From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 10 21:30:09 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02160E9D3C3 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 21:30:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pathiaki2@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic311-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (sonic311-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [66.163.188.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8D4163CD6 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 21:30:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pathiaki2@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: 7MtAxM8VM1kTUBjPIKA43jYyNpjNInHHMrmlq6hUB_S3drmTBFd6AsZwAzh9f9m 467F_Or9eWCk7rbiAwXD7urc679HsjDWrLJPJTRYSQbpnxtV1PD4mUpkqYp_udv1KLUi_0iQT0mp dEsZfwBYcKHOQ2ssjoKv3rEqMZUUcMeN_QotTvI0YGIOxmXBbuJ60xei7oIKyznGfpMQ4CQofJm3 mg.LTDwD3LwDQwzucdiReQv5EN4Bwtd9ICEDVJRsebq02NC28HyabifioViCoYfbv4PyvTrcukf6 ta0kqgcKFlfH9JsUSP4JB8VRdrFGt4IjYa3Rxng0x2DQA9fYs8ytHFXl92FlG4QAbl1BP9Q4sPC2 WlRv8Vz_nBEv_rTAnfgXiDaUiDfKxXY3twd2yIKIf3cvgCoZiQfQ1HiWSt5kRwexHSpgo_cAdI5u DE8qBhx3.hfI7TuYeLAGTPwThmYQnU0Hu8YrACVjTCGjYysKzYmAW7pK.HYSCNxkagfbN89LRJ5p hpnBvFLm9UH2_Fg-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic311.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 21:30:02 +0000 Received: from smtp226.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (EHLO [192.168.0.203]) ([10.218.253.215]) by smtp404.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (JAMES SMTP Server ) with ESMTPA ID -714381238; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 21:30:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Boot issue after upgrade To: Baho Utot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5A2D9082.9060706@webtent.org> From: Paul Pathiakis Message-ID: <55ae026c-8159-74a0-240c-351177964063@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 16:29:58 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: AVG (VPS 171210-2, 12/10/2017), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 21:30:09 -0000 On 12/10/2017 3:47 PM, Baho Utot wrote: > > > On 12/10/2017 2:52 PM, Robert Fitzpatrick via freebsd-questions wrote: >> Since I upgraded a server from FreeBSD 10.1 to 10.4, it no longer >> boots to the standard BSD menu. Instead, it kicks me to an OK prompt >> where I have to 'set currdev=disk0s1a', then boot. How can I get my >> automatic boot menu back? >> > > And another bites the dust..... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hi, I'm sorry, I've been watching your posts since they started.  I would suggest you go back to the Linux world and stay there. Having a computer science degree and understanding things at the bit level, as well as being a Sr. Sysadmin for over 25 years, quite frankly, a lot of the points you bring up are dramatically untrue.  I find your postings to be nothing more than trolling and bashing. If you choose to be constructive with solutions, I'm fine with that.  If you choose to be CONSTRUCTIVELY critical, I'm fine with that.  As for what the user base is, and the all the other things, including the above, you are grossly misinformed. I make my salary as a consultant on RHEL and other Linux variants.  Thank the Linux kernel and its supporting userland is so unstable and has so many CVEs.  It's going to keep me employed right through until retirement.  If they were to fix everything (package dependencies, etc), it would be so much easier to administer by all these clownish "I got me a certification" people. Darwin OS from Apple is 90% FreeBSD.  Apple is, by far, the largest shipper of *nix systems in the world.  Netflix... FreeBSD.  Do some research, FreeBSD is in more products than you imagine and outstrips the attempted in-roads by Linux products.... (all 250+ variant OS's based on the Linux kernel) I used to be from the era of Slackware.... The stability was terrible.  The Linux following continued to grow due to many who weren't trained in proper software process and procedure wanting to be 'Tech!  Me, too'.  'Lookee, I writes a program'.  To this day, I laugh at the fact that RHEL is 3-4 versions behind CentOS as, due to requiring stability, they can only move forward once it is at the stability level necessary of a true commercial product... aka pseudo-bulletproof... but still not at the quality of FreeBSD that can release a x.0 release and have it run flawlessly.  Also, the CVEs reported over a release lifetime is less than 10% of those of just the Linux kernel versus and ENTIRE OS that FreeBSD is, kernel and userland. The Linux kernel and it's userland just don't stack up.  I have non-tech people using TrueOS on their desks and small business using FreeBSD for their file servers.  They can't believe they run for a year before I do a simple 30 minute upgrade to the next rev... and it goes, again, flawlessly. I believe why people are banning you from lists (if they, indeed, are, which thid community is not in the habit of doing), is due to the toxic attitude you have and pointing out non-issues that are encountered by user error.  FreeBSD is rock solid, stable.  Sir, I find you uninformed and pointing at non-issues.  This list is here to help people with issues they encounter.  Please stop detracting from that purpose.  The list is here to help persons with their issues, not listen to trolling rants.  If you have a question, as per the title of the list, post it and it will be answered by a courteous, knowledgeable person.  (Since 1998, I have seen little in the way of non-courteous, egotistical, clueless responses from this community - The same cannot be said of the times I have to use Linux community lists.) Please, have a good day, but also, stop pointing at non-issues and saying "See, lookee!".  Anyone can break anything.  Anyone, uninformed, who wants to ramp fast and not read documentation, will have issues with anything.  This is akin to not reading the directions on how to put something from IKEA together.  Lack of reading directions usually leads to this list. P. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com