From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jan 20 10:51:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA17591 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 10:51:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from fog.xinside.com (fog.xinside.com [199.164.187.39]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA17586 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 10:51:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by fog.xinside.com (8.8.3/8.7.3) id LAA08902; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 11:50:50 -0700 (MST) X-Authentication-Warning: fog.xinside.com: smap set sender to using -f Received: from chon.xinside.com(199.164.187.134) by fog.xinside.com via smap (V1.3) id sma008898; Mon Jan 20 11:50:47 1997 Received: (from patrick@localhost) by chon.xinside.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id LAA07568; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 11:50:42 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 11:50:42 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199701201850.LAA07568@chon.xinside.com> From: Patrick Giagnocavo To: John Fieber , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X-inside CDE segfaulting all over the place In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: support@xinside.com Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John Fieber writes: > On 19 Jan 1997, Kim Culhan wrote: > > > I had XFree86 installed too but decided to follow Xinside's advice in the > > docs and delete all of XFree except the Xinside xserver stuff which > > was installed at /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/AcceleratedX. > > Out of curiosity, does anyone know the nature of CDE's dependancy > on the Accelerated X server? I was thinking about getting CDE, > but then noticed on the X Inside page about it it said that > Accelerated X is required. Hello John, Thank you for your interest in our AcceleratedX CDE. We don't support CDE if you run an X server locally other than AcceleratedX. This is due to the bugs in the XF86 code that we would otherwise have customers blaming us for. As well, CDE makes heavy use of the X server, so you want a fast X server. Bundled prices from resellers such as WGS (http://www.wgs.com/) usually include the AcceleratedX server at a discount. The CDE CD-ROM includes both the Linux and FreeBSD versions; the CDE install script detects which OS you are running and does the right thing. > > I'd also be interested to know how much memory (vss and typical > rss) the window manager, session manager, file manager and > friends sucks up. On a 32 megabyte 100MHz Pentium box, would > there be anything left to actually run anything without > thrashing? > > -john > CDE -will- run even in 16MB. However you will see some swapping even just switching between workspaces. The 32MB that you have should be just fine, of course more memory is always better :-) . Do remember that you are running (probably) a high-color X server + X clients + Motif libraries + Dtwm (based on mwm) + ToolTalk (RPC) daemons. Plus any other applications and daemons that you run. The only reason that I have more than 32MB RAM in my machine is due to running a 12MB Netscape and a 20MB XEmacs process at the same time ;) Cordially -- Patrick Giagnocavo - support@xinside.com Xi Graphics - Accelerated X Servers Technical Support Department