From owner-freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Tue Sep 1 19:53:48 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkg@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1379C71E9 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 2015 19:53:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffreybouquet@yahoo.com) Received: from nm37-vm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm37-vm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.238.204]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B7A512CA for ; Tue, 1 Sep 2015 19:53:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffreybouquet@yahoo.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1441137220; bh=438Jaddo+5955GgVmIkdEVBI56N94xVxJRExYLQIt/8=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=R2qb7mmn2ZJOSgZLBwWDYoxhuWIT85UXH/hbQwJ8TaXBPSQ5Zqr5njgIBEKoE0bAch3cmU4b/Km3/MeTYLt2ReMDWPYotlOpck9RQqn17O2hmjVe/1GpP5bZjab+OTalG9B7qA4YRs0rKUsV2YqY91vuYMNtIeVD/oRVIlyMHMCqHDDVUpDAIdxavTZg9Mibfn3eWytvsi/aLRnt6ZdGMqsR9gyNPLv1B5TImIBIM9FwWqbNd9yi8VtipuzxCsL26za8Y5L6VYy76IB06w/ZX5JirQrGx2wO9zo5T2Y2VdB/aG6xbuMDStIu94DrJQUDst7gUdbhyHVyQj5dpmf7Vg== Received: from [98.139.215.142] by nm37.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Sep 2015 19:53:40 -0000 Received: from [98.139.211.162] by tm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Sep 2015 19:53:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp219.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Sep 2015 19:53:40 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 824714.83659.bm@smtp219.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 9CpW.0IVM1kJTOWlX1BkTUCGWjqXfNBosE2GxlPJXuiPP6b So6psaLgT7aA9P0qC95e0xGj0GbTCJ9WjVta7sUJEyNnvYCZrJt9rJUIXY87 yu6Z2YX3BHpgKWqxMTQE7abpx5S4nb56bNmiPNR2uBenDYvU9VCH7WbaiwL3 oQcar03wTGrwI7dBMZBSkhfo.88ZzByUAOkchWoIv9cFlsaM7QZlxZ92ER6m 9odpkoaE9MExSm8kpO1jZ.sAIuJ1s7eEgyheukCi56X3CFZ8_A1VL9CEPnoH RfU5JoWJZjfSaFKATawK3WUW3XZwsYlTuNlPqBrKq2RzJPGzmQRbgkdvcHy4 yxt3xx5ShwljjRFYHVa58Z7TovOaOlHuevU8MBzOwp8ljEc3L7ZuHqQkFgQY t_n2foM7bdpxvFDGjFVL6.9EAi2mNP8v7AZM2rE4wuJ1nWM4LUxJ5bUnqF95 K2vv7ix86pRkQXWbJrFjgmC9kcp4r_oGyI325pDqAUfw2DPJ8dwwPTLrVMfJ sJFEGLkQhAfn0XAfeXgzWmEHLDA.Z0fpCjxqUNQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: 6IZaPQyswBAeyzp3urHRlQfBxGxx4Js3YAIn Subject: Re: pkg install less convenient than should be, as of yet... To: Mathieu Arnold , freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org References: <55E4F730.4050803@yahoo.com> <4E644A9DD5EFE30F2AAF1947@ogg.in.absolight.net> From: Jeffrey Bouquet Message-ID: <55E60235.3080303@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 12:53:25 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E644A9DD5EFE30F2AAF1947@ogg.in.absolight.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2015 19:53:48 -0000 On 09/01/2015 03:03, Mathieu Arnold wrote: > +--On 31 août 2015 17:54:08 -0700 Jeffrey Bouquet via freebsd-pkg > wrote: > | Needed again: > | > | pkg-static install foo foo foo foo > | > | Sometimes pulls in qt4, this time java. So for instance, > | "foo" are 30 or so (typical...) they have to be done five > | at a time because no information is given > | > | NEW > | > | UPGRADED > | > | REINSTALLED > | > | > | which of the UPGRADED or REINSTALLED are > | the "problem" (NEW) (typcally, here, > | one of 20 or 40 or 60...) and can be skipped. > | > | ... > | so some reason given for each item in NEW, or an option to > | one-by-one confirm (y ? y? y? showing the consequence of > | each action (portmaster style, if one will... ) > > Before installing new packages, run pkg upgrade. After that, it will not > ask you to upgrade bits of your system. > # script typescript-DATE pkg upgrade pkg upgrade is a no-op [ ...an edge case here of a single desktop with a close control about which large dependencies get pulled in because of disk space on the backups, AND numerous ports installed that could throw complexities into the backup schemes... ] *because* it installs the qt4, or java, and consumes more disk space and time... too many ports installed here VS the easier way (here at least) of substituting pkg install... Sorry for the hasty answer. Everything is hurried today.