From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 16 01:49:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905654F4; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 01:49:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3401386; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 01:49:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.1] ([173.88.196.224]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 15 Jun 2013 18:49:47 -0700 Message-ID: <51BD19B8.3030406@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 21:49:44 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: remko@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/179443: Rewrite of the Handbook Chapter 16 Jails. References: <201306151951.r5FJpHun009955@freefall.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <201306151951.r5FJpHun009955@freefall.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jun 2013 01:49:48.0250 (UTC) FILETIME=[C8A5ABA0:01CE6A33] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 01:49:53 -0000 remko@FreeBSD.org wrote: > Synopsis: Rewrite of the Handbook Chapter 16 Jails. > > State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback > State-Changed-By: remko > State-Changed-When: Sat Jun 15 19:48:54 UTC 2013 > State-Changed-Why: > Dear Joe, > > Please submit an unified diff so that I can review what you have written and what > the changes are. I will not be looking at the raw HTML you provided. In addition > it seems that from a peek only you are the contributor, but we both know that that is > not the case. > > I still have the qjail vs ezjail discussion in mind, so I think you should provide > a very heldback diff and not change the contributors at all (which you seem to be > doing again). > > > > Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->remko > Responsible-Changed-By: remko > Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Jun 15 19:48:54 UTC 2013 > Responsible-Changed-Why: > Take the PR so that I can either close it or work on it IF joe convinces > me that it's worth the trouble. > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=179443 > > Hello Remko: You are way off base here. Your judgment is clouded by things that have no bearing on this PR. The handbook jail chapter rewrite has nothing to do with ezjail or qjail ports. If you would have taken the time to study the html doc you would have seen that for your self. Just because qjail was created by Filipinos who are not knowledgeable in open source protocol is no reason to insinuate things were done on purpose with intent. We now know we erred in judgment and have resolved the problem. So lets put this behind us and move on with this PR. The word "rewite" in the PR subject means this html content is intended to replace the existing content of the current handbook chapter 16. The PR "subject" sure seem very clear in that meaning. If the Doc group members feels that they want to keep the current outdated handbook chapter 16 content, and add what I wrote as another sub-section, thats for the Doc team members to discuss and decide as a group. From the tone of what you wrote I don't feel you can be fair and professional in your judgment concerning this PR. If you can convince me that you can put the past behind you and change your attitude them you can work this PR, otherwise just return it to open status for some other Doc member to select to take it on. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 16 01:58:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD025A0; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 01:58:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onyx.glenbarber.us (onyx.glenbarber.us [IPv6:2607:fc50:1000:c200::face]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36CD013BF; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 01:58:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from glenbarber.us (kaos.glenbarber.us [71.224.221.174]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: gjb) by onyx.glenbarber.us (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2EA7E23F841; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 21:58:03 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 onyx.glenbarber.us 2EA7E23F841 Authentication-Results: onyx.glenbarber.us; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 21:58:01 -0400 From: Glen Barber To: Fbsd8 Subject: Re: docs/179443: Rewrite of the Handbook Chapter 16 Jails. Message-ID: <20130616015801.GB1692@glenbarber.us> References: <201306151951.r5FJpHun009955@freefall.freebsd.org> <51BD19B8.3030406@a1poweruser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DKU6Jbt7q3WqK7+M" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <51BD19B8.3030406@a1poweruser.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 01:58:08 -0000 --DKU6Jbt7q3WqK7+M Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 09:49:44PM -0400, Fbsd8 wrote: > Hello Remko: >=20 > You are way off base here. Your judgment is clouded by things that > have no bearing on this PR. >=20 > The handbook jail chapter rewrite has nothing to do with ezjail or > qjail ports. If you would have taken the time to study the html doc > you would have seen that for your self. Just because qjail was > created by Filipinos who are not knowledgeable in open source > protocol is no reason to insinuate things were done on purpose with > intent. We now know we erred in judgment and have resolved the > problem. So lets put this behind us and move on with this PR. >=20 > The word "rewite" in the PR subject means this html content is > intended to replace the existing content of the current handbook > chapter 16. The PR "subject" sure seem very clear in that meaning. >=20 Well, where is mention of the jail(8) utility in your "rewrite"? Based on a cursory reading, you replaced the native base system functionality with a set of scripts. Where is the information for people who do not want to use your scripts? > If the Doc group members feels that they want to keep the current > outdated handbook chapter 16 content, and add what I wrote as > another sub-section, thats for the Doc team members to discuss and > decide as a group. >=20 > From the tone of what you wrote I don't feel you can be fair and > professional in your judgment concerning this PR. If you can > convince me that you can put the past behind you and change your > attitude them you can work this PR, otherwise just return it to open > status for some other Doc member to select to take it on. >=20 As far as I am concerned, the PR originator's attitude remains negative, and unchanged. I suggest the PR be permanently closed without further review until he decides to reevaluate his harmful (to the Project) point of view. Glen --DKU6Jbt7q3WqK7+M Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJRvRupAAoJEFJPDDeguUajsbIH/1VCCWBVGmMlywZBjzCg7TaH uCMQeky32gajWi/BjjvtRyXL8WOALHrKnETtupiYPD1u7gV7xYHFP3pSO5Fc5Cys VtHECz249vTI47+3m4vYwsRB84X9w6Htje5/1ZH/xzaD3rhsGIq1GA6bsx+SOptl LQ3rGjQlp/7yuZifJpmUp5cW5Qkx1PORQj5b/gYu5GDvqflRTDV7X2QpJj5y1tz9 93FzLylSyGcClwUUx6rjqppuA8Fs0SWfSHwnnKUz39X3jR3WX1BjBrS9aB0mnnyS xqvoiQsobxbN0Gl23pyfaqAGq731OCJTGeMDG8f31SR9o1UXpbNyhBKz/WEFvyA= =finl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DKU6Jbt7q3WqK7+M-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 16 16:55:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9E7883 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:55:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD2BC1F1F for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:55:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.1] ([173.88.196.224]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 16 Jun 2013 09:55:58 -0700 Message-ID: <51BDEE1C.7000609@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 12:55:56 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: doc committors abusing powers for personal agenda. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jun 2013 16:55:59.0057 (UTC) FILETIME=[602C6C10:01CE6AB2] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:55:58 -0000 I want to report 2 doc team members who are abusing their commit privileges. The attitude they have shown me is the complete opposite from what I experienced at the BSDcan "doc lounge". I am trying to reach the person in control of the doc team. Someone who has the overall authority to review their PR postings and revoke their commit powers. If you are this person then please reply in a timely manner demonstrating your interest to investigate my allegations. Sincerely yours Joe Barbish From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 16 16:58:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC9A8D9; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:58:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cvs-src@yandex.ru) Received: from forward2h.mail.yandex.net (forward2h.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:f05::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8384D1F2F; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:58:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp3h.mail.yandex.net (smtp3h.mail.yandex.net [84.201.186.20]) by forward2h.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 1239F7004A9; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:58:22 +0400 (MSK) Received: from smtp3h.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3h.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id BF5801B40E66; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:58:22 +0400 (MSK) Received: from unknown (unknown [178.76.224.133]) by smtp3h.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id Y1R5PnZEV9-wM4ejge1; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:58:22 +0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1371401902; bh=0QVwZ6ybT0bo02TvPIZ7mdhVBFIhTLSLShNnMBp2c3c=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject: References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=lK18Hl39Uoh4ROvrF7+SOBP+ZCLBTIKXxrQ1ITTRcP/8BUouXfZwjdD+xkePI+CIe zhFbKQkboLDBDsBrZOqzRL2R6LzT39Cg/WToJYXGBRxJwlEZK4exfF2nsdzyVRkc7f /bDsp/KcLIppO2RZmo53gMPvWZ3jT23Oz/zX9Nqk= Authentication-Results: smtp3h.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.ru Message-ID: <51BDEE9C.5020705@yandex.ru> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:58:04 +0400 From: Ruslan Makhmatkhanov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130516 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barber Subject: Re: cgi/ports.cgi: Last database update References: <51930CFB.3020106@yandex.ru> <20130515125415.GA1635@glenbarber.us> In-Reply-To: <20130515125415.GA1635@glenbarber.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: www@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:58:24 -0000 Hi Glen, Glen Barber wrote on 15.05.2013 16:54: > On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 08:20:11AM +0400, Ruslan Makhmatkhanov wrote: >> Hello, >> >> some user on a forum pointed out that freebsd.org's ports tree is >> not updated since 2012-11-11. F.e. I looking for gajim in the ports >> tree: >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=gajim&stype=all&sektion=all >> >> There is the message: >> "Last database update: 2012-11-11 10:45:48 UTC" >> >> And gajim version is at 0.15.2 (while it was already updated to >> 0.15.3_1) and gajim-devel still here. >> >> If I understand correctly, this may be related to CVS-exporter deprecation. >> >> Is this is a known issue and is there any plans to fix that? >> Thanks. >> > > I will take a look at this today. > > Glen Any news? -- Regards, Ruslan Tinderboxing kills... the drives. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 16 19:32:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1A641A for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 19:32:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dru.lavigne@att.net) Received: from nm11.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm11.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4355A1659 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 19:32:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.44.103] by nm11.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jun 2013 19:30:01 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.76] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jun 2013 19:30:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1013.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jun 2013 19:30:01 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 9713.84947.bm@omp1013.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 99794 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Jun 2013 19:30:00 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1371411000; bh=g1C4vObRH5zc72tDAOZF4rxBbu6ZJgYygqVheKSn26Y=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HHDPFT/obL1bUQJ6LBrWupA4AqXFAjggna2Jy5Twxy5H0hu2R8+v3gUaOdWlsBJnk6egxpCjNJ1w9fEZAVkbbvVwzExTYF4AwDqa/eUMrbbfWtWergcY9bSfcAU+eCDCsVXkXzhuBK+edU09aWHaAGdqsLp+olEtqQg+SsipSPk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DE1HF0HDOScYaJM4o2GiL6ewPUsyinEEY5ieA4DJ7quT01JbjNvCxHPtTciQb5ROAr3k3wEix42UFsfbUaHd5bDeYJYpztHe4DxGW28//pYQOHfSzOhuFcgcqD7yRHVC/sult5i7KkdY9k1SdLb8U73x/89Kwd/qdEIoL5vF+1M=; X-YMail-OSG: 9bG6HTsVM1nkqE4WO4JxgnEWP8l6xYbuX_mNxIg4v4a6rOr zDJcdeP5VebkPEY.e6OssMS2XW5GyTctpf5w2l4Hdnkx5XpGYtV6flyTnw_f 2z72vWKCXE791qCkD_QzQwqifo0ncL.L5wEhXRpZVW2cLsny6MNPkULuXylE Qkd3J0kvRTqKWLqFDgOG1ONbC0OsGY.iO3p85UfbUDeuBVETjnltlqiEQouH RN96Ajy52SKzTubCLn.oR05BINNO9xkcxCn5b.I7sbHRcMeXsoA3jQxRn48a EXEyNCMGbCswYybnlDBaf0qu_CnZ3O13FltJFrZfRd1cO19.iGbv9WUtxgdB n233lTZgARap53C8fisbWjpzk5etxp1GACzw.Mb4xXvSC0NIE2HeMPRkFR8L 5cxW0bYi9UKsnV12ZoQifww9k1nZTdCimyjfBARlHkGvmeyReXYfWtWG9Nvr E4.DCyxG0aAyI2gLBTb0JM_U_WHGAIq8_1fohhfBr4xOFyNatjmn2KEsyCFy FTwaUFDMG1obMdQhes6XCHtJHB.u7sTssAAp9ba7YjAIFWpfCkidLCftB6i9 ORS1AYEg- Received: from [98.100.91.226] by web184903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 12:30:00 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001, SnVzdCBhIHJlbWluZGVyIHRoYXQgdGhlIG5leHQgZG9jIHNwcmludCBpcyBNb25kYXksIEp1bmUgMTcgZnJvbSAxMjowMCAtIDIyOjAwIFVUQy4gCgpUaGUgaG9zdGluZyBzaXRlIGZvciBvcGVuZXRoZXJwYWQgc2VlbXMgdG8gYmUgYm9ya2VkLCBzbyBJJ3ZlIG1vdmVkIHRoZSBhZ2VuZGEgaGVyZToKCmh0dHBzOi8vd2lraS5mcmVlYnNkLm9yZy9Eb2NTcHJpbnRzCgpJZiB5b3UgYXJlIGFibGUgdG8gYXR0ZW5kIHZpYSBJUkMsIHBsZWFzZSBhZGQgeW91ciBhdmFpbGFiaWxpdHkgYW5kIGFueSBhZ2VuZGEgaXQBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.1.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.146.552 Message-ID: <1371411000.96333.YahooMailClassic@web184903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 12:30:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Dru Lavigne Subject: June 17 doc sprint To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 19:32:48 -0000 Just a reminder that the next doc sprint is Monday, June 17 from 12:00 - 22:00 UTC. The hosting site for openetherpad seems to be borked, so I've moved the agenda here: https://wiki.freebsd.org/DocSprints If you are able to attend via IRC, please add your availability and any agenda items that you would like to have included. Cheers, Dru From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 16 20:19:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F22A46B for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:19:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.jr-hosting.nl (mail.jr-hosting.nl [IPv6:2a01:4f8:141:5ffd::25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD21F1798 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:19:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.2.17] (a44084.upc-a.chello.nl [62.163.44.84]) by mail.jr-hosting.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AFC7C38B10BD; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 22:19:15 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Subject: Re: doc committors abusing powers for personal agenda. From: Remko Lodder In-Reply-To: <51BDEE1C.7000609@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 22:19:14 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <32438EA8-01E1-4CE0-80CC-1AA43B702429@FreeBSD.org> References: <51BDEE1C.7000609@a1poweruser.com> To: Fbsd8 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Cc: doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:19:20 -0000 On Jun 16, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Fbsd8 wrote: >=20 > I want to report 2 doc team members who are abusing their commit = privileges. The attitude they have shown me is the complete opposite = from what I experienced at the BSDcan "doc lounge". >=20 > I am trying to reach the person in control of the doc team. Someone = who has the overall authority to review their PR postings and revoke = their commit powers. >=20 > If you are this person then please reply in a timely manner = demonstrating your interest to investigate my allegations. >=20 > Sincerely yours > Joe Barbish >=20 Dear Joe, If you feel you have been treated incorrectly by me or Glen, then I = would like to tell you that doceng@ is the place to go. Perhaps you might get further there, but not on my end. Best of luck Remko --=20 /"\ With kind regards, | remko@elvandar.org \ / Remko Lodder | remko@FreeBSD.org X FreeBSD | = http://www.evilcoder.org / \ The Power to Serve | Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 16 20:31:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9350527C for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:31:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-pa0-x234.google.com (mail-pa0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6903717F0 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:31:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id kq13so2199492pab.11 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 13:31:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1cog68Fsu8SFnVRwnhfPd9z5rb99Jtv34VUxrZZtWkw=; b=fgn062MQ94tQz/XVcThCHtpLalsfY4fWzltYM0kPPSJqNmwglLZs9e7GF2EYKNYPiV XmgsMYZR7DflvcgTg6oW4UgoPFtK41YRDL5K2pHDxLE5VPUAFyIkUaHQDg+efvjk7Ai7 qdrvFZuLw1rmqJlWFjv1mNFJ6O9/Eq3i7Rx6U= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=1cog68Fsu8SFnVRwnhfPd9z5rb99Jtv34VUxrZZtWkw=; b=EFBUpm5RBfnRoYlGtZc32LsrSfNFctm+UZb4HuwZ+pAaePEdpDTFNkP42pVCVwi/Xj 5rDVPll/qsi76+rf/JUYZBLyqgZrOASanVGmizeYarjfDMIH2UGjf0LkG1wfFuQ/3UMX kuGHodhsKbceHEuxBhfp8CaQGd5uZst6/4mXYlhgZL0ImoDENpbxAkT2PrW3tU6azdNN 6qEU1MD2BnpZZLcAXkmzXY583TSFiKIEeKhUsJ3E49od6QkUTjg2LQSlcNaEnDgsG82B sT4d6c+HyJA0Eg9mwBRRA/K+h03zCukpkbd+8fCYDQ6fKwmfFqr2qdRdX0r76nsGDuYy j8Zw== X-Received: by 10.68.170.68 with SMTP id ak4mr10179090pbc.211.1371414694206; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 13:31:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.70.45.33 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 13:31:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Eitan Adler Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 22:31:04 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Correccion sobre hci To: =?UTF-8?Q?Luis_Manuel_S=C3=A1nchez?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn2PPtTM9wcwkeJNoSctsZ1f4Rq3FNQEsVfdxW4/hlhthJiRQw3GXH2+kJPXWDqvmX0AEOi Cc: doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:31:34 -0000 2013/6/2 Luis Manuel S=C3=A1nchez : > Hola... Lei el articulo de Bluetooth en espanol y encuentro que hci host > controller interface esta mal traducido. > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-bluetoo= th.html > > Propongo la siguiente tradiccion... > " interface maquina controlador" > Espero vean la razon. Saludos! Hi, I believe very few Spanish speaking committers are actively working on documentation. It would be amazingly helpful if you could help with this effort. I would certainly be willing to work with you on getting changes into the t= ree. That said, Can you tell me exactly which phrase needs to be changed here? Even if you can't help more than a little I'll try to find someone to review the diffs (I don't speak Spanish) --=20 Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 16 21:02:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6090F913; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 21:02:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onyx.glenbarber.us (onyx.glenbarber.us [IPv6:2607:fc50:1000:c200::face]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3476D18D9; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 21:02:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from glenbarber.us (kaos.glenbarber.us [71.224.221.174]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: gjb) by onyx.glenbarber.us (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CEDD223F841; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 17:02:05 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 onyx.glenbarber.us CEDD223F841 Authentication-Results: onyx.glenbarber.us; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 17:02:03 -0400 From: Glen Barber To: Ruslan Makhmatkhanov Subject: Re: cgi/ports.cgi: Last database update Message-ID: <20130616210203.GU1692@glenbarber.us> References: <51930CFB.3020106@yandex.ru> <20130515125415.GA1635@glenbarber.us> <51BDEE9C.5020705@yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kjzasy1UhXmRStS5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <51BDEE9C.5020705@yandex.ru> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: www@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 21:02:10 -0000 --kjzasy1UhXmRStS5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 08:58:04PM +0400, Ruslan Makhmatkhanov wrote: > Hi Glen, >=20 > Glen Barber wrote on 15.05.2013 16:54: > >On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 08:20:11AM +0400, Ruslan Makhmatkhanov wrote: > >>Hello, > >> > >>some user on a forum pointed out that freebsd.org's ports tree is > >>not updated since 2012-11-11. F.e. I looking for gajim in the ports > >>tree: > >>http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=3Dgajim&stype=3Dall&sektion= =3Dall > >> > >>There is the message: > >>"Last database update: 2012-11-11 10:45:48 UTC" > >> > >>And gajim version is at 0.15.2 (while it was already updated to > >>0.15.3_1) and gajim-devel still here. > >> > >>If I understand correctly, this may be related to CVS-exporter deprecat= ion. > >> > >>Is this is a known issue and is there any plans to fix that? > >>Thanks. > >> > > > >I will take a look at this today. > > > >Glen >=20 > Any news? >=20 Sorry for the delay here. So, there are a few different problems all in this area, that are all related to the same underlying infrastructure. But, here's the short version: I am in the midst of deprecating the machine that used to be responsible for doing the doc/www builds (previously known as red.FreeBSD.org). Well, to be more clear, it is already (physically) deprecated, but its services have been moved to a jail on a different system. =20 The problem I've run into is that there are a few things that are so intertwined, and dependent on the filesystem, that it is actually quite much of a mess to untangle. I have some (I think most) of these running within the new system. (These are where some of the random error emails originated a few weeks ago, actually.) But there are still some service-untangling to do. Some of the filesystem-dependent things appear to use cvs-style checkouts of doc/www (meaning, different directories), and I think this is the core of the problem with the CGI stuff not working. Getting this working again is a very high priority for me, but unfortunately was out of town last week unexpectedly, so not a whole lot of untangling got accomplished. Once I get the CGI hosting moved from the current setup to the new setup, some (if not all) of these website CGI problems should go away as a general side effect of the updates. I hope, worst case, to have everything fully functional on the new system within the week. When this happens, I'll send a heads-up to ops-announce@ mailing list, since I found with the last move that some things did unexpectedly break, so while I can test the majority of the services provided here, I likely will miss something. I know it is not the answer you wanted to hear. But I am working on it, and just need a bit more time to make sure I do not break everything, since there are a lot of interdependencies here. 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From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 17 09:52:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2092388E; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 09:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cvs-src@yandex.ru) Received: from forward1h.mail.yandex.net (forward1h.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:f05::10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E9D1817; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 09:52:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp4h.mail.yandex.net (smtp4h.mail.yandex.net [84.201.186.21]) by forward1h.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 274AB9E0C9F; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:52:55 +0400 (MSK) Received: from smtp4h.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4h.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id A31692C0EAC; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:52:55 +0400 (MSK) Received: from unknown (unknown [178.76.224.133]) by smtp4h.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id PUJwl65DOc-qtcGkG4h; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:52:55 +0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1371462775; bh=KzD7jcvTNAL/KIhipgHPOkWIkJuFUxnwfrimN8g6cMc=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject: References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=eirolqCkTDwznhTysF6fBHo5S9Uaic2AB/t3h/Kv8QxzB6vHYOE6EfbrqS7M8o98H 53PDMaX3tlJN0as97Hn8P+SPAeWTToMcjvvuSpK2RanURMUjkFaJtCJiHFlHVkrSuX 1wdShaWQsHm2V3ngsFcS4OvMpuPF3jHxOdCvNSjA= Authentication-Results: smtp4h.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.ru Message-ID: <51BEDC62.5040904@yandex.ru> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:52:34 +0400 From: Ruslan Makhmatkhanov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130516 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barber Subject: Re: cgi/ports.cgi: Last database update References: <51930CFB.3020106@yandex.ru> <20130515125415.GA1635@glenbarber.us> <51BDEE9C.5020705@yandex.ru> <20130616210203.GU1692@glenbarber.us> In-Reply-To: <20130616210203.GU1692@glenbarber.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: www@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 09:52:59 -0000 Glen Barber wrote on 17.06.2013 01:02: > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 08:58:04PM +0400, Ruslan Makhmatkhanov wrote: >> Hi Glen, >> >> Glen Barber wrote on 15.05.2013 16:54: >>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 08:20:11AM +0400, Ruslan Makhmatkhanov wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> some user on a forum pointed out that freebsd.org's ports tree is >>>> not updated since 2012-11-11. F.e. I looking for gajim in the ports >>>> tree: >>>> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=gajim&stype=all&sektion=all >>>> >>>> There is the message: >>>> "Last database update: 2012-11-11 10:45:48 UTC" >>>> >>>> And gajim version is at 0.15.2 (while it was already updated to >>>> 0.15.3_1) and gajim-devel still here. >>>> >>>> If I understand correctly, this may be related to CVS-exporter deprecation. >>>> >>>> Is this is a known issue and is there any plans to fix that? >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>> >>> I will take a look at this today. >>> >>> Glen >> >> Any news? >> > > Sorry for the delay here. > > So, there are a few different problems all in this area, that are all > related to the same underlying infrastructure. But, here's the short > version: > > I am in the midst of deprecating the machine that used to be responsible > for doing the doc/www builds (previously known as red.FreeBSD.org). > Well, to be more clear, it is already (physically) deprecated, but its > services have been moved to a jail on a different system. > > The problem I've run into is that there are a few things that are so > intertwined, and dependent on the filesystem, that it is actually quite > much of a mess to untangle. > > I have some (I think most) of these running within the new system. > (These are where some of the random error emails originated a few weeks > ago, actually.) But there are still some service-untangling to do. > > Some of the filesystem-dependent things appear to use cvs-style > checkouts of doc/www (meaning, different directories), and I think this > is the core of the problem with the CGI stuff not working. > > Getting this working again is a very high priority for me, but > unfortunately was out of town last week unexpectedly, so not a whole lot > of untangling got accomplished. > > Once I get the CGI hosting moved from the current setup to the new > setup, some (if not all) of these website CGI problems should go away as > a general side effect of the updates. > > I hope, worst case, to have everything fully functional on the new > system within the week. When this happens, I'll send a heads-up to > ops-announce@ mailing list, since I found with the last move that some > things did unexpectedly break, so while I can test the majority of the > services provided here, I likely will miss something. > > I know it is not the answer you wanted to hear. But I am working on it, > and just need a bit more time to make sure I do not break everything, > since there are a lot of interdependencies here. > > Glen Thank you for such an extended response, Glen. Feel free to ping me if you need any help with testing of the new setup (from web-user point of view). -- Regards, Ruslan Tinderboxing kills... the drives. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 17 10:12:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E86D7E0 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:12:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from eu1sys200aog112.obsmtp.com (eu1sys200aog112.obsmtp.com [207.126.144.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 481E91902 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:12:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com ([209.85.212.181]) (using TLSv1) by eu1sys200aob112.postini.com ([207.126.147.11]) with SMTP ID DSNKUb7g9HiMoH/YZORE0lYp7KAq/jybRcsz@postini.com; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:12:12 UTC Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id hq4so1993111wib.14 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 03:12:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:message-id:to:subject:reply-to:x-gm-message-state; bh=fXlz/uuZo4OcBCK/+11/KBK/L4B0edYwK0HDc0PHBFU=; b=ltMm7yklwEdgxpQucwp79nObBAm5ZyFV2iCwx+O75nGIek+6Vz/vtzvv3op5LT9Ulf EMsC9A3Ihc2qGUMGOmyXkLjOwtPCqfw/QQ1vbu0XioI5rF9iuPMMRLu0lEi7NAnEiUUW YjPwjhqLgFy+pSolj/IGgZGHstHv2hb6wS4UtjA29kWNrjnXLSqfeiIGQyCANHldNcxC PECV4g6uYcG+bjF5blV7+uOi8ER7n+sWznRxSVgsC99LhL1mEAKBIhFb/Bqj5Kcnd92l l1cyTPURGWKYJTgjl7LXxZpTUcJPZE3lJKUNFNnTs5mlSvWQwkhFhZQRyLWqypNRBMr7 +4WA== X-Received: by 10.195.12.133 with SMTP id eq5mr7404975wjd.27.1371463583717; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 03:06:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.195.12.133 with SMTP id eq5mr7404971wjd.27.1371463583641; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 03:06:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk. [137.222.187.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fv11sm20902992wic.11.2013.06.17.03.06.21 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 17 Jun 2013 03:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Anton Shterenlikht Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r5HA6KxH018636 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:06:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r5HA6KNV018635 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:06:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:06:20 +0100 (BST) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201306171006.r5HA6KNV018635@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: proposed new mailing list: FreeBSD-Fortran X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkiWTu4TPHG/n8LmQspS4holNPYERhij8Bf+vAz9RtvS26qZQKYn5o7v5M/Mo7smXDBkiveQZcOPHQRN6SjqZCW8lBuJlsrl1H9E3mUB+NHcchDo5cyN32HpPGveLhib9jHiKtx0i1uE+2eAT8Kk0BB1bvuPmZWTlpr+D/d1/2exPjty+c= X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: mexas@bristol.ac.uk List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:12:13 -0000 I propose to create a dedicated FreeBSD Fortran mailing list. The list will be helpful because: 1. There are a number of ports which depend on fortran compiler or libraries in some way: $ find /usr/ports/ -name "Makefile" | xargs grep -i fortran | wc -l 361 $ 2. The FreeBSD Fortran expertise is scattered over many lists at present. This will be a single point of contact for all parties interested in Fortran on FreeBSD. 3. There are several developers/committers with Fortran expertise, e.g. bf@, gerald@, maho@, who maintain a lot of the critical fortran ports infrastructure, i.e. key libraries and compilers. The list will help Fortran users attaract the attention of all these people (hopefully they will want to subscribe). 4. Fortran is old and new, i.e. there are codes which are still in 77 standard, and there are compilers supporting 2008 standard. Accordingly, there is a great diversity of the needs of fortran users. How the fortran ports infrastructure supports these needs should be discussed. 5. There are number of fortran libraries already in ports. There are many which are not. A discussion of what would be good to have in fortran ports is needed. 6. There might be a discussion of the need for a long term strategy or plan for supporting freebsd fortran users for years ahead, including compilers, libraries and end-user code. 7. Fortran is still the most widely used language in HPC, where FreeBSD is still a minor player. This list might help formulate strategy for fortran growth in FreeBSD and thus for the promotion of FreeBSD use in HPC. Clearly this is a very ambitious and a very long term aim. 8. Discussions on this list might lead to a dedicated FreeBSD Fortran page on the freebsd.org site. The page might include the current state of fortran ports, a roadmap for the future, problems, key stumbling blocks, etc. 9. If the list will help formulate priorities for the freebsd fortran ports, then this might help attract porting volunteers. Anton From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 17 11:06:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15870FCB for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:06:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC681BA2 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:06:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r5HB63hU011805 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:06:03 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id r5HB63HT011803 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:06:03 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:06:03 GMT Message-Id: <201306171106.r5HB63HT011803@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:06:04 -0000 (Note: an HTML version of this report is available at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi?category=doc .) The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o docs/179560 doc [handbook] brazilian portuguese translation to "DTrace o docs/179552 doc [handbook] brazilian portuguese translation to "Instal o docs/179541 doc [handbook] brazilian portuguese translation to "Obtain o docs/179497 doc [patch] service.8 add csh completion example o docs/179246 doc [patch] gnome porting updates o docs/178818 doc gmirror(8) says to use rc.early which is no longer ava o docs/178730 doc move roff papers out of src into doc o docs/178677 doc *** [article.html] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc. o docs/178286 doc [PATCH] document the LOCAL_* vars in build(7) o docs/178221 doc Addition to handbook jails chapter: warning about make o docs/178119 doc [ports] Porter's handbook lacks examples for using Opt o docs/178077 doc [patch] Correct description of -webnfs in exports.5 o docs/177988 doc Broken link in IPv6 section of the handbook o docs/177968 doc bpf(4): documentation of BIOCROTZBUF is incomplete o docs/177699 doc Documentation (handbook and manpage) for mac_biba does o docs/177514 doc [handbook] ZFS examples do not cover dataset creation o docs/177457 doc diskinfo(8): diskinfo -v shows inacurate drive size o docs/177431 doc Handbook & Announcements recommend poor dd options for o docs/177429 doc dd(1) man page is unclear about semantics of conv=sync o docs/177056 doc typo in link in handbook section 31.4.16 o docs/176806 doc recv(2) man page grammatical fixes o docs/176648 doc restore(8) man page is misleading/confusing o docs/176645 doc The example in netmap.4 is wrong o docs/176583 doc getifaddrs(3) - struct ifa_data not exist o docs/176363 doc Remove mention of 'CVSup' from "Mirroring FreeBSD arti o docs/176355 doc Attribution and correction of quote in fortune o docs/176251 doc FreeBSD Handbook assumes too much pre-knowledge o docs/176127 doc [handbook] add information about all missing mailing l o docs/176125 doc missing summary of freebsd-jail mailing list o docs/176123 doc missing summary of freebsd-sysinstall mailing list o docs/176015 doc [handbook] wrong order in docs for major upgrade o docs/175995 doc Setting MALLOC_PRODUCTION stops buildworld o docs/175983 doc man zfs are missing "hold, release" from "zfs allow" o docs/175712 doc Update 'disk naming' handbook page o docs/175687 doc pthread_setschedparam(3) may fail for undocumented rea o docs/175560 doc ugen(4) man page contains incorrect device node path o docs/175239 doc sem_wait can be interrupted o docs/175123 doc [geom] gpart list/status isn't documented in usage sec o docs/174868 doc mount(2) doesn't do a good job at describing all possi o docs/174792 doc synopsis for nsupdate(1) missing options -L, and -p o docs/174581 doc man page of recvmsg(2) does not mention return value 0 o docs/173710 doc Added section "MTP storage" to handbook o docs/173703 doc Documentation refers a port that do not exists o docs/173539 doc [patch] statfs(2) man page missed the error code ENOSY o docs/173321 doc ports(7) man page -- no info on building with debuggin o docs/173013 doc FreeBSD Boot Menu documentation lacks detail o docs/172927 doc ipfw(8): ipfw manual page doesn't show simpliest NAT c o docs/172913 doc [ipsec] [patch] setkey(8) is unclear on anti-replay wi o docs/172869 doc [PATCH] Add in nifty lang icons to index.html (home) o docs/172743 doc IPv6 handbooks lacks info about accepting router adver o docs/172626 doc [PATCH] modify the community/* pages to look more plea o docs/172370 doc [handbook] Handbook should be updated for Blu-Ray driv o docs/172369 doc mkisofs(8)/growisofs(1m) don't specify UDF version o docs/172368 doc mount_udf(8) doesn't specify which versions of UDF are o docs/172367 doc ata(4) man page needs an updated for Blu-Ray o docs/172330 doc [PATCH] Fix some errors introduced to announce.xml by o docs/172144 doc psignal(9) manpage is outdated for FreeBSD-9 systems o docs/172137 doc deprecated information for adduser(8) man pages o docs/171199 doc the GDB man page is outdated o docs/170691 doc Difference between zfs manpages and reality o docs/170223 doc IPv6 configuration section for 9.x is incorrect o docs/170119 doc at behaviour and man at inconsistency o docs/169712 doc [patch] porters-handbook zh_TW.Big5 apache section o docs/169711 doc [patch] porters-handbook zh_CN.GB2312 apache section o docs/169544 doc serial port console documentation changes s docs/169401 doc passify dead links in release links, move www to lists o docs/169377 doc [patch] ipmon(8) man page refers to a different facili o docs/169317 doc zfs umount refers to umount(1M) but should to umount(8 o docs/169158 doc [patch] iasl(8) man page is out of date f docs/168939 doc Port upgrade documentation missing from Application Ja o docs/168930 doc map_mincore(9) not up-to-date o docs/168915 doc size of integers used by test(1) and sh(1) is not docu o docs/168823 doc 404s in fr_FR French web pages o docs/168814 doc [patch] remove `d` negative pointer EINVAL requirement o docs/168803 doc Remove outdated smp info o docs/167741 doc group(5): Group Passwords do not work and are not docu o docs/167429 doc geli(8) needs to mention unencrypted /etc/fstab requir o docs/166553 doc find(1): find -delete documentation is misleading o docs/166358 doc No networking in Jail build via: handbook/jail-tuning o conf/166330 doc [rc] [patch] Thin server configuration revision reques o docs/165551 doc ipfw(8): no info in "ipfw pipe show" about ipv6 o docs/165249 doc Multibyte characters in manpages still not displaying o docs/164803 doc Unclear manual page for mount_unionfs(8) o docs/164620 doc Raid 1 issues o docs/164099 doc gparm(8): man page for gparm set is incorrect and inco o docs/164034 doc acl(9) documentation lacking o docs/163879 doc [handbook] handbook does not say about how to force to o docs/163830 doc device smbios: missing documentation, no manpage o docs/163149 doc [patch] Red Hat Linux/i386 9 HTML format sudo man page o docs/162765 doc [patch] lseek(2) may return successful although no see o docs/162587 doc unclear/incomplete description of per-interface statis o docs/162419 doc [request] please document (new) zfs and zpool cmdline o docs/162404 doc [handbook] IPv6 link-local address compared with IPv4 o docs/161754 doc p4tcc(4), est(4) and qpi(4) are not documented o docs/161496 doc zfs(1): Please document that sysctl vfs.usermount must o docs/160460 doc [handbook] Network setup guide suggestion o docs/160446 doc [handbook] Handbook sound setup seems outdated o docs/160399 doc Man page for re(4) missing jumbo frames info o docs/159307 doc [patch] lpd smm chapter unconditionally installed o docs/158388 doc Incorrect documentation of LOCAL_SCRIPT in release(7) o docs/158387 doc The tree(3) man should mention the RB_FOREACH_SAFE() A o docs/157908 doc [handbook] Description of post-install should include o docs/157698 doc [patch] gpart(8) man page contains old/incorrect size o docs/157316 doc [patch] update devstat(9) man page o docs/157049 doc FreeBSD Handbook: Chapter 14 (Security) Inaccuracy o docs/156920 doc isspecial(3) is not helpful o docs/156815 doc chmod(1): manpage should describe that chmod kicks +t o docs/156689 doc stf(4) output-only documentation gives bad configurati f docs/156187 doc [handbook] [patch] Add bsnmpd to handbook o docs/156081 doc troff falls with troff.core with UTF-8 man with incorr o docs/155982 doc [handbook] reaper of the dead: remove reference to flo o docs/155149 doc [patch] don't encourage using xorg.conf outside of PRE o docs/154838 doc update cvs-tags information on releng_* to reflect sup o docs/153958 doc ksu man-page documented, but not installed a docs/153012 doc [patch] iostat(8) requires an argument to -c option o docs/151752 doc pw.conf(5) doesn't define format for file clearly o docs/150991 doc [patch] Install upgtfw using pkg_add as advised in upg o docs/150917 doc [patch] icmp.4, wrong description of icmplim and icmpl o docs/150877 doc ambiguity in newsyslog(8) man page about zfs with comp o docs/150255 doc dtrace description should mention makeoptions DEBUG=-g o docs/149574 doc [patch] update mi_switch(9) man page o docs/148987 doc [patch] {MD[245]|SHA_|SHA1_|SHA256_}{End|File|FileChun o docs/148984 doc [handbook] Mistake in section 16.15.4 of the handbook o docs/148680 doc [sysctl][patch] Document some sys/kern sysctls o docs/148071 doc Failover mode between wired and wireless interfaces o docs/147995 doc elf.5 man page has has missing reference o docs/146521 doc [handbook] Update IPv6 system handbook section to ment o docs/145699 doc hexdump(1) mutes all format qualifier output following o docs/145069 doc Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD article out dated. o docs/145066 doc Update for new uart dev names for serial port. s docs/144818 doc all mailinglist archives dated 19970101 contain traili o docs/144515 doc [handbook] Expand handbook Table of contents o docs/143472 doc gethostname(3) references undefined value: HOST_NAME_M o docs/143416 doc [handbook] IPFW handbook page issues o docs/143408 doc man filedesc(9) is missing o docs/141032 doc misleading documentation for rtadvd.conf(5) raflags se s docs/140847 doc [request] add documentation on ECMP and new route args o docs/140444 doc [patch] New Traditional Chinese translation of custom- o docs/140375 doc [UPDATE] Updated zh_TW.Big5/articles/nanobsd o docs/139336 doc [request] ZFS documentation suggestion o docs/139165 doc gssapi.3 man page out of sync with between crypto and o docs/139018 doc translation of submitting.sgml from docproj/submitting o docs/138845 doc Exceeding kern.ipc.maxpipekva refers to tuning(7) whic o docs/138485 doc bpf(4) and ip(4) man pages missing important corner ca o docs/136712 doc [handbook] [patch] draft new section on gmirror per pa o docs/136666 doc [handbook] Configure serial port for remote kernel deb o docs/136035 doc ftpchroot(5) omits an important option o docs/135516 doc [patch] pax(1) manual not mentioning chflags unawarene o docs/132839 doc [patch] Fix example script in ldap-auth article o docs/132718 doc [handbook] Information about adding a new mirror is ou o docs/132260 doc dhcpd(8) pid not stored in documented location o docs/132190 doc EPERM explanation for send(2), sendto(2), and sendmsg( o docs/131918 doc [patch] Fixes for the BPF(4) man page o docs/131626 doc [patch] dump(8) "recommended" cache option confusing o docs/130238 doc nfs.lockd man page doesn't mention NFSLOCKD option or o docs/129671 doc New TCP chapter for Developer's Handbook (from rwatson o docs/129464 doc using packages system o docs/129095 doc ipfw(8): Can not check that packet originating/destine o docs/128356 doc [request] add Firefox plugin for FreeBSD manual pages s docs/127844 doc Example code skeleton_capture_n.c in meteor(4) manpage o docs/126484 doc libc function res-zonscut2 is not documented f docs/122052 doc minor update on handbook section 20.7.1 o docs/121952 doc Handbook chapter on Network Address Translation wrong o docs/121585 doc [handbook] Wrong multicast specification s docs/121541 doc [request] no man pages for wlan_scan_ap o docs/121312 doc RELNOTES_LANG breaks release if not en_US.ISO8859-1 o docs/121173 doc [patch] mq_getattr(2): mq_flags mistakenly described a s docs/120917 doc [request]: Man pages mising for thr_xxx syscalls o docs/120125 doc [patch] Installing FreeBSD 7.0 via serial console and o docs/120024 doc resolver(5) and hosts(5) need updated for IPv6 o docs/119545 doc books/arch-handbook/usb/chapter.sgml formatting o docs/118214 doc close(2) error returns incomplete o docs/116588 doc No IPFW tables or dummynet in Handbook o docs/116080 doc PREFIX is documented, but not the more important LOCAL o docs/114371 doc [patch] [ip6] rtadvd.con(5) should show how to adverti o docs/114139 doc mbuf(9) has misleading comments on M_DONTWAIT and M_TR o docs/113194 doc [patch] [request] crontab.5: handling of day-in-month o docs/111425 doc Missing chunks of text in historical manpages o docs/111265 doc [request] Clarify how to set common shell variables o docs/110999 doc carp(4) should document unsupported interface types o docs/110692 doc wi(4) man page doesn't say WPA is not supported o docs/110376 doc [patch] add some more explanations for the iwi/ipw fir o docs/110062 doc [patch] mount_nfs(8) fails to mention a failure condit o docs/109981 doc No manual entry for post-grohtml o docs/109977 doc No manual entry for ksu o docs/109972 doc No manual entry for zless/bzless f docs/109226 doc [request] No manual entry for sntp o docs/109201 doc [request]: manual for callbootd a docs/108980 doc list of missing man pages o docs/105608 doc fdc(4) debugging description staled o docs/104879 doc Howto: Listen to IMA ADPCM .wav files on FreeBSD box o docs/102719 doc [patch] ng_bpf(4) example leads to unneeded promiscuos o docs/101271 doc serial console documentation implies kernel rebuild re o docs/100196 doc man login.conf does explain not "unlimited" o docs/98974 doc Missing tunables in loader(8) manpage o docs/98115 doc Missing parts after rendering handbook to RTF format o docs/96207 doc Comments of a sockaddr_un structure could confuse one o docs/95408 doc install over serial console does not work as documente o docs/94625 doc [patch] growfs man page -- document "panic: not enough o docs/92626 doc jail manpage should mention disabling some periodic sc o docs/91149 doc read(2) can return EINVAL for unaligned access to bloc o docs/88512 doc [patch] mount_ext2fs(8) man page has no details on lar o docs/87936 doc Handbook chapter on NIS/YP lacks good information on a o docs/87857 doc ifconfig(8) wireless options order matters o docs/85128 doc [patch] loader.conf(5) autoboot_delay incompletly desc o docs/84956 doc [patch] intro(5) manpage doesn't mention API coverage o docs/84932 doc new document: printing with an Epson ALC-3000N on Free o docs/84670 doc [patch] tput(1) manpage missing ENVIRONMENT section wi o docs/84317 doc fdp-primer doesn't show class=USERNAME distinctively o docs/84271 doc [patch] compress(1) doesn't warn about nasty link hand o docs/83820 doc getino(3) manpage not installed o docs/81611 doc [patch] natd runs with -same_ports by default o docs/78480 doc Networked printer setup unnecessarily complex in handb o docs/61301 doc [patch] Manpage patch for aue(4) to enable HomePNA fun o docs/59835 doc ipfw(8) man page does not warn about accepted but mean o docs/59477 doc Outdated Info Documents at http://docs.freebsd.org/inf o docs/57298 doc [patch] add using compact flash cards info to handbook s docs/54752 doc bus_dma explained in ISA section in Handbook: should b o docs/53751 doc bus_dma(9) incorrectly documents BUS_DMA_ALLOCNOW o docs/53596 doc Updates to mt(1) manual page o docs/53271 doc bus_dma(9) fails to document alignment restrictions o docs/51480 doc Multiple undefined references in the FreeBSD manual pa o kern/51341 doc [ipfw] [patch] ipfw rule 'deny icmp from any to any ic o docs/50211 doc [patch] doc.docbook.mk: fix textfile creation o docs/48101 doc [patch] Add documentation on the fixit disk o docs/47594 doc [patch] passwd(5) incorrectly states allowed username o docs/45303 doc Bug in PDF DocBook rendering o docs/43823 doc [patch] update to environ(7) manpage o docs/41089 doc pax(1) -B option does not mention interaction with -z o docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to GETFKEY/SETF s docs/33589 doc [patch] to doc.docbook.mk to post process .tex files. o docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string warnings o docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) s docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags in the sourc 234 problems total. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 17 18:02:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4414FF2 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:02:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AED916A9 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:02:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r5HI2O8C080085 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:02:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r5HI2OiR080082 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:02:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:02:24 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: RFC: Profiling and merging for the print edition Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:02:24 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:02:30 -0000 My proposal for merging the ISBN branch and getting out of our two-branch problem. First, profiling works. A demo file of the Porter's Handbook is here: http://wonkity.com/~wblock/profiledemo/ After applying the patch, build either the online or print version of the book with: make EDITION=online clean book.html make EDITION=print clean book.html The "online" version includes all sections with edition="online" or an edition not set. The "print" version includes all sections with edition="print" or an edition not set. Actually, all we need to mark are the online (non-print) sections. By default, all sections would be for the print edition unless marked as online. (Difficulties: the default edition should be set in the Makefile, and make needs to recognize that changing the EDITION setting means the files need to be rebuilt. Left as an exercise for the reader.) Given that we can do all or nearly all that needs to be done for the print edition of the Handbook with profiling, I propose the following merge plan: Immediately merge the ISBN branch to head Start using profiling in the entire Handbook When ready to print the book: branch ISBN in the branch, make only the changes absolutely needed for print that cannot be done with profiling print the book the ISBN branch becomes historical, no new changes are merged to it The first merge back from ISBN will be painful. I think, that if I and others pitch in, we can do this merge. And of course, it only gets worse as time goes on and there are more conflicts between the branches. After that, things become much easier. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 17 18:39:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A4DF79A for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:39:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D61DB1868 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:39:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r5HIdDUv080396 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:39:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r5HIdDhY080393 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:39:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:39:13 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: RFC: acronym tags Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:39:13 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:39:14 -0000 The FDP writing guide says: The first three uses of an acronym should be enclosed in acronym tags, with a role attribute with the full term defined. This allows a link to the glossary to be created, and for mouseovers to be rendered with the fully expanded term. I believe this is obsolete. The current usage is to tag every occurrence of an acronym, but not enter the definition in the role attribute. AFAIK, we've never used these to generate the glossary or mouseover links. My suggestion is to make the current usage the preferred style: 1. Tag each occurrence of an acronym. 2. Do not enter the role= attribute. These could result in differing definitions for the same acronym. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 17 19:26:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE6EA41 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 19:26:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dru.lavigne@att.net) Received: from nm28-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm28-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9651A76 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 19:26:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.44.96] by nm28.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jun 2013 19:24:17 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.64] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jun 2013 19:24:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1001.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jun 2013 19:24:17 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 34422.68458.bm@omp1001.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 49082 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Jun 2013 19:24:16 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1371497056; bh=BQFc7kboGr+qt+iBmHbTDVKzxgJwKga3ZLP0qSTBJ80=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hddho2tQ8FXUIFj4MbH914JiRGwn974tjfwDCj9/CrkwxhxxafsvoKylaDLqn//SxlbOjZanMHTYERWlxpesttbKv/7uV9NAxjIfCfWSTi68IB1GI1ynOB4Olp8Jcap9dzTEiRlj9s1FpTrOdVxX0eyo6lfuoUJJ9oiRexX/f8o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jh1K1JQ728sE8rdDMAWWxPOXgIdEe+/Tsebd4ZYJQpYVLsRhWF53w5HZ0x5fMO74xPohEHElQH3ernSsJXeATuVQdcGa7Nba2z+uwj7nOGsJVXFahF2xDexsO6Kq/ekrC1HE5Pvn50yKVAdOI8vcHnCgWSnFnzL/TvnqL7FzfAU=; X-YMail-OSG: 85U8R6AVM1koZJApQNtBCwLP65ETDIyvRQyXvxtRaDzhmAZ 8NQTgLeEP9bf5BeYG5G._5qDGQJrwniy8TVBl_zEu39XaDLCyazyw5lVFhIb BSE8IkexYvcoePZSGyzTqejGBSheW3wHTW7QiTF9rtKWOAFgYo2_P9pa3J0i BLBhOmx.VtzCAd6WITJ9y2WBR7dwN3BJWOtEBCw0sp64pg8GcR9CACL.Pfxt hP0tKRLzRnNLq0RlaYXVqrqygVKY26Rv3wOY1BQ5E8BF1k7Oa07IuYoo6wLX 2.wfnoGUEsWMvR5WwzPPn2V8gbnU7sAbUVSRibuuxS9J3e6JStqrYQuNp5I4 mF1AiqKRHKmEPyuNNiRoL_Z61ZkJm4o.3NlWR3OA6hlj09Yi7e3p7fFVATKX 4HdU2D3DnfYFChl_bHtuUT_1acVtH9rCS_DkpfBUSlrDEO_6lH6ZH3BXzEXS KqdovGtgXWKB9M9MwFBzrEDgW5mh6JbOA.jc0TiIUQO.q.xam1uK5zSxEiv_ .C4Cb6_7ZEwmLJAOdsPfGWcy3wCJQvLkval7N8sCNSi.w0mplD.X78ReUyMM kG.i_Ga2SH88EIizeO5OJpbph6WoOG2ohxW.q1hI28v.zuj_B9kB2RZZ1JKd BnByN5M0FkNqEffHGa.93qUy1oqNHSWAQ8QxX2NFecg7PtTHn4i2LDm8- Received: from [98.100.91.226] by web184902.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:24:16 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001, SSdtIHVwZGF0aW5nIGh0dHA6Ly93d3cuZnJlZWJzZC5vcmcvZG9jL2VuX1VTLklTTzg4NTktMS9ib29rcy9mZHAtcHJpbWVyL3htbC1tYXJrdXAtZG9jYm9vay5odG1sLCBzZWN0aW9uICI0LjIuNyBMaW5rcyIgdG8gbWFrZSBzdXJlIGhvdyB0byBkbyB0aGVzZSAzIHR5cGVzIG9mIGxpbmtzIGlzIGNyeXN0YWwgY2xlYXI6CgoxLiBMaW5rcyB0byBhbm90aGVyIHNlY3Rpb24gd2l0aGluIHRoZSBzYW1lIGRvY3VtZW50LgoKMi4gTGlua3MgdG8gYW5vdGhlciBib29rIG9yIGFydGljbGUgd2l0aGluIHRoZSBGRFABMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/16.0.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.147.553 Message-ID: <1371497056.46380.YahooMailClassic@web184902.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:24:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Dru Lavigne Subject: correct way to do links? To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 19:26:24 -0000 I'm updating http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/xml-markup-docbook.html, section "4.2.7 Links" to make sure how to do these 3 types of links is crystal clear: 1. Links to another section within the same document. 2. Links to another book or article within the FDP. 3. Links to an external website. What is the correct usage for Docbook 4/5 for each type of link? 1. Links to another section within the same document: Is this a with the description to appear specified or an with the section automatically rendered? 2. Links to another book or article within the FDP: Is this a with the description to appear specified or an with the section automatically rendered? 3. Should links to an external website use a tag, an url=, and the description to appear? For example: Wi-Fi alliance Cheers, Dru From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 17 19:56:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B1EF27; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 19:56:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BFA51C41; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 19:56:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r5HJu0UE025146; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 19:56:00 GMT (envelope-from trhodes@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from trhodes@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id r5HJtxKg025143; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 19:55:59 GMT (envelope-from trhodes) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 19:55:59 GMT Message-Id: <201306171955.r5HJtxKg025143@freefall.freebsd.org> To: b.heidotting@yahoo.com, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, trhodes@FreeBSD.org From: trhodes@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/177988: Broken link in IPv6 section of the handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 19:56:00 -0000 Synopsis: Broken link in IPv6 section of the handbook State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: trhodes State-Changed-When: Mon Jun 17 19:54:50 UTC 2013 State-Changed-Why: Over to me and close. Link removed, please wait at least 24 hours before the changes appear to the site. Thanks for the report! Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->trhodes Responsible-Changed-By: trhodes Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Jun 17 19:54:50 UTC 2013 Responsible-Changed-Why: Over to me and close. Link removed, please wait at least 24 hours before the changes appear to the site. Thanks for the report! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=177988 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 17 20:05:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 852913AE for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 20:05:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dru.lavigne@att.net) Received: from nm21.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm21.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F251CC9 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 20:05:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.44.102] by nm21.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jun 2013 20:05:28 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.74] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jun 2013 20:05:28 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1011.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jun 2013 20:05:28 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 962604.53051.bm@omp1011.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 6385 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Jun 2013 20:05:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1371499528; bh=Oyppk+Pv930E1rZ9Cpg7s987X09l33Bi2apIa1l/c6Y=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=A//GvJQ7cMC9HKnDdqySUsPo8JYx3rCVqGxUPSXUw+pGXYS+EamIKzH0eclB/KXjgJ9NRsci6odwOfoQnu93mP4MSoBPIoGGeQ41X9T4ga8snaVHJ0kEY5LATTg7spLzVYWwdrboAL+/nTi5wEfSpdG1TuSjtet7VALSDYS6Ot0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jC96TAEXnq1XxqKzA+irnD6XTzx0FahKe5yHgB3mC7G+l7tIkF25NZG3yMnNkZcGAf1Nx8VOUFAIx6XVYWp4kW5tmk3gqB/+ygKhjzB4DSAtP1hplL39zM090rhnsrkYSQUiU94SZRxzNf/pzSRM4gBgobfkcDPDCkK4BSKMpdc=; X-YMail-OSG: Fkr24fYVM1lkP0TYiyBgsXl_DD.Lj.saK7aLKXfCCQYi4y8 .dtXh6qYdeNPaO6gGCR8CWRVlE_BNanjBj3G48J7VzbwcNQvmRldw7v.SgNX n7Q228O.EvYZUkfJKJi2P37MIbh0ITByQHeegerU640g9SWtUuZwDjyjIFsv IN.aUEaK446TMNjeNBQgOnBgaTklwS5PjPOkDr8PhZvpbxm9NTA7wp.HZDWV LyZ471shuQfFePTN0R7QFGRy.ci5f2K_nUThGT3keCm.UBW_AfA5ZtV2KQEv vt0wY5bml3KX7V2LXnGco4bu97noIXzu8h6LNVk_KTpkjEEiUWBK2CmyycGc 7eD6SBKSN0cnk_wtJWBX..MOXIvmQDmPhvKKbnSGA7OT64LAxbDWC2sv44F0 REv1wplQOaFXQlKHN6ejUatYAp2bi5xCUiKG3PLX6PtaKsCuCDb6tcLOz5iz gd_MSjYKY5oBMc8OhDk4fBUxVCNawmkEC4selQmt9CihruKdFukNxPN0n9_s NGmKkVsjUK5xLvfQwpebf1bkXoWWrVWM8PIzwgYKZlDia Received: from [98.100.91.226] by web184906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:05:28 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001, Z2E.IEVtIDA1LTA2LTIwMTMgMTQ6MTAsIEhpcm9raSBTYXRvIGVzY3JldmV1OgpnYT4gPiBHYWJvciBLb3Zlc2RhbiA8Z2Fib3IgYXQgRnJlZUJTRC5vcmc.IHdyb3RlCmdhPiA.ICAgIGluIDw1MTlGQTRGRS40MDMwMzA1IGF0IEZyZWVCU0Qub3JnPjoKZ2E.ID4KZ2E.ID4gZ2E.IHVzZXJuYW1lIC0tPiBzeXN0ZW1pdGVtIGNsYXNzPSJ1c2VybmFtZSIKZ2E.ID4gZ2E.IGdyb3VwbmFtZSAtLT4gc3lzdGVtaXRlbSBjbGFzcz0iZ3JvdXBuYW1lIgpnYT4gPiBnYT4gaG9zdGlkIHJvbGU9ImZxZG4iIC0tPiBzeXMBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/16.0.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.147.553 Message-ID: <1371499528.97592.YahooMailClassic@web184906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:05:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Dru Lavigne Subject: Re: RFC: Upgrading to DocBook 5.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 20:05:35 -0000 ga> Em 05-06-2013 14:10, Hiroki Sato escreveu: ga> > Gabor Kovesdan wrote ga> > in <519FA4FE.4030305 at FreeBSD.org>: ga> > ga> > ga> username --> systemitem class="username" ga> > ga> groupname --> systemitem class="groupname" ga> > ga> hostid role="fqdn" --> systemitem class="fqdomainname" ga> > ga> hostid role="hostname" --> systemitem class="fqdomainname" ga> > ga> hostid role="domainname" --> systemitem class="fqdomainname" ga> > ga> hostid role="netmask" --> systemitem class="netmask" ga> > ga> hostid role="mac" --> systemitem class="etheraddress" ga> > ga> hostid role="ipaddr" --> systemitem class="ipaddress" ga> > ga> hostid --> systemitem ga> > ga> > Hmm, I do not like to create "a rule" to mark up both a username and ga> > a hostname by using element without attribute. Even if ga> > the rendering results are the same, they are different. Is it ga> > problem with allowing both writing s without attribute ga> > and adding attributes into them later (or at the same time)? I do ga> > not think limiting the vocabulary is useful for learning. Allowing ga> > people who are not familiar with DocBook to mark up by using ga> > only should be enough if it is really an issue. ga> Technically it is easily possible to convert them "correctly", i.e. as ga> described above, it was just my suggestion to leave out class ga> attributes. It is also possible to allow systemitem with and without ga> the class attribute specified. Yes, it is just my preference, too. ga> > ga> This is actually a type of file and the filename class attribute ga> > may ga> > ga> also be devicefile, which expresses its semantics. Again, we ga> > should ga> > ga> consider dropping the class attributes to simplify things: ga> > ga> devicename --> filename class="devicefile" ga> > ga> ga> > ga> These are not actually distinguished in formatting and the package ga> > ga> element expresses them better: ga> > ga> filename role="package" --> package ga> > ga> filename role="port" --> package ga> > ga> > package should support a role to distinguish if it is a port or a ga> > package because the linkend can be different. The following DSSSL ga> > fragment was removed in our XSLT: ga> > ga> > ---- ga> > (element filename ga> > (let* ((class (attribute-string (normalize "role")))) ga> > (cond ga> > ((equal? class "package") ga> > (let* ((urlurl "http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/url.cgi") ga> > (href (string-append urlurl "?ports/" ga> > (data (current-node)) ga> > "/pkg-descr"))) ga> > (create-link (list (list "HREF" href)) ($mono-seq$)))) ga> > (else ($mono-seq$))))) ga> > ---- ga> It's true that I didn't notice this distinction in the rendering. But ga> why not addding this link to both packages and ports? My personal ga> impression is that there are people, who mostly use packages and ga> others, who use ports. This preference is independent from the ga> context. If the text talks about the textproc/docproj ports but I ga> prefer dealing with packages, I will still want to install the package ga> and vice versa. In the essence, they are the same. This is why I would ga> not distinguish them. I think both can have a link, but ftp/wget and wget-1.14.tbz will have different linkends, for example. Although a single linkend like http://.../ports/ftp/wget.html can be applied to the both via XSLT, algorithms of URL generation from the markup text become different between ports and packages. Simplification of markup restricts such a possibility, I think. Can we have a summary for the FDP (and for the benefit of Handbook editors) of when/if systemitem class= should be used? Are there also systemitems for the different types of s which should be used instead? Cheers, Dru From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 17 20:21:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93961E0A for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 20:21:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norberto@searchtopper.net) Received: from p3plsmtpout002.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpout002.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [208.109.80.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F9B1D88 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 20:21:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ot24 ([68.178.128.121]) by p3plsmtpout002.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with : DED : id pYKh1l00h2dHPj001YKhlX; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:19:41 -0700 x-originating-ip: 68.178.128.121 x_spam_cmae: v=2.0 cv=Vo+h8pKn c=1 sm=1 p=2O0dF2s-J9MA:10 p=lHDlUgtR9Q0A:10 p=p2Ua28muAAAA:8 p=P1L-Ej_IocIA:10 a=zw3aEoPtKWuajffabFy8IA==:17 a=oLYaImg18qYA:10 a=jPJDawAOAc8A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=n4H2kX9pzwIA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=yi28XX4LtBHILUKqDq0A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=zw3aEoPtKWuajffabFy8IA==:117 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: =?utf-8?B?U2VhcmNoVG9wcGVy?= Sender: =?utf-8?B?U2VhcmNoVG9wcGVy?= To: doc@freebsd.org Date: 17 Jun 2013 13:19:39 -0700 Subject: =?utf-8?B?U2VhcmNoVG9wcGVyIC0gQmVzdCBBZFdvcmRzIEFsdGVybmF0aXZl?= Content-Type: text/plain; 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Close the PR and over to me. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->trhodes Responsible-Changed-By: trhodes Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Jun 17 20:50:02 UTC 2013 Responsible-Changed-Why: Dead port removed from the sentence, thanks for the report. 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I wish to know the system FreeBSD in the best rules o= f realtionships respect permission to acess the knowledge and develop rela= tion with the comunity. =20 Thanks very much. =20 Luciano Oliveira Araujo Ceres - Brazil = From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 18 23:40:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8E18C7 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:40:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88ABC1AC5 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:40:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r5INe1Vr044657 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:40:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id r5INe15s044631; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:40:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:40:01 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <201306182340.r5INe15s044631@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, "Ronald F.Guilmette" Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4590C59B for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:30:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C181A84 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:30:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix, from userid 1237) id 7EF783BD50; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 16:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20130618233010.7EF783BD50@segfault.tristatelogic.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 16:30:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ronald F.Guilmette" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/179697: Handbook incomplete WRT Opera flash usage (linproc) Cc: rfg@tristatelogic.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Ronald F.Guilmette" List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:40:01 -0000 >Number: 179697 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Handbook incomplete WRT Opera flash usage (linproc) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jun 18 23:40:00 UTC 2013 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Ronald F. Guilmette >Release: FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE amd64 >Organization: entr0py >Environment: FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE amd64 >Description: The Handbook describes how to install and use Opera on this page: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html Unfortunately that page fails to mention that in order to make use of the Flash plug-in with Opera, one has to first mount the "linproc" thingy. >How-To-Repeat: Install Opera and the associated flash plugin and then try to visit a page containing some flash content. It won't work until you mount the linproc thing. >Fix: The Handbook page mentioned above should describe what has to be added to /etc/fstab in order to get the linproc pseudo-filesystem mounted. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 19 10:52:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42EC1F37 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:52:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0258918A5 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:52:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BEAF14D250A; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:43:30 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at !change-mydomain-variable!.example.com Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id PekrkSzxFWrY; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:43:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (54034B4D.catv.pool.telekom.hu [84.3.75.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 126DE14D242E; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:43:23 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <51C18B3C.4040503@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:43:08 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/22.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dru Lavigne , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: correct way to do links? References: <1371497056.46380.YahooMailClassic@web184902.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1371497056.46380.YahooMailClassic@web184902.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:52:45 -0000 Em 17-06-2013 21:24, Dru Lavigne escreveu: > 1. Links to another section within the same document. > > 2. Links to another book or article within the FDP. > > 3. Links to an external website. > > What is the correct usage for Docbook 4/5 for each type of link? > > 1. Links to another section within the same document: > > Is this a with the description to appear specified or an with the section automatically rendered? Yes. > > 2. Links to another book or article within the FDP: > > Is this a with the description to appear specified or an with the section automatically rendered? No. These work in a single documentation only. The best solution currently available is using with a link to the XHTML version of the document at the FreeBSD website. The drawback of this is that it hardcodes the URL into the documents. A more XML-friendly solution would be olinking but it has never been configured and used in FreeBSD's DocBook sources. It could be a longer-term target to change to that but for now, will do. > > 3. Should links to an external website use a tag, an url=, and the description to appear? For example: > > Wi-Fi alliance Yes. Gabor From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 19 10:57:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D40A310F for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:57:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9274F18EF for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:57:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0A514D250A; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:57:45 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at !change-mydomain-variable!.example.com Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id EHMV9ccUDFb7; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:57:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (54034B4D.catv.pool.telekom.hu [84.3.75.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8330514D242E; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:57:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <51C18EA4.7030108@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:57:40 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/22.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dru Lavigne , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: Upgrading to DocBook 5.0 References: <1371499528.97592.YahooMailClassic@web184906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1371499528.97592.YahooMailClassic@web184906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:57:46 -0000 Em 17-06-2013 22:05, Dru Lavigne escreveu: > Can we have a summary for the FDP (and for the benefit of Handbook editors) of when/if systemitem class= should be used? Are there also systemitems for the different types of s which should be used instead? The systemitem element is documented well here: http://www.docbook.org/tdg5/en/html/systemitem.html When to specify the class atttribute is our decision and as you see, there are different preferences. And it is important to note that at the moment we are using our extensions and will only be used once we upgrade to DB 5.0. So the documentation should not be updated with this in head but in db5. As for filename, it will be still and we already use correctly the class names, yet it should be documented. The DocBook reference is here: http://www.docbook.org/tdg5/en/html/filename.html As for the FDP, it is another item, which we have to solve. I have some ideas in my mind but I haven't got there yet so I haven't started a discussion. First, I would like to more clearly separate it into 2-3 parts: 1, A technology introduction: XML, XHTML, DocBook, XSLT. A concise introduction to the ideas behind these technologies and how they can be used for technical documentation. I think it should be like a tutorial, which includes references but it's no use trying to create another XML, XHTML or DocBook reference. It should be limited to the minimal knowledge that is necessary to get started with our docs. 2, How we use these technologies in our documentation set, i.e. the FreeBSD-specific things. One with previous knowledge in DocBook would be able to start reading here. It could fit here whether we use classes on systemitems and how our .mk files work, etc. 3, The FreeBSD writing style. 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Skype: suntec.manish +919953105671 www.technoscore.com www.suntecindia.com From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 19 12:18:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39046B5A for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ds@ukrhub.net) Received: from teta.ukrhub.net (storm.ukrhub.net [212.90.160.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E942E1CF7 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:18:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by teta.ukrhub.net (Postfix, from userid 58) id AC6B924DC25; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:11:58 +0300 (EEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on teta.ukrhub.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=8.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Received: from chaos.ukrhub.net (chaos.ukrhub.net [212.90.160.54]) by teta.ukrhub.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F6B24DC1E; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:11:54 +0300 (EEST) Received: by chaos.ukrhub.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 05C6B4115; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:11:54 +0300 (EEST) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:11:53 +0300 From: Taras Korenko To: mexas@bristol.ac.uk Subject: Re: wrong: Last modified on April 2000 by . in porters handbook Message-ID: <20130619121153.GB21594@chaos.ukrhub.net> References: <201306191159.r5JBxhKx071659@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-u Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201306191159.r5JBxhKx071659@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Key: http://chaos.ukrhub.net/ds.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5128 2A8B 9BC1 A664 21E0 1E61 D838 54D3 8ACC C68B Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Taras Korenko List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:18:45 -0000 On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:59:43PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/index.html > > says: > > Last modified on April 2000 by . > ... because is 'hardcoded'. A workaround is: % svn diff en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.xml Index: en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.xml =================================================================== --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.xml (revision 41948) +++ en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.xml (working copy) @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@ The FreeBSD Documentation Project - April 2000 + $FreeBSD$ 2000 -- Best regards, Taras Korenko From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 19 13:36:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C36C2D4 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:36:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from manish@technoscore.com) Received: from con.contentchimps.com (contentchimps.com [192.232.207.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A89A1220 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:36:49 +0000 (UTC) X-No-Relay: not in my network Received: from Manish-VAIO (unknown [115.254.61.193]) by con.contentchimps.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A3A505FC141C for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:36:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <037413b9$41444$04497960548148@manish-vaio> From: "Manish Gaur" To: www@freebsd.org Subject: Your Website & Mobile App Requirements Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 19:06:19 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: My e-mail client v1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Manish Gaur List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:36:49 -0000 Hello, Hope you are doing well! 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Skype: suntec.manish +919953105671 www.technoscore.com www.suntecindia.com From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 19 20:28:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934502D8 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:28:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-pa0-x22a.google.com (mail-pa0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22a]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3411D40 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:28:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id rl6so5531296pac.29 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:28:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=9EEkqN8voJAZMfSqO88OyDfph85grsbYQmHcEvNyOtg=; b=VbNJSYRotO6hqH5eGVqKoT/Agv5xZIkkFchi4jBhq1DRqtzzX6zdr4R2TXt25454mJ lvst2EGQknvHwZGejmIuR1CLtLGTBkIxdnNfHTqtphvzc3KjXhiw/PVLYhUOrdkm5Koq br4X7ikfxzxAeRnROviVo3WmlBXLJjcqOXk/8= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=9EEkqN8voJAZMfSqO88OyDfph85grsbYQmHcEvNyOtg=; b=TjF/GrFDn2GG7GH57N7+Ktfz0Lilv/T+vqrKc4Ru8V/jY0rlfNTWISYqAFEAaIjlrK H17lPDesgRm3STNYaOLc0x7Bh/01vzZYn/AtFUcF342cUxM7Jb890dVcpTUejRAzAsHO SBR0wRG6kDVRIHkrm7XvAkstw854LCMvNp1lg3boHhVFX+TIajy54ZOACdfE9iHianR0 M/GWpVmqYHOlx2d/9S5NLu2gNdOfzZJG9SvHd/Jit+AhRHUvGZ/MT8NiJqCw334JYgU3 ZFfQ2RuAPyUD0G+BkjotvdkN2uJpfAg9BLTLudF2+J6nEbaCpBmleT+Zx4jCWa+wJmTb BsHw== X-Received: by 10.66.240.70 with SMTP id vy6mr8533092pac.70.1371673733251; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:28:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.70.45.33 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:28:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130619121153.GB21594@chaos.ukrhub.net> References: <201306191159.r5JBxhKx071659@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20130619121153.GB21594@chaos.ukrhub.net> From: Eitan Adler Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 22:28:23 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: wrong: Last modified on April 2000 by . in porters handbook To: Taras Korenko Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnfsTLH0Gvk6jPnP9YGNwcnGjwMFaSlyhXDJSRaaavlr93jN1MrUL0gou4b4uCbI8bPrvxN Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:28:53 -0000 On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Taras Korenko wrote: > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:59:43PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/index.html >> >> says: >> >> Last modified on April 2000 by . >> ... > > because is 'hardcoded'. A workaround is: > > % svn diff en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.xml ... Fixed in r41954. -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 19 23:51:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5E2A4F for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 23:51:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tony@hain-global-consulting.com) Received: from express.tndh.net (express.tndh.net [IPv6:2001:470:e930:1240:20d:56ff:fe04:4c0a]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B12817FE for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 23:51:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from express.tndh.local ([2001:470:e930:1240:20d:56ff:fe04:4c0a] helo=eaglet) by express.tndh.net with esmtp (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1UpS9V-000Lvr-OB for doc@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:51:07 -0700 From: "Tony Hain" To: Subject: broken instructions for buildkernel Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:51:01 -0700 Message-ID: <023e01ce6d47$dab08470$90118d50$@hain-global-consulting.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac5tOsfkV4FQwvLqTCyN7p7A0za8Ww== Content-Language: en-us X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "express.tndh.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see The administrator of that system for details. Content preview: The steps in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html are simply broken/incomplete. This sequence goes straight from 'get the src' to 'make buildkernel'. Doing that to build 10-current on a 9.1 fresh install results in "no previous prototype for yyparse". Searching for that error string shows it has been a recurring problem; & returns comments like ::: "you must do make buildworld first" ::: If buildworld is a prereq, why isn't that in the instruction sequence? Even if it is only required once, on a fresh install it should be possible to look at the FreeBSD docs and build a custom kernel without hitting errors and having to search for hints. [...] Content analysis details: (1.5 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FSL_HELO_NON_FQDN_1 FSL_HELO_NON_FQDN_1 0.0 HELO_NO_DOMAIN Relay reports its domain incorrectly 1.4 DOS_OUTLOOK_TO_MX Delivered direct to MX with Outlook headers X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2001:470:e930:1240:20d:56ff:fe04:4c0a X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tony@hain-global-consulting.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on express.tndh.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 23:51:08 -0000 The steps in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html are simply broken/incomplete. This sequence goes straight from 'get the src' to 'make buildkernel'. Doing that to build 10-current on a 9.1 fresh install results in "no previous prototype for yyparse". Searching for that error string shows it has been a recurring problem; & returns comments like ::: "you must do make buildworld first" ::: If buildworld is a prereq, why isn't that in the instruction sequence? Even if it is only required once, on a fresh install it should be possible to look at the FreeBSD docs and build a custom kernel without hitting errors and having to search for hints. On a separate but related note: the instruction to 'cp GENERIC /root/kernels/MYKERNEL' seems pointless/dated/waste-of-disk-space/likely-to-result-in-confusion-over-time. Direct editing of the entirety of a copy of GENERIC makes it harder to figure out what changes were made specifically for local functions later when GENERIC might have changed in an update. In searching for Hyper-V related builds I stumbled across the mechanism of using 'include' to pull in a current GENERIC, then isolate all local changes in the system specific file. It seems like this would be a better example to be using for the main doc. Something like # FreeBSD kernel conf local customizations # edits to this file allow the GENERIC file to remain untouched # include /usr/src/sys/PLATFORM/conf/GENERIC # target kernel name ident MYKERNEL # GENERIC has debug symbols set makeopts MODULES_OVERRIDE="" # PPS support enable options PPS_SYNC Tony From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 20 01:18:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55EFCD9B for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 01:18:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ddwood@highdensity.org) Received: from mail-pb0-x22c.google.com (mail-pb0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c01::22c]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 330841B37 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 01:18:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f44.google.com with SMTP id uo1so5649466pbc.31 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:18:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent:x-gm-message-state; bh=BF6P1Snk+ZSJXZ5TAdNq+i15TKwB/PDCiZQZK4/+jlc=; b=iWpcmfQQSBtedfVZaH8Z0FeZuTrbIrtc7fVOr6fQBuQeFlCtQupFJodjB6R81Lv2T/ y/pruZlFs3XnxwesG21LmvODmM48LTzq8+MT+YKLWykmGXfq92uu8veH51AbzVsUnlmh Exjoi1KO7WL8bPr0zyR4zbsIbhyOtoIz9tfYUnp1l4YGkQYBIYN/r/ScaCP6BKBNRAjc MxdtfbqTXq2S3HH2THsN1ET6IP5ziZzaAJichEFSG3YoKNz4lE2Hoy0nRWhdJeo2ceHx mzqNv3GqhkyMT+6mvyGADwpbgQriqE2NEisFnTpwYNG1QTKY9xQnHEEqmNJXlQCjBWZl I5oA== X-Received: by 10.66.234.232 with SMTP id uh8mr2495850pac.155.1371691112617; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yavin (ip68-109-181-145.ph.ph.cox.net. [68.109.181.145]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id iq6sm25337083pbc.1.2013.06.19.18.18.30 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:18:26 -0700 From: Derek Wood To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: broken instructions for buildkernel Message-ID: <20130620011826.GA12831@yavin> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <023e01ce6d47$dab08470$90118d50$@hain-global-consulting.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <023e01ce6d47$dab08470$90118d50$@hain-global-consulting.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmjz5znRc5dChy0WUuaRGxRYHts+YgQySMCy0DpiwJt/wWkGSXcvCB/wCmt92+iD8OEhMr4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 01:18:33 -0000 On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 04:51:01PM -0700, Tony Hain wrote: > The steps in > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html > are simply broken/incomplete. This sequence goes straight from 'get the src' > to 'make buildkernel'. Doing that to build 10-current on a 9.1 fresh install > results in "no previous prototype for yyparse". Searching for that error > string shows it has been a recurring problem; & returns comments like ::: > "you must do make buildworld first" ::: > If buildworld is a prereq, why isn't that in the instruction sequence? Even > if it is only required once, on a fresh install it should be possible to > look at the FreeBSD docs and build a custom kernel without hitting errors > and having to search for hints. The instructions for tracking a development branch cover the use case you want: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/current-stable.html What you were looking at is used for building a kernel from a source tree that is already in sync with the installed kernel/world. e.g, enabling PF/ALTQ. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 20 02:17:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 823872A4 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 02:17:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x22d.google.com (mail-wi0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22d]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38E01CD3 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 02:01:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f173.google.com with SMTP id hq4so1316786wib.12 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 19:01:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=iK0orEsInmXUGNt9yg4Jmp3Vo8qUBDpGti/if31VZ6s=; b=j5aqDpF3FPZqy3ho/p0Y9R80vVgMeLNii/23v5mNrka4U899NuBDKtmnvyPX8yQtDd uj8A9CNy5xg96Kp/liYUzFNqrsUxcZfIAaYwvdEtcMgEZ/W+GounydT5qzcI0clBgBGi twj1xTatKzECBDDOEKsllkiQLCkE+VUuJpGbuBAu4bw+bcQeobpihxXGH6lMOsPt9/Ls R9QUaWDOyG12wXc+QFMmnMX5g8q6vLxgxjmTm7flg1YMZMoXF99cKOufB1AgRfLxS+T/ ijRO7uIKj7W0fVojvzdMRs4Sw1iAnPseEWmE+X+BmbfMlT3au/iKG/l2K51iAREiCXSA X3PQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.249.129 with SMTP id yu1mr4281027wjc.10.1371693671603; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 19:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.103.41 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 19:01:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <023e01ce6d47$dab08470$90118d50$@hain-global-consulting.com> References: <023e01ce6d47$dab08470$90118d50$@hain-global-consulting.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:01:11 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: broken instructions for buildkernel From: Adam Vande More To: Tony Hain Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: "doc@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 02:17:02 -0000 On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Tony Hain wrote: > If buildworld is a prereq, why isn't that in the instruction sequence? Even > if it is only required once, on a fresh install it should be possible to > look at the FreeBSD docs and build a custom kernel without hitting errors > and having to search for hints. > It isn't a prereq. Those instructions have remained largely unchanged for years for a reason. You were following instructions on how to build a new kernel when in fact you were trying to upgrade FreeBSD. Use these steps and you'll get a lot farther: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading.html -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 20 13:19:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB85EC1 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:19:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dru.lavigne@att.net) Received: from nm10-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm10-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C527518AB for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:19:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.44.104] by nm10.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jun 2013 13:16:32 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.84] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jun 2013 13:16:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1021.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jun 2013 13:16:32 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 309957.6348.bm@omp1021.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 82306 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jun 2013 13:16:32 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1371734191; bh=WPHpaXo8AdeZI4zJZFet0OFy4A1Lgb6EUOcvkT3FAec=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qA1mPVtHhjFVKakSQmZ6yNa87sca2fQLzXLQekAhlAuMvvmuXdg4ZXtE17NxMRiE6aySYe7IfGiGJljB/4ymfvRehbHuPsj/GWpWmHvfvFVzvEUs+4W17WjEDfwWhig+b5MUzgwMlMLMZKKQCMhmmF0yGln52z5n/1ZQI9lHXt4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=W1PVhk7hvMXcdq6Vy2VroqhLoU1HbJNlptU0YsW5OHjSabxRdrgpoe6NpcCiV9ZKOq81r68p5t6u8dXyfj5UkFhY6uElVJDBRi7Dur0o2EA/sQPP2gs/L+UVF0q0D6SZX11hPEGzXskWt5yEv45wfeZ55dT+DJUrPhTjTeglCMY=; X-YMail-OSG: PTnP4TQVM1ncrNAt8e2RTZaPNvWXsjlwYn4vo.nNNycLJBT icVfumvNlF_vGEX1n6MPycUeOyaRA2jsBnalsZp1QfjDfFbPDxDo1aIzvT67 7OS_cRI8uESAx9l1bK9cLjkaSB8Wl.3MVhdV_8n5kCDeB4YcfCWjlNJGuZLj NLuIy5cdbVfo9ZODI16K0YA8cIvIm0olmUxJVUODYM8hjcPKqH6K8uM8BLXF rCZBiGJKMenA.h7UTIzLvd_caPKd4cm5DuW6YUXDnDs7oxUGpgeSqRe3NyfX DC5.1O0cN1yObv8S.I0vRVtABVI38AVFjumZXcU_MazsEet2MJlhhCZqVCcz suutTby.6eJX0g7ayY2LJc.s_zL95_Wk8UHd80KN8PaFCJPAQKmVxczm_luM w78o_oNzjA8ETdg6LAIJqlnOPmSOOoauL24j14Z7jXsJTF_LI3qtp03R4Aw. jvw7pidSl4Q5Pjho19_LMdiz.jtkxm.YCQWdEvCMfm0xhz51._bHnoskSj5f oi_QLkK.lg8tbSScow6mlJ3dUaqvH9I9uY3C8q4ccWoV3_jAUiDaChv6H_6U UvqCMScLVTjZuMCAj7y68F6Ro_ct0.UhcqstHIVBUpZ95cD0mYGpVkgEHSfr D0viK1oEhvJ35c.QnqvXX.Y3nO3Y- Received: from [99.98.83.69] by web184903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 06:16:31 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001, VGhpcyB3ZWVrJ3MgZG9jIHNwcmludCB3ZW50IHdlbGwuIFRoZSBub3RlcyBhbmQgYWN0aW9uIGl0ZW1zIGZyb20gdGhlIHNwcmludCBhcmUgaGVyZToKCmh0dHA6Ly9vcGVuZXRoZXJwYWQub3JnL3AvanVuZWRvY3NwcmludAoKV2UgZGlkbid0IGdldCB0byBzZXZlcmFsIGl0ZW1zIG5lZWRpbmcgZGlzY3Vzc2lvbiBkdWUgdG8gdGhlIHNwcmludCBiZWluZyBoZWxkIG9uIGEgd29yayBkYXkuIEl0IHdhcyBzdWdnZXN0ZWQgdG8gaGF2ZSB0aGUgZGlzY3Vzc2lvbiBvbiAjYnNkZG9jcyBvbiBhIHdlZWtlbmQgc28BMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/16.0.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.148.554 Message-ID: <1371734191.46110.YahooMailClassic@web184903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 06:16:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Dru Lavigne Subject: doc sprint follow-up on Sunday, June 23? To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:19:48 -0000 This week's doc sprint went well. The notes and action items from the sprint are here: http://openetherpad.org/p/junedocsprint We didn't get to several items needing discussion due to the sprint being held on a work day. It was suggested to have the discussion on #bsddocs on a weekend so I am proposing this Sunday, June 23 beginning at 14:00 UTC. Does that time work for those interested in discussing the following topics? - Warren's profiling demo (http://wonkity.com/~wblock/profiledemo/) and merging suggestions - coordination of pre- and post- release marketing Please indicate if you are able to attend or if you have an alternative date/time. Cheers, Dru From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 20 16:00:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C55C306 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 16:00:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (gatekeeper.allbsd.org [IPv6:2001:2f0:104:e001::32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA9E1265 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 16:00:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alph.d.allbsd.org (p3086-ipbf906funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp [122.26.46.86]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.allbsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r5KFxi5w055531 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 21 Jun 2013 00:59:54 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by alph.d.allbsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r5KFxf44071964; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 00:59:43 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 00:55:00 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20130621.005500.1354772635358785822.hrs@allbsd.org> To: wblock@wonkity.com Subject: Re: RFC: Profiling and merging for the print edition From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: References: X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 6.5 on Emacs 24.3 / Mule 6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Fri_Jun_21_00_55_00_2013_389)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at gatekeeper.allbsd.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (mail.allbsd.org [133.31.130.32]); Fri, 21 Jun 2013 00:59:54 +0900 (JST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-89.5 required=13.0 tests=CONTENT_TYPE_PRESENT, DIRECTOCNDYN,DYN_PBL,ONLY1HOPDIRECT,RCVD_IN_PBL,SAMEHELOBY2HOP, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on gatekeeper.allbsd.org Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 16:00:02 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Fri_Jun_21_00_55_00_2013_389)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Warren Block wrote in : wb> My proposal for merging the ISBN branch and getting out of our wb> two-branch problem. wb> wb> First, profiling works. A demo file of the Porter's Handbook is here: wb> http://wonkity.com/~wblock/profiledemo/ wb> wb> After applying the patch, build either the online or print version of wb> the book with: wb> wb> make EDITION=online clean book.html wb> make EDITION=print clean book.html wb> wb> The "online" version includes all sections with edition="online" or an wb> edition not set. Please do not add a separate make variable for that. We already have FORMATS, and setting profiling variables (profile.attribute and profile.value in XSLT) based on it should work. Also, we should consider/discuss what kind of difference we need actually and should allow between the two first. Basically I am against marking up everything with "online" or "print" because it just makes the source files complicated. I think it is useful only for separating lengthy preface, edition history, and pgpkey list from the body in book.xml. wb> Immediately merge the ISBN branch to head wb> wb> Start using profiling in the entire Handbook wb> wb> When ready to print the book: wb> wb> branch ISBN wb> wb> in the branch, make only the changes absolutely needed for print wb> that cannot be done with profiling wb> wb> print the book wb> wb> the ISBN branch becomes historical, no new changes are merged to wb> it I agree with the above plan. We should work on content changes on head. -- Hiroki ----Security_Multipart(Fri_Jun_21_00_55_00_2013_389)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAlHDJdQACgkQTyzT2CeTzy0+vQCeP1b3RLh7WRwGDeKARlharsGo Eg0An3QBq6aXW67pRdCbMMza6t8kLV2l =QLmk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Fri_Jun_21_00_55_00_2013_389)---- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 20 16:11:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82730773; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 16:11:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA151311; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 16:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1002214D2410; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:11:05 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at !change-mydomain-variable!.example.com Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id LCEMfl6IZI15; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:11:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (54034B4D.catv.pool.telekom.hu [84.3.75.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9203414D2400; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:11:02 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <51C32997.4060402@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:11:03 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/22.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hiroki Sato , wblock@wonkity.com Subject: Re: RFC: Profiling and merging for the print edition References: <20130621.005500.1354772635358785822.hrs@allbsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20130621.005500.1354772635358785822.hrs@allbsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 16:11:12 -0000 Em 20-06-2013 17:55, Hiroki Sato escreveu: > wb> After applying the patch, build either the online or print version of > wb> the book with: > wb> > wb> make EDITION=online clean book.html > wb> make EDITION=print clean book.html > wb> > wb> The "online" version includes all sections with edition="online" or an > wb> edition not set. > > Please do not add a separate make variable for that. We already have > FORMATS, and setting profiling variables (profile.attribute and > profile.value in XSLT) based on it should work. > > Also, we should consider/discuss what kind of difference we need > actually and should allow between the two first. Basically I am > against marking up everything with "online" or "print" because it > just makes the source files complicated. I think it is useful only > for separating lengthy preface, edition history, and pgpkey list from > the body in book.xml. I believe that XHTML is an online format by nature but pdf may also be distributed as an online snapshot after the actual release so I would also treat them separated as Warner suggests. Gabor From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 20 17:03:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1587426; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 17:03:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B631725; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 17:03:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r5KH3Y7s063184; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:03:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r5KH3YMN063181; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:03:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:03:34 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Hiroki Sato Subject: Re: RFC: Profiling and merging for the print edition In-Reply-To: <20130621.005500.1354772635358785822.hrs@allbsd.org> Message-ID: References: <20130621.005500.1354772635358785822.hrs@allbsd.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:03:34 -0600 (MDT) Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 17:03:40 -0000 On Fri, 21 Jun 2013, Hiroki Sato wrote: > Warren Block wrote > in : > > wb> My proposal for merging the ISBN branch and getting out of our > wb> two-branch problem. > wb> > wb> First, profiling works. A demo file of the Porter's Handbook is here: > wb> http://wonkity.com/~wblock/profiledemo/ > wb> > wb> After applying the patch, build either the online or print version of > wb> the book with: > wb> > wb> make EDITION=online clean book.html > wb> make EDITION=print clean book.html > wb> > wb> The "online" version includes all sections with edition="online" or an > wb> edition not set. > > Please do not add a separate make variable for that. We already have > FORMATS, and setting profiling variables (profile.attribute and > profile.value in XSLT) based on it should work. You mean a new format should be added, like "pdf-withoutonline"? That sounds like a better option. > Also, we should consider/discuss what kind of difference we need > actually and should allow between the two first. Basically I am > against marking up everything with "online" or "print" because it > just makes the source files complicated. I think it is useful only > for separating lengthy preface, edition history, and pgpkey list from > the body in book.xml. Agreed. The experiment showed that only sections which should not be included in the printed book could be marked with edition="online". All other sections would be left with edition unset. There is a complication. Links to sections which have been eliminated by profiling will break, so those would also need profiling. I don't know how big an issue that will be, but suspect it will not be very much. Hopefully, the profiling will be unobtrusive enough so that it can be done in head. That will make turnaround time for the next printed version of the Handbook much shorter. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 20 18:20:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2A6AC2 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:20:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18A161ABF for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:20:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r5KIKT0d089805 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 12:20:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r5KIKTXM089802 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 12:20:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 12:20:29 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: RFC: Handbook Storage chapter RAID section removal Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 20 Jun 2013 12:20:29 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:20:30 -0000 The Handbook Storage chapter has a section called RAID that describes the use of ccd(4) and ataraid(4). ccd(4) is obsolete, having been replaced several times by newer drivers. I think ataraid(4) has been supplanted by graid(8). So I propose to remove that RAID section entirely. Yes, people may still be using these devices. But we should not be recommending them to new users. If you have a reason that should not be done, speak now. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 20 18:29:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA50BB; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:29:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0E31B83; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:29:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96CE14D242F; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:29:50 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at !change-mydomain-variable!.example.com Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 0_ayWsLmO4LJ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:29:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (54034B4D.catv.pool.telekom.hu [84.3.75.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 054FD14D2400; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:29:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <51C34A1E.8040004@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:29:50 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/22.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block , Hiroki Sato Subject: Re: RFC: Profiling and merging for the print edition References: <20130621.005500.1354772635358785822.hrs@allbsd.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:29:53 -0000 Em 20-06-2013 19:03, Warren Block escreveu: > > There is a complication. Links to sections which have been eliminated > by profiling will break, so those would also need profiling. I don't > know how big an issue that will be, but suspect it will not be very much. Two proposed solutions: 1, The reference is often the last sentence of a paragraph, i.e. "For further informations on foo, please refere to bar." This can be just put into a profiled phrase. 2, Or if the reference has a longer explanatory text, it can have its own para with a profiling attribute. Gabor From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 20 19:12:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758E2EFB for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 19:12:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-docs@allanjude.com) Received: from mx1.scaleengine.net (beauharnois2.bhs1.scaleengine.net [142.4.218.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5624A1F34 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 19:12:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.1.1.1] (S01060001abad1dea.hm.shawcable.net [50.70.108.129]) (Authenticated sender: allan.jude@scaleengine.com) by mx1.scaleengine.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7387C308A6 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 19:03:21 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <51C351FF.5090502@allanjude.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:03:27 -0400 From: Allan Jude User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/20.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: Handbook Storage chapter RAID section removal References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 19:12:16 -0000 On 2013-06-20 14:20, Warren Block wrote: > The Handbook Storage chapter has a section called RAID that describes > the use of ccd(4) and ataraid(4). > > ccd(4) is obsolete, having been replaced several times by newer > drivers. I think ataraid(4) has been supplanted by graid(8). > > So I propose to remove that RAID section entirely. Yes, people may > still be using these devices. But we should not be recommending them > to new users. > > If you have a reason that should not be done, speak now. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Since gmirror and graid are already covered in the GEOM chapter, that probably makes sense. Organizationally, there seems to be a mix of where the information is. Should all of the GEOM stuff be in the Storage chapter, or should GEOM stuff like gbde and geli be moved from Storage to GEOM? From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 20 19:26:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAEC6828 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 19:26:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tony@hain-global-consulting.com) Received: from express.tndh.net (express.tndh.net [IPv6:2001:470:e930:1240:20d:56ff:fe04:4c0a]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87CC1112 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 19:26:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from express.tndh.local ([2001:470:e930:1240:20d:56ff:fe04:4c0a] helo=eaglet) by express.tndh.net with esmtp (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1UpkVL-000C6q-Dz; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 12:26:55 -0700 From: "Tony Hain" To: "'Adam Vande More'" References: <023e01ce6d47$dab08470$90118d50$@hain-global-consulting.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: broken instructions for buildkernel Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 12:26:47 -0700 Message-ID: <02c901ce6dec$1b330140$519903c0$@hain-global-consulting.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQGGDX7KpgABsvxxFwVvgZBkOP92ZAHa0DPkmcDRmDA= Content-Language: en-us X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "express.tndh.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see The administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Thanks Adam. I had been on the page you sent for the 9.0 to 9.1 upgrade of this machine. My intent was not to upgrade the machine to 10.0, at this point it was just to build the kernel for a new VM. Granted I am not the most engrained in FreeBSD procedures, but to me that leads to the "building a kernel" page. 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My intent was not to upgrade the machine to 10.0, at this point it was just to build the kernel for a new VM. Granted I am not the most engrained in FreeBSD procedures, but to me that leads to the "building a kernel" page. While buildworld may not be a declared prereq, something in that process "fixes" a missing definition. No matter which distro of 10.0 I tried to build it would always exit on a missing prototype for yyparse, but after buildworld it just ran to completion. That sounds like a prereq to me... Even if it is not, a hint on one or both of the pages that reference building a kernel, about yyparse failures being fixed by buildworld would save people frustration and time. If I was the first to stumble over this, I wouldn't have been able to find discussion about it on the web, and still wouldn't know how to fix it. Tony From: Adam Vande More [mailto:amvandemore@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 7:01 PM To: Tony Hain Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: broken instructions for buildkernel On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Tony Hain wrote: If buildworld is a prereq, why isn't that in the instruction sequence? Even if it is only required once, on a fresh install it should be possible to look at the FreeBSD docs and build a custom kernel without hitting errors and having to search for hints. It isn't a prereq. Those instructions have remained largely unchanged for years for a reason. You were following instructions on how to build a new kernel when in fact you were trying to upgrade FreeBSD. Use these steps and you'll get a lot farther: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading.html -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 20 20:19:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25596D6B for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:19:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF529134D for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:19:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r5KKJXnV090576; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:19:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r5KKJWYG090573; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:19:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:19:32 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Allan Jude Subject: Re: RFC: Handbook Storage chapter RAID section removal In-Reply-To: <51C351FF.5090502@allanjude.com> Message-ID: References: <51C351FF.5090502@allanjude.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:19:33 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:19:36 -0000 On Thu, 20 Jun 2013, Allan Jude wrote: > On 2013-06-20 14:20, Warren Block wrote: >> The Handbook Storage chapter has a section called RAID that describes >> the use of ccd(4) and ataraid(4). >> >> ccd(4) is obsolete, having been replaced several times by newer >> drivers. I think ataraid(4) has been supplanted by graid(8). >> >> So I propose to remove that RAID section entirely. Yes, people may >> still be using these devices. But we should not be recommending them >> to new users. >> >> If you have a reason that should not be done, speak now. > > Since gmirror and graid are already covered in the GEOM chapter, that > probably makes sense. Organizationally, there seems to be a mix of where > the information is. Should all of the GEOM stuff be in the Storage > chapter, or should GEOM stuff like gbde and geli be moved from Storage > to GEOM? Long-term, I'd like to reorganize by subject and try to eliminate some of the duplication we have now. Before that, it would be good to trim as much obsolete material as possible. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 20 20:30:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D3D174 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:30:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7043813C6 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:30:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r5KKU0HO020603 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:30:00 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id r5KKU0TJ020602; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:30:00 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:30:00 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <201306202030.r5KKU0TJ020602@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Zach Crum Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31D71132 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:29:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from oldred.freebsd.org (oldred.freebsd.org [8.8.178.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 084FA13B5 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:29:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from oldred.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.6]) by oldred.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r5KKTMBV030394 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:29:22 GMT (envelope-from nobody@oldred.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by oldred.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id r5KKTMOA030393; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:29:22 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <201306202029.r5KKTMOA030393@oldred.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:29:22 GMT From: Zach Crum To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.1 Subject: docs/179788: section 19.3 gpart examples should use partition in newfs and fstab examples X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:30:00 -0000 >Number: 179788 >Category: docs >Synopsis: section 19.3 gpart examples should use partition in newfs and fstab examples >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Jun 20 20:30:00 UTC 2013 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Zach Crum >Release: 9.1 >Organization: >Environment: 9.1-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE-p4 #0: Mon Jun 17 11:42:37 UTC 2013 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >Description: newfs -U /dev/ada1 generates errors and the disk is unusable. change example to newly created partition newfs -U /dev/ada1p1 change fstab entry example from /dev/ada1 to /dev/ada1p1 >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 20 20:31:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828505D5; 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Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:38:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B4B15DF; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:38:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r5KKcRvG022473; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:38:27 GMT (envelope-from linimon@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id r5KKcRoS022472; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:38:27 GMT (envelope-from linimon) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:38:27 GMT Message-Id: <201306202038.r5KKcRoS022472@freefall.freebsd.org> To: linimon@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: linimon@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/179785: [patch] fix the man for man ports(7) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:38:28 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] fix the man for man ports(7) Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: linimon Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Jun 20 20:38:05 UTC 2013 Responsible-Changed-Why: reclassify. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=179785 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 20 20:41:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C300F986; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:41:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858A11602; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:41:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r5KKfsTa090862; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:41:54 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r5KKfs3k090859; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:41:54 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:41:54 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Gabor Kovesdan Subject: Re: RFC: Profiling and merging for the print edition In-Reply-To: <51C34A1E.8040004@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <20130621.005500.1354772635358785822.hrs@allbsd.org> <51C34A1E.8040004@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:41:55 -0600 (MDT) Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:41:55 -0000 On Thu, 20 Jun 2013, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > Em 20-06-2013 19:03, Warren Block escreveu: >> >> There is a complication. Links to sections which have been eliminated by >> profiling will break, so those would also need profiling. I don't know how >> big an issue that will be, but suspect it will not be very much. > Two proposed solutions: > 1, The reference is often the last sentence of a paragraph, i.e. "For further > informations on foo, please refere to bar." This can be just put into a > profiled phrase. > 2, Or if the reference has a longer explanatory text, it can have its own > para with a profiling attribute. Right. My example showed the use of that. I just did not want to oversimplify. There is a little more work than just setting an edition on the sections to be removed for print. However, I think it is manageable. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 20 21:18:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBBE8365; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:18:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eadler@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 949D61794; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:18:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r5KLIW0E030939; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:18:32 GMT (envelope-from eadler@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from eadler@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id r5KLIV4a030937; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:18:31 GMT (envelope-from eadler) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:18:31 GMT Message-Id: <201306202118.r5KLIV4a030937@freefall.freebsd.org> To: rum1cro@yandex.ru, eadler@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: eadler@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/179785: [patch] fix the man for man ports(7) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:18:32 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] fix the man for man ports(7) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: eadler State-Changed-When: Thu Jun 20 21:18:31 UTC 2013 State-Changed-Why: Committed. Thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=179785 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 20 21:20:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E7C70B for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:20:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04DAD17C7 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:20:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r5KLK1fj031070 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:20:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id r5KLK1c8031069; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:20:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:20:01 GMT Message-Id: <201306202120.r5KLK1c8031069@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: dfilter@FreeBSD.ORG (dfilter service) Subject: Re: docs/179785: commit references a PR X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: dfilter service List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:20:02 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/179785; it has been noted by GNATS. From: dfilter@FreeBSD.ORG (dfilter service) To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/179785: commit references a PR Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:16:54 +0000 (UTC) Author: eadler Date: Thu Jun 20 21:16:46 2013 New Revision: 252042 URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/252042 Log: Ports switched from dialog to dialog4ports some time ago. PR: docs/179785 Repored by: Kevin Oberman Submitted by: "Ilya A. Arkhipov" MFC After: 3 days Modified: head/share/man/man7/ports.7 Modified: head/share/man/man7/ports.7 ============================================================================== --- head/share/man/man7/ports.7 Thu Jun 20 19:56:26 2013 (r252041) +++ head/share/man/man7/ports.7 Thu Jun 20 21:16:46 2013 (r252042) @@ -97,7 +97,7 @@ target. Configure .Va OPTIONS for this port using -.Xr dialog 1 . +.Xr dialog4ports 1 . .It Cm fetch Fetch all of the files needed to build this port from the sites listed in @@ -177,7 +177,7 @@ configured. Configure .Va OPTIONS for this port and all its dependencies using -.Xr dialog 1 . +.Xr dialog4ports 1 . .It Cm fetch-list Show list of files to be fetched in order to build the port. .It Cm fetch-recursive _______________________________________________ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 21 07:22:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1B28A3 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 07:22:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iphonein@ejobsitesoftware.webserversystems.com) Received: from ejobsitesoftware.webserversystems.com (50.22.7.205-static.reverse.softlayer.com [50.22.7.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A4D1E5D for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 07:22:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from iphonein by ejobsitesoftware.webserversystems.com with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Upvg8-0007KM-Qt for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 02:22:40 -0500 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: =?utf-8?B?Xw==?= X-PHP-Script: iphoneindia.com/wp-content/plugins/mains.php for 10.103.156.232, 124.160.194.71 From: =?utf-8?B?0JrQvtC90YHRgtCw0L3RgtC40L0=?= Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 02:22:40 -0500 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ejobsitesoftware.webserversystems.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [571 571] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ejobsitesoftware.webserversystems.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 07:22:47 -0000 Здрaвствyйте! 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From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 21 07:30:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E91DDD for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 07:30:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89D01EE6 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 07:30:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r5L7U0X0054308 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 07:30:00 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id r5L7U0EM054307; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 07:30:00 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 07:30:00 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <201306210730.r5L7U0EM054307@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Jason Helfman Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86CB84B; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 07:20:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgh@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812581E34; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 07:20:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r5L7KgVL054080; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 07:20:42 GMT (envelope-from jgh@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from jgh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id r5L7KgF9054079; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 07:20:42 GMT (envelope-from jgh) Message-Id: <201306210720.r5L7KgF9054079@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 07:20:42 GMT From: Jason Helfman To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.114 Subject: docs/179801: [patch] jdk16 is deprecated, reflect within documentation Cc: java@FreeBSD.org, glewis@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jason Helfman List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 07:30:00 -0000 >Number: 179801 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] jdk16 is deprecated, reflect within documentation >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Jun 21 07:30:00 UTC 2013 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Jason Helfman >Release: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT amd64 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD freefall.freebsd.org 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0 r252008: Wed Jun 19 21:39:58 UTC 2013 peter@freefall.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FREEFALL amd64 >Description: java/jdk16 is gone >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs/java/install.xml =================================================================== --- en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs/java/install.xml (revision 41991) +++ en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs/java/install.xml (working copy) @@ -23,16 +23,6 @@
make install clean

-

Oracle JDK on FreeBSD

- -

This is the effort of the Java FreeBSD porting project. -By the use of patchsets and the JDK source code released by Oracle, -this port builds a native JDK for FreeBSD.

- -

cd /usr/ports/java/jdk16 -
make install clean -

-

Oracle JDK for Linux

This port installs the Java Development Kit from Oracle which was built for Linux. It will run under FreeBSD using the Linux compatibility.

Index: en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.xml =================================================================== --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.xml (revision 41991) +++ en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.xml (working copy) @@ -6981,8 +6981,8 @@ There are several JDKs in the ports collection, from various vendors, and in several versions. If your port must use one of these versions, you can define which one. The - most current version is java/jdk16. + most current version, and &os; default is java/openjdk6. Variables Which May be Set by Ports That Use >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 21 16:16:08 2013 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530876D1; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:16:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-docs@allanjude.com) Received: from mx1.scaleengine.net (beauharnois2.bhs1.scaleengine.net [142.4.218.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341A6185B; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:16:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.1.1.1] (S01060001abad1dea.hm.shawcable.net [50.70.108.129]) (Authenticated sender: allan.jude@scaleengine.com) by mx1.scaleengine.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C57553015E; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:16:05 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <51C47C4C.50508@allanjude.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:16:12 -0400 From: Allan Jude <freebsd-docs@allanjude.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/20.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/179801: [patch] jdk16 is deprecated, reflect within documentation References: <201306210720.r5L7KgF9054079@freefall.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <201306210720.r5L7KgF9054079@freefall.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: java@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project <freebsd-doc.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-doc>, <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-doc@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc>, <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:16:08 -0000 On 2013-06-21 03:20, Jason Helfman wrote: >> Number: 179801 >> Category: docs >> Synopsis: [patch] jdk16 is deprecated, reflect within documentation >> Confidential: no >> Severity: non-critical >> Priority: low >> Responsible: freebsd-doc >> State: open >> Quarter: >> Keywords: >> Date-Required: >> Class: change-request >> Submitter-Id: current-users >> Arrival-Date: Fri Jun 21 07:30:00 UTC 2013 >> Closed-Date: >> Last-Modified: >> Originator: Jason Helfman >> Release: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT amd64 >> Organization: >> Environment: > System: FreeBSD freefall.freebsd.org 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0 r252008: Wed Jun 19 21:39:58 UTC 2013 peter@freefall.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FREEFALL amd64 > > > >> Description: > java/jdk16 is gone >> How-To-Repeat: > >> Fix: > Index: en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs/java/install.xml > =================================================================== > --- en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs/java/install.xml (revision 41991) > +++ en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs/java/install.xml (working copy) > @@ -23,16 +23,6 @@ > <br/>make install clean > </code></p> > > -<h3><a name="jdk">Oracle JDK on FreeBSD</a></h3> > - > -<p>This is the effort of the Java FreeBSD porting project. > -By the use of patchsets and the JDK source code released by Oracle, > -this port builds a native JDK for FreeBSD.</p> > - > -<p><code>cd /usr/ports/java/jdk16 > -<br/>make install clean > -</code></p> > - > <h3><a name="linux-sun-jdk">Oracle JDK for Linux</a></h3> > > <p>This port installs the Java Development Kit from Oracle which was built for Linux. It will run under FreeBSD using the Linux compatibility.</p> > Index: en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.xml > =================================================================== > --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.xml (revision 41991) > +++ en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.xml (working copy) > @@ -6981,8 +6981,8 @@ > <para>There are several JDKs in the ports collection, from > various vendors, and in several versions. If your port must > use one of these versions, you can define which one. The > - most current version is <filename > - role="package">java/jdk16</filename>.</para> > + most current version, and &os; default is <filename > + role="package">java/openjdk6</filename>.</para> > > <table frame="none"> > <title>Variables Which May be Set by Ports That Use >> Release-Note: >> Audit-Trail: >> Unformatted: > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Oracle has EOL'd Java6 http://java.com/en/download/faq/java_6.xml The update they released this Tuesday, Java 6u51 is only available to enterprise customers with support contracts. 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Granted I am not the most engrained = in > FreeBSD procedures, but to me that leads to the "building a kernel" = page.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > While buildworld may not be a declared prereq, something in that = process > "fixes" a missing definition. No matter which distro of 10.0 I tried = to > build it would always exit on a missing prototype for yyparse, but = after > buildworld it just ran to completion. That sounds like a prereq to = me... > Even if it is not, a hint on one or both of the pages that reference > building a kernel, about yyparse failures being fixed by buildworld = would > save people frustration and time. If I was the first to stumble over = this, I > wouldn't have been able to find discussion about it on the web, and = still > wouldn't know how to fix it.=20 >=20 If you read the documentation link that Adam send you specifically on = this page: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/makeworld.html =20 it is demonstrated and advised why things happen: =95 make buildworld This first compiles the new compiler and a few related tools, then uses = the new compiler to compile the rest of the new world. The result ends = up in /usr/obj. =95 make buildkernel This uses the new compiler residing in /usr/obj in order to protect = against compiler-kernel mismatches. if you upgrade from x to y (9 to 10 in this case) you must be sure that = the toolchain and buildtools are up to date, thus you need to make = buildworld even though you do not plan on using it (note that you might get different results = then you might expect, world and kernel needs to be aligned up as = possible to ensure that they understand eachother). There is no need to adjust the documentation for the specific yyparse = step, in the tuture there will be other things that break if people do = not follow the rules described. Thanks Remko --=20 /"\ With kind regards, | remko@elvandar.org \ / Remko Lodder | remko@FreeBSD.org X FreeBSD | = http://www.evilcoder.org / \ The Power to Serve | Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 22 08:20:00 2013 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2A249A for <freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org>; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 08:20:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F3C1192 for <freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org>; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 08:20:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r5M8K08j039651 for <freebsd-doc@freefall.freebsd.org>; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 08:20:00 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id r5M8K0Ra039650; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 08:20:00 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 08:20:00 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <201306220820.r5M8K0Ra039650@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Priit Jrv <priit@cc.ttu.ee> Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4CA046A for <freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org>; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 08:14:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from oldred.freebsd.org (oldred.freebsd.org [8.8.178.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A2F117A for <freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org>; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 08:14:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from oldred.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.6]) by oldred.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r5M8EAlR064800 for <freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org>; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 08:14:10 GMT (envelope-from nobody@oldred.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by oldred.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id r5M8EAIM064799; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 08:14:10 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <201306220814.r5M8EAIM064799@oldred.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 08:14:10 GMT From: Priit Jrv <priit@cc.ttu.ee> To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.1 Subject: docs/179832: manual page of mac_from_text suggests incorrect freeing of mac_t type X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project <freebsd-doc.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-doc>, <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-doc@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc>, <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 08:20:00 -0000 >Number: 179832 >Category: docs >Synopsis: manual page of mac_from_text suggests incorrect freeing of mac_t type >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Jun 22 08:20:00 UTC 2013 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Priit Jrv >Release: 9.1-RELEASE (the problem persists in head/stable) >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD test 9.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE #1: Sat May 11 16:22:59 EEST 2013 root@test:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MACTEST amd64 >Description: manual page of mac_from_text(3) notes that the allocated storage should be freed with free(). I strongly suspect this is incorrect, as the type mac_t points to a structure which itself contains a pointer. It seems this was introduced in svn rev 122777 where "mac_free(3)" was changed to "free(3)". It seems the specific change was meant for the mac_to_text() function call (a char* pointer indeed should be freed with free()). Reported for 9.1-RELEASE but still present in head/stable. >How-To-Repeat: man mac_text >Fix: Replace the text "which must later be freed with free(3)" with "which must later be freed with mac_free(3)". Additionally, it may be useful to mention in the next section that the text pointer allocated by mac_to_text() should be freed with free() - that seems to have been the intent of commit r122777. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: