From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat May 23 02:23:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA26383 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sat, 23 May 1998 02:23:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA26369 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 02:23:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA08681; Sat, 23 May 1998 02:23:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Mark Diekhans cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD A Solution For Business In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 22 May 1998 20:37:13 PDT." <199805230337.UAA02883@osprey.grizzly.com> Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 02:23:32 -0700 Message-ID: <8677.895915412@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I must humbly disagree. FreeBSD is not an alternative desktop system for a > business environment. No Windozes application user is going to give up Word Why pull punches, Mark? Let's put it even more bluntly: There is absolutely no rationale for any Unix system to go after the desktop or desktop application market right today, nor has there been for some time, and anyone who thinks otherwise has either been living under a stone for the last decade or is, pardon me, a complete and total idiot. That war is lost and one might just as well counsel the Iraqi army that it'd be a really good idea to invade Kuwait again. > This begs the question, what type of server? what niche to go after? I think we can go after almost all of them. The nice thing about the marriage of a "big iron OS" with "little iron PCs", especially PCs which are now many times more powerful than departmental minis of the past, is that we really can address both ends of the server market simultaneously. We've already proven that we can handle many of the big jobs, and the cost of a PC these days would allow even the smallest corner grocery store to keep its inventory on one (and heck, they probably do!). > o A port of Netscape enterprise server would be a plus. Apache is The BSDI run works great though - we use it at Walnut Creek CDROM. > o Clustering. Built-in IP clustering would also help in promoting That'd be awful nice, yeah (he looks around pointedly at the assembled hackers, most of who back away hastily) > On promoting FreeBSD. Buying Jordan a couple of $1000 suits and a high limit > gold card and sending him out to wine and dine executives is not the answer. Not to this problem, no, though it'd certainly be the answer to a rather dull social life! I'd even settle for just one $1000 suit. ;-) > P: "No problem, we have a Pentium system in the machine room that isn't being > used for much, lets install FreeBSD on it. He can be showing the VP > in a couple of hours!" This is right on the money - I see this all the time. Stealth marketing is sometimes the very best kind. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message