Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 23:45:05 -0600 From: "Stephen Hurd" <deuce@lordlegacy.org> To: "Technical Information" <tech_info@threespace.com>, "FreeBSD Chat" <chat@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: Helping victims of terror Message-ID: <NFBBJPHLGLNJEEECOCHAGEDNCEAA.deuce@lordlegacy.org> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010921173959.02994178@threespace.com>
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> Believe me, after a tragedy of the magnitude that occurred on Tuesday, > we're all armchair politicians or generals or analysts or whatever. I have > yet to meet the person that has no opinions on the events, so you're > certainly no less entitled to your own. /me leans over his armchair to grab his pipe, stokes it up nicely and proceeds... :-) > Killing civilians is a terrible thing to do, but if Country A kills the > civilians of Country B, then I would think Country B were within it's > rights to inflict similar damage/pain upon Country A. An unprovoked attack > is one thing, but retribution is an effective form of defense. In my mind, the most important bit of this is that in this case, Country A hasn't DONE anything. Afghanistan has NOT attacked the United States yet the United States wants retribution against Afghanistan because there is a person there who has been grated asylum that the US government THINKS organised the attack. If the US granted asylum to someone say (totally random example) from the IRA, and the British said "Hand him over, or we'll bomb the hell out of you. You're harbouring him, so that makes you responsible for all he has done... including this stuff that we don't have any hard evidence that he actually did." the entire US public would be outraged, refuse to hand the refugee over and quite possibly be happy to go to war over it KNOWING they were right. Yet this is the position that the US has put the Afghanistan government into. They have not offered convincing evidence that Bin Ladden is responsible for this attack. With the evidence that has been made public, they would NOT get a conviction in a court of law. Doubtless they know something we don't, but the entire US piblic is going along with this WITHOUT being offered the proof. So now the United States uses terrorist tactics itself "We want Bin Ladden or we will start killing people who have had no part of the attack, did not condone the attack, and have publicly expressed their outrage at the attack... and keep it up until you hand him over." This sounds a lot like the traditional hostage situation... only now, the United States is holding an ENTIRE COUNTRY hostage. That is the bit that scares me. If the United States said "We are going to hunt all terrorists down no matter where they hide - that's why we have special forces and are justifiably pround of our ability to effect pinpoint strikes with massive firepower." I would be about 87% behind them. That's not what they're saying though. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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