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Date:      Sun, 27 May 2001 23:23:18 +0300 (EEST)
From:      Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi>
To:        Bill Fumerola <billf@mu.org>
Cc:        <freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: kern/27661: >1000 ipfw rules and heavy traffic crash the system
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.33.0105272307350.25129-100000@netcore.fi>
In-Reply-To: <20010527135954.F37979@elvis.mu.org>

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On Sun, 27 May 2001, Bill Fumerola wrote:
> On Sat, May 26, 2001 at 11:20:02PM -0700, Pekka Savola wrote:
>
> > Subject: Re: kern/27661: >1000 ipfw rules and heavy traffic crash the system
>
> I've put 3000 non-matching (and counting+matching) rules on systems
> while pushing max traffic before without locking up.

I'm sure you're talking about serious traffic here, countable in
dozens of megabits, as this appears to be a requirement in this scenario.

> Please compile a non-SMP kernel and see if you have better luck.
>
> Also, try and push the traffic over lo0 and see if that makes a
> difference.

This may not have been the problem; when debugging this, I had found out
the problem with ipfw traffic limiting (hard freezing) too (see the 5 May
thread on -stable mentioned in previous mail).  The freezing continued
without SMP on.  For the death of me I can't remember whether it was
traffic limiter or huge number of rules that caused the crashes on UP
system (at that time I didn't know _what_ was causing them anyway).

Unfortunately, this is a production system, and there's pretty little
amount of testing I can do; especially as soft freezes by >1000 rules seem
to create a lot of FS inconsistancies as a byproduct when booting,
always requiring rather painful restoration of some files from the
backups.

-- 
Pekka Savola                 "Tell me of difficulties surmounted,
Netcore Oy                   not those you stumble over and fall"
Systems. Networks. Security.  -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords



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