Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 10:47:38 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com> To: Hans Ottevanger <hans@beastielabs.net> Cc: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@FreeBSD.org>, Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r279603 - in head: bin/rcp usr.bin/rlogin usr.bin/rsh Message-ID: <B59F27E0-1624-4A56-8225-1F9E1E2EB5A3@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <54F89E97.9040203@beastielabs.net> References: <201503042201.t24M1jDG009278@svn.freebsd.org> <20150305114828.GK17947@FreeBSD.org> <20150305122103.GA90978@zxy.spb.ru> <54F89E97.9040203@beastielabs.net>
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--Apple-Mail=_C8223896-AF52-4E89-9AD7-4912CD2A65A9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Mar 5, 2015, at 10:21, Hans Ottevanger <hans@beastielabs.net> wrote: > On 03/05/15 13:21, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 02:48:29PM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: >>=20 >>> On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 10:01:45PM +0000, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >>> B> Author: bapt >>> B> Date: Wed Mar 4 22:01:44 2015 >>> B> New Revision: 279603 >>> B> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/279603 >>> B> >>> B> Log: >>> B> r* commands are not precious anymore >>> B> >>> B> Modified: >>> B> head/bin/rcp/Makefile >>> B> head/usr.bin/rlogin/Makefile >>>=20 >>> I guess when they are going to be not precious enough to be removed? = :) >>>=20 >>> In modern world of ssh and https, does any OS require them in base? >>=20 >> yes. >> Some telecom equipment require rlogin. >> _______________________________________________ >=20 > Considering that the r-commands are not particularly large and also = not really a maintenance nightmare, a would just keep them. They are = (still) more or less part of the standard Unix toolbox, as perceived by = end-users, and you had better not make life too difficult for them. The = same is true for telnet. >=20 > I see these tools in use regularly, e.g. to control measurement = equipment programmatically. Due to the price tag of those instruments, = that won't change overnight. The usage is limited to a LAN however, = nobody I know uses these tools over the public Internet anymore. >=20 > As far as I know only OpenBSD got rid of these tools up to now. Most = other Unix(-like) systems still have them. >=20 > And if they absolutely have to go, what happens to the corresponding = daemons in /usr/libexec (rshd and rlogind)? Why not just move them to ports so the people that need them can have = them=85? --Apple-Mail=_C8223896-AF52-4E89-9AD7-4912CD2A65A9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJU+KTKAAoJEMZr5QU6S73ed4AIAJBkPKAWm+yLk5dCV7cfP/hY tm1nQ9Xjy3FsJZI1fsTb8Z9e4bD9Asm3EZS+tX5MCULsQDrOZ6PWQAwt4cyvROfo UxsE1F2q/09MHnhGppQpi63nTp5wAjMwHEtY0SaMU/Pi4nHTQg4ArVJC8dL/JL4j CxbBQspW6ASZXlAys3RK3h/XQA751aTgKjsQxQDhV3DL+oB+aFA2jdMxBj1/0Uhc GpXmn8H17sGO790qZYp7yOCiAfOH3EHPVyN6yuRftb+JjyJ86zzAe901Ej4l/hZA T2kVv4t8o1kvuL2UeCO+JvXEhNATxrrVU/BiJaPOxsxqkYorrnqP/7/SIcSTZ1s= =3nyH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_C8223896-AF52-4E89-9AD7-4912CD2A65A9--
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