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Date:      Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:59:16 +0100
From:      Cliff Sarginson <csfbsd@raggedclown.net>
To:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: http://users.uk.freebsd.org/~juha/
Message-ID:  <20020306165915.GB4962@raggedclown.net>
In-Reply-To: <3C84CC9A.E506D746@centtech.com>
References:  <000c01c1c322$df0f22a0$0101a8c0@noc2> <20020304202541.U91555-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> <20020305015104.GA40292@core.usrlib.org> <20020305114625.GA11426@raggedclown.net> <3C84CC9A.E506D746@centtech.com>

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On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 07:48:10AM -0600, Eric Anderson wrote:
> Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> > What always bugs me is people who should know better referring to "crackers",
> > as "hackers" :)
> > 
> 
> So are you saying that crackers are the password breaking, system comprimising
> people? Or hackers?
> 
Ok, clarification time.
Hackers are the nice people who brought you FreeBSD, they may be
"crackers" in the sense of being unstable, unreasonable, anti-social,
self-opinionated, ego-maniac synchronised swimming fans. But they don't
break things for fun, profit or revenge.

Crackers are people who break things, for fun, because it's cool in some
circles, because they have nothing better to do -- there are phasers in
the ports collection, you can use them to see if your system can resist
attack, or you can just shoot at any passing target with them. These are
the JDs.
Then there are the crackers who crack systems as professionals, for
political, monetary or idealogical reasons. If they are very good they
probably never get prosecuted but end up working for the government :)

Then there is a character in Italy who syn scans me once a week or so.
He might be a cracker who is crackers as well.

If he is listening there is nothing interesting on port 512 either.

-- 
Regards
   Cliff Sarginson -- <csfbsd@raggedclown.net>

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