From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 06:11:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19077 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 06:11:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from goliath.camtech.net.au (goliath.camtech.net.au [203.5.73.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA19061 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 06:11:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thyerm@camtech.net.au) Received: from camtech.net.au (dialup-ad-14-23.camtech.net.au [203.55.242.151]) by goliath.camtech.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id WAA06241; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:37:32 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <359640D3.9C7B892E@camtech.net.au> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:40:43 +0930 From: Matthew Thyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Smith CC: Matthew Thyer , Terry Lambert , Jonathan Lemon , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) References: <199806280326.UAA16965@antipodes.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG First up I should say I've had zero sleep last night. I apologise to you Mike for my over-reaction. It's just that some of your comments grated a bit and I replied too quickly. What set me off was the fact that we are about to lose functionality which has always worked in the past. I now see why "options VM86" has to become mandatory if it will give us the benefits you have listed. I'm just trying to point out the functionality that will be lost when this happens. On the balance it is well worth losing for what we gain. Not being in core I do not have the inside information but now you have explained it I and the rest of the list will know why "options VM86" is to become mandatory. I have now had it pointed out to me that booting clean from a FreeBSD boot disk is well documented as the best way and that booting from DOS may work if you're lucky. So the documentation is there. I'm just pissed about losing functionality as I've said before. Lots of people cannot boot from CDROM and I'd like to think people are still going to run FreeBSD on 'old' Pentium 166 or 200 machines that are now too slow for Microsoft bloat ware. As someone has said maybe fbsdboot.exe should be retired. Sorry again. My lack of sleep and the lost functionality got to me. > > -- > \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith > \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au > \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com -- /=====================================================================\ |Work: Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au | Home: thyerm@camtech.net.au| \=====================================================================/ "If it is true that our Universe has a zero net value for all conserved quantities, then it may simply be a fluctuation of the vacuum of some larger space in which our Universe is imbedded. In answer to the question of why it happened, I offer the modest proposal that our Universe is simply one of those things which happen from time to time." E. P. Tryon from "Nature" Vol.246 Dec.14, 1973 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message