From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 8 15:50:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 141CA741; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 15:50:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.iXsystems.com (mail.ixsystems.com [12.229.62.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.ixsystems.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E448021F; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 15:50:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (mail.ixsystems.com [10.2.55.1]) by mail.iXsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C178082D; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 08:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.iXsystems.com ([10.2.55.1]) by localhost (mail.ixsystems.com [10.2.55.1]) (maiad, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15519-06; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 08:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.20.30.117] (125.sub-70-197-4.myvzw.com [70.197.4.125]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.iXsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CF03A807EA; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 08:50:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ixsystems.com; s=newknight0; t=1412783426; bh=TIShFg8jfG1jItLcE/uAdEwKn36sFc/R52lG2KZUmgM=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=gNldonAHgMYP/AwIJHCB3kTcNtcxOyIZWpW3C6SaQ2RHyM1XPI7LDr4zDJBgDTZQX rTcdJBjqHeUrmy1OlvDCUxIxvi2WRu5l4h8mtYP6VhpYtSod7qShFTv8RcIouB/lW/ OIViaciR9ltiVcWAjqzP7ZEBKZTz8Ga6Hlm8UoGg= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.0 \(1990.1\)) Subject: Re: ZFS API From: Jordan Hubbard In-Reply-To: <3A396786-4010-4934-AA12-9DBC87392D99@sarenet.es> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 08:50:23 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8F48CD13-B7BD-4261-8CE4-BBB59CAC473C@ixsystems.com> References: <1422065A4E115F409E22C1EC9EDAFBA46044E4@sofdc01exc02.postbank.bg> <1422065A4E115F409E22C1EC9EDAFBA4604B35@sofdc01exc02.postbank.bg> <757ED2D6-0585-43C1-B827-FB349045246A@pingpong.net> <1422065A4E115F409E22C1EC9EDAFBA4604B8D@sofdc01exc02.postbank.bg> <5433F7B5.8090604@bytecamp.net> <7BD1DA91-6667-4183-B4C2-297FA1602703@sarenet.es> <20141008150054.GD25906@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> <3A396786-4010-4934-AA12-9DBC87392D99@sarenet.es> To: Borja Marcos X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1990.1) Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, Brooks Davis X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2014 15:50:38 -0000 > On Oct 8, 2014, at 8:04 AM, Borja Marcos wrote: >=20 > I know, again it's not exactly the optimal way to do it. Call me = old-fashioned :) I can=E2=80=99t help but feel that if even half the energy that has gone = into this discussion were instead directed towards actually *addressing = the problem*, the problem would be well on its way towards being = addressed right now. In other words, the code does not care about this philosophical = discussion. If someone wants to have a robust, well-supported API for = ZFS, then they (the person who wants it, ideally, since motivation is = 9/10ths of the battle) should work on making that happen. The OpenZFS project has been pretty good about accepting contributions. = Its biggest challenge is simply that there aren=E2=80=99t enough people = volunteering to contribute. My sensors detect a potential volunteer. :) - Jordan