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Date:      Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:40:43 +0930
From:      Matthew Thyer <thyerm@camtech.net.au>
To:        Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
Cc:        Matthew Thyer <Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au>, Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>, Jonathan Lemon <jlemon@americantv.com>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up)
Message-ID:  <359640D3.9C7B892E@camtech.net.au>
References:  <199806280326.UAA16965@antipodes.cdrom.com>

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First up I should say I've had zero sleep last night.

I apologise to you Mike for my over-reaction.   It's just that some of
your comments grated a bit and I replied too quickly.

What set me off was the fact that we are about to lose functionality
which has always worked in the past.

I now see why "options VM86" has to become mandatory if it will give us
the benefits you have listed.  I'm just trying to point out the functionality
that will be lost when this happens.

On the balance it is well worth losing for what we gain.

Not being in core I do not have the inside information but now you have
explained it I and the rest of the list will know why "options VM86" is
to become mandatory.

I have now had it pointed out to me that booting clean from a FreeBSD
boot disk is well documented as the best way and that booting from DOS
may work if you're lucky.  So the documentation is there.  I'm just
pissed about losing functionality as I've said before.

Lots of people cannot boot from CDROM and I'd like to think people are
still going to run FreeBSD on 'old' Pentium 166 or 200 machines that
are now too slow for Microsoft bloat ware.

As someone has said maybe fbsdboot.exe should be retired.

Sorry again.  My lack of sleep and the lost functionality got to me.

> 
> --
> \\  Sometimes you're ahead,       \\  Mike Smith
> \\  sometimes you're behind.      \\  mike@smith.net.au
> \\  The race is long, and in the  \\  msmith@freebsd.org
> \\  end it's only with yourself.  \\  msmith@cdrom.com

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quantities, then it may simply be a fluctuation of the vacuum of some
larger space in which our Universe is imbedded. In answer to the
question of why it happened, I offer the modest proposal that our
Universe is simply one of those things which happen from time to time."
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