From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sat Jan 26 20:00:22 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C3214AC1CB for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 20:00:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karl@denninger.net) Received: from colo1.denninger.net (colo1.denninger.net [104.236.120.189]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 893036AF41 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 20:00:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karl@denninger.net) Received: from denninger.net (ip68-1-57-197.pn.at.cox.net [68.1.57.197]) by colo1.denninger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3DC211080 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 15:00:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.10.23] (D13.Denninger.Net [192.168.10.23]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by denninger.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A2167A44E2 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 14:00:19 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Not sure if this is the correct place.... (laptop, dual-boot EFI) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <7391812a-a2ad-874a-80c9-5a871a29f680@denninger.net> From: Karl Denninger Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=karl@denninger.net; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBFIX1zsBEADRcJfsQUl9oFeoMfLPJ1kql+3sIaYx0MfJAUhV9LnbWxr0fsWCskM1O4cV tHm5dqPkuPM4Ztc0jLotD1i9ubWvCHOlkLGxFOL+pFbjA+XZ7VKsC/xWmhMwJ3cM8HavK2OV SzEWQ/AEYtMi04IzGSwsxh/5/5R0mPHrsIomV5SbuiI0vjLuDj7fo6146AABI1ULzge4hBYW i/SHrqUrLORmUNBs6bxek79/B0Dzk5cIktD3LOfbT9EAa5J/osVkstMBhToJgQttaMIGv8SG CzpR/HwEokE+7DP+k2mLHnLj6H3kfugOF9pJH8Za4yFmw//s9cPXV8WwtZ2SKfVzn1unpKqf wmJ1PwJoom/d4fGvQDkgkGKRa6RGC6tPmXnqnx+YX4iCOdFfbP8L9rmk2sewDDVzHDU3I3ZZ 8hFIjMYM/QXXYszRatK0LCV0QPZuF7LCf4uQVKw1/oyJInsnH7+6a3c0h21x+CmSja9QJ+y0 yzgEN/nM89d6YTakfR+1xkYgodVmMy/bS8kmXbUUZG/CyeqCqc95RUySjKT2ECrf9GhhoQkl +D8n2MsrAUSMGB4GQSN+TIq9OBTpNuvATGSRuF9wnQcs1iSry+JNCpfRTyWp83uCNApe6oHU EET4Et6KDO3AvjvBMAX0TInTRGW2SQlJMuFKpc7Dg7tHK8zzqQARAQABtCNLYXJsIERlbm5p bmdlciA8a2FybEBkZW5uaW5nZXIubmV0PokCPAQTAQIAJgUCUhfXOwIbIwUJCWYBgAYLCQgH AwIEFQIIAwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEG6/sivc5s0PLxQP/i6x/QFx9G4Cw7C+LthhLXIm7NSH AtNbz2UjySEx2qkoQQjtsK6mcpEEaky4ky6t8gz0/SifIfJmSmyAx0UhUQ0WBv1vAXwtNrQQ jJd9Bj6l4c2083WaXyHPjt2u2Na6YFowyb4SaQb83hu/Zs25vkPQYJVVE0JX409MFVPUa6E3 zFbd1OTr3T4yNUy4gNeQZfzDqDS8slbIks2sXeoJrZ6qqXVI0ionoivOlaN4T6Q0UYyXtigj dQvvhMt0aNowKFjRqrmSDRpdz+o6yg7Mp7qEZ1V6EZk8KqQTH6htpCTQ8i79ttK4LG6bstSF Re6Fwq52nbrcANrcdmtZXqjo+SGbUqJ8b1ggrxAsJ5MEhRh2peKrCgI/TjQo+ZxfnqEoR4AI 46Cyiz+/lcVvlvmf2iPifS3EEdaH3Itfwt7MxFm6mQORYs6skHDw3tOYB2/AdCW6eRVYs2hB RMAG4uwApZfZDKgRoE95PJmQjeTBiGmRPcsQZtNESe7I7EjHtCDLwtJqvD4HkDDQwpzreT6W XkyIJ7ns7zDfA1E+AQhFR6rsTFGgQZRZKsVeov3SbhYKkCnVDCvb/PKQCAGkSZM9SvYG5Yax 8CMry3AefKktf9fqBFg8pWqtVxDwJr56dhi0GHXRu3jVI995rMGo1fLUG5fSxiZ8L5sAtokh 9WFmQpyl Message-ID: <7a61c927-796d-ea1f-8dce-37e82fb6d646@denninger.net> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 14:00:18 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-512; boundary="------------ms010306020302040608060000" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 893036AF41 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.19 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: px.denninger.net]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.90)[-0.904,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.08)[ip: (-9.86), ipnet: 104.236.64.0/18(-3.23), asn: 14061(2.76), country: US(-0.08)]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14061, ipnet:104.236.64.0/18, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[197.57.1.68.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; SIGNED_SMIME(-2.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,multipart/alternative,text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-stable@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[denninger.net]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[] X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 20:00:22 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010306020302040608060000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Further question....=C2=A0 does boot1.efi (which I assume has to be place= d on the EFI partition and then something like rEFInd can select it) know how to handle a geli-encrypted primary partition (e.g. for root/boot so I don't need an unencrypted /boot partition), and if so how do I tell it that's the case and to prompt for the password? (If not I know how to set up for geli-encryption using a non-encrypted /boot partition, but my understanding is that for 12 the loader was taught how to handle geli internally and thus you can now install 12 -- at least for ZFS -- with encryption on root.=C2=A0 However, that wipes th= e disk if you try to select it in the installer, so that's no good -- and besides, on a laptop zfs is overkill.) Thanks! On 1/26/2019 08:08, Kamila Sou=C4=8Dkov=C3=A1 wrote: > I'm just booting the installer, going to do this on my X1 Carbon (5th g= en), > and I'm planning to use the efibootmgr entry first (which is sufficient= for > booting), and later I might add rEFInd if I feel like it. I'll be posti= ng > my steps online, I can post the link once it's out there if you're > interested. > > I'm very curious about HW support on the 6th gen Carbon, it'd be great = to > hear how it goes. > > Have fun! > > Kamila > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2019, 06:54 Kyle Evans, wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 6:30 PM Jonathan Chen wrote= : >>> On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 13:00, Karl Denninger wro= te: >>> [...] >>>> I'd like to repartition it to be able to dual boot it much as I do w= ith >>>> my X220 (I wish I could ditch Windows entirely, but that is just not= >>>> going to happen), but I'm not sure how to accomplish that in the EFI= >>>> world -- or if it reasonably CAN be done in the EFI world. Fortunat= ely >>>> the BIOS has an option to turn off secure boot (which I surmise from= >>>> reading the Wiki FreeBSD doesn't yet support) but I still need a mea= ns >>>> to select from some reasonably-friendly way *what* to boot. >>> The EFI partition is just a MS-DOS partition, and most EFI aware BIOS= >>> will (by default) load /EFI/Boot/boot64.efi when starting up. On my >>> Dell Inspiron 17, I created /EFI/FreeBSD and copied FreeBSD's >>> /boot/loader.efi to /EFI/FreeBSD/boot64.efi. My laptop's BIOS setup >>> allowed me to specify a boot-entry to for \EFI\FreeBSD\boot64.efi. On= >>> a cold start, I have to be quick to hit the F12 key, which then allow= s >>> me to specify whether to boot Windows or FreeBSD. I'm not sure how >>> Lenovo's BIOS setup works, but I'm pretty sure that it should have >>> something similar. >>> >> Adding a boot-entry can also be accomplished with efibootmgr. This is >> effectively what the installer in -CURRENT does, copying loader to >> \EFI\FreeBSD on the ESP and using efibootmgr to insert a "FreeBSD" >> entry for that loader and activating it. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" --=20 Karl Denninger karl@denninger.net /The Market Ticker/ /[S/MIME encrypted email preferred]/ --------------ms010306020302040608060000 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature 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