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Date:      Wed, 2 Apr 2014 15:34:34 +0200
From:      "O. Hartmann" <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de>
To:        Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de>, hackers@freebsd.org, dteske@freebsd.org, Jordan Hubbard <jkh@mail.turbofuzz.com>, "current@freebsd.org" <current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Leaving the Desktop Market
Message-ID:  <20140402153434.1f55f2f3.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de>
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On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 15:10:22 -0700
Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com> wrote:


> > > No, mutt, with vim as mail composer. :)
> >
> > +1
> >
> >         matthias
> >
> >         (FreeBSD since 2.2.5 and sending this from an EeePC 900,
> >         netbook, UMTS connected, KDE4 desktop, sound, webcam, vim, mutt,
> >         sendmail, ...)
> >
>=20
> FreeBSD desktop since 3.3 (makes me a newbie!)=20

FreeBSD server and desktop since 2.0 (replaced Ultrix 4.3 system). Does it =
makes me an
"oldie"?=20

I'm stuck since with FreeBSD on private systems and a couple of years ago, =
I had no
problems even run servers based on FreeBSD for my department.

I dislike this unspecific terminus "desktop", since people seem to associate
entertainment systems with neat graphics, mouse and other interesting "huma=
n" stuff
(even audio). On the other hand, "server" seems hardcoded to unfancy 19inch=
 rack-based
plastic-metal-based clumsy and noisy high-performance systems stored in a d=
ark
air-conditioned cellar.=20

But what is with the old-fashioned terminus "workstation"? In a more scient=
ific
environment, systems with the performance needs of a "server" but with the =
exterior
habitus of a "desktop" were very often called "workstation".

Nowadays, we run a single remaining FreeBSD server and I kept my "desktop" =
system also
working on FreeBSD (11.0, recent hardware, by the way). We had to change th=
e other
"desktops" (I prefer workstation) towards Linux due to the need of OpenCL i=
n combination
with some expensive TESLA boards for numerical modelling and datellite imag=
e processing.
The software we used was mostly "home-brewn" so we didn't rely on commercia=
l Linux-only
stuff and it would have been an easy task to run the software also on FreeB=
SD based
workstations - if the GPU could be used.=20

Even the SoC platforms come with OpenCL support (also for the GPU) these da=
ys and i do
not see anything useful on FreeBSD (except POCL for CPU usage, but no GPU).


My contribution to 1st of April ...

Oliver=20



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