From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 12 05:21:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D541065694 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:21:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jh@sandstorm.net) Received: from sirocco.sandstorm.net (sirocco.sandstorm.net [69.33.111.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95BD68FC29 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:21:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from h17.glup.org (207-172-212-135.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com [207.172.212.135]) (authenticated bits=0) by sirocco.sandstorm.net (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n9C5LYDp000780 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:21:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jh@sandstorm.net) Message-ID: <4AD2BCD9.2090904@sandstorm.net> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:21:29 -0400 From: john hood User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christian Schmidt References: <309b65830910060054g16a099abxb8e203a46aa9e89c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <309b65830910060054g16a099abxb8e203a46aa9e89c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on sirocco.sandstorm.net X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:10:13 +0000 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Boot issues with a Dell Inspiron 530 and 8.0 RC1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:21:38 -0000 Christian Schmidt wrote: > Hello list, > > I am seeing a strange issue with my Dell Inspiron 530 with 8.0 RC1-p1 > at around 50-75% percent of all boots. It all boils down to GENERIC > throwing the following: > > AP #1 (PHY #1) failed! > panic y/n? [y] panic: bye-bye > cpuid = 0 > > However, this only happens when booting from the hard disk. A boot > from the install CD works perfectly every time. Testing the machine > with 7.2 last night revealed the same issue, so this is not specific > to 8.0 > As an interesting side-note: the odds of a successful boot increase > dramtically when cold-booting. Rebooting from e.g. Linux or Windows > seems to push the failure-rate to around a 100% every time. > We have 3 of these machines. In my experience, keyboard activity triggers the problem. If I boot the machine without any keyboard presses/releases between the time the loader starts the kernel and some time later, definitely by the time the USB keyboard driver attaches, then I don't get this problem. This includes any key-up (and maybe key repeat) events you may generate after typing a key at the boot menu, or after typing enter at the OK prompt, or pressing a key to bypass the autoboot timeout that counts down by seconds. If you let the machine start from cold without touching the keyboard, what happens? If you get to the loader "ok " prompt, then enter "autoboot" and wait for it to time out and boot, what happens? If you press a key or type "boot" to boot the machine while in the loader, what happens? There's been some discussion of SMI-related problems and the long time SMI interrupts take on some machines; my guess is that this is related to that. --jh