Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 16:38:50 +0200 From: Miguel Mendez <flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org> To: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, oceanare@pacific.net.sg, shurd@sasktel.net Subject: Re: apple moving to x86 Message-ID: <20050609163850.07be7454.flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org> In-Reply-To: <732767b54cd8713b8b06e44ebfc9f791@FreeBSD.org> References: <20050608212440.EDE1520F01@krell.webweaver.net> <42A7AAA6.7070608@pacific.net.sg> <42A7D3DB.9080300@sasktel.net> <732767b54cd8713b8b06e44ebfc9f791@FreeBSD.org>
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--Signature=_Thu__9_Jun_2005_16_38_50_+0200_AnZsMHJ37P9od1EL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 07:27:48 -0700 John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > > The *really* hot machine is going to be the OSX ABI supported under=20 > > FreeBSD and running Aqua. I betcha this happens FAST. >=20 > I doubt it would be fast at all if it even happens. Unlike Linux,=20 > svr4, and ibcs2, OS X is not just a POSIXish UNIX kernel. It also=20 > includes mach so there would have to be a lot of emulation to support=20 > that. OS X also tends to define its interface not at the kernel=20 > syscall level but at the library API level (from what I have heard),=20 > which means that it might require having custom versions of the base=20 > system frameworks ala Wine which would be an enormous amount of work. The NetBSD people are working on it: http://hcpnet.free.fr/applebsd.html Cheers, --=20 Miguel Mendez <flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org> http://www.energyhq.es.eu.org PGP Key: 0xDC8514F1 --Signature=_Thu__9_Jun_2005_16_38_50_+0200_AnZsMHJ37P9od1EL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCqFR9nLctrNyFFPERAufxAKDOEjcRkEpL2M7u+iUYmLfFvdI9TgCguqYI bTzH0dLUM/SkqmEmPcrXGn8= =dERZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Thu__9_Jun_2005_16_38_50_+0200_AnZsMHJ37P9od1EL--
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