From owner-dev-commits-ports-all@freebsd.org Thu Jun 3 13:09:49 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: dev-commits-ports-all@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E35E63920A; Thu, 3 Jun 2021 13:09:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@tu-dortmund.de) Received: from unimail.uni-dortmund.de (mx1.hrz.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.128.51]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "unimail.tu-dortmund.de", Issuer "DFN-Verein Global Issuing CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FwmT86kYJz3HRP; Thu, 3 Jun 2021 13:09:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@tu-dortmund.de) Received: from mandree.no-ip.org (p4fe5242b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.229.36.43]) (authenticated bits=0) by unimail.uni-dortmund.de (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 153D9jVf028073 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 3 Jun 2021 15:09:46 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=tu-dortmund.de; s=unimail; t=1622725786; bh=LykrlPoyg/s3xppVYEs/hn1PgvMPymo0xqbjMhLnFzk=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=ZfoWlJTlNSpvDoODz0GNYxs5IpuRFI4bH5YNo2KUXU2qF1JZhCTEs58Cv8gqOtbr3 TV8rMWSYD7rv8Q///TjGH6DHF6wtwy+EhuhBbIbMMVMXePfy8du0Dlp/IywUz6ZQqo 3qMdWAP9LUGuixuMv9Dw0y4S1f5pwcAQI7aYatcs= Received: from ryzen.an3e.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ryzen.an3e.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C17891203CF; Thu, 3 Jun 2021 15:09:45 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Rule/Change-Update-Newsletter? (was: Re: Replacing USE_GCC=any and the danfe@ filter (was: svn commit: r568012 - head/net/tightvnc)) To: Torsten Zuehlsdorff , Mathieu Arnold Cc: ports-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-ports-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org References: <20210603063235.676vy42y56fzvuu5@aching.in.mat.cc> <64998e65-5200-ba36-eb61-f54b26a6e2a8@toco-domains.de> <0506d5b7-3a2e-89eb-8e72-238b7a3f3d4d@toco-domains.de> <20210603101652.v2nk3kuvbayokd2g@aching.in.mat.cc> <6642da17-a2da-d3d0-444f-d761f2a56840@toco-domains.de> From: Matthias Andree Message-ID: <354822a0-a1d4-a4c6-2dbb-de05828ceade@tu-dortmund.de> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 15:09:45 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6642da17-a2da-d3d0-444f-d761f2a56840@toco-domains.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FwmT86kYJz3HRP X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: dev-commits-ports-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Commit messages for all branches of the ports repository List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2021 13:09:49 -0000 Am 03.06.21 um 12:40 schrieb Torsten Zuehlsdorff: > Without any judgment of this rule (here): i really have no idea that: > 1) We have such a new hook > 2) We changed the New port rule > > That raises to issues directly: > 1) I am annoyed that this was not discussed (maybe in a way i noticed?) > 2) I am annoyed that this change was not made clear to the committer > involved. > > To address point 2: can we at least aim for a Newsletter (or a mail to > ports-committer@) when we do such think. I really do NOT scan the > porter-handbook for changes on a regular base (while i could also NOT > find the change there). It would be very nice if we can be up to date to > all relevant changes without reading through dozens of mailinglists or > thousands of commit messages. Or has the E_NOTIME reason of most > developer changed to E_HAVETIME? It it really a terrible idea to inform > the team? Such information would belong into ports/CHANGES, but we've had many changes that are not documented there.