From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 10 11:12:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10960 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 11:12:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10952 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 11:12:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA08177; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 20:12:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id UAA05977; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 20:12:36 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19981010201235.49795@follo.net> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 20:12:35 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: Sue Blake Cc: Justin Clift , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, kpielorz@tdx.co.uk Subject: Re: *very* important addition to the installation instructions References: <003c01bdf366$880b5620$0100a8c0@knight> <19981009153722.39381@follo.net> <19981010005055.28099@welearn.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <19981010005055.28099@welearn.com.au>; from Sue Blake on Sat, Oct 10, 1998 at 12:50:55AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Oct 10, 1998 at 12:50:55AM +1000, Sue Blake wrote: > On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 03:37:22PM +0200, Eivind Eklund wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 07:23:50PM +1000, Justin Clift wrote: > > > Hiyas, > > > > > > I've had a significant amount of trouble installing FreeBSD onto an old 486 > > > system I'm had hanging around for ages. Finally though, I solved the > > > problem, and found out what caused it. > > > > > > I think this problem is common enough to warrant inserting this additional > > > one-sentence entry into the installation instructions... > > > > > > "If you have to boot with '-c' on a first time install, DO NOT remove the > > > Syscon Console Driver even if it displays as a conflict. This will leave > > > you with a blank screen and no installation." > > > > This problem has been resolved by at least allowing the console driver > > to conflict; > > But... the conflict is what causes some people to remove it. By _allowing_ it to conflict, it will not be shown as in conflict. > > I don't remember if we also marked it non-removable. > > I hope not. As Doug said - those people that don't want a console driver even though they have a graphics card should be sophisticated enough to know about the kernel config file. > > Better tech instead of better docs for this case - people don't always > > read docs, so if it can be resolved technically, so much the better :-) > > Fortunately we do not all hold the same views or we would have no docs > and more technical fixes than users know how to use :-) If a problem can be fully resolved technically (ie, we make it impossible to shoot oneself in the foot without this being in the way of shooting that mouse by the foot), then that is better than documenting the way to shoot your foot and saying "DON'T DO THIS". True technical fixes are IMO always better than documenting around the brokenness (and the brokenness that conflict caused was resolved years ago, so not marking it as conflicting is quite fine). Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message