From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jul 16 12:46:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA03481 for chat-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 12:46:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news.netvoyage.net (news.netvoyage.net [205.162.154.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA03457 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 12:46:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from foo.netvoyage.net (foo@localhost) by news.netvoyage.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with UUCP id MAA29637; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 12:42:31 -0700 Received: from localhost (bkogawa@localhost) by foo.netvoyage.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA12388; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 12:44:36 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: foo.netvoyage.net: bkogawa owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 12:44:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "Bryan K. Ogawa" To: Greg Lehey cc: Branson Matheson , FreeBSD Chat Subject: Re: FreeBSD keyboard In-Reply-To: <199607161030.MAA17298@allegro.lemis.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Greg Lehey wrote: > Branson Matheson writes: [...] > >| ---- The Wall ---- > >| > >| The ctrl key belongs in the bottom left corner .. next to alt and > >| under shift! > >| > >| Just like the Esc belongs in the top left and tilde under it and > >| backspace on the right hand side of the '=/+' key! > >| > >| -- End of The Wall -- > > > Is this a UNIX wall? Mine says "FreeBSD: Turning PC's into > Workstations". > > It's been a long time since I've seen a UNIX user advocate this > layout. Why? Personally, I like the Control key under the left-shift key. I've been exposed to the "to the right of A" layout for many years, so I'm not rabid about it. The trick is to use the side of the palm to hold down control, instead of any finger. This way, you can keep your hands on home row while holding down control. Of course, this may be bad for your hand posture. Alt is held down by the left thumb (which really isn't doing anything anyway). My personal peeve is the location of the | key. Considering how often it's used in Unix, (and, even how often its counterpart, \, is used in DOS), it has a really horrible position on too many keyboards. I like the position directly above enter. The worst postions seem to come from Focus keyboards, which is a shame since they have a very nice feel (e.g. to the RIGHT of the right shift key (!)). On the subject of feel--does anyone know of some good keyboards (very high quality membrane or click)? I'm using a Fujitsu 4725, which is a Win95 keyboard (click, but in typing with it for a few weeks, a little too stiff in the keys). Pretty nice, and it has the | in the right place. The worse part (other than my constant minor annoyance at the feel) is that the caps lock, etc. lights are embedded in the keys. bryan > > Greg > >