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Date:      Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:53:13 -0800
From:      "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@ptavv.es.net>
To:        "Doug Reynolds" <mav@wastegate.net>
Cc:        "Brian T. Schellenberger" <bts@babbleon.org>, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>, "Rodrigo A B Freire" <bsdstuffs@brasilia.br>
Subject:   Re: Newbie: 4.4-stable, how to? - And the CVSupIT bug. 
Message-ID:  <20020116175313.891BE5D13@ptavv.es.net>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 16 Jan 2002 12:28:12 EST." <20020116172620.179CF48425@wastegate.net> 

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> From: "Doug Reynolds" <mav@wastegate.net>
> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 12:28:12 -0500
> 
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 21:02:57 -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> 
> >> you can also type "shutdown now" instead of rebooting into single user
> >> mode b4 installing the world- it saves from running fsck, mounting etc
> >> etc etc
> >
> >While you can do a great many things in FreeBSD, this one is NOT a good
> >idea. The point of the reboot is to load the new kernel and make sure
> >it will boot before installing the world. an 'fsck -p' takes about 2
> >seconds and 'mount -a -t ufs' takes a bit less.
> >
> >Once you have installed world, if the new kernel won't work you system
> >might not run properly with the old kernel and backing out the world
> >install is a major pain.
> >
> >The instructions in UPDATING were written to provide a safe, fairly
> >easy way to update a system. Think carefully of what you are doing
> >before diverging from them.
> 
> well, in that case, if it doesn't work, it'll test your backups to see
> if they'll work :)

It will also check out your adeptness in explaining to your boss why a
server was down for 3 hours while you restored the system (including
panicked investigation of whether there is a way to avoid the need to
restore, the time to load the backup tapes into the DLT's hopper,
and the time to actually restore 3 or 4 levels of dump).

Of course, if it's just a test system, you might not care. And I'm
sure you always deploy updates on a test system before trying them on
any production system. :-)

R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
E-mail: oberman@es.net			Phone: +1 510 486-8634

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