 Oct 1999 15:56:27 -0400, jason wrote: > I wanted the directory to not be visible (as well as the files in it).. So apply your brain to the problem and take it one step further. :-) You already know that removing read permission on a directory makes its contents invisible, right? So: cd /path/to/ftp/directory mkdir arb chmod 751 arb mkdir arb/leech chmod 751 arb/leech If your ftp users are in the group of the user creating these directories, then you should use mode 711 instead of 751. Ciao, Sheldon. PS: You could simplify the commands above, but I wanted to make sure you understand what's happening. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 3:38:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web705.mail.yahoo.com (web705.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E36B415575 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 03:37:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from souhail_t@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19991010104534.18014.rocketmail@web705.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.126.12.214] by web705.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 03:45:34 PDT Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 03:45:34 -0700 (PDT) From: souhail tawil Subject: How To To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Would you please instruct me how to download Unix OS I am a new user,I heard too mush about this operating system and I would like to try it. Thank you in advance. Souhail ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 4:14:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E561015185 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 04:14:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.198.50]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA19B9; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:14:05 +0200 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA42515; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:14:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:14:20 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: "Horst H.G. Weber" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Problems with ISDN and 3c900 nic: "xl0: watchdog timeout" !? Message-ID: <19991010131420.G41010@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <28f35376.u10t12e.9c41-webbasan@snafu.muc.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <28f35376.u10t12e.9c41-webbasan@snafu.muc.de> Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On [19991009 21:48], Horst H.G. Weber (webbasan@snafu.muc.de) wrote: >I'm currently running FreeBSD 3.1 and I tried to install isdn4bsd, >version 0.83. A while after successfully compiling and booting the >kernel with ISDN support, I discovered that I had a problem. > >I'm currently preparing to upgrade to version 3.3 -- but since upgrading >is a very time consuming process on this machine I only do it if it >seems very desirable for me. But I'm suspicious if this will help to >solve my problem... Well, one thing I can tell you is that Bill Paul did change some things with regard to the xl driver from 3.1 to 3.3 so that might at least be a reason to. Also, 3.3 has i4b in it which has been greatly modified from what I see in the logfiles. So you might do good to upgrade. =) HTH, -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best Any fool can make a rule And every fool will mind it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 4:19:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA4315417 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 04:19:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.198.50]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA206E; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:19:14 +0200 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA42529; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:19:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:19:28 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Tom Stewart Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CPU Issue... Message-ID: <19991010131928.H41010@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <38003C26.453DAE9D@mho.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <38003C26.453DAE9D@mho.net> Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On [19991010 12:00], Tom Stewart (tstewart@mho.net) wrote: >Question: Is the FreeBSD OS compatible with AMD K6-2, K6-3, and K7 >series processors? K6 series, yes. K7 series I think as well. HTH, -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best For country, children, hearth, and home. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 4:22:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4563F15596 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 04:22:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.198.50]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA1EB6; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:22:12 +0200 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA42543; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:22:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:22:24 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Justin Wang Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: x windows and mouse Message-ID: <19991010132224.I41010@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <38003C06.A316107D@netcreate.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <38003C06.A316107D@netcreate.net> Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On [19991010 12:00], Justin Wang (justinwang@netcreate.net) wrote: >Does anyone know if I can somehow run X windows without a mouse. We do >not have a mouse on our servers and everytime that I try to boot into X, >it shuts down because it cannot find a mouse. /etc/XF86Config Play around with Section "Pointer". Probably removing the entries altogether. HTH, -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best Man is the measure of all things. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 4:24:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from monsoon.mail.pipex.net (monsoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 387BA151E9 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 04:23:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mik.thwaite@dial.pipex.com) Received: (qmail 16750 invoked from network); 10 Oct 1999 11:23:54 -0000 Received: from userk117.uk.uudial.com (HELO mik) (194.69.100.201) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 1999 11:23:54 -0000 Message-ID: <002601bf1311$483d1e40$4a741cac@SUNDERLAND> From: "Mik Thwaite" To: , Subject: Was : Installing two NICs Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 05:35:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for the advice, I now have it up and running as a gateway after 3 or 4 kernel rebuilds to get it as right as possible. Turns out the port and irq settings were different to the ones being probed. Cheers, Mik To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 4:25:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FDA15148 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 04:25:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.198.50]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA3F4; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:25:44 +0200 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA42559; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:25:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:25:58 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Dann Lunsford Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PCI sound devices Message-ID: <19991010132558.J41010@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <19991009194925.A353@mach.greycat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <19991009194925.A353@mach.greycat.com> Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On [19991010 08:00], Dann Lunsford (dann@greycat.com) wrote: >I've got a Toshiba laptop with builtin PCI sound device. Said device is >a ESS ES1978 based thing, claiming to be SBPRO compatible. This comming >from Toshiba, it is almost certainly a lie, but for now let's pretend we >believe it. Here;s what pciconf -l has to say about it: > >none0@pci0:12:0: class=0x040100 card=0x00011179 chip=0x1978125d rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 > >Anybody got a clue as to how I can get this working under FreeBSD? I've been >reading code all day, and I *think* I can see where to start, but if someone >else has working code, I would ****REALLY**** appreciate seeing it! The ess1978 is not yet supported for all I know. You could, if you dare it and think you could manage, move to CURRENT and help Cameron Grant out by testing his newpcm driver. You could also send his any docs you got, programming docs of course, so that he can try his hand at it. HTH, -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best Account ye no man happy till he die. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 5:36:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from typhoon.mail.pipex.net (typhoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6168F14EA6 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 05:35:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: (qmail 21857 invoked from network); 10 Oct 1999 12:35:41 -0000 Received: from usercb73.uk.uudial.com (HELO marder-1.) (62.188.150.240) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 1999 12:35:41 -0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id NAA01229; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:35:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:35:28 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Joe Pepin Cc: FBSDQuestion Subject: Re: Looking for reference for upgrading 3.2-R to 3.3-S. Message-ID: <19991010133528.A1173@marder-1> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 08, 1999 at 02:43:13PM +0100, Joe Pepin wrote: > Hello, all. I am running FBSD 3.2-R on a machine with no network > connection. > It is about to get one, and I would like to know where I can go to read > about exactly how to CVSup and make my upgrade to STABLE. I have The > Complete FreeBSD (3Rd ed.) and it seems to go through how to do this for > CURRENT very well, but I don't want to mess anything up, and am still a bit > confused as to where exactly I should point cvs, and then what I'll need to > watch out for. I am running vinum, and have done some customization to > rc.local and whatnot. > Take a look at http://www.polstra.com/projects/freeware/CVSup/faq.html and "Staying Stable with FreeBSD" in the Handbook. > TIA, > > Joe Pepin > ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= > Joe Pepin > Network Systems Engineer > Security Practice > International Network Services > http://www.ins.com/ > “The Knowledge Behind the Network” > The views/opinions expressed above are not > necessarily those of my employer, but they > probably should be. > ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- STATE-OF-THE-ART: Any computer you can't afford. OBSOLETE: Any computer you own. ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 5:55:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from out4.prserv.net (out4.prserv.net [165.87.194.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F8314D01 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 05:55:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gasparr@attglobal.net) Received: from attglobal.net (slip139-92-192-170.por.uk.ibm.net [139.92.192.170]) by out4.prserv.net (/) with ESMTP id MAA116218 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:54:38 GMT Message-ID: <38008C35.3B2FAC62@attglobal.net> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:53:09 +0100 From: Peter Gasparro Reply-To: gasparr@attglobal.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-TW MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Problem including Adaptec 1510 driver under 3.2-RELEASE Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------8DA1F1CFF7DD7E608136D05C" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------8DA1F1CFF7DD7E608136D05C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I get an error "ioconf.o(.data+0xd0): undefined reference to `aicdriver'" when doing a "make". Please find attached a screen print (krnlprob.txt) of the end of the "make" and the kernel config file NOW as evidence of this. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance Peter --------------8DA1F1CFF7DD7E608136D05C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="krnlprob.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="krnlprob.txt" pc.c ../../libkern/strcat.c ../../libkern/strcmp.c ../../libkern/strcpy.c ../.. /libkern/strlen.c ../../libkern/strncmp.c ../../libkern/strncpy.c ../../libkern /udivdi3.c ../../libkern/umoddi3.c ../../pci/ide_pci.c swapkernel.c ioconf.c pa ram.c vnode_if.c config.c mkdep -a -f .newdep -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wn ested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -DVM_STACK -include opt_global.h ../../i38 6/i386/genassym.c env MKDEP_CPP="cc -E" mkdep -a -f .newdep -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -Wr eturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-pro totypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../includ e -DKERNEL -DVM_STACK -include opt_global.h -elf ../../i386/apm/apm_setup.s ../ ../i386/i386/bioscall.s ../../i386/i386/exception.s ../../i386/i386/globals.s ../../i386/i386/support.s ../../i386/i386/swtch.s ../../i386/i386/locore.s rm -f .depend mv -f .newdep .depend freebsd# make loading kernel ioconf.o(.data+0xd0): undefined reference to `aicdriver' *** Error code 1 Stop. freebsd# --------------8DA1F1CFF7DD7E608136D05C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="Now" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Now" # # GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks # # For more information read the handbook part System Administration -> # Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel -> The Configuration File. # The handbook is available in /usr/share/doc/handbook or online as # latest version from the FreeBSD World Wide Web server # # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT. # # $Id: GENERIC,v 1.143.2.12 1999/05/14 15:12:26 jkh Exp $ machine "i386" #cpu "I386_CPU" cpu "I486_CPU" #cpu "I586_CPU" #cpu "I686_CPU" ident NOW maxusers 32 options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MFS_ROOT #MFS usable as root device, "MFS" req'ed options NFS #Network Filesystem options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, "NFS" req'ed options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options "CD9660_ROOT" #CD-ROM usable as root. "CD9660" req'ed options PROCFS #Process filesystem options QUOTA options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=5000 #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options FAILSAFE #Be conservative options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor config kernel root on wd0 # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed #options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel #options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O # Optionally these may need tweaked, (defaults shown): #options NCPU=2 # number of CPUs #options NBUS=4 # number of busses #options NAPIC=1 # number of IO APICs #options NINTR=24 # number of INTs controller isa0 controller pnp0 controller eisa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 options "CMD640" # work around CMD640 chip deficiency controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus options ATAPI_STATIC #Don't do it as an LKM device acd0 #IDE CD-ROM device wfd0 #IDE Floppy (e.g. LS-120) # A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc) is # sufficient for any number of installed devices. #controller ncr0 #controller ahb0 #controller ahc0 controller isp0 # This controller offers a number of configuration options, too many to # document here - see the LINT file in this directory and look up the # dpt0 entry there for much fuller documentation on this. controller dpt0 # controller adv0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? # controller adw0 #controller bt0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? # controller aha0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? controller aic0 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 controller scbus0 at aic0 device sd0 at scbus0 target 0 device da0 device sa0 device pass0 device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows #device wt0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 #device mcd0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10 #controller matcd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio #device scd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio # atkbdc0 controlls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1 #device psm0 at isa? tty irq 12 device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? tty # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? tty #options XSERVER # support for X server #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std device npx0 at isa? port IO_NPX irq 13 # # Laptop support (see LINT for more options) # device apm0 at isa? disable flags 0x31 # Advanced Power Management # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support #controller card0 #device pcic0 at card? #device pcic1 at card? device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" flags 0x10 tty irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 device sio2 at isa? disable port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 device sio3 at isa? disable port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? port? flags 0x40 net irq 7 controller ppbus0 device lpt0 at ppbus? device plip0 at ppbus? device ppi0 at ppbus? #controller vpo0 at ppbus? # # The following Ethernet NICs are all PCI devices. # #device ax0 # ASIX AX88140A #device de0 # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') #device fxp0 # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) #device mx0 # Macronix 98713/98715/98725 (``PMAC'') #device pn0 # Lite-On 82c168/82c169 (``PNIC'') #device rl0 # RealTek 8129/8139 #device tl0 # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN #device tx0 # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'') #device vr0 # VIA Rhine, Rhine II #device vx0 # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') #device wb0 # Winbond W89C840F #device xl0 # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 #device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 #device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 #device ex0 at isa? port? net irq? #device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ? #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 #device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0 # device ze0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 # device zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 #device cs0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ? pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device sl 1 pseudo-device ppp 1 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's # KTRACE enables the system-call tracing facility ktrace(2). # This adds 4 KB bloat to your kernel, and slightly increases # the costs of each syscall. options KTRACE #kernel tracing # This provides support for System V shared memory and message queues. # options SYSVSHM options SYSVMSG options SYSVSEM # The `bpfilter' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. Be # aware of the legal and administrative consequences of enabling this # option. The number of devices determines the maximum number of # simultaneous BPF clients programs runnable. #pseudo-device bpfilter 4 #Berkeley packet filter pseudo-device speaker --------------8DA1F1CFF7DD7E608136D05C-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 6:11:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hobby.digiware.nl (cgmd76163.chello.nl [212.83.76.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F051814C37 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 06:11:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wjw@hobby.digiware.nl) Received: (from wjw@localhost) by hobby.digiware.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA32220 for questions@freeBsd.org; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 15:18:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wjw) From: Willem Jan Withagen Message-Id: <199910101318.PAA32220@hobby.digiware.nl> Subject: Strange loggings during make buildworld To: questions@freeBsd.org Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 15:18:36 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: wjw@iae.nl Reply-To: wjw@digiware.nl X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm trying to do a 'make -j 8 buildworld' on a 3.3-release box, and I'm getting: Oct 10 15:13:55 hobby /kernel: pid 32115 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Oct 10 15:13:55 hobby /kernel: spec_getpages: preposterous offset 0xffffffd881cdd000 Oct 10 15:13:55 hobby /kernel: vm_fault: pager read error, pid 32102 (as) Oct 10 15:13:55 hobby /kernel: pid 32102 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Oct 10 15:13:56 hobby /kernel: spec_getpages: preposterous offset 0xffffffd881cdd000 Oct 10 15:13:56 hobby /kernel: vm_fault: pager read error, pid 32134 (as) Oct 10 15:13:56 hobby /kernel: pid 32134 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Anybody an idea where this could be caused. Note that restarting the make, gives the same "trouble" right away on the first cc. Thanx, --WjW To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 6:12:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www.ASPI.net (ns.ASPI.net [207.228.215.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 313A8150B1 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 06:12:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from petersen@aspi.net) Received: from aspi.net (Dialup-139.ASPI.NET [206.183.149.139]) by www.ASPI.net (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA22618 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:12:43 -0400 Message-ID: <380091C4.C97105BA@aspi.net> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:16:52 -0400 From: Carl Petersen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Compilers and libs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, When I compile an application with gcc295 and link to some lib that was built with gcc272 I get unresolved symbols. If I rebuild the library all is good but now apps compiled with gcc272 can't use the new lib. I think I see why. Is there anyway out of this situation other than rebuild everything with the new compiler and must must "make world" still use the 272 compiler? Thanks, --Carl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 7: 0:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E29814C02 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 07:00:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id QAA02376 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 16:00:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id DAA01732; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 03:20:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Message-ID: <19991010032016.13459@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 03:20:16 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: [shayman@uniserve.com: FreeBSD Laptop] Reply-To: shayman@uniserve.com, questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Forwarded message from Fergus Hayman ----- Message-ID: <001001bf11ed$ec84a2e0$0100a8c0@WORKGROUP> From: "Fergus Hayman" To: Subject: FreeBSD Laptop Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 17:33:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Status: RO Content-Length: 936 Lines: 30 Trouble with lock-up -- heres what happend trying to shut down ,on toshiba 4080xcdt laptop computer is frozen with the following screen below. Only restarts on this screen . yellow light power light blinks when off. FreeBSD ver 3.3 KDE X was configured ran fine, did install xbatt , but had some more requirements. thanks Fergus Hayman 604-855-6767 #shutdown -k now # this was my last command -- my new laptop Shutdown NOW! shutdown: [pid673] *** Final System shutdown message form shayman@*** System going down IMMEDIATLRY Oct 8 16:04:15 shutdown: shutdown by shayman: System shutdown time has arrived but you'll have to do it yourself # # Shutting down daemon processes:. OCt 8 16:04:42 syslog exiting on signal 15 Fatal double fault: eip = 0xc0233254 esp = )xc44aa000 ebp = 0xc44aa040 panic: bouble fault Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on console to abort # can't get to bios or nothing ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 7: 8:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mobil.surnet.ru (mobil.surnet.ru [195.54.2.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A1315010 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 07:07:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ilia@cgilh.chel.su) Received: (from uucgilh@localhost) by mobil.surnet.ru (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with UUCP id SAA20867 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:53:48 +0500 (UST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cgilh.chel.su (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id TAA03117 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:02:43 +0600 Received: from localhost (ilia@localhost) by localhost.cgu.chel.su (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA00514 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:44:38 +0600 (ESS) (envelope-from ilia@cgilh.chel.su) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.cgu.chel.su: ilia owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:44:38 +0600 (ESS) From: Ilia Chipitsine X-Sender: ilia@localhost.cgu.chel.su To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: how can I enable SOFTUPDATES on "/" ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 7: 9:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.safepages.com (smtp.safepages.com [192.41.32.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C1C15186 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 07:09:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jason@welsh.dynip.com) Received: from welsh.dynip.com (03-122.038.popsite.net [209.198.10.122]) by smtp.safepages.com (8.8.5) id IAA16258; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 08:09:47 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: smtp.safepages.com: Host 03-122.038.popsite.net [209.198.10.122] claimed to be welsh.dynip.com Received: (qmail 20561 invoked by uid 1000); 10 Oct 1999 14:09:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Oct 1999 14:09:13 -0000 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 10:09:13 -0400 (EDT) From: jason To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: cjclark@home.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hiding directories on ftp server In-Reply-To: <75825.939550236@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i must be doing something horribly wrong.. ive set the pub/leech dir to be chmod 100 any I can still see that directory from a windows98 machine running its dos ftp program... heres the ls -al from the dos box d-wx------ 2 root operator 512 Oct 8 21:33 leech I dont think I have my ftp user has root priveleges.. is this weird or am i just totally missing something? thanks for being patient with me.. ;) -- ======================================================================= | Jason Welsh jason@welsh.dynip.com | If you think there's | | | good in everybody, you | | http://welsh.dynip.com/ | haven't met everybody. | ======================================================================= On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > > On Sat, 09 Oct 1999 15:56:27 -0400, jason wrote: > > > I wanted the directory to not be visible (as well as the files in it).. > > So apply your brain to the problem and take it one step further. :-) > > You already know that removing read permission on a directory makes its > contents invisible, right? So: > > cd /path/to/ftp/directory > mkdir arb > chmod 751 arb > mkdir arb/leech > chmod 751 arb/leech > > If your ftp users are in the group of the user creating these > directories, then you should use mode 711 instead of 751. > > Ciao, > Sheldon. > > PS: You could simplify the commands above, but I wanted to make sure you > understand what's happening. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 7:12:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cx559415-b.ftwal1.fl.home.com (cx559415-b.ftwal1.fl.home.com [24.6.55.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A8014E0C for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 07:12:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@cx559415-b.ftwal1.fl.home.com) Received: from camelot (camelot.cmr.net [10.1.1.2]) by cx559415-b.ftwal1.fl.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA00307 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:15:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mark@cx559415-b.ftwal1.fl.home.com) Reply-To: From: "Mark Einreinhof" To: "Freebsd-Questions" Subject: VPN over cable modem connection Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:11:46 -0500 Message-ID: <001101bf1329$62d3d560$0201010a@cmr.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there a How-To for VPN over a cable modem from my FreeBSD3.2 box to my office NT4.0 server? ********************************************** The box said "requires Win95 or better"... So I installed it on FreeBSD;-) 'Anonymous' ********************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 7:26:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cm-24-142-61-16.cableco-op.ispchannel.com (cm-24-142-61-16.cableco-op.ispchannel.com [24.142.61.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28BB14D95 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 07:26:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwg@netbox.com) Received: from localhost (jwg@localhost) by cm-24-142-61-16.cableco-op.ispchannel.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA24418 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 07:22:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwg@netbox.com) X-Authentication-Warning: cm-24-142-61-16.cableco-op.ispchannel.com: jwg owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 07:22:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Gray X-Sender: jwg@cm-24-142-61-16.cableco-op.ispchannel.com To: Questions at FreeBSD Subject: fixed IP, losing net connection In-Reply-To: <001501bf128b$95ad9b40$26aecacf@rposey> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Help is appreciated. New PIII box, running 3.3 Release on cable modem with fixed IP. Intel Card, fxp0 128MB of Ram. Single user machine, for now. Runs wonderfully for awhile, 10 hours or so, sometimes longer. Then all of a sudden I lose connection to the net. cannot ping out. can ping localhost, can ping othermachines on the same network hub. The outside world can ping my IP [tried it from an unrelated connection]. telnetting to my fixed IP, from the outside, leads to a connection refused message. As far as I can tell when I lose connectivity nothing else is affected. kde running fine as are all aps. No error message in dmesg or /var/log/messages. Nothing unusual. netstat shows I am not connected sockstat shows httpd, sendmail, telnet running ps, of course, confirms it. If I reboot then connection come back. Hardy what I wish to do :-) Tried killing inetd and restarting the daemon. Tried kill -HUP 1 Neither gets connectivity back. Two questions. 1. How can I get connectivity back without rebooting? 2. Likly cause of this problems? Thanks jeff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 8:33:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.gfit.net (ns.gfit.net [209.41.124.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EBFF1558D for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 08:33:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Received: from paranor.embt.net (timembt.iinc.com [206.67.169.229]) by mercury.gfit.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA07115 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 10:37:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19991010113309.00ac4b80@mail.embt.com> X-Sender: tembt@mail.embt.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:33:09 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Tom Embt Subject: split(1)ing up the ISO images Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I hope I'm not rehashing an old question here, but would it be possible to split up the gzip'd ISO image of 3.3-RELEASE (and others?) into smaller pieces? I had a friend with a cable modem download it for me but for some reason the .gz has a CRC error. Say.. split -b16m 3.3-install.cd0.gz 3.3-install.cd0.gz. md5 * > CHECKSUM.MD5 I'm not asking for my own personal benefit, but rather becauase I suspect I'm not the only one this happens to. If I could run the same split command on my own .gz and compare MD5 results I could re-download only the affected portions over my pokey 24kbps connection. As far as my limited vision can see, the only downside of doing this is eating up another 650MB of drive space on ftp.freebsd.org and (optionally) it's mirrors. FWIW I decompressed the .gz, CRC error and all, and mounted it as a vnode. Going through the directory tree, I've only found one file so far that seems corrupt (some wmicons package IIRC). Had I downloaded the non-gzipped version I probably wouldn't have noticed the problem. Tom Embt tom@embt.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 8:38: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from majordomo2.umd.edu (majordomo2.umd.edu [128.8.10.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F514151F6 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 08:38:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac6.wam.umd.edu (root@rac6.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.146]) by majordomo2.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22198; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:37:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rac6.wam.umd.edu (sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac6.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA09809; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:37:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by rac6.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09805; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:37:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac6.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:37:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: TrouBle Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: libc version ??? In-Reply-To: <37FF63BE.7E39ED4C@hackfurby.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It doesn't work the same as linux. It is using libc.so.3 if you look in /usr/lib. However this has nothing to do with the libc5 and glibc stuff in linux. ================================================================= | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around. | | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: AgRSkaterq | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| ================================================================= On Sat, 9 Oct 1999, TrouBle wrote: > Okay can someone tell me what version of libc FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE uses > ????? > > -- > Press every key to continue. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 8:44:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5621D14D45 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 08:44:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA28129; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:46:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cjc) From: "Crist J. Clark" Message-Id: <199910101546.LAA28129@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Subject: Re: hiding directories on ftp server In-Reply-To: from jason at "Oct 10, 1999 10:09:13 am" To: jason@welsh.dynip.com (jason) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:46:59 -0400 (EDT) Cc: sheldonh@uunet.co.za (Sheldon Hearn), cjclark@home.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: cjclark@home.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG jason wrote, > On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > On Sat, 09 Oct 1999 15:56:27 -0400, jason wrote: > > > > > I wanted the directory to not be visible (as well as the files in it).. > > > > So apply your brain to the problem and take it one step further. :-) > > > > You already know that removing read permission on a directory makes its > > contents invisible, right? So: > > > > cd /path/to/ftp/directory > > mkdir arb > > chmod 751 arb > > mkdir arb/leech > > chmod 751 arb/leech > > > > If your ftp users are in the group of the user creating these > > directories, then you should use mode 711 instead of 751. > > > > Ciao, > > Sheldon. > > > > PS: You could simplify the commands above, but I wanted to make sure you > > understand what's happening. > > > > i must be doing something horribly wrong.. > ive set the pub/leech dir to be chmod 100 > any I can still see that directory from a windows98 machine running its > dos ftp program... heres the ls -al from the dos box > d-wx------ 2 root operator 512 Oct 8 21:33 leech > I dont think I have my ftp user has root priveleges.. > is this weird or am i just totally missing something? > > thanks for being patient with me.. ;) Sheldon's suggestion was to put an unreadable (one that cannot be 'ls'ed), but executable (files in it can be accessed) directory in between the 'pub' directory and the 'leech' directory. In your reply, you indicate that you are still putting 'leech' in the readable 'pub' directory. Doing something along the lines of what Sheldon suggested, I ftp'ed into my machine to get a file 'junk' that is hiding up in 'leech,' ftp> ls 200 PORT command successful. 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls'. total 1 drwx--x--x 3 cjc ftp 512 Oct 10 11:33 arb 226 Transfer complete. ftp> ls arb 200 PORT command successful. 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls'. ls: arb: Permission denied 226 Transfer complete. ftp> cd arb 250 CWD command successful. ftp> ls 200 PORT command successful. 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls'. ls: .: Permission denied 226 Transfer complete. ftp> cd arb 250 CWD command successful. ftp> ls 200 PORT command successful. 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls'. ls: .: Permission denied 226 Transfer complete. ftp> pwd 257 "/usr/home/ftp/pub/arb" is current directory. ftp> cd leech 250 CWD command successful. ftp> ls 200 PORT command successful. 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls'. ls: .: Permission denied 226 Transfer complete. ftp> pwd 257 "/usr/home/ftp/pub/arb/leech" is current directory. ftp> get junk local: junk remote: junk 200 PORT command successful. 150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for 'junk' (5 bytes). 100% |**************************************************| 5 00:00 ETA 226 Transfer complete. 5 bytes received in 0.00 seconds (6.44 KB/s) Does that not work like you would want? I cannot ls the contents of arb or leech, but can grab files from them (or chdir in them) if I know the filename. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 8:46:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from malkav.snowmoon.com (machine-126-237.cdcsd.k12.ny.us [208.20.126.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F5EC1559C for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 08:46:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jaime@malkav.snowmoon.com) Received: (qmail 49633 invoked by uid 1001); 10 Oct 1999 15:46:17 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Oct 1999 15:46:17 -0000 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:46:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Jaime Kikpole To: Jaye Mathisen Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Booting from RAID5 array? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 9 Oct 1999, Jaye Mathisen wrote: > Kaching. The EBDA. Extended BIOS Data Area. > > Set it up so you get the no boot sector message, then use your DOS disk. > > Betcha it works fine then. I think that I tried this before and was still given a "No boot sector found" error. I'll try it again when I go back to work on Tuesday, though. If it still gives that error, do you think that I should rebuild the array or anything like that? Thanks, Jaime To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 8:55:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from malkav.snowmoon.com (machine-126-237.cdcsd.k12.ny.us [208.20.126.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0FF8D15598 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 08:52:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jaime@malkav.snowmoon.com) Received: (qmail 49647 invoked by uid 1001); 10 Oct 1999 15:52:58 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Oct 1999 15:52:58 -0000 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:52:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Jaime Kikpole To: Marc Tardif Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache+php+mod_ssl from ports on boot In-Reply-To: <380038E3.6F851524@cam.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, Marc Tardif wrote: > I'm trying to install apache+php+mod_ssl from the ports, which is all > from the FreeBSD-CURRENT distribution which I have installed by passive > ftp today. Everything went fine, though the mod_ssl version included > seems a bit outdated. The problem is that apache.sh won't start on boot > nor from the command line. Make sure that: 1) apache.sh is executable. You can test this by su-in to root and trying to run it from the command line. 2) apache.sh is in the /usr/local/etc/rc.d directory 3) the /usr/local/etc/rc.d directory is in the list of startup directories. The easiest way to check this (IMHO) is through /stand/sysinstall's Customize menus. > 2. Oddly, it seems there are no httpd.conf-dist files, except in > /usr/ports/www/apache13-php3/work/apache... shouldn't those files be > moved during 'make install' to /usr/local/share/apache or > /usr/local/apache? The later directory doesn't seem to exist, though it > is mentioned in the apache manpage. You need to have httpd.conf, not httpd.conf-dist. The *-dist files are examples for you to start with and usually work as is, but should be customized. Check the file /var/db/pkg/apache*/+CONTENTS and see where it put those files. Then copy the *.conf-dist files to non *.conf-dist names. In fact, I think that the more recent versions of the apache ports use the file /usr/local/etc/apache/apache.conf to take the place of all three or four of the old *.conf files. Good luck, Jaime To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 9: 5:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from malkav.snowmoon.com (machine-126-237.cdcsd.k12.ny.us [208.20.126.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F1C5915267 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:04:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jaime@malkav.snowmoon.com) Received: (qmail 49670 invoked by uid 1001); 10 Oct 1999 16:04:58 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Oct 1999 16:04:58 -0000 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:04:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Jaime Kikpole To: Jeff Gray Cc: Questions at FreeBSD Subject: Re: fixed IP, losing net connection In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, Jeff Gray wrote: > If I reboot then connection come back. Hardy what I wish to do :-) > > Tried killing inetd and restarting the daemon. > Tried kill -HUP 1 > Neither gets connectivity back. Its not a program going crazy, then. It sounded more like a cable-modem-company inflicted problem anyway. I'm on Road Runner at home and they screw with my IP all the time. Similar symptoms. One thing that's different between us, though, is that they assign me a dynamic IP via DHCP not a static one. Is DHCP used in your system anywhere? > Two questions. > > 1. How can I get connectivity back without rebooting? > > 2. Likly cause of this problems? Do you still have a link light on your ethernet card when this problem occurs? If not, its probably not a FreeBSD problem. You also might want to try using ipfw to log traffic coming into your ethernet card in order to see if anything funny is going on. To do that, compile the pseudo device bpf and the options that have "IPFIREWALL" or "IPFILTER" in them into your kernel. Then set up some ipfw rules to log the data on your ethernet card. By doing this I've found a number of attempts by script kiddies to use Window vulnerabilities against my system. :) Jaime To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 9:17:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B20D9158BE for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:16:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA28545; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:19:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cjc) From: "Crist J. Clark" Message-Id: <199910101619.MAA28545@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Subject: Re: Problem including Adaptec 1510 driver under 3.2-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <38008C35.3B2FAC62@attglobal.net> from Peter Gasparro at "Oct 10, 1999 01:53:09 pm" To: gasparr@attglobal.net Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:19:46 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: cjclark@home.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter Gasparro wrote, > Hi, > > I get an error "ioconf.o(.data+0xd0): undefined reference to > `aicdriver'" when doing a "make". Please find attached a screen print > (krnlprob.txt) of the end of the "make" and the kernel config file NOW > as evidence of this. > > Any help would be much appreciated. > > Thanks in advance [snip] First, I found something odd (hopefully not ominous), % cd /sys/i386/conf % grep aic0 LINT % That is, the controller is not listed in LINT. Second, I did find the file where 'aicdriver' is defined, /sys/i386/isa/aic6360.c. Third, although this probably has nothing to do with your problem (unless there were some other 2.2.x options I did not catch messing you up), the use of sd0 for SCSI HDD was changed in 2.2.x to 3.x. They should be caled da0. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 9:30:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from Hydro.CAM.ORG (Hydro.CAM.ORG [198.168.100.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8C215685 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:26:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from intmktg@CAM.ORG) Received: from cam.org (Dialup-568.HIP.CAM.ORG [199.84.45.63]) by Hydro.CAM.ORG (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA17077; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:25:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3800BBAF.EFF0B2BF@cam.org> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:15:44 -0400 From: Marc Tardif X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jaime Kikpole Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache+php+mod_ssl from ports on boot References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jaime Kikpole wrote: > Make sure that: > 1) apache.sh is executable. You can test this by su-in to root and trying > to run it from the command line. > > 2) apache.sh is in the /usr/local/etc/rc.d directory > > 3) the /usr/local/etc/rc.d directory is in the list of startup > directories. The easiest way to check this (IMHO) is through > /stand/sysinstall's Customize menus. All three counts were right to start with. I tried running apache.sh from the command line though, and it stalls exactly like when booting. > You need to have httpd.conf, not httpd.conf-dist. The *-dist > files are examples for you to start with and usually work as is, but > should be customized. Check the file /var/db/pkg/apache*/+CONTENTS and > see where it put those files. Then copy the *.conf-dist files to non > *.conf-dist names. In fact, I think that the more recent versions of the > apache ports use the file /usr/local/etc/apache/apache.conf to take the > place of all three or four of the old *.conf files. You were right, the names have changed with the version I have installed. The file name now end with *.default now, and they were already renamed without that extension. So, I do have /usr/local/etc/apache/apache.conf which seems to be configured fine. Thanks for the help, now I'm really not sure what's going on. This is a fresh install of FreeBSD-CURRENT, and I only have postgresql installed, and apache+php+mod_ssl, both from the ports collection (note from my last email, I mentioned "my sql server" which is pgsql, not mysql). ... will keep you posted if I get anywhere also. Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 9:32:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.safepages.com (smtp.safepages.com [192.41.32.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0858B15668 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:31:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jason@welsh.dynip.com) Received: from welsh.dynip.com (03-122.038.popsite.net [209.198.10.122]) by smtp.safepages.com (8.8.5) id KAA08482; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 10:31:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: smtp.safepages.com: Host 03-122.038.popsite.net [209.198.10.122] claimed to be welsh.dynip.com Received: (qmail 20839 invoked by uid 1000); 10 Oct 1999 16:30:26 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Oct 1999 16:30:26 -0000 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:30:26 -0400 (EDT) From: jason To: cjclark@home.com Cc: Sheldon Hearn , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hiding directories on ftp server In-Reply-To: <199910101546.LAA28129@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ok, i think is see whats going on.. I finally got it to work.. by using what he suggested... having /pub/arb/leech and when I applied the same thing to /pub/leech I ended up not being able to see what was in pub.. so I guess its an all or nothing.. either see all directories and files in a given directory or see no files and directories in a given directory.. you cant mix and match hidden files and directories in a given directory... if that makes any sense? ;) -- ======================================================================= | Jason Welsh jason@welsh.dynip.com | If you think there's | | | good in everybody, you | | http://welsh.dynip.com/ | haven't met everybody. | ======================================================================= On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, Crist J. Clark wrote: > jason wrote, > > On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > > On Sat, 09 Oct 1999 15:56:27 -0400, jason wrote: > > > > > > > I wanted the directory to not be visible (as well as the files in it).. > > > > > > So apply your brain to the problem and take it one step further. :-) > > > > > > You already know that removing read permission on a directory makes its > > > contents invisible, right? So: > > > > > > cd /path/to/ftp/directory > > > mkdir arb > > > chmod 751 arb > > > mkdir arb/leech > > > chmod 751 arb/leech > > > > > > If your ftp users are in the group of the user creating these > > > directories, then you should use mode 711 instead of 751. > > > > > > Ciao, > > > Sheldon. > > > > > > PS: You could simplify the commands above, but I wanted to make sure you > > > understand what's happening. > > > > > > > i must be doing something horribly wrong.. > > ive set the pub/leech dir to be chmod 100 > > any I can still see that directory from a windows98 machine running its > > dos ftp program... heres the ls -al from the dos box > > d-wx------ 2 root operator 512 Oct 8 21:33 leech > > I dont think I have my ftp user has root priveleges.. > > is this weird or am i just totally missing something? > > > > thanks for being patient with me.. ;) > > Sheldon's suggestion was to put an unreadable (one that cannot be > 'ls'ed), but executable (files in it can be accessed) directory in > between the 'pub' directory and the 'leech' directory. In your reply, > you indicate that you are still putting 'leech' in the readable 'pub' > directory. > > Doing something along the lines of what Sheldon suggested, I ftp'ed > into my machine to get a file 'junk' that is hiding up in 'leech,' > > ftp> ls > 200 PORT command successful. > 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls'. > total 1 > drwx--x--x 3 cjc ftp 512 Oct 10 11:33 arb > 226 Transfer complete. > ftp> ls arb > 200 PORT command successful. > 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls'. > ls: arb: Permission denied > 226 Transfer complete. > ftp> cd arb > 250 CWD command successful. > ftp> ls > 200 PORT command successful. > 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls'. > ls: .: Permission denied > 226 Transfer complete. > ftp> cd arb > 250 CWD command successful. > ftp> ls > 200 PORT command successful. > 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls'. > ls: .: Permission denied > 226 Transfer complete. > ftp> pwd > 257 "/usr/home/ftp/pub/arb" is current directory. > ftp> cd leech > 250 CWD command successful. > ftp> ls > 200 PORT command successful. > 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls'. > ls: .: Permission denied > 226 Transfer complete. > ftp> pwd > 257 "/usr/home/ftp/pub/arb/leech" is current directory. > ftp> get junk > local: junk remote: junk > 200 PORT command successful. > 150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for 'junk' (5 bytes). > 100% |**************************************************| 5 00:00 ETA > 226 Transfer complete. > 5 bytes received in 0.00 seconds (6.44 KB/s) > > Does that not work like you would want? I cannot ls the contents of > arb or leech, but can grab files from them (or chdir in them) if I > know the filename. > -- > Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 9:42:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2279414A13 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:42:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA28620; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:45:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cjc) From: "Crist J. Clark" Message-Id: <199910101645.MAA28620@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Subject: Re: fixed IP, losing net connection In-Reply-To: from Jeff Gray at "Oct 10, 1999 07:22:58 am" To: jwg@netbox.com (Jeff Gray) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:45:40 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG (Questions at FreeBSD) Reply-To: cjclark@home.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jeff Gray wrote, > Help is appreciated. > > New PIII box, running 3.3 Release on cable modem with fixed IP. Intel > Card, fxp0 128MB of Ram. Single user machine, for now. > > Runs wonderfully for awhile, 10 hours or so, sometimes longer. Then all of > a sudden I lose connection to the net. cannot ping out. can ping > localhost, can ping othermachines on the same network hub. The outside > world can ping my IP [tried it from an unrelated connection]. telnetting > to my fixed IP, from the outside, leads to a connection refused message. > > As far as I can tell when I lose connectivity nothing else is affected. > kde running fine as are all aps. > > No error message in dmesg or /var/log/messages. Nothing unusual. > netstat shows I am not connected > sockstat shows httpd, sendmail, telnet running > ps, of course, confirms it. > > If I reboot then connection come back. Hardy what I wish to do :-) > > Tried killing inetd and restarting the daemon. > Tried kill -HUP 1 > Neither gets connectivity back. > > Two questions. > > 1. How can I get connectivity back without rebooting? > > 2. Likly cause of this problems? What do you mean by, "netstat shows I am not connected?" You also indicate that you have your own hub. What is the topology of your local net behind the modem? -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 9:51:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from netbox.com (home.netbox.com [206.24.105.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BFF414CCF for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:51:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwgray@netbox.com) Received: from localhost (jwgray@localhost) by netbox.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA26921; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:51:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwgray@netbox.com) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:51:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Gray To: Jaime Kikpole Cc: Jeff Gray , Questions at FreeBSD Subject: Re: fixed IP, losing net connection In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jaime, Thanks. The green link light is on, next to the RJ45 plug. Good thought. Can telnet to localhost The cable modem runs into a hub. I have two FreeBSD boxes connected to the hub. One running 2.2.6 is fine and stable. The new one running 3.3 is fine except it has lost the ability to be connected to from outside the lan. You can ping it from your machine but you could not telnet in if you had an account. You could ping and telnet into the FreeBSD box running 2.2.6 Fixed IPs, not DHCP on these boxes. Also have Mac connected to the Lan, it is connected via dhcp and working fine. Just the new box, with 3.3 is a problem. Can telnet to my IP from the 3.3 box but cannot telnet to any other box, including the box on the lan. can ping the other machines on the lan. Appreciate any ideas or advice. Thanks again, Jeff On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, Jaime Kikpole wrote: > Real-To: Jaime Kikpole > Real-Cc: Questions at FreeBSD > > On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, Jeff Gray wrote: > > If I reboot then connection come back. Hardy what I wish to do :-) > > > > Tried killing inetd and restarting the daemon. > > Tried kill -HUP 1 > > Neither gets connectivity back. > > Its not a program going crazy, then. It sounded more like a > cable-modem-company inflicted problem anyway. I'm on Road Runner at home > and they screw with my IP all the time. Similar symptoms. One thing > that's different between us, though, is that they assign me a dynamic IP > via DHCP not a static one. Is DHCP used in your system anywhere? > > > > Two questions. > > > > 1. How can I get connectivity back without rebooting? > > > > 2. Likly cause of this problems? > > Do you still have a link light on your ethernet card when this > problem occurs? If not, its probably not a FreeBSD problem. You also > might want to try using ipfw to log traffic coming into your ethernet card > in order to see if anything funny is going on. To do that, compile the > pseudo device bpf and the options that have "IPFIREWALL" or "IPFILTER" in > them into your kernel. Then set up some ipfw rules to log the data on > your ethernet card. By doing this I've found a number of attempts by > script kiddies to use Window vulnerabilities against my system. :) > > Jaime > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 9:56: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E15B14DDA for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:55:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA28666; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:58:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cjc) From: "Crist J. Clark" Message-Id: <199910101658.MAA28666@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Subject: Re: hiding directories on ftp server In-Reply-To: from jason at "Oct 10, 1999 12:30:26 pm" To: jason@welsh.dynip.com (jason) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:58:47 -0400 (EDT) Cc: cjclark@home.com, sheldonh@uunet.co.za (Sheldon Hearn), freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: cjclark@home.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG jason wrote, > ok, i think is see whats going on.. > I finally got it to work.. by using what he suggested... > having > /pub/arb/leech > and when I applied the same thing to /pub/leech > I ended up not being able to see what was in pub.. > so I guess its an all or nothing.. > either see all directories and files in a given directory or see no files > and directories in a given directory.. > you cant mix and match hidden files and directories in a given > directory... > if that makes any sense? ;) From my second reply to you, "There is no way to make a single file disappear from the listing of a directory using the filesystem permissions." Is there an echo in here? -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 9:59:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from netbox.com (home.netbox.com [206.24.105.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944C715216 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:59:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwgray@netbox.com) Received: from localhost (jwgray@localhost) by netbox.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA27354; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:59:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwgray@netbox.com) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:59:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Gray To: cjclark@home.com Cc: Jeff Gray , Questions at FreeBSD Subject: Re: fixed IP, losing net connection In-Reply-To: <199910101645.MAA28620@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks. If I run netstat it shows the local connection only. That is, the telnets to my IP on that machine. Then it hangs until I hit control C, never finds httpd or sendmail, both running according to ps. Cable modem connected to a hub. Hub has three machines on it. FreeBSD 3.3 new machine, the one with the problem. FreeBSD 2.2.6 working perfectly as best as I can tell, also fixed IP A Mac, with a DHCP connection working normally Thanks for the help Jeff > > What do you mean by, "netstat shows I am not connected?" You also > indicate that you have your own hub. What is the topology of your > local net behind the modem? > -- > Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 10:17:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from plan9.greycat.com (plan9.greycat.com [207.173.133.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5081714F77 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 10:17:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dann@greycat.com) Received: from greycat.com (bigphred.greycat.com [207.173.133.2]) by plan9.greycat.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10619; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 10:17:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3800CA4F.2B2B8DC8@greycat.com> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 10:18:07 -0700 From: Dann Lunsford Organization: You're kidding, right? X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PCI sound devices References: <19991009194925.A353@mach.greycat.com> <19991010132558.J41010@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > > On [19991010 08:00], Dann Lunsford (dann@greycat.com) wrote: > >I've got a Toshiba laptop with builtin PCI sound device. Said device is > >a ESS ES1978 based thing, claiming to be SBPRO compatible. This comming > >from Toshiba, it is almost certainly a lie, but for now let's pretend we > >believe it. Here;s what pciconf -l has to say about it: > > > >none0@pci0:12:0: class=0x040100 card=0x00011179 chip=0x1978125d rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 > > > >Anybody got a clue as to how I can get this working under FreeBSD? I've been > >reading code all day, and I *think* I can see where to start, but if someone > >else has working code, I would ****REALLY**** appreciate seeing it! > > The ess1978 is not yet supported for all I know. *sigh* Figured as much. I was hoping that, since it claims to be SBPRO compatible, the sb drivers might work. pcm doesn't work since (AFAIK) it uses pnp, which is strictly an ISA phenomenon. > > You could, if you dare it and think you could manage, move to CURRENT > and help Cameron Grant out by testing his newpcm driver. You could also > send his any docs you got, programming docs of course, so that he can > try his hand at it. > Programming docs? From TOSHIBA???? Surely you jest, sir. Getting anything from those people is far worse than pulling teeth. The standard refrain is Me: Can't get sound working ... Them: Click on My Computer, then.... Me: (Interupting the interuption) under FreeBSD and need programming data for the sound device. Them: FreeBSD? Is that a new Microsoft app? and it goes steadily downhill from there. Can't go to CURRENT on this box, unfortunately, either. I use it for a lot of work-related stuff, and I need it to be fairly stable. Will look at the newpcm code, though; thanks for the pointer. Will also write to Cameron and see if there's anything I *can* do to help. Thanks! Dann Lunsford To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 10:32:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from laker.net (jet.laker.net [205.245.74.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 013FC15492 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 10:32:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sfriedri@laker.net) Received: from nt (host-209-214-170-181.sdf.bellsouth.net [209.214.170.181]) by laker.net (8.9.0/8.9.0-LAKERNET-We-do-not-relay) with SMTP id NAA28744 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:32:33 -0400 Message-Id: <199910101732.NAA28744@laker.net> From: "Steve Friedrich" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:27:53 -0400 Reply-To: "Steve Friedrich" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (4.0.1381;3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How do you compile a fortune database Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Where's the info on how to create your own fortune databases? I gathered by looking at /usr/share/games/fortune/fortune that the source file contains entries delineated by lines containing only a %. Steve Friedrich Viva la FreeBSD!! Unix systems measure "uptime" in years, Winblows measures it in minutes. Steve Friedrich 245 Heritage Hill Trail Louisville, KY 40223-5546 502-253-5834 Voting isn't enough. Become an active citizen. Call, fax, or email your reps! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 11: 9: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from merlins.force9.net (merlins.force9.net [195.166.128.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE1F415258 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:08:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from banta@ghulam.force9.co.uk) Received: (qmail 28221 invoked from network); 10 Oct 1999 18:08:18 -0000 Received: from mayfly.plus.net.uk (HELO mayfly.force9.net) (195.166.128.28) by merlins.force9.net with SMTP; 10 Oct 1999 18:08:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 29192 invoked from network); 10 Oct 1999 18:08:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO signup) (212.56.95.239) by mayfly.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 10 Oct 1999 18:08:18 -0000 From: "Ghulam Dastgir" To: Subject: Sendmail Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:07:28 -0700 Message-ID: <01bf138d$5ed691a0$LocalHost@signup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, sendmail presently does not allow me to sent out email. The problem appears to be the sender's email is: user@hostname.ISP.co.uk, when it should be user@ISP.co.uk. I realise that this problem is a result of my using a dialup PPP link. Now all I have to do is recreate my /etc/sendmail.cf as per the FAQ instructions (sections 8.18 and 8.19). According to these instructions once I create my file foo.mc in the duirectory: /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/cf/cf, I am then supposed to do a "make foo.mc". So m4 converts foo.mc to a foo.cf (so as to later replace /etc/sendmail.cf). Now here lies the problem. When I do make foo.mc, I get the error: Makefile:32 ***missing separator.Stop Looking at Makefile:32 it has the line: ".if defined(SENDMAIL_CF)" Any ideas? Thanks, Ghulam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 11:16:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from indyweb.cgocable.ca (indyweb.cgocable.ca [205.151.69.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A93D15132 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:16:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from foub@globetrotter.net) Received: from windows.cgocable.ca (141-154.ri.cgocable.ca [24.226.141.154]) by indyweb.cgocable.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA8751974 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 14:16:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000501bf134b$9e070b80$0201a8c0@cgocable.ca> From: "Guillaume Paquet" To: Subject: dhcp - bootp Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 14:16:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Do I need to compile my kernel with bootp suuport so that dhcp can work? I have FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE and I want to configure it for my cable modem. Guillaume Paquet foub@globetrotter.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 11:25:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dt011n66.san.rr.com (dt011n66.san.rr.com [204.210.13.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16FF614DB9 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:24:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt011n66.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05119; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:24:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <3800D9E2.CA9A4099@gorean.org> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:24:34 -0700 From: Doug Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT-0927 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: souhail tawil Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How To References: <19991010104534.18014.rocketmail@web705.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG souhail tawil wrote: > > Hi > Would you please instruct me how to download Unix OS I > am a new user,I heard too mush about this operating > system and I would like to try it. There is extensive information about this on our web site. You should read as much of it as you can, especially the handbook. Good luck, Doug -- "Stop it, I'm gettin' misty." - Mel Gibson as Porter, "Payback" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 11:28:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.gfit.net (ns.gfit.net [209.41.124.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 514C414DB9 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:28:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Received: from paranor.embt.net (timembt.iinc.com [206.67.169.229]) by mercury.gfit.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA13623 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:32:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19991010142810.00ac3e24@mail.embt.com> X-Sender: tembt@mail.embt.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 14:28:10 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Tom Embt Subject: split(1)ing up the ISO images Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I hope I'm not rehashing an old question here, but would it be possible to split up the gzip'd ISO image of 3.3-RELEASE (and others?) into smaller pieces? I had a friend with a cable modem download it for me but for some reason the .gz has a CRC error. Say.. split -b16m 3.3-install.cd0.gz 3.3-install.cd0.gz. md5 * > CHECKSUM.MD5 I'm not asking for my own personal benefit, but rather becauase I suspect I'm not the only one this happens to. If I could run the same split command on my own .gz and compare MD5 results I could re-download only the affected portions over my pokey 24kbps connection. As far as my limited vision can see, the only downside of doing this is eating up another 650MB of drive space on ftp.freebsd.org and (optionally) it's mirrors. FWIW I decompressed the .gz, CRC error and all, and mounted it as a vnode. Going through the directory tree, I've only found one file so far that seems corrupt (some wmicons package IIRC). Had I downloaded the non-gzipped version I probably wouldn't have noticed the problem. Tom Embt tom@embt.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 11:31:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dt011n66.san.rr.com (dt011n66.san.rr.com [204.210.13.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123B9159E9 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:30:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt011n66.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05155; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <3800DB2A.4024D251@gorean.org> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:30:02 -0700 From: Doug Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT-0927 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wjw@iae.nl Cc: questions@freeBsd.org Subject: Re: Strange loggings during make buildworld References: <199910101318.PAA32220@hobby.digiware.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm trying to do a 'make -j 8 buildworld' on a 3.3-release box, and I'm > getting: > > Oct 10 15:13:55 hobby /kernel: pid 32115 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > Oct 10 15:13:55 hobby /kernel: spec_getpages: preposterous offset 0xffffffd881cdd000 > Oct 10 15:13:55 hobby /kernel: vm_fault: pager read error, pid 32102 (as) > Oct 10 15:13:55 hobby /kernel: pid 32102 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > Oct 10 15:13:56 hobby /kernel: spec_getpages: preposterous offset 0xffffffd881cdd000 > Oct 10 15:13:56 hobby /kernel: vm_fault: pager read error, pid 32134 (as) > Oct 10 15:13:56 hobby /kernel: pid 32134 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > > Anybody an idea where this could be caused. Looks like bad ram to me. Good luck, Doug -- "Stop it, I'm gettin' misty." - Mel Gibson as Porter, "Payback" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 11:51:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C0915579 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:51:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from ospf-mdt.sentex.net (ospf-mdt.sentex.net [205.211.164.81]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA13342 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 14:51:27 -0400 (EDT) From: mike@sentex.net (Mike Tancsa) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: security Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:51:26 GMT Message-ID: <3800ddd5.315266549@mail.sentex.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 9 Oct 1999 12:32:53 -0400, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote: >Hi >I am looking to learn more about Unix/BSD >security as far as setting up syslog,umask >values, file ownership, ftp, creating profiles, >NFS, Firewall and anything else to secure severs. The Firewall book at www.ora.com is one place to start, another is www.securityfocus.com. This will give you a rough place to start in terms of the concepts you will need to understand. Once you have identified the various concepts, search through the mailinglist archives at www.dejanews.com (power search through mailing.freebsd.*,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.* ) on each of those concepts for discussions of them in the past as they relate to FreeBSD. e.g. packetfiltering -> ipfw, look for discussions around ipfw through the mailing lists. One topic that does not seem to be emphasized enough is the human aspect. You can have the best technical security systems in place, but if there is no one paying attention to what is happening, you are not too far ahead. Something simple like, logging. Yeah, the popper daemon actually log password errors on pop3 sessions, but if no one examines the logs, what good is it ? ---Mike Mike Tancsa (mdtancsa@sentex.net) Sentex Communications Corp, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada "Given enough time, 100 monkeys on 100 routers could setup a national IP network." (KDW2) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 11:55:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD4F1560F for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:55:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from ospf-mdt.sentex.net (ospf-mdt.sentex.net [205.211.164.81]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA13858; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 14:55:19 -0400 (EDT) From: mike@sentex.net (Mike Tancsa) To: a.genkin@utoronto.ca (Arcady Genkin) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Specifying default route Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:55:18 GMT Message-ID: <3800e07d.315946617@mail.sentex.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 10 Oct 1999 01:36:12 -0400, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote: >Hi all: > >What's the correct way of specifying default route, if a machine has 2 >nics? I imagine there should be something like > >default_route="ed1" > >to be inserted into /etc/rc.conf, but I couldn't find alike option in >rc.conf's man page. The option is e.g. ### Network routing options: ### defaultrouter="NO" # Set to default gateway (or NO). or ### Network routing options: ### defaultrouter="192.168.1.1" # Set to default gateway (or NO). That assumed that one of your interfaces is on the same subnet as 192.168.1.1 is. e.g if you had 2 interfaces, ed0 being 192.168.1.2 ed1 being 10.10.10.1 and you wanted everyting to go out ed0, defaultrouter="192.168.1.1" # Set to default gateway (or NO). is the entry you want. ---Mike Mike Tancsa (mdtancsa@sentex.net) Sentex Communications Corp, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada "Given enough time, 100 monkeys on 100 routers could setup a national IP network." (KDW2) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 12:13:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from scotty.masternet.it (scotty.masternet.it [194.184.65.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A1D15070 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:13:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gmarco@scotty.masternet.it) Received: from suzy (modem24.masternet.it [194.184.65.34]) by scotty.masternet.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA85761; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 21:13:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gmarco@scotty.masternet.it) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991010210106.00a70100@194.184.65.4> X-Sender: gmarco@scotty.masternet.it X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 21:03:21 +0200 To: "Steve Friedrich" , "FreeBSD Questions" From: Gianmarco Giovannelli Subject: Re: How do you compile a fortune database In-Reply-To: <199910101732.NAA28744@laker.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10/10/99, Steve Friedrich wrote: >Where's the info on how to create your own fortune databases? > >I gathered by looking at /usr/share/games/fortune/fortune that the >source file contains entries delineated by lines containing only a %. If you check my ports misc/fortuneit you can see how to manage the fortunes databases. If you are in hurry /usr/games/strfile is your friend :-) Best Regards, Gianmarco Giovannelli , "Unix expert since yesterday" http://www.giovannelli.it/~gmarco http://www2.masternet.it To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 12:16:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from scotty.masternet.it (scotty.masternet.it [194.184.65.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D6614D1A for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:16:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gmarco@scotty.masternet.it) Received: from suzy (modem24.masternet.it [194.184.65.34]) by scotty.masternet.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA85774; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 21:15:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gmarco@scotty.masternet.it) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991010210354.00a74160@194.184.65.4> X-Sender: gmarco@scotty.masternet.it X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 21:05:40 +0200 To: Ilia Chipitsine , questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Gianmarco Giovannelli Subject: Re: how can I enable SOFTUPDATES on "/" ? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10/10/99, Ilia Chipitsine wrote: Try to: tunefs -n enable /dev/rwd0s1a i.e if your root is in the first IDE drive) Then I always do a : reboot -n before doing any other thing on the drive... Best Regards, Gianmarco Giovannelli , "Unix expert since yesterday" http://www.giovannelli.it/~gmarco http://www2.masternet.it To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 12:19:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.netville.com.br (ns2.netville.com.br [200.215.101.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80AF15685 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:18:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sayao@netville.com.br) Received: from Sayao (r109p35.ppp.netville.com.br [200.193.91.55]) by mail.netville.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA02418 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 17:13:53 -0200 Message-ID: <001501bf1293$2b2b1740$5125fea9@Sayao> From: "Thiago Sayao" To: Subject: ppp Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 17:16:27 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i'm lost about using internet with freebsd, i've read the faq and the manpages, but one say one thing and the other say other... is there any page that explain this ? or a program like wvdial for freebsd ? thanks, Thiago Sayao To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 12:26:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from seagull.rtd.com (seagull.rtd.com [198.102.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35F8151BA for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:26:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tony@rtd.com) Received: (from tony@localhost) by seagull.rtd.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id MAA26495 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:26:37 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:26:37 -0700 (MST) From: Tony Jones Message-Id: <199910101926.MAA26495@seagull.rtd.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: 3.X upgrade (diskspace/recovery floppy?) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Please CC: me on any replies - thanks!] 1) Does anyone have the recommended filesystem sizes for 3.x? I couldn't find anything on the web site. Had a fairly difficult upgrade from 2.2-stable to 3.3 (source build). Lots of make failures (disk space problems in /usr/obj, /usr and /) Had to do a fair amount of hacking to get the process finished. Hopefully, /usr and /usr/obj problems will go away when I purge the last remains of aout support. My / looks to need resizing, had to purge unneeded executables and remove ALL (yes rebooting was scary) old kernels in order to be able to install the 3.x kernel. 2) Also, is there a method of making recovery floppies for 3.x ? I recall a two disk solution (but this was a couple of years ago). I'm going to have to dump to scsi tape, boot from a recovery floppy, remake / and restore. Plus I should have period for disaster recovery. Appreciate any advice. Thanks Tony P.S The reason why I'm unclear on some of the above is that I have never done an install. Bought the system preinstalled from Rod Grimes ~5 years ago and have been upgrading from source ever since. Disk layout on sd0 has never changed. # df Filesystem 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/sd0s1a 31742 29066 138 100% / /dev/sd0s1e 63518 5656 52782 10% /var /dev/sd0s1f 190622 162116 13258 92% /usr /dev/sd0s1h 601406 360882 192412 65% /a /dev/sd1s1h 1014494 408458 524878 44% /b /dev/sd2h 2007362 795384 1051390 43% /c /dev/sd3h 1998610 923578 915144 50% /d mfs:50 127006 2 116844 0% /tmp # /sbin/disklabel sd0 # /dev/rsd0c: type: SCSI disk: DEC_DSP3053LS label: X442 flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 61 tracks/cylinder: 17 sectors/cylinder: 1037 cylinders: 1008 sectors/unit: 1046272 rpm: 5400 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 32768 0 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 31*) b: 131072 32768 swap # (Cyl. 31*- 157*) c: 1046272 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 1008*) e: 65536 163840 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 157*- 221*) f: 196608 229376 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 221*- 410*) h: 620288 425984 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 410*- 1008*) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 13: 4:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from posgate.acis.com.au (posgate.acis.com.au [203.14.230.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEAFA151BA for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:04:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andymac@bullseye.apana.org.au) Received: from bullseye.apana.org.au (uucp@localhost) by posgate.acis.com.au (8.9.2/8.9.2/Debian/GNU) with UUCP id GAA09657; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 06:01:46 +1000 (EST) Received: from bullseye.apana.org.au (central.apana.org.au [203.9.107.245]) by bullseye.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA24669; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:28:32 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andymac@bullseye.apana.org.au) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:24:48 +1000 (EST) From: Andrew MacIntyre To: Tim Pushor Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Weird pppd/proxyarp/ipnat behaviour In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-X-Sender: andymac@bullseye.apana.org.au MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 9 Oct 1999, Tim Pushor wrote: > I am running an OpenBSD 2.5/i386 system that is acting as a NAT translator > to the world via a cable modem. I have two ethernet interfaces. {...} > I'm not sure where to begin troubleshooting this problem. Any ideas? You're more likely to make progress directing this to am OpenBSD mailing list rather than a FreeBSD list. -- Andrew I MacIntyre "These thoughts are mine alone..." E-mail: andrew.macintyre@aba.gov.au (work) | Snail: PO Box 370 andymac@bullseye.apana.org.au (play) | Belconnen ACT 2616 Fido: Andrew MacIntyre, 3:620/243.18 | Australia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 13:37: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from monkeys.com (i180.value.net [206.14.136.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675F315639 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:36:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rfg@monkeys.com) Received: from monkeys.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by monkeys.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15891 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:38:00 -0700 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: cpu type ? From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:38:00 -0700 Message-ID: <15889.939587880@monkeys.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When configuring a kernel for an AMD K6/2 300, what is the most proper CPU type to configure within the kernel configuration file? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 13:41:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from proxyb1-atm.san.rr.com (proxyb1-atm.san.rr.com [204.210.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D43815639 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:40:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from isando@dal.net) Received: from dal.net (dt061n6f.san.rr.com [204.210.36.111]) by proxyb1-atm.san.rr.com (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA20980 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3800DDCD.5BE2245D@dal.net> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:41:17 -0500 From: Jeff X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ATI Rage Mobility Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a new laptop with the 8MB ATI Rage Mobility, which does not appear to be supported at the time. I was curious if anyone has gotten this card to work with X? Jeff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 13:48:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from phile.com.au (patty.accessunited.com.au [203.46.135.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C6E514D4F for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:48:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phile@phile.com.au) Received: from willie.accessunited.com.au (willie.accessunited.com.au [203.46.135.139] ) by phile.com.au (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 06:51:38 +1000 Message-Id: <199910110651.3835974.6@phile.com.au> From: "Phillip" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 06:48:28 +1100 (EDT) Reply-To: "Phillip" X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <01bf138d$5ed691a0$LocalHost@signup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Sendmail Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't know what version of sendmail you are using, but the following comments refer to building V 8.9.3 from source. >sendmail presently does not allow me to sent out email. The problem appears >to be the sender's email is: user@hostname.ISP.co.uk, when it should be >user@ISP.co.uk. I realise that this problem is a result of my using a dialup >PPP link. This may not be the solution, but have a look at the "Dj" line in /etc/sendmail.cf and see if that will simply do what you want. > >Now all I have to do is recreate my /etc/sendmail.cf as per the FAQ >instructions (sections 8.18 and 8.19). According to these instructions once >I create my file foo.mc in the duirectory: /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/cf/cf, >I am then supposed to do a "make foo.mc". So m4 converts foo.mc to a foo.cf >(so as to later replace /etc/sendmail.cf). Now here lies the problem. I don't think thats the correct syntax - try: m4 /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/cf/m4/cf.m4 foo.mc > foo.cf Check the resulting foo.cf file and then copy it as sendmail.cf to /etc PS. It doesn't hurt to spend a litlle while at sendmail.org, especially at http://www.sendmail.org/m4/readme.html and check out the introduction and example. Cheers Phillip To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 13:48:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rift.com (rift.com [209.90.150.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A7BE14D4F for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:48:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from miguel@rift.com) Received: from localhost (miguel@localhost) by rift.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA23014 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 16:51:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 16:51:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Miguel Ramos To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: SoundBlaster PCI 128 detection under FreeBSD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings everyone, I recently purchased a SoundBlaster 128 PCI card, and am trying to get it working under FreeBSD. I read all the postings about it in the mailing list archives before posting here. It seems that this card is supported, (i am running 3.3-release) under the ensoniq driver. From what I can tell, I had to compile support for it in the kernel. I added the line: device es1 to the kernel and recompiled it. Upon bootup, it says the kernel detects the following: Oct 10 02:54:37 /kernel: es1: rev 0x01 int a irq 9 on pci0.10.0 Oct 10 02:54:37 /kernel: pcm1: using I/O space register mapping at 0x6500 (I don't know what pcm1 is, i didn't add that to the kernel) So it looks like it detects (did i do this right?), and I makedev'ed snd0 and snd1. Now as a test, x11amp was run on a test mp3. It seems like the mp3 is playing, but no sound is coming out of the speakers. If anyone has gotten their SoundBlaster 128 PCI to work, please let me know by private email (I am not subscribed to the list) how I can do this. Should enough people be curious about how to set it up I can also type up the instructions after I get this working and stick them on the web for people. Regards, Miguel Ramos Toronto, Ontario, Canada. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 14:54:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www.keycomp.net (www.keycomp.net [207.44.1.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F9315002 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 14:54:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billieakay@yahoo.com) Received: from bopper (kc-rmt07.keycomp.net [207.44.1.9]) by www.keycomp.net (8.8.5/SCO5) with SMTP id SAA07386 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:00:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <009801bf1369$fbc44120$01010101@bopper> From: "Bill A. K." To: "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: Re: SoundBlaster PCI 128 detection under FreeBSD Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 17:54:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Use mixer to adjust your volume. Thats all the problem is :) just type this to try it mixer vol 100 mixer pcm 100 also you might want to try this to get more info man mixer Good Luck Bill billieakay@yahoo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Miguel Ramos To: Sent: Sunday, October 10, 1999 4:51 PM Subject: SoundBlaster PCI 128 detection under FreeBSD > > Greetings everyone, > > I recently purchased a SoundBlaster 128 PCI card, and am trying to > get it working under FreeBSD. I read all the postings about it in the > mailing list archives before posting here. It seems that this card is > supported, (i am running 3.3-release) under the ensoniq driver. From what > I can tell, I had to compile support for it in the kernel. I added the > line: > > device es1 > > to the kernel and recompiled it. Upon bootup, it says the kernel detects > the following: > > Oct 10 02:54:37 /kernel: es1: rev 0x01 int a irq 9 on > pci0.10.0 > Oct 10 02:54:37 /kernel: pcm1: using I/O space register mapping at 0x6500 > > (I don't know what pcm1 is, i didn't add that to the kernel) > > So it looks like it detects (did i do this right?), and I makedev'ed > snd0 and snd1. Now as a test, x11amp was run on a test mp3. It seems > like the mp3 is playing, but no sound is coming out of the speakers. > > If anyone has gotten their SoundBlaster 128 PCI to work, please let me > know by private email (I am not subscribed to the list) how I can do this. > Should enough people be curious about how to set it up I can also type up > the instructions after I get this working and stick them on the web for > people. > > Regards, > > Miguel Ramos > Toronto, Ontario, Canada. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 14:57:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www.keycomp.net (www.keycomp.net [207.44.1.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD0B14FB7 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 14:57:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billieakay@yahoo.com) Received: from bopper (kc-rmt07.keycomp.net [207.44.1.9]) by www.keycomp.net (8.8.5/SCO5) with SMTP id SAA07395; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:04:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00a801bf136a$792fcc60$01010101@bopper> From: "Bill A. K." To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" , "FreeBSD Questions" References: <15889.939587880@monkeys.com> Subject: Re: cpu type ? Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 17:57:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, i586 is the correct type for the AMD K6-2 Good Luck Bill billieakay@yahoo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Ronald F. Guilmette To: Sent: Sunday, October 10, 1999 4:38 PM Subject: cpu type ? > > When configuring a kernel for an AMD K6/2 300, what is the most proper > CPU type to configure within the kernel configuration file? > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 15:10:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from logisticsoftware.co.nz (logisticsoftware.co.nz [202.37.163.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC1114ECA for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 15:10:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonc@logisticsoftware.co.nz) Received: (from jonc@localhost) by logisticsoftware.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16127; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:10:21 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:10:21 +1300 (NZDT) From: Jonathan Chen To: Rino Mardo Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Xircom pcmcia In-Reply-To: <000901bf1249$d48790b0$45010080@oht.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 9 Oct 1999, Rino Mardo wrote: > Hi. I wanted to try out FreeBSD but on your site my PCMCIA card is not among the list of supported cards. Could it be that it is supported now? > > My pcmcia card is a Xircom 10/100+56K (CEM56). I think that it's already been folded into the release tree. The driver's author's webpage is at: http://www.freebsd-uk.eu.org/~scott/xe_drv/ Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "A person should be able to do a small bit of everything, specialisation is for insects" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 16:25:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from scotty.masternet.it (scotty.masternet.it [194.184.65.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867F015930 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 16:24:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gmarco@scotty.masternet.it) Received: from suzy (modem24.masternet.it [194.184.65.34]) by scotty.masternet.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA87420; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 01:24:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gmarco@scotty.masternet.it) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991011011029.00a8ec50@194.184.65.4> X-Sender: gmarco@scotty.masternet.it X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 01:14:32 +0200 To: From: Gianmarco Giovannelli Subject: Re: colorls question Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <000001bf0e93$7328d360$0201010a@cmr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 04/10/99, you wrote: >I have colorls installed. I would like to just type "ls" or "dir" to get the >equivalent of typing "colorls -G", or if I type "dir -al" I get >"colorls -Gal" equivalent results. If you use csh or tcsh shell you can define an alias, add these lines in your .cshrc or .tcshrc : alias ll colorls -G -lg alias ls colorls -G -g -k and so on... Hope it helps... Best Regards, Gianmarco Giovannelli , "Unix expert since yesterday" http://www.giovannelli.it/~gmarco http://www2.masternet.it To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 16:39:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from leaf.lumiere.net (leaf.lumiere.net [207.218.152.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C726155C1 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 16:39:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j@leaf.lumiere.net) Received: (from j@localhost) by leaf.lumiere.net (8.9.2/8.9.1) id QAA17228; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 16:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 16:39:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Jesse To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: top + long usernames (+SMP?) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On one of my new systems running FreeBSD 3.3 (19991002-STABLE) I noticed that as soon as I added users to the system which long names (>8 chars), top widened the USERNAME field to 16 characters and shrunk the COMMAND field to 4 characters. Additionally, the header columns are longer than 80 characters and so therefore start wrapping and ruining the whole display. I'm running this on an SMP system, so there's also an extra C column which takes up more space. I don't know if the same screen space problem would occur without the SMP. Anyway, I was wondering if there was a way to limit the USERNAME colunm to 8 characters (even if there are longer usernames in the password file) while keeping the COMMAND column with it's full length (at least 10 chars). Currently with a 4 character limit on the COMMAND column, top is pretty useless. Thanks for your help in advance, --- Jesse http://www.lumiere.net/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 17:14:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from talking.talking.com (xata.winternet.com [199.199.125.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BEB15621 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 17:14:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tab@talking.com) Received: from loon (loon [204.246.103.50]) by talking.talking.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA05490 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:10:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19991010191321.009aba50@204.246.103.1> X-Sender: tab@204.246.103.1 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:13:22 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Terry Braun Subject: pccard_remove_controller, pcmcia Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I'm looking for some help with 3.3 release and pcmcia support. I can't seem to find a determinisic source of help for how this is supposed to work. I get messages from kldload about pcic.ko not being in modules (it wasn't) so I built it, but I get messages now about link_elf pccard_remove_controller undefined I really did look in the handbook and faq. thanks TErry ------------------- Terry Braun tab@talking.com Talking Networks, Inc. 612-963-6570 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 17:38: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB22B14F32 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 17:37:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id CAA08287 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 02:37:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA08511 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 01:50:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: backup method reccommendation? Date: 11 Oct 1999 01:50:16 +0200 Message-ID: <7tr8no$89m$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> References: <19991009123827.E12733@uberhacker.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Paul D . Schmidt wrote: > come up with a good method for backing up my system. I was reading about > dump/restore, but a dump backup couldn't be used to restore from a 3.2 > system to a 3.3 system, How did you get that idea? I strongly suggest to use dump/restore. > I thought about using tar, then I can just tar everything up and then > selectively restore files or directory trees.... tar as shipped with FreeBSD can't backup all devices in /dev. > but I'm a bit confused about the multi-volume aspect of tar....would > the following command line prompt me to change tapes after it has > backed up 2GB? (and keep going thru as many tapes as it needs?) > > tar cvplML 1930 / Yes. You probably don't want tar to be verbose here. Also, the p modifier is a nop for creating archives. Your root file system is 2+ GB large? > (I did some experiments and it uses the tape drive properly w/o an f arg) Coincidence. tar defaults to some device, but this default varies, e.g. I see an increasing number of Linux people who take it for granted that tar uses stdio by default. I strongly suggest to always either name the archive explicitly with the f modifier or to set the TAPE environment variable. > Also, I would need to do something like mt rewind before starting my > backup, correct? Customarily tapes are rewound at the end of the backup. Also, some (all?) tape drives rewind any newly inserted tape. > Since you have to explicitly state the tape size on the command > line I'm assuming I have to pretend the hardware compression isn't > there and just use the maximum guaranteed size of 2GB as opposed > to "up to 4GB"? You shouldn't need to give the tape size. There's a well established standard for the driver to return a short write when it meets the end of tape. The backup program will recognize this and prompt for a new tape. Both tar and dump support this. Try it. If it doesn't work (I guess this feature is somewhat prone to breakage) send in a bug report. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 18: 5: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (smtp13.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDB414D27 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:05:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from a.genkin@utoronto.ca) Received: from main.wgaf.net (HSE-TOR-ppp22822.sympatico.ca [209.226.71.112]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA22139 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 21:07:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from antipode by main.wgaf.net with local (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 11aUwk-0002yd-00; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 22:12:18 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Why use tape for backups? (was: backup method reccommendation?) References: <19991009123827.E12733@uberhacker.org> <7tr8no$89m$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> From: Arcady Genkin Date: 10 Oct 1999 22:12:18 -0400 In-Reply-To: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de's message of "Mon, 11 Oct 1999 01:50:16 +0200" Message-ID: <87iu4etzlp.fsf_-_@main.wgaf.net> Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070097 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.97) XEmacs/21.1 (Biscayne) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all: This discussion of backups to tape reminded me that I have always wondered, why do some people chose tape as backup solution for desktop pc's. It seems to me that it's much cheaper, faster, and more reliable to just buy another hard drive and dedicate it for backups. Is there any reasons tapes are a better choice? -- Arcady Genkin "You should seek your enemy, you should wage your war -- a war for your opinions. And if your opinion is defeated, your honesty should still cry triumph over that!" (F. Nietzsche) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 18: 9:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nebula.nift.net (DSL73-223.brandx.net [209.55.73.223]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D485114BF1 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:08:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from druid@eoe-magical.org) Received: from eoe-magical.org ([209.55.73.227]) by nebula.nift.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03267 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 17:40:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <38013A9F.E66BCCFC@eoe-magical.org> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:17:19 -0700 From: Donald X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions Subject: telnet Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I want to block telnet access but not ftp access, how do I change the login shell or what do I need to do to get this to work. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 18:18:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inil.com (inil.com [206.31.32.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC9B14D11 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:18:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from giesen@inil.com) Received: from inil.com ([209.176.240.178]) by mail.inil.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 177-57935U7500L650S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 20:17:57 -0500 Message-ID: <38013AD2.9C3884B@inil.com> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 20:18:11 -0500 From: giesen@inil.com (giesen) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Cc: giesen@inil.com, giesen@eis.comm.mot.com Subject: Plug-n-play modem woes Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------B47AE1BEDFB57BA83F5EB518" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B47AE1BEDFB57BA83F5EB518 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here's hoping someone can help... I've looked here for others with the same problem and checked out the FAQ's and "The Complete FreeBSD," but I seem to be at an impasse. I have an internal, plug-n-play Zoom V.34 33.6 Speakerphone faxmodem that I can't seem to get to a usable sio_. I have Win98 on one drive (0) and BSD on the other (the accomplishment of which is a story in its own right) and I wish to keep the system that way, indefinitely. The modem isn't a Winmodem, as far as I can tell; it worked fine under Debian Linux. (I was a bit disappointed that Netscape hiccups caused Linux to crash a few times and decided to give FreeBSD a try.) I had the modem configured for COM3, IRQ5, 0x3e8 under Windows and Linux. (It configured to ttyS2 in Linux.) So, I put the pnp ID that I found (I think -- it was the one in the square brackets in the pnp detection output), and a text field in the sippnp_ids[] struct in sio.c and edited the sio2 line in my kernel config file (removing the "disable"). When I try to use this configuration, the kernel keeps seeming to find the modem at sio4 (yep, four). Since my BIOS is finding the modem (printing its info as "Zoom V.34 33.6 Speakerphone SVD," Card Number 1, Device Number 0, DMA - NA, IRQ 5 at boot time), I tried running "boot -c" upon booting BSD, using "pnp 1 0 bios" -- to no effect. Whether I use boot -c or not, the kernel prints out a message to the effect that it found my modem at sio4. Furthermore, when I "enable" (removed "disable" and rebuild the kernel) sio2 and reboot, the kernel complains "sio2 not probed due to I/O address conflict with sio4 at 0x3e8." So, I decided to try my luck with moving the modem to COM2, IRQ3 -- with no luck. I disabled sio2 again and rebuilt the kernel and tried booting with "boot -c" and without. Again, BSD keeps seeing the modem at sio4 and complains about the address conflict when probing sio1. Can anyone tell me what I'm missing? I'd sure appreciate any words of wisdom. Thanks, Bob Giesen P.S. I'm enclosing the kernel config files with and without the "disable" specifier in the sio2 line (kernenbl.txt & kerndsbl.txt) and the dmesg output after trying to boot with each resultant kernel (dmsgenbl.txt & dmsgdsbl.txt), and the cut from the sio.c file that shows the altered siopnn_ids[] struct (sio_cut.c); that was the only alteration I made to that file. --------------B47AE1BEDFB57BA83F5EB518 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="kernenbl.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="kernenbl.txt" # # GIESEN -- My first crack at a kernel configuration file. # # For more information read the handbook part System Administration -> # Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel -> The Configuration File. # The handbook is available in /usr/share/doc/handbook or online as # latest version from the FreeBSD World Wide Web server # # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT. # # $Id: GIESEN 1.143.2.12 1999/05/14 15:12:26 jkh Exp $ machine "i386" #cpu "I386_CPU" #cpu "I486_CPU" #cpu "I586_CPU" cpu "I686_CPU" ident GIESEN maxusers 32 #options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MFS_ROOT #MFS usable as root device, "MFS" req'ed options NFS #Network Filesystem options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, "NFS" req'ed options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options "CD9660_ROOT" #CD-ROM usable as root. "CD9660" req'ed options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] #options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options FAILSAFE #Be conservative options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor config kernel root on wd1 # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed #options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel #options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O # Optionally these may need tweaked, (defaults shown): #options NCPU=2 # number of CPUs #options NBUS=4 # number of busses #options NAPIC=1 # number of IO APICs #options NINTR=24 # number of INTs controller isa0 controller pnp0 controller eisa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 options "CMD640" # work around CMD640 chip deficiency controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus options ATAPI_STATIC #Don't do it as an LKM device acd0 #IDE CD-ROM #device wfd0 #IDE Floppy (e.g. LS-120) # A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc) is # sufficient for any number of installed devices. controller ncr0 controller ahb0 controller ahc0 controller isp0 # This controller offers a number of configuration options, too many to # document here - see the LINT file in this directory and look up the # dpt0 entry there for much fuller documentation on this. controller dpt0 controller adv0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? controller adw0 controller bt0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? controller aha0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? controller scbus0 device da0 device sa0 device pass0 device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows device wt0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 device mcd0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10 controller matcd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio device scd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio # atkbdc0 controlls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1 device psm0 at isa? tty irq 12 device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? tty # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? tty # MAXCONS sets the maximum number of virtual consoles (via Alt-F? keys) options MAXCONS=12 #options XSERVER # support for X server #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std device npx0 at isa? port IO_NPX irq 13 # # Laptop support (see LINT for more options) # device apm0 at isa? disable flags 0x31 # Advanced Power Management # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support #controller card0 #device pcic0 at card? #device pcic1 at card? device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" flags 0x10 tty irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 device sio2 at isa? port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 device sio3 at isa? disable port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? port? flags 0x40 net irq 7 controller ppbus0 device lpt0 at ppbus? device plip0 at ppbus? device ppi0 at ppbus? #controller vpo0 at ppbus? # # The following Ethernet NICs are all PCI devices. # #device ax0 # ASIX AX88140A #device de0 # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') #device fxp0 # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) #device mx0 # Macronix 98713/98715/98725 (``PMAC'') #device pn0 # Lite-On 82c168/82c169 (``PNIC'') #device rl0 # RealTek 8129/8139 #device tl0 # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN #device tx0 # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'') #device vr0 # VIA Rhine, Rhine II #device vx0 # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') #device wb0 # Winbond W89C840F #device xl0 # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 device ex0 at isa? port? net irq? device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ? device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0 device ze0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 device zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 device cs0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ? pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether #pseudo-device sl 1 pseudo-device ppp 1 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device speaker # Play IBM BASIC-style noises from speaker #pseudo-device log # For logging of kernel messages pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's # KTRACE enables the system-call tracing facility ktrace(2). # This adds 4 KB bloat to your kernel, and slightly increases # the costs of each syscall. options KTRACE #kernel tracing # This provides support for System V shared memory and message queues. # options SYSVSHM options SYSVMSG options SYSVSEM # The `bpfilter' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. Be # aware of the legal and administrative consequences of enabling this # option. The number of devices determines the maximum number of # simultaneous BPF clients programs runnable. #pseudo-device bpfilter 4 #Berkeley packet filter --------------B47AE1BEDFB57BA83F5EB518 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="kerndsbl.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="kerndsbl.txt" # # GIESEN -- My first crack at a kernel configuration file. # # For more information read the handbook part System Administration -> # Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel -> The Configuration File. # The handbook is available in /usr/share/doc/handbook or online as # latest version from the FreeBSD World Wide Web server # # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT. # # $Id: GIESEN 1.143.2.12 1999/05/14 15:12:26 jkh Exp $ machine "i386" #cpu "I386_CPU" #cpu "I486_CPU" #cpu "I586_CPU" cpu "I686_CPU" ident GIESEN maxusers 32 #options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MFS_ROOT #MFS usable as root device, "MFS" req'ed options NFS #Network Filesystem options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, "NFS" req'ed options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options "CD9660_ROOT" #CD-ROM usable as root. "CD9660" req'ed options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] #options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options FAILSAFE #Be conservative options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor config kernel root on wd1 # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed #options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel #options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O # Optionally these may need tweaked, (defaults shown): #options NCPU=2 # number of CPUs #options NBUS=4 # number of busses #options NAPIC=1 # number of IO APICs #options NINTR=24 # number of INTs controller isa0 controller pnp0 controller eisa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 options "CMD640" # work around CMD640 chip deficiency controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus options ATAPI_STATIC #Don't do it as an LKM device acd0 #IDE CD-ROM #device wfd0 #IDE Floppy (e.g. LS-120) # A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc) is # sufficient for any number of installed devices. controller ncr0 controller ahb0 controller ahc0 controller isp0 # This controller offers a number of configuration options, too many to # document here - see the LINT file in this directory and look up the # dpt0 entry there for much fuller documentation on this. controller dpt0 controller adv0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? controller adw0 controller bt0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? controller aha0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? controller scbus0 device da0 device sa0 device pass0 device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows device wt0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 device mcd0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10 controller matcd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio device scd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio # atkbdc0 controlls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1 device psm0 at isa? tty irq 12 device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? tty # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? tty # MAXCONS sets the maximum number of virtual consoles (via Alt-F? keys) options MAXCONS=12 #options XSERVER # support for X server #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std device npx0 at isa? port IO_NPX irq 13 # # Laptop support (see LINT for more options) # device apm0 at isa? disable flags 0x31 # Advanced Power Management # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support #controller card0 #device pcic0 at card? #device pcic1 at card? device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" flags 0x10 tty irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 device sio2 at isa? disable port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 device sio3 at isa? disable port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? port? flags 0x40 net irq 7 controller ppbus0 device lpt0 at ppbus? device plip0 at ppbus? device ppi0 at ppbus? #controller vpo0 at ppbus? # # The following Ethernet NICs are all PCI devices. # #device ax0 # ASIX AX88140A #device de0 # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') #device fxp0 # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) #device mx0 # Macronix 98713/98715/98725 (``PMAC'') #device pn0 # Lite-On 82c168/82c169 (``PNIC'') #device rl0 # RealTek 8129/8139 #device tl0 # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN #device tx0 # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'') #device vr0 # VIA Rhine, Rhine II #device vx0 # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') #device wb0 # Winbond W89C840F #device xl0 # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 device ex0 at isa? port? net irq? device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ? device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0 device ze0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 device zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 device cs0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ? pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether #pseudo-device sl 1 pseudo-device ppp 1 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device speaker # Play IBM BASIC-style noises from speaker #pseudo-device log # For logging of kernel messages pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's # KTRACE enables the system-call tracing facility ktrace(2). # This adds 4 KB bloat to your kernel, and slightly increases # the costs of each syscall. options KTRACE #kernel tracing # This provides support for System V shared memory and message queues. # options SYSVSHM options SYSVMSG options SYSVSEM # The `bpfilter' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. Be # aware of the legal and administrative consequences of enabling this # option. The number of devices determines the maximum number of # simultaneous BPF clients programs runnable. #pseudo-device bpfilter 4 #Berkeley packet filter --------------B47AE1BEDFB57BA83F5EB518 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="dmsgenbl.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="dmsgenbl.txt" Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE #3: Sun Oct 10 16:20:59 CDT 1999 root@giesen:/usr/src/sys/compile/GIESEN Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Cyrix 6x86MX (208.38-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "CyrixInstead" Id = 0x600 Stepping=0 DIR=0x0752 Features=0x80a135 real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) config> di zp0 config> di ze0 config> di lnc0 config> di le0 config> di ie0 config> di fe0 config> di ex0 config> di ep0 config> di ed0 config> di cs0 config> di wt0 config> di scd0 config> di mcd0 config> di matcdc0 config> di bt0 config> di aha0 config> di adv0 config> q FreeBSD Kernel Configuration Utility - Version 1.2 Type "help" for help or "visual" to go to the visual configuration interface (requires MGA/VGA display or serial terminal capable of displaying ANSI graphics). config> pnp 1 0 bios config> quit avail memory = 29638656 (28944K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc031e000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc031e09c. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x04 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x04 on pci0.1.0 chip2: rev 0xb4 on pci0.7.0 ide_pci0: rev 0x20 int a irq 255 on pci0.15.0 Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: vga0: rev 0x06 int a irq 11 on pci1.0.0 Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: ZTIf761 [0x61f7896a] Serial 0x0013d761 Comp ID: @@@0000 [0x00000000] sio4: type 16550A sio4 (siopnp sn 0x0013d761) at 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 5 on isa Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <12 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 irq 12 on isa psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A sio2 not probed due to I/O address conflict with sio4 at 0x3e8 fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in fd1: 1.2MB 5.25in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 12427MB (25450992 sectors), 25249 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): wd1: 12427MB (25450992 sectors), 25249 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, accel, dma, iordis acd0: drive speed 687 - 6875KB/sec, 128KB cache acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA, packet track acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 plip0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface changing root device to wd1s1a --------------B47AE1BEDFB57BA83F5EB518 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="dmsgdsbl.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="dmsgdsbl.txt" Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE #2: Sun Oct 10 10:24:21 CDT 1999 root@giesen:/usr/src/sys/compile/GIESEN Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Cyrix 6x86MX (208.38-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "CyrixInstead" Id = 0x600 Stepping=0 DIR=0x0752 Features=0x80a135 real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) config> di zp0 config> di ze0 config> di lnc0 config> di le0 config> di ie0 config> di fe0 config> di ex0 config> di ep0 config> di ed0 config> di cs0 config> di wt0 config> di scd0 config> di mcd0 config> di matcdc0 config> di bt0 config> di aha0 config> di adv0 config> q FreeBSD Kernel Configuration Utility - Version 1.2 Type "help" for help or "visual" to go to the visual configuration interface (requires MGA/VGA display or serial terminal capable of displaying ANSI graphics). config> pnp 1 0 bios config> quit avail memory = 29638656 (28944K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc031e000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc031e09c. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x04 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x04 on pci0.1.0 chip2: rev 0xb4 on pci0.7.0 ide_pci0: rev 0x20 int a irq 255 on pci0.15.0 Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: vga0: rev 0x06 int a irq 11 on pci1.0.0 Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: ZTIf761 [0x61f7896a] Serial 0x0013d761 Comp ID: @@@0000 [0x00000000] sio4: type 16550A sio4 (siopnp sn 0x0013d761) at 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 5 on isa Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <12 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 irq 12 on isa psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in fd1: 1.2MB 5.25in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 12427MB (25450992 sectors), 25249 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): wd1: 12427MB (25450992 sectors), 25249 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, accel, dma, iordis acd0: drive speed 687 - 6875KB/sec, 128KB cache acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA, packet track acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 plip0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface changing root device to wd1s1a --------------B47AE1BEDFB57BA83F5EB518 Content-Type: application/x-unknown-content-type-c_auto_file; name="sio_cut.c" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="sio_cut.c" c3RhdGljIHBucGlkX3Qgc2lvcG5wX2lkc1tdID0gewoJeyAweDUwMTVmNDM1LCAiTU9UMTU1 MCJ9LAoJeyAweDgxMTNiMDRlLCAiU3VwcmExMzgxIn0sCgl7IDB4OTAxMmIwNGUsICJTdXBy YTEyOTAifSwKCXsgMHg3MTIxYjA0ZSwgIlN1cHJhRXhwcmVzcyA1NmkgU3AifSwKCXsgMHgx MTAwNzI1NiwgIlVTUjAwMTEifSwKCXsgMHgzMDIwNzI1NiwgIlVTUjIwMzAifSwKCXsgMHgz MTMwNzI1NiwgIlVTUjMwMzEifSwKCXsgMHg5MDMwNzI1NiwgIlVTUjMwOTAifSwKCXsgMHgw MTAwNDQwZSwgIkNhcmRpbmFsIE1WUDI4OElWIn0sCiAgICAgICAgeyAweDYxZjc4OTZhLCAi Wm9vbSAzMy42IEZheC1Nb2RlbS1TcGVha2VycGhvbmUiIH0sCgl7IDAgfQp9OwoK --------------B47AE1BEDFB57BA83F5EB518-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 18:22:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8375414BD3 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:22:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@oldserver.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.105.241] (helo=propro) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 11aUAW-0002Yo-00; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 01:22:28 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 03:22:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Marc Schneiders To: Donald Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: telnet In-Reply-To: <38013A9F.E66BCCFC@eoe-magical.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, Donald wrote: > I want to block telnet access but not ftp access, how do I change the > login shell > or what do I need to do to get this to work. > Thanks. Comment the one you do not want out in /etc/inetd.conf and it won't be run next time inetd is started. Marc -- Marc Schneiders || || marc@venster.nl || Null message body; marc@oldserver.demon.nl || hope that's ok To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 18:33:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.volant.org (phoenix.volant.org [205.179.79.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36CF2150AB for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:33:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patl@phoenix.volant.org) Received: from asimov.phoenix.volant.org ([205.179.79.65]) by phoenix.volant.org with smtp (Exim 1.92 #8) id 11aULL-0004pu-00; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:33:39 -0700 Received: from localhost by asimov.phoenix.volant.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA26927; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:33:35 -0700 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:33:35 -0700 (PDT) From: patl@phoenix.volant.org Reply-To: patl@phoenix.volant.org Subject: Re: Why use tape for backups? (was: backup method reccommendation?) To: Arcady Genkin Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <87iu4etzlp.fsf_-_@main.wgaf.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 10-Oct-99 at 18:05, Arcady Genkin (a.genkin@utoronto.ca) wrote: > This discussion of backups to tape reminded me that I have always > wondered, why do some people chose tape as backup solution for desktop > pc's. > > It seems to me that it's much cheaper, faster, and more reliable to > just buy another hard drive and dedicate it for backups. > > Is there any reasons tapes are a better choice? A second disk gets you only one generation of backup. And if something catastrophic happens during the backup, it may be corrupted too leaving you with -no- backup. If you want multiple generations; and/or have many disks or systems to backup, you can't beat the price per bit or reliability of tape. -Pat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 18:43: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D82C15539 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:43:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brooks@one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from localhost (brdavis@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16549; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:42:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.ac.hmc.edu: brdavis owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:42:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Brooks Davis X-Sender: brdavis@orion.ac.hmc.edu To: Arcady Genkin Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why use tape for backups? (was: backup method reccommendation?) In-Reply-To: <87iu4etzlp.fsf_-_@main.wgaf.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 10 Oct 1999, Arcady Genkin wrote: > This discussion of backups to tape reminded me that I have always > wondered, why do some people chose tape as backup solution for desktop > pc's. > > It seems to me that it's much cheaper, faster, and more reliable to > just buy another hard drive and dedicate it for backups. > > Is there any reasons tapes are a better choice? Several. - Try doing an offsite, archival backup with a HD. You can do it, but it certaintly isn't cheap. - Try keeping multiple versions of a nearly full disk with a HD. - Disk controlers and/or cables can and do fail in messy ways which eat drives (I has a Sun SPARC 5 that ate 3-4 disks before we has Sun replace the mother board, and a friend of mine had a drive cable go bad such that it mangled his disks quite consistantly), if you backup is sitting on your shelf, no system failure which doesn't burn the house down is going to touch it. - If you're a normal IDE user, what if you have two full disks to backup, with a CDROM drive around, you can't add enough HDs to do backups on. - If you're a SCSI user with more then one fast disk you're allready into the range where tapes are cheaper. In summary, if you really care about your data, hard drives are likely a more expensive option. Anyway, who wants to end up with only one machine anyway. ;-) -- Brooks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 18:52:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4556314D8E for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:52:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id LAA23882; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:22:42 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:22:42 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: backup method reccommendation? Message-ID: <19991011112242.R78191@freebie.lemis.com> References: <19991009123827.E12733@uberhacker.org> <7tr8no$89m$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <7tr8no$89m$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 11 October 1999 at 1:50:16 +0200, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Paul D . Schmidt wrote: > >> come up with a good method for backing up my system. I was reading about >> dump/restore, but a dump backup couldn't be used to restore from a 3.2 >> system to a 3.3 system, > > How did you get that idea? > I strongly suggest to use dump/restore. dump and restore are fine if you really only ever want to restore to the same operating system. They're not portable across different systems. For this reason, I prefer tar. >> I thought about using tar, then I can just tar everything up and then >> selectively restore files or directory trees.... > > tar as shipped with FreeBSD can't backup all devices in /dev. Correct. The version in -CURRENT (and thus in a -RELEASE coming soon) can do this, however. And normally that's not an issue, since you can rebuild devices with MAKEDEV. >> Also, I would need to do something like mt rewind before starting my >> backup, correct? > > Customarily tapes are rewound at the end of the backup. That depends on what you ask for. It's possible to remove a QIC tape without rewinding it, but DDS, Exabyte and DLT all have to be rewound before you can remove them. If you're using the non-rewind tape device, however, you may need to do an explicit rewind. In most cases, 'mt unload' is more useful than 'mt rewind'. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 18:54:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B12E150AB for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:54:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id LAA23899; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:24:17 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:24:17 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: patl@phoenix.volant.org Cc: Arcady Genkin , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why use tape for backups? (was: backup method reccommendation?) Message-ID: <19991011112417.S78191@freebie.lemis.com> References: <87iu4etzlp.fsf_-_@main.wgaf.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 10 October 1999 at 18:33:35 -0700, patl@phoenix.volant.org wrote: > On 10-Oct-99 at 18:05, Arcady Genkin (a.genkin@utoronto.ca) wrote: >> This discussion of backups to tape reminded me that I have always >> wondered, why do some people chose tape as backup solution for desktop >> pc's. >> >> It seems to me that it's much cheaper, faster, and more reliable to >> just buy another hard drive and dedicate it for backups. >> >> Is there any reasons tapes are a better choice? > > A second disk gets you only one generation of backup. And if > something catastrophic happens during the backup, it may be > corrupted too leaving you with -no- backup. Well, that can happen with tapes, too. > If you want multiple generations; and/or have many disks or systems > to backup, you can't beat the price per bit or reliability of tape. This used to be the correct answer. I'm no longer sure it is. Certainly I think that the current generation of tape units is *much* less reliable than hard disk. The media are cheaper, but when I consider the number of DDS drives I wore out doing regular daily backups, I think that backing up to disk might have been cheaper. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 19:21:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.volant.org (phoenix.volant.org [205.179.79.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21460151F5 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:21:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patl@phoenix.volant.org) Received: from asimov.phoenix.volant.org ([205.179.79.65]) by phoenix.volant.org with smtp (Exim 1.92 #8) id 11aV5Q-0004tB-00; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:21:16 -0700 Received: from localhost by asimov.phoenix.volant.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA26943; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:21:12 -0700 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:21:12 -0700 (PDT) From: patl@phoenix.volant.org Reply-To: patl@phoenix.volant.org Subject: Re: Why use tape for backups? (was: backup method reccommendation?) To: Greg Lehey Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19991011112417.S78191@freebie.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 10-Oct-99 at 18:54, Greg Lehey (grog@lemis.com) wrote: > > A second disk gets you only one generation of backup. And if > > something catastrophic happens during the backup, it may be > > corrupted too leaving you with -no- backup. > > Well, that can happen with tapes, too. Yes, if you are foolish enough to reuse a single backup tape instead of at least switching back and forth between two. (Or, better yet, having a real backup cycle among multiple tapes.) > > If you want multiple generations; and/or have many disks or systems > > to backup, you can't beat the price per bit or reliability of tape. > > This used to be the correct answer. I'm no longer sure it is. > Certainly I think that the current generation of tape units is *much* > less reliable than hard disk. The media are cheaper, but when I > consider the number of DDS drives I wore out doing regular daily > backups, I think that backing up to disk might have been cheaper. Maybe DDS wasn't the right choice. I've been using Exabyte 8mm backups for years, both personally and at various companies; and I've had more problems with disk drives going bad than I have with tape drives. Also, the physical density is much higher for tapes. I can keep archival tape backups in a -much- smaller space than the equivalent disk volume. For personal use with a single desktop machine, something like a Jaz drive might be a reasonable alternative to tape; especially since it would also be useful as a non-backup removable media drive. But it really doesn't scale well. For example, it is very difficult to do a scheduled backup that won't fit on a single cartridge. But with tapes, per-tape capacities are much higher (40Gb or more) and auto-loaders are readily available. I'd love to find a viable alternative to tape; but so far, nothing has been able to quite measure up on the combination of price-per-bit, archival quality, overall capacity, and ease of use. Maybe in a couple of years (re)writable DVD-ROMs with a carrousel be an option; but for now, tape rules. -Pat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 19:26: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2483514C2A for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:26:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA29706; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 22:28:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cjc) From: "Crist J. Clark" Message-Id: <199910110228.WAA29706@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Subject: Re: Why use tape for backups? (was: backup method reccommendation?) In-Reply-To: <19991011112417.S78191@freebie.lemis.com> from Greg Lehey at "Oct 11, 1999 11:24:17 am" To: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 22:28:08 -0400 (EDT) Cc: patl@phoenix.volant.org, a.genkin@utoronto.ca (Arcady Genkin), freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: cjclark@home.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Lehey wrote, > On Sunday, 10 October 1999 at 18:33:35 -0700, patl@phoenix.volant.org wrote: > > On 10-Oct-99 at 18:05, Arcady Genkin (a.genkin@utoronto.ca) wrote: > >> This discussion of backups to tape reminded me that I have always > >> wondered, why do some people chose tape as backup solution for desktop > >> pc's. [snip] > > If you want multiple generations; and/or have many disks or systems > > to backup, you can't beat the price per bit or reliability of tape. > > This used to be the correct answer. I'm no longer sure it is. > Certainly I think that the current generation of tape units is *much* > less reliable than hard disk. The media are cheaper, but when I > consider the number of DDS drives I wore out doing regular daily > backups, I think that backing up to disk might have been cheaper. Which is why I do both. Daily incrementals go to HDD, and the weekly level 0's that are archived "forever[0]" go on tape. [0] How long this is is a very ugly and complicated question... which I will once again learn next week trying to get some old code off our old (10+ years) VAX backups tapes. But I'm not starting that thread. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 19:28:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345D914E30 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:28:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ryturner@vt.edu) Received: from mail.vt.edu (gkar.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.40]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA13652 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 22:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alky2.ntc.off-campus.vt.edu ([208.35.70.25]) by gkar.cc.vt.edu (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.05.24.18.28.p7) with SMTP id <0FJF003BL2VGRW@gkar.cc.vt.edu> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 22:28:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 22:27:38 -0400 From: Ryan Turner Subject: BTX loader problems X-Sender: ryturner@mail.vt.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <3.0.6.32.19991010222738.00804590@mail.vt.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to install FreeBSD 3.3-Release. When I boot with the first disk, I get: /boot.conf -P Keyboard: no - BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01 And then it just freezes. I have previously installed FreeBSD on this computer, so I am not sure why it does not detect the keyboard. The motherboard is a FIC-CL31A. Ryan Turner ryturner@vt.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 19:39: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5E514EB5 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:39:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id MAA24149; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:08:55 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:08:55 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: patl@phoenix.volant.org Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why use tape for backups? (was: backup method reccommendation?) Message-ID: <19991011120854.U78191@freebie.lemis.com> References: <19991011112417.S78191@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 10 October 1999 at 19:21:12 -0700, patl@phoenix.volant.org wrote: > On 10-Oct-99 at 18:54, Greg Lehey (grog@lemis.com) wrote: >>> A second disk gets you only one generation of backup. And if >>> something catastrophic happens during the backup, it may be >>> corrupted too leaving you with -no- backup. >> >> Well, that can happen with tapes, too. > > Yes, if you are foolish enough to reuse a single backup tape instead > of at least switching back and forth between two. (Or, better yet, > having a real backup cycle among multiple tapes.) The same argumentation applies to disks. >>> If you want multiple generations; and/or have many disks or systems >>> to backup, you can't beat the price per bit or reliability of tape. >> >> This used to be the correct answer. I'm no longer sure it is. >> Certainly I think that the current generation of tape units is *much* >> less reliable than hard disk. The media are cheaper, but when I >> consider the number of DDS drives I wore out doing regular daily >> backups, I think that backing up to disk might have been cheaper. > > Maybe DDS wasn't the right choice. I've been using Exabyte 8mm > backups for years, both personally and at various companies; and > I've had more problems with disk drives going bad than I have with > tape drives. I've used Exabyte and DDS. I've had many problems with each. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 19:58:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C7FB14EB5 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:58:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA50152; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 21:58:04 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 21:58:04 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Greg Lehey Cc: patl@phoenix.volant.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why use tape for backups? (was: backup method reccommendation?) Message-ID: <19991010215804.A50053@dan.emsphone.com> References: <19991011112417.S78191@freebie.lemis.com> <19991011120854.U78191@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <19991011120854.U78191@freebie.lemis.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Oct 11), Greg Lehey said: > On Sunday, 10 October 1999 at 19:21:12 -0700, patl@phoenix.volant.org wrote: > > On 10-Oct-99 at 18:54, Greg Lehey (grog@lemis.com) wrote: > >>> A second disk gets you only one generation of backup. And if > >>> something catastrophic happens during the backup, it may be > >>> corrupted too leaving you with -no- backup. > >> > >> Well, that can happen with tapes, too. > > > > Yes, if you are foolish enough to reuse a single backup tape > > instead of at least switching back and forth between two. (Or, > > better yet, having a real backup cycle among multiple tapes.) > > The same argumentation applies to disks. It's a lot easier to swap tapes than disks :) > > Maybe DDS wasn't the right choice. I've been using Exabyte 8mm > > backups for years, both personally and at various companies; and > > I've had more problems with disk drives going bad than I have with > > tape drives. > > I've used Exabyte and DDS. I've had many problems with each. Our company started with DDS, then moved to Exabyte, and now we're using DLTs. Our Exabyte drives needed cleaning every 5 full tape passes, and our DLTs go months without cleaning. For home users, either Exabyte or DDS is okay. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@emsphone.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 19:58:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pop3-3.enteract.com (pop3-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EEE1A14EB5 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:58:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dscheidt@enteract.com) Received: (qmail 5585 invoked from network); 11 Oct 1999 02:58:51 -0000 Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (dscheidt@207.229.143.42) by pop3-3.enteract.com with SMTP; 11 Oct 1999 02:58:51 -0000 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 21:58:51 -0500 (CDT) From: David Scheidt To: Greg Lehey Cc: patl@phoenix.volant.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why use tape for backups? (was: backup method reccommendation?) In-Reply-To: <19991011120854.U78191@freebie.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Oct 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: > > Yes, if you are foolish enough to reuse a single backup tape instead > > of at least switching back and forth between two. (Or, better yet, > > having a real backup cycle among multiple tapes.) > > The same argumentation applies to disks. It is really expensive to do lots of generation of backups to tape. > > I've used Exabyte and DDS. I've had many problems with each. I have used 9 track ,QIC, Exabyte, DDS, and DLT. I find 9 track and DLT to be the most reliable. I have more DLT tape drive failures than media failures. And they are fast, and hold lots. They aren't cheap though. This is why at home, I backup to CD-RW, which hasn't had any failures yet. David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 20: 4:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D9114A08 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 20:04:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wasprouse@earthlink.net) Received: from grazzt (1Cust179.tnt3.gulfport.ms.da.uu.net [63.25.190.179]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA26371 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 20:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 22:04:04 -0500 Message-ID: <01BF136B.5DEB66C0.wasprouse@earthlink.net> From: Wayne Sprouse To: "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: X-Windows Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 22:04:03 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Whom It May Concern: When I enter into any of the X Windows the display is very bad. I have tried multiple this out of The Complete FreeBSD book but the display is still bad. The problems are as follows: 1) Not all of the words or writings in a windows is displayed 2) The screen does not refresh 3) It keeps defaulting to 8 bpp at 640x480 even though when I start the X windows I type in "startx -bpp 24 -bestRefresh 4) My video card keeps defaulting to 1 MB of memory even though I have specified that it has 8 MB. I have gone through the X86Config and specified my Monitors Horizontal and Vertical refresh rates (30-70 and 50-160) and have selected my video card and entered all the data for it (Diamond SpeedStar A50 8MB with the SiS63xx RamDac.) Could you please help me with these problems please. I would like that thank you in advance for all your help. Sincerely, Wayne Sprouse To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 20: 8:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from zeus.tassie.net.au (zeus.tassie.net.au [203.57.213.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89DB4151FF for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 20:08:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@tassie.net.au) Received: from herman (ante.hbt.off.tassie.net.au [203.57.212.22]) by zeus.tassie.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14936 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:08:13 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991007103350.009bc790@imap.tassie.net.au> X-Sender: scott@imap.tassie.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:49:33 +1100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Scott Donovan Subject: Backup Solutions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi everyone, We have been working away with a single dat drive for a while to do our backups but it has just about stretched to its limit.. We are now looking at a dds3 autoloader which should do the job capacity wise for a while. However I would like to take the oppourtunity to upgrade our backup software a little. We currently have NT and FreeBSD 3.3 Machines throughout our network. Anyone got any suggestions ?? Legato ?? Net Backup ?? Amanda ? Cheers, Scott D. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 20:18:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96B214DB7 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 20:18:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from localhost (jcw@localhost) by s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA89376; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:20:37 GMT (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: s8-37-26.student.washington.edu: jcw owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:20:37 +0000 (GMT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jcw@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Wayne Sprouse Cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: X-Windows In-Reply-To: <01BF136B.5DEB66C0.wasprouse@earthlink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, Wayne Sprouse wrote: >To Whom It May Concern: Lots of stuff. Find your log file (e.g. /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-errs) and see what it says. It will often help you determine what the problem is. Thank You, | http://students.washington.edu/jcwells Jason Wells | "Those who would trade freedom for security deserve neither | freedom nor security." - Benjamin Franklin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 20:25: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from physics.clarku.edu (planck.clarku.edu [140.232.2.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7627914C3D for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 20:25:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjohnson@physics.clarku.edu) Received: (from gjohnson@localhost) by physics.clarku.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) id XAA17918 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 23:25:02 -0400 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 23:25:02 -0400 From: Greg Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: X11 on alpha Message-ID: <19991010232502.A17654@physics.clarku.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i X-Operating-System: Linux planck 2.2.12 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have recently installed FreeBSD for the first time on my alpha (AS200). Unfortunately, I can't seem to get X11 working. Here is the error I get by running either 'startx' or 'xinit' directly (as root): XFree86 Version 3.3.3.1 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300) Release Date: January 4 1999 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Operating System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT alpha [ELF] Configured drivers: SVGA: server for SVGA graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0): NV1, STG2000, RIVA128, RIVATNT, mga2064w, mga1064sg, mga2164w, mga2164w AGP, mgag200, mgag100, s3_virge, generic Fatal server error: xf86OpenConsole: Server must be running with root permissions You should be using Xwrapper to start the server or xdm. We strongly advise against making the server SUID root! When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send the full server output, not just the last messages X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). The odd thing is that if I run the server directly (XF86_SVGA), I actually get the X11 background and cursor. I believe I have set up my XF86Config correctly. Also, I installed FreeBSD 3.3R, even the above says FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT. Does anyone have any advice of where to look? Thanks, Greg -- Greg Johnson gjohnson@physics.clarku.edu http://physics.clarku.edu/~gjohnson finger for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 20:36:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wank.necropolis.org (wank.westin16.flyingcroc.net [207.246.128.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7179514E07 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 20:36:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from todd@flyingcroc.net) Received: from localhost (todd@localhost) by wank.necropolis.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA21516; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 20:44:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from todd@flyingcroc.net) X-Authentication-Warning: wank.necropolis.org: todd owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 20:44:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Backman X-Sender: todd@wank.necropolis.org To: Scott Donovan Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Backup Solutions In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19991007103350.009bc790@imap.tassie.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I would suggest looking at the software aspect of the backup system initally. Our company purchased a nifty sidwinder before looking at the software and I spent 40hrs working with Amanda only to find out that it would not do the job with that particular changer (the restore portion...). We currently use BRU. - Todd On Mon, 11 Oct 1999, Scott Donovan wrote: > Hi everyone, > > We have been working away with a single dat drive for a while to do our > backups but it has just about stretched to its limit.. > > We are now looking at a dds3 autoloader which should do the job capacity > wise for a while. However I would like to take the oppourtunity to upgrade > our backup software a little. We currently have NT and FreeBSD 3.3 Machines > throughout our network. Anyone got any suggestions ?? Legato ?? Net Backup > ?? Amanda ? > > Cheers, > Scott D. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 20:56: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.usls.edu (linux1.usls.edu [202.47.133.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA6614E74 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 20:55:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from francis@usls.edu) Received: by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix, from userid 500) id 56D23A4CF; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:49:43 +0800 (PHT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DD167D91 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:49:43 +0800 (PHT) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:49:43 +0800 (PHT) From: "Francis A. Vidal" To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: output of tail on fixed tty Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi all, just want to know of i can put all the output of `tail -f /some/file' to a fixed tty, say tty8 or tty9? thanks! -- francis vidal university of st. la salle, bacolod city, philippines . . . . . . . PGP key available via e-mail / subject: get PGP key u s l s N E T tel. nos. (6334).435.2324 / 433.3526 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 20:57:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wally.bellnetworks.net (www.bellnetworks.net [216.214.153.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0944214E74 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 20:57:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jerry@bellnetworks.net) Received: from bellnetworks.net (alice.bellnetworks.net [216.214.153.74]) by wally.bellnetworks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA50085; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 23:57:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerry@bellnetworks.net) Message-ID: <38015F88.A4850A33@bellnetworks.net> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 23:54:48 -0400 From: Jerry Bell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fadi Sodah Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: security References: <19991009163225.19838.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There is a pretty good summary of hardening FreeBSD at http://www.bellnetworks.net/cs/index.php3 "Essential System Administration" by O'Reilly will also help explain file owenship, permissions and umasks. Jerry Fadi Sodah wrote: > > Hi > I am looking to learn more about Unix/BSD > security as far as setting up syslog,umask > values, file ownership, ftp, creating profiles, > NFS, Firewall and anything else to secure severs. > > Thanks. > pons > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 21: 1:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dot.crosswinds.net (dot.crosswinds.net [204.50.152.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E43B714E74 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 21:01:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rjlynn@crosswinds.net) Received: from oemcomputer (pm3will1-38.uplink.net [209.173.92.39]) by dot.crosswinds.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA81980 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 00:01:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rjlynn@crosswinds.net) Message-ID: <000501bf139d$e5641d40$275cadd1@oemcomputer> From: "Robert J Lynn Jr" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: PnPray modem Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 00:05:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a plugnpray modem in this computer. Can someone point me to a = howto to set it up? please send to me directly as i am not on the list.=20 Thanks. -TeChYMaN Any Opinions are just mine... Or maybe the CIA made me do it... Well... That's classified. Can't tell you any of that! ICQ UIN: 1844902 alt.sex.fetish.linux?? Someone is messed up. rjlynn@crosswinds(DAHWT)com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 21:25:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5354B15162 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 21:25:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@wintelcom.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA25879; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 21:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 21:44:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Jeff Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATI Rage Mobility In-Reply-To: <3800DDCD.5BE2245D@dal.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, Jeff wrote: > I have a new laptop with the 8MB ATI Rage Mobility, which does not > appear to be supported at the time. I was curious if anyone has gotten > this card to work with X? I've found the generic ATI driver in Xfree to be pretty happy with just about any ATI based card. good luck, -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 21:35:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0EF61516A for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 21:35:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sprice@hiwaay.net) Received: from localhost (sprice@localhost) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id XAA11305; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 23:35:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 23:35:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Price To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Jeff , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATI Rage Mobility In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You might also check the Linux laptop homepage. http://www.cs.utexax.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/ Somewhere on there you'll find a pre-built X server that should work on your machine from Jay Kuri . You'll also find it in the FreeBSD mailing list archives if you look hard enough. HTH. -steve On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote: # # On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, Jeff wrote: # # > I have a new laptop with the 8MB ATI Rage Mobility, which does not # > appear to be supported at the time. I was curious if anyone has gotten # > this card to work with X? # # I've found the generic ATI driver in Xfree to be pretty happy with just # about any ATI based card. # # good luck, # -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 21:41:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ucsu.Colorado.EDU (ucsu.Colorado.EDU [128.138.129.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72D61516A for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 21:41:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vinson@ucsu.Colorado.EDU) Received: from localhost (vinson@localhost) by ucsu.Colorado.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3/ITS-5.0/standard) with SMTP id WAA29932 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 22:41:03 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 22:41:03 -0600 (MDT) From: VINSON WAYNE HOWARD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: /dev/mixerstat Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This question has been plaquing me, and I don't know where to post it, but this is supposed to be for "questions," so here goes: I have OSS demo for my sound system, and it appears to be configured properly. I can cat .wavs to /dev/dsp0 or /dev/dsp1 and get a (predictably bad) output. Now, here's the problem. My system came with /dev/dsp a symbolic link to /dev/sndstat and /dev/mixer a symbolic link to /dev/mixerstat. Well, I obviously can't cat audio to the sound status device, and dev/mixerstat doesn't even exist! (MAKEDEV can't make it either). Of course all the sound programs I try to use don't work as a result of this mess. So, what should dev/mixer and dev/dsp be liks to? Thanks in advance for the help, and cc me 'cuz I'm not on the list. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 21:42:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from caligula.anu.edu.au (caligula.anu.edu.au [150.203.224.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F8E1516A for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 21:42:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rob@coombs.anu.edu.au) Received: from localhost (rob@localhost) by caligula.anu.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA29817; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:43:33 +1000 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: caligula.anu.edu.au: rob owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:43:33 +1000 (EST) From: Rob Hurle X-Sender: rob@caligula.anu.edu.au To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Ken McGlothlen Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.1 - SUN's CD-ROM Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Final chapter for those interested. The story so far: Sun's CD-ROM of StarOffice 5.1 for Linux does not install directly for FreeBSD. You need to follow Ken McGlothlen's instructions on: http://www.serv.net/~mcglk/staroffice-install.html with some mods at Stage 1, concerning Linux libraries (see earlier posting). A further mod is required to Ken's instructions for: Stage 3: Finishing the install Do not use the "soffice" script mentioned in the above document, as it will not work for the CD-ROM. You do not need it anyway, since StarOffice 5.1 only installs about 3MB in each user's home directory (not the 160MB that the script was designed to circumvent). That's it. It now works. One curiosity, upon which someone may be able to shed some light: I installed the CD-ROM on my Linux system (I can boot to either RedHat 5.1, or to FreeBSD 3.3). After I run Office5.1 on the Linux system, the characters on the terminals (ALT/CTRL F1, F2,..) are messed up - things like "$" instead of "a", and so on. The only cure is a reboot. It's appears to be a problem with X messing up the video card, or something. I've seen it before on FBSD 2.2.8 when the memory was specified incorrectly in /etc/XF86Config. No longer a problem, but I'd be interested to hear an explanation. Cheers, Rob Hurle ---------------------------------------------------------- Rob Hurle rob@coombs.anu.edu.au Connect-A Tel: +61 2 6247 2397 PO Box 13 Fax: +61 2 6248 8905 Ainslie ACT 2602 Mobile: 0417 293 603 Australia ---------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 21:46:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.volant.org (phoenix.volant.org [205.179.79.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C32151E6 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 21:46:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patl@phoenix.volant.org) Received: from asimov.phoenix.volant.org ([205.179.79.65]) by phoenix.volant.org with smtp (Exim 1.92 #8) id 11aXLd-00052E-00; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 21:46:09 -0700 Received: from localhost by asimov.phoenix.volant.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA26984; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 21:46:03 -0700 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 21:46:03 -0700 (PDT) From: patl@phoenix.volant.org Reply-To: patl@phoenix.volant.org Subject: Re: Why use tape for backups? (was: backup method reccommendation?) To: Greg Lehey Cc: patl@phoenix.volant.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19991011120854.U78191@freebie.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 10-Oct-99 at 19:39, Greg Lehey (grog@lemis.com) wrote: > On Sunday, 10 October 1999 at 19:21:12 -0700, patl@phoenix.volant.org > wrote: > On 10-Oct-99 at 18:54, Greg Lehey (grog@lemis.com) wrote: > >>> A second disk gets you only one generation of backup. And if > >>> something catastrophic happens during the backup, it may be > >>> corrupted too leaving you with -no- backup. > >> > >> Well, that can happen with tapes, too. > > > > Yes, if you are foolish enough to reuse a single backup tape instead > > of at least switching back and forth between two. (Or, better yet, > > having a real backup cycle among multiple tapes.) > > The same argumentation applies to disks. This is where the much cheaper media costs for tapes comes in. Few people will be willing to multuply their disk costs by 10 or more just to have a reasonable backup cycle. > I've used Exabyte and DDS. I've had many problems with each. This seems to be a classic case where YMMV. -Pat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 22: 6:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from posgate.acis.com.au (posgate.acis.com.au [203.14.230.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D403151E6 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 22:05:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andymac@bullseye.apana.org.au) Received: from bullseye.apana.org.au (uucp@localhost) by posgate.acis.com.au (8.9.2/8.9.2/Debian/GNU) with UUCP id OAA21096; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:59:06 +1000 (EST) Received: from bullseye.apana.org.au (central.apana.org.au [203.9.107.245]) by bullseye.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA00622; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:29:11 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andymac@bullseye.apana.org.au) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:25:24 +1000 (EST) From: Andrew MacIntyre To: Jaime Kikpole Cc: Jaye Mathisen , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Booting from RAID5 array? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-X-Sender: andymac@bullseye.apana.org.au MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm definitely no expert, but I've fiddled with SCSI occasionally. On Sat, 9 Oct 1999, Jaime Kikpole wrote: > On Sat, 9 Oct 1999, Jaye Mathisen wrote: > > The messages sound normal. > > Being SCSI won't affect DOS normal booting, the DPT supports the DOS int13 > > functions. > > If I boot from a DOS boot floppy with fdisk on it, and type fdisk, > I get the error message "No fixed disks" (or something like that). My > best thoughts are that DOS doesn't find the array at all. Or that the > BIOS (or some other part) aren't remporting its existance. Yet booting > from FreeBSD 3.3-Release disks (kern.flp and mfs.flp) allows me to install > to the disk da0 and see the dpt0 controller. Why would FreeBSD see it and > the BIOS (or other part) and MS-DOS not? The FreeBSD GENERIC kernel on the floppy (as of 3.2 for sure) has DPT support. > > When the system boots, does it find the DPT controller first or the > > Adaptec? > > The Netfinity boot messages list the built-in Adaptec SCSI > subsystem and then the DPT card. Can you disable the Adaptec boot support? Preferably disable it completely (in BIOS or system config)? It seems to me as though the Adaptec is blocking any handover of the boot process to the DPT -- Andrew I MacIntyre "These thoughts are mine alone..." E-mail: andrew.macintyre@aba.gov.au (work) | Snail: PO Box 370 andymac@bullseye.apana.org.au (play) | Belconnen ACT 2616 Fido: Andrew MacIntyre, 3:620/243.18 | Australia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 22:28: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lvdi.net (Mta.lvdi.net [216.24.138.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2892414D27 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 22:28:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from notme@lvdi.net) Received: from lvdi.net ([216.24.141.10]) by 216.24.138.2127.0.0.1 ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 22:22:12 2000 PDT Message-ID: <38017796.4F8617A@lvdi.net> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 22:37:26 -0700 From: Frankie Li X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: IA-64 optimization. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, This is just an curiosity question. Is the future versions of FreeBSD going to be optimized for Intel's IA-64 architecture? I have read that Linux has something like LinuxIA64 project. (Not confirmed...) Frankie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 22:45:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A55A14E62 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 22:45:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brooks@one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from localhost (brdavis@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA14206; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 22:45:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.ac.hmc.edu: brdavis owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 22:45:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Brooks Davis X-Sender: brdavis@orion.ac.hmc.edu To: Justin Wang Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: x windows and mouse In-Reply-To: <38003C06.A316107D@netcreate.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, Justin Wang wrote: > Does anyone know if I can somehow run X windows without a mouse. We do > not have a mouse on our servers and everytime that I try to boot into X, > it shuts down because it cannot find a mouse. Why do you want to do that? X isn't really useful without one. If you really want to make it work, I think all you need to do is get moused running without a mouse (I got it to run without complaint with "moused -P -p /dev/null -t busmouse") and then configure X to use /dev/sysmouse. I'd suggest you just buy a cheap mouse, I'm pretty sure you should be able to find something that works for under $10. -- Brooks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 10 23:11:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6225514FB1 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 23:11:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from localhost (jcw@localhost) by s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA24258; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:13:55 GMT (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: s8-37-26.student.washington.edu: jcw owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:13:54 +0000 (GMT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jcw@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Greg Johnson Cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: X11 on alpha In-Reply-To: <19991010232502.A17654@physics.clarku.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, Greg Johnson wrote: >xf86OpenConsole: Server must be running with root permissions >You should be using Xwrapper to start the server or xdm. >We strongly advise against making the server SUID root! Look at Xwrapper. This error/warning came with the latest X. You can fix it buy chmodding