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Date:      Wed, 8 May 2019 10:31:48 -0400
From:      Paul Mather <paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu>
To:        Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net>
Cc:        freebsd-stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: ZFS...
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On May 8, 2019, at 9:59 AM, Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net> wrote:

> Paul Mather wrote:
>>> due to lack of space.  Interestingly have had another drive die in the  
>>> array - and it doesn't just have one or two sectors down it has a *lot*  
>>> - which was not noticed by the original machine - I moved the drive to  
>>> a byte copier which is where it's reporting 100's of sectors damaged...  
>>> could this be compounded by zfs/mfi driver/hba not picking up errors  
>>> like it should?
>>
>>
>> Did you have regular pool scrubs enabled?  It would have picked up  
>> silent data corruption like this.  It does for me.
> Yes, every month (once a month because, (1) the data doesn't change much  
> (new data is added, old it not touched), and (2) because to complete it  
> took 2 weeks.)


Do you also run sysutils/smartmontools to monitor S.M.A.R.T. attributes?   
Although imperfect, it can sometimes signal trouble brewing with a drive  
(e.g., increasing Reallocated_Sector_Ct and Current_Pending_Sector counts)  
that can lead to proactive remediation before catastrophe strikes.

Unless you have been gathering periodic drive metrics, you have no way of  
knowing whether these hundreds of bad sectors have happened suddenly or  
slowly over a period of time.

Cheers,

Paul.



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