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Date:      Wed, 21 May 2003 22:56:55 +0300
From:      Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.org>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/release/alpha dokern.sh drivers.conf
Message-ID:  <20030521195655.GB95514@sunbay.com>
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.20030521142313.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <20030521172120.GA81292@sunbay.com> <XFMail.20030521142313.jhb@FreeBSD.org>

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On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 02:23:13PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
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> On 21-May-2003 Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> > On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 10:36:24AM -0600, Scott Long wrote:
> >> Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> >> >On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 08:28:05AM -0300, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>And I can't say I'm happy to discover I'm=20
> >> >>wrong, since my plans call for an increase of 40Kb on i386 for the=
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> >> >>loader on i386 (rather more on 64 bits archs). I counted on not bein=
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> >> >>encumbered by floppy's loader.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >FWIW, recompiling loader without FICL, saved me 100K on the kern.flp
> >> >for Alpha!  The patch that does this isn't ready for committing yet,
> >> >but I will make sure to polish it to the required shape.
> >> >
> >>=20
> >> I have plans for FICL and boot media.  I'd rather not reduce the
> >> functionality of the loader, and instead do easy things like compress
> >> the .ko files like has been suggested before.
> >>=20
> > Whatever.  Here's a working patch that recompiles boot loaders
> > without FICL for the purposes of boot floppies.
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> I think we can hold off on this change for now since things are fitting
> again.  I don't think it is wise to blow off people's concerns about
> more advanced uses of the loader on the boot floppy.
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> > I'm real sorry, but that well-known change that split release.9
> > into release.9 and release.9.alpha now gets in the way, so its
> > reversion is also included in the patch.
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> Be patient and less whiny about that please.  Beating that dead horse
> only serves to make things worse.
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Guys, what's up with you these days?  I've been told that
not having FICL in loader(8) on a boot floppy would be a
worthy change, and I have spent 2 hours today implementing
and testing this.  I couldn't do anything about this damn
release.9 split, and I've even apologized for including it
into the diff.

I never ever said in my email that I'd like to see it
committed immediately (the removal of FICL from floppy
boot loader).  Scott mentioned that he has plans wrt
FICL in loader(8), and I just sent the patch anyway
because it was already ready when he wrote this, just
to save it somewhere for safe keeping, or for academic
interest, up to you.


Cheers,
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