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Date:      Fri, 12 Sep 2014 11:40:38 -0700
From:      Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>
To:        Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org>
Cc:        "freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org" <freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Issues with urtwn
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What the hell is calling sta power save? Can you go put in a stack
trace (maybe use dtrace :) whenever the sta powersave routines get
called?

That's odd.

So you see TIM=1 from the AP, but since powersave isn't enabled, it
doesn't transition the NIC back to normal.

So ieee80211_sta_pwrsave() is set in vap->iv_sta_ps.

That's only called in:

* the scan task for bgscan;
* transitioning in/out of IEEE80211_S_SLEEP state.

So, I don't know why you're seeing the above. In fact, if you hacked
up urtwn to at least do powersave, the tim_notify will transition the
VAP from SLEEP to RUN.

In fact, hm. Can you file a bug for the above? There's the bug you're
seeing, then there's the "we see a TIM flag for us, maybe we need to
force transition out of sleep even if we think we're not in
powersave".

Thanks,



-a


On 12 September 2014 10:57, Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org> wrote:
> This is what the debug output looks like when things go wrong:
> wlan0: [54:78:1a:a0:91:22] sta power save mode on
> wlan0: wlan0: [54:78:1a:a0:91:22] save frame with age 41, 1 now queued
> [54:78:1a:a0:91:22] sta power save mode off
> wlan0: [54:78:1a:a0:91:22] flush ps queue, 1 packets queued
> wlan0: [54:78:1a:a0:91:22] sta power save mode on
> wlan0: [54:78:1a:a0:91:22] save frame with age 41, 1 now queued
> wlan0: [54:78:1a:a0:91:22] save frame with age 0, 2 now queued
> wlan0: [54:78:1a:a0:91:22] save frame with age 0, 3 now queued
> wlan0: [54:78:1a:a0:91:22] save frame with age 0, 4 now queued
> wlan0: ieee80211_sta_tim_notify: TIM=1
> wlan0: ieee80211_sta_tim_notify: TIM=1
> wlan0: ieee80211_sta_tim_notify: TIM=1
> wlan0: ieee80211_sta_tim_notify: TIM=1
> wlan0: ieee80211_sta_tim_notify: TIM=1
> wlan0: [54:78:1a:a0:91:22] save frame with age 0, 5 now queued
> wlan0: [54:78:1a:a0:91:22] save frame with age 0, 6 now queued
>
> Let me know if I can test anything else.
> -Nathan
>
>
> On 09/08/14 15:17, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>>
>> Please compile your kernel with IEEE80211_DEBUG, then enable debugging
>> - wlandebug +state +power
>>
>> You can disable powersave with 'ifconfig wlan0 -powersave', but it
>> shouldn't be enabled by default.
>>
>>
>>
>> -a
>>
>>
>> On 8 September 2014 15:14, Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> So it's definitely to do with powersave. Here's a bunch of iterations of
>>> ifconfig list sta on my laptop:
>>> ADDR               AID CHAN RATE RSSI IDLE  TXSEQ  RXSEQ CAPS FLAG
>>> 54:78:1a:a0:91:22  149    1  54M 37.0    0   4385  37104 EPS A
>>> HTCAP
>>> RSN WME
>>> ADDR               AID CHAN RATE RSSI IDLE  TXSEQ  RXSEQ CAPS FLAG
>>> 54:78:1a:a0:91:22  149    1  54M 37.5    0   4412  39360 EPS A
>>> HTCAP
>>> RSN WME
>>> ADDR               AID CHAN RATE RSSI IDLE  TXSEQ  RXSEQ CAPS FLAG
>>> 54:78:1a:a0:91:22  149    1  54M 37.5    0   4417  39360 EPS AP
>>> HTCAP
>>> RSN WME
>>> ADDR               AID CHAN RATE RSSI IDLE  TXSEQ  RXSEQ CAPS FLAG
>>> 54:78:1a:a0:91:22  149    1  54M 37.5    0   4417  39360 EPS AP
>>> HTCAP
>>> RSN WME
>>> ADDR               AID CHAN RATE RSSI IDLE  TXSEQ  RXSEQ CAPS FLAG
>>> 54:78:1a:a0:91:22  149    1  54M 37.5    0   4417  39360 EPS AP
>>> HTCAP
>>> RSN WME
>>>
>>> You can see the connection die on the third line, when the txseq and
>>> rxseq
>>> counters stop incrementing and 'P' gets added to the FLAG field. Does
>>> this
>>> mean the AP has turned on powersave on its end?
>>> -Nathan
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/07/14 14:07, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> The way it's supposed to work in the legacy 802.11 powersave world is
>>>> that you send a/any data frame with the powermgt bit in the 802.11
>>>> header set to 0 and the AP goes "oh they're awake!" and sends you your
>>>> buffered frames.
>>>>
>>>> By default powersave isn't enabled, so we should never be _telling_
>>>> the AP that we're going to sleep and the stack always sends data
>>>> frames with pwrmgt=0.
>>>>
>>>> You can ensure it's disabled by ifconfig wlan0 -powersave
>>>>
>>>> The code in -HEAD that manages that is in ieee80211_power.c. I added
>>>> an explicit powersave support mode for NICs that need it done for them
>>>> - and the only one it's enabled for right now is ath(4).
>>>>
>>>> The only reason net80211 sends pwrmgt changes outside of having
>>>> net80211 power save enabled is the background scan code.
>>>>
>>>> I'd compile in IEEE80211_DEBUG in your kernel, then I'd use wlandebug
>>>> +scan to see if somehow there's some scanning going on; and wlandebug
>>>> +power to see if any power save transitions occur.
>>>>
>>>> Are you absolutely sure it's a receive side buffering problem, rather
>>>> than a send side problem?
>>>>
>>>> It's also possible that the NIC stops receiving and the AP treats that
>>>> as "oh ok, they've gone to sleep for a while." ath(4) now does this in
>>>> hostap mode.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -a
>>>>
>



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