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Date:      Sun, 10 Dec 2017 16:29:58 -0500
From:      Paul Pathiakis <>
To:        Baho Utot <>,
Subject:   Re: Boot issue after upgrade
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On 12/10/2017 3:47 PM, Baho Utot wrote:
> On 12/10/2017 2:52 PM, Robert Fitzpatrick via freebsd-questions wrote:
>> Since I upgraded a server from FreeBSD 10.1 to 10.4, it no longer 
>> boots to the standard BSD menu. Instead, it kicks me to an OK prompt 
>> where I have to 'set currdev=disk0s1a', then boot. How can I get my 
>> automatic boot menu back?
> And another bites the dust.....
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I'm sorry, I've been watching your posts since they started.  I would 
suggest you go back to the Linux world and stay there. Having a computer 
science degree and understanding things at the bit level, as well as 
being a Sr. Sysadmin for over 25 years, quite frankly, a lot of the 
points you bring up are dramatically untrue.  I find your postings to be 
nothing more than trolling and bashing.

If you choose to be constructive with solutions, I'm fine with that.  If 
you choose to be CONSTRUCTIVELY critical, I'm fine with that.  As for 
what the user base is, and the all the other things, including the 
above, you are grossly misinformed.

I make my salary as a consultant on RHEL and other Linux variants.  
Thank <deity> the Linux kernel and its supporting userland is so 
unstable and has so many CVEs.  It's going to keep me employed right 
through until retirement.  If they were to fix everything (package 
dependencies, etc), it would be so much easier to administer by all 
these clownish "I got me a certification" people.

Darwin OS from Apple is 90% FreeBSD.  Apple is, by far, the largest 
shipper of *nix systems in the world.  Netflix... FreeBSD.  Do some 
research, FreeBSD is in more products than you imagine and outstrips the 
attempted in-roads by Linux products.... (all 250+ variant OS's based on 
the Linux kernel)

I used to be from the era of Slackware.... The stability was terrible.  
The Linux following continued to grow due to many who weren't trained in 
proper software process and procedure wanting to be 'Tech!  Me, too'.  
'Lookee, I writes a program'.  To this day, I laugh at the fact that 
RHEL is 3-4 versions behind CentOS as, due to requiring stability, they 
can only move forward once it is at the stability level necessary of a 
true commercial product... aka pseudo-bulletproof... but still not at 
the quality of FreeBSD that can release a x.0 release and have it run 
flawlessly.  Also, the CVEs reported over a release lifetime is less 
than 10% of those of just the Linux kernel versus and ENTIRE OS that 
FreeBSD is, kernel and userland.

The Linux kernel and it's userland just don't stack up.  I have non-tech 
people using TrueOS on their desks and small business using FreeBSD for 
their file servers.  They can't believe they run for a year before I do 
a simple 30 minute upgrade to the next rev... and it goes, again, 

I believe why people are banning you from lists (if they, indeed, are, 
which thid community is not in the habit of doing), is due to the toxic 
attitude you have and pointing out non-issues that are encountered by 
user error.  FreeBSD is rock solid, stable.  Sir, I find you uninformed 
and pointing at non-issues.  This list is here to help people with 
issues they encounter.  Please stop detracting from that purpose.  The 
list is here to help persons with their issues, not listen to trolling 
rants.  If you have a question, as per the title of the list, post it 
and it will be answered by a courteous, knowledgeable person.  (Since 
1998, I have seen little in the way of non-courteous, egotistical, 
clueless responses from this community - The same cannot be said of the 
times I have to use Linux community lists.)

Please, have a good day, but also, stop pointing at non-issues and 
saying "See, lookee!".  Anyone can break anything.  Anyone, uninformed, 
who wants to ramp fast and not read documentation, will have issues with 
anything.  This is akin to not reading the directions on how to put 
something from IKEA together.  Lack of reading directions usually leads 
to this list.


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