From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 20 00:39:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BBF32DF3 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 00:39:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sender1.zohomail.com (sender1.zohomail.com [72.5.230.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E6918A1 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 00:39:27 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=zapps768; d=zoho.com; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version; b=vXeiWc9YBsZ/Vkfai6sHDQnE6bXWZEBAfBiOiFW71v4rFgRnKhQaCxk8Gk2tPc5/bNjpFh9YZQYe cjOJySxuXFqsvN6AHg5gqeMmmfkgcgcAphMHFZlyqgRcAfkLxFtE Received: from [192.168.11.5] (213.111.120.236 [213.111.120.236]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1387499961225338.4008031092162; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 16:39:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: has anyone read this blog From: clutton To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 02:39:12 +0200 Message-ID: <1387499952.4427.4.camel@eva02.mbsd> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZohoMail: Ss SS_10 UW UB ZCF-710TPL UW UB SGR3_1_26113_142 X-ZohoMail-Owner: <1387499952.4427.4.camel@eva02.mbsd>+zmo_0_ X-ZohoMail-Sender: 213.111.120.236 X-Zoho-Virus-Status: 2 X-ZohoMailClient: External X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 00:39:27 -0000 On Thu, 2013-12-19 at 18:22 +0000, jb wrote: > krad gmail.com> writes: > > > > > I stumbled across it today and it seems to go a little further than the > > normal os bashing and could be being liable about a few people > > > > http://aboutthebsds.wordpress.com/ > > > > I hope its some ones bad taste in humour > > Hi, > > I think some of the comments there are a proof that the author lacks > knowledge about topics discussed ("Why do BSD people fear systemd?" post > is an example of it; I am a long time Linux user and consider it, > supposedly only a replacement for an init system, a kind of "trojan horse" > of free software eco-system). > > But, the point she made indirectly via FreeBSD list posts about Google > Analytics is right. > > Considering that Google officially said that it will not respect user's choice > to not be tracked ("Do Not Track" option in a browser), then it is reasonable > to reject their privacy-violating software. > > Considering also that FreeBSD made that announcement a year ago (Dec 2012) > and since then the world learned more about friendly spying (yes, everybody > does it, btw), it is resonable to back off. > > Besides, the justification for it > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2012-December/001441.html > is unreasonable - a free and open software like FreeBSD should think twice > before giving even an appearance of tracking users on their site except for > security reasons (I think the behavioral reasons given are not sincere - > FreeBSD can "leave the home without it", really ...). > Using a de facto spyware for that purpose makes it even more ridiculous. > > And if you have a doubt about it, then read this (and followup comments > which are even more enlightening): > http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/19/us/politics/report-on-nsa-surveillance-tactics.html?emc=edit_na_20131218&_r=1&#h[] > > "The Times They Are A-changin'". > I think you are losing the PR part of it for certain. > > jb I was also surprised when I saw a google analytics announce in the mailing list.