From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 14 6:10: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f89.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F1F515310 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 06:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zhang_huabin@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 26939 invoked by uid 0); 14 Nov 1999 14:10:01 -0000 Message-ID: <19991114141001.26938.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 202.134.89.193 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 06:10:01 PST X-Originating-IP: [202.134.89.193] From: "Herbert Chang" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Which mail server is the best? qmail, postfix or exim? Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:10:01 CST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I want to install a mail server on FreeBSD. There are many ports of mail server on http://www.freebsd.org/ports/mail.html. I wonder which is the best: qmail, postfix, exim or other? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 14 6:21: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from s01.arpa-canada.net (s01.arpa-canada.net [209.104.122.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D1A14CFB for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 06:21:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@BabCom.ORG) Received: by s01.arpa-canada.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2279AB885; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 09:21:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by s01.arpa-canada.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BFCEE; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 09:21:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 09:21:02 -0500 (EST) From: matt X-Sender: matt@s01.arpa-canada.net To: Herbert Chang Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which mail server is the best? qmail, postfix or exim? In-Reply-To: <19991114141001.26938.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is, of course, a manner of opinion, but I'll be happy to share my expierences. I find qmail terrific for smaller machines or sites, it's functional and has a safe feel to it. However, I've been more happy with postfix in large environments, with potentially a large amount of vhosts needed, it's dynamic and well suited for this task, I run it as my main server, run qmail on the other box though. Both are good choices in my opinion, depending on what you wish to do. Postfix does have the advantage of being more compatible with sendmail based applications then qmail does though. As for exim, I've never used it so I cannot comment. Hope this helps you some. These are soley my personal opinions, so lets not start a debate on mail servers =) Matt On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Herbert Chang wrote: : I want to install a mail server on FreeBSD. There are many ports of mail : server on http://www.freebsd.org/ports/mail.html. I wonder which is the : best: qmail, postfix, exim or other? : : ______________________________________________________ : Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com : : : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org : with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message : -- "If the primates that we came from had known that someday politicians would come out of the...the gene pool, they'd a stayed up in the trees and written evolution off as a bad idea. Hell, I always thought the opposable thumb was overrated." -Sheridan, "A Distant Star" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 14 8:59:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E457115007 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 08:59:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.0.4] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 11n1Pc-00043I-00; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 15:17:52 +0000 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.092 #1) id 11n1Pc-000089-00; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 15:17:52 +0000 Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 15:17:52 +0000 From: Ben Smithurst To: Herbert Chang Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which mail server is the best? qmail, postfix or exim? Message-ID: <19991114151752.B343@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <19991114141001.26938.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <19991114141001.26938.qmail@hotmail.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Herbert Chang wrote: > I want to install a mail server on FreeBSD. There are many ports of mail > server on http://www.freebsd.org/ports/mail.html. I wonder which is the > best: qmail, postfix, exim or other? You do know that Sendmail is included with the default system, don't you? That may be good enough for you. I personally like Exim best, but as someone else said, everyone has different views, and this is a rather "religious" issue. -- Ben Smithurst | PGP: 0x99392F7D ben@scientia.demon.co.uk | key available from keyservers and | ben+pgp@scientia.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 14 12: 8:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt054n7c.san.rr.com (dt054n7c.san.rr.com [24.30.152.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DF81506D for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 12:08:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt054n7c.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03948; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 12:07:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <382F1682.F53F898B@gorean.org> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 12:07:30 -0800 From: Doug Barton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT-0927 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jeffrey J. Libman" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: please ignore this unforgiveable waste of bandwidth testing new mailserver! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jeffrey J. Libman" wrote: > > please ignore this unforgiveable waste of bandwidth testing new mail > server! Sorry, this is unforgivable. NEVER EVER send test messages to a live list. For FreeBSD you can send messages to test@freebsd.org. Doug -- "Welcome to the desert of the real." - Laurence Fishburne as Morpheus, "The Matrix" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 14 12:18:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relax.dreamfire.net (relax.dreamfire.net [207.113.154.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32EAF14CF9 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 12:18:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sean@dreamfire.net) Received: from dreamfire.net (indigo.dreamfire.net [192.168.10.8]) by relax.dreamfire.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3218332 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 12:18:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <382F1922.EB9F58E6@dreamfire.net> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 12:18:42 -0800 From: Sean-Paul Rees Organization: The Dreamfire Solutions Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which mail server is the best? qmail, postfix or exim? References: <19991114141001.26938.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Herbert Chang wrote: > > I want to install a mail server on FreeBSD. There are many ports of mail > server on http://www.freebsd.org/ports/mail.html. I wonder which is the > best: qmail, postfix, exim or other? Definately a religious issue... but I'll still throw my comment in the bowl. I've used and recommend qmail for small/large sites, because of its relative ease to configure and manage. Its license is a bit restrictive however, from what I've heard. I currently use Postfix, and I love it. I didn't need to add 5 different users and groups, just one. It also was fairly easy to setup, and didn't require a third party program listen for it. I haven't used sendmail in ages, because the last time that I did, I got myself rooted. I've heard good things about exim, but haven't taken the time to try it. Cheers, Sean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 14 12:23:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [216.240.39.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E95031529F for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 12:23:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 87283 invoked by uid 100); 14 Nov 1999 20:23:15 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14383.6707.829646.48222@guru.phone.net> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 12:23:15 -0800 (PST) To: "Herbert Chang" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Which mail server is the best? qmail, postfix or exim? In-Reply-To: <19991114141001.26938.qmail@hotmail.com> References: <19991114141001.26938.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 3) "Acadia" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Herbert Chang writes: ;->I want to install a mail server on FreeBSD. There are many ports of mail ;->server on http://www.freebsd.org/ports/mail.html. I wonder which is the ;->best: qmail, postfix, exim or other? It depends on what you want it to do, and what your preferences are - and religion, of course. I use qmail, but I don't run a major mail hub. I find it easy to configure, and think the architecture (lots of processes talking on pipes) plays to Unix's strong suit. I have also been bitten by the technical problems with the Unix mailbox format enough to like the idea of using one that doesn't have those problems. The major drawback is that it is a thing unto itself. Converting an existing sendmail site with lots of lists & the like is a PITA. It also uses it's own mailbox format that many mailreaders can't deal with. Getting the qmail pop server up and running solves a lot of the latter, though. ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 13:01:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from greg@bogslab.ucdavis.edu) Received: from deal1.bogs.org (deal1.bogs.org [198.137.203.51]) by bogslab.ucdavis.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23415 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 13:01:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from deal1.bogs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deal1.bogs.org (8.8.8/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA02401 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 13:01:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911142101.NAA02401@deal1.bogs.org> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: making music cds on fbsd 3.2 Reply-To: gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 13:01:06 -0800 From: Greg Shenaut Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I know nothing about making music cds, but I want to be able to do this for some amateur dance groups I am associated with. This is basically putting together audio from various sources and copying them onto a cd for the purpose of rehearsing and performing. Can this even be done under freebsd? I would prefer not to have to get a bunch of windows-specific software and hardware if I don't have to. What software can be used for this? What hardware? I have SCSI disks, tapedrives, and scanner, so SCSI would be OK, or IDE, of course. Would the same hardware and software also be usable to make CD-ROMs? (I'm sorry to be asking such a basic question, but I really know nothing and want some advice that's free of commercial hype.) -Greg Shenaut To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 14 13:14: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (ha1.rdc1.wa.home.com [24.0.2.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980E014C99 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 13:13:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from johnmpurser@home.com) Received: from C37259A ([24.9.57.64]) by mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <19991114211352.HYNV1594.mail.rdc1.wa.home.com@C37259A>; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 13:13:52 -0800 Reply-To: From: "John Purser" To: "'Mike Meyer'" , "'Herbert Chang'" Cc: Subject: RE: Which mail server is the best? qmail, postfix or exim? Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 13:12:36 -0800 Message-ID: <000001bf2ee4$fa61d540$40390918@vncvr1.wa.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <14383.6707.829646.48222@guru.phone.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is more of a reference than an opinion. When I was using US West as an ISP I believe they were using qmail as a mail server. I think I saw something in the mail header that caused me to come to this conclusion. I can't recall a single instance of a mail service outage while I used them. I'm not sure what their user base is but I'd think that it said something about qmail's ability to handle the load. John Purser -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mike Meyer Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 12:23 PM To: Herbert Chang Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Which mail server is the best? qmail, postfix or exim? Herbert Chang writes: ;->I want to install a mail server on FreeBSD. There are many ports of mail ;->server on http://www.freebsd.org/ports/mail.html. I wonder which is the ;->best: qmail, postfix, exim or other? It depends on what you want it to do, and what your preferences are - and religion, of course. I use qmail, but I don't run a major mail hub. I find it easy to configure, and think the architecture (lots of processes talking on pipes) plays to Unix's strong suit. I have also been bitten by the technical problems with the Unix mailbox format enough to like the idea of using one that doesn't have those problems. The major drawback is that it is a thing unto itself. Converting an existing sendmail site with lots of lists & the like is a PITA. It also uses it's own mailbox format that many mailreaders can't deal with. Getting the qmail pop server up and running solves a lot of the latter, though. ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 14:50:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jon@jons.org) Received: from EXODUS (exodus.internal.inetking.com [192.168.0.4]) by gateway.internal.inetking.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA09343 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 14:52:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jon@jons.org) From: "Jon Christopherson" To: Subject: Threading support for tcl Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 15:53:14 -0800 Message-ID: <000b01bf2efb$6a53a980$0400a8c0@internal.inetking.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01BF2EB8.5C31F020" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BF2EB8.5C31F020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hiya all, I am currently installing tcl/tk on my server running 3.3-STABLE, it has an option to install a threaded ver of the source by using -lpthread(wich i thought would utilize the SMP kernel better). But tcl doesnt know how to find the threading libs on my system. The configure script comes up with an error when i use --enable-threads. Is there anything i have to do to enable this function? or is it part of the base installation ? any help would be appreciated. Other revelent info : TCL ver is 8.2.2. Thanks, Jon Christopherson jon@jons.org ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BF2EB8.5C31F020 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
   =20 Hiya all,
 
        I = am=20 currently installing tcl/tk on my server running 3.3-STABLE, it has an = option to=20 install a threaded ver of the source by using -lpthread(wich i thought=20 would utilize the SMP kernel better). But tcl doesnt know how to = find the=20 threading libs on my system. The configure script comes up with an error = when i=20 use --enable-threads. Is there anything i have to do to enable this = function? or=20 is it part of the base installation ? any help would be appreciated. = Other=20 revelent info : TCL ver is 8.2.2.
 
       =20 Thanks,
 
        = Jon=20 Christopherson
        jon@jons.org
 
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BF2EB8.5C31F020-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 14 14:51:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kremvax.demos.su (kremvax.demos.su [194.87.0.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F5115311 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 14:51:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sinbin.demos.su!yormungandr.demos.su!mishania@kremvax.demos.su) Received: by kremvax.demos.su (8.6.13/D) from 0@sinbin.demos.su [194.87.5.31] with ESMTP id BAA15817; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:51:11 +0300 Received: from yormungandr.demos.su by sinbin.demos.su with ESMTP id BAA43972; (8.6.12/D) Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:50:41 +0300 Received: (from mishania@localhost) by yormungandr.demos.su (8.9.3/8.9.2) id BAA12623; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:50:52 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from mishania) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:50:52 +0300 From: "Mikhail A. Sokolov" To: gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: making music cds on fbsd 3.2 Message-ID: <19991115015052.A12341@demos.su> References: <199911142101.NAA02401@deal1.bogs.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <199911142101.NAA02401@deal1.bogs.org> X-Point-of-View: Gravity is myth, - the earth sucks. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Nov 14, 1999 at 01:01:06PM -0800, Greg Shenaut wrote: # What software can be used for this? What hardware? I have SCSI # disks, tapedrives, and scanner, so SCSI would be OK, or IDE, of # course. # # Would the same hardware and software also be usable to make CD-ROMs? Any hardware , which is supported by sysutils/cdrecord or audio/cdrdao will do, which makes it almost any hardware. # (I'm sorry to be asking such a basic question, but I really know # nothing and want some advice that's free of commercial hype.) Should be in -questions, really. # # -Greg Shenaut -- -mishania To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 14 16:44:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from techpower.net (techpower.net [205.133.231.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643B714C97 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 16:44:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hometeam@techpower.net) Received: from localhost (hometeam@localhost) by techpower.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA09105 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 20:48:10 GMT (envelope-from hometeam@techpower.net) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 20:48:10 +0000 (GMT) From: hometeam Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: bind 8 lastest port In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bind 8 lastest ports will not compile. md5 don't appear to match. will not make with no-checksum also. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 14 19:38:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sanson.reyes.somos.net (freyes.static.inch.com [207.240.212.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F8A14E22 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 19:38:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Received: from tomasa (tomasa.reyes.somos.net [10.0.0.11]) by sanson.reyes.somos.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA01967 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:35:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Message-Id: <199911150335.WAA01967@sanson.reyes.somos.net> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:35:29 -0500 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows 98 (4.10.1998) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: sysinstall not installing XFree Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to install XFree. From sysinstall I first tried to install from ftp. I used a custom distribution and selected all the components I wanted from Xfree, selected FTP as media and tried commit. I got a blue screen for about 30 seconds and then it asked if I wanted to go to the configuration screen. Tried to install from the 3.3 release. After it complained it didn't match I instructed it to use the Cd anyway. I got the same a blue screen and the question about the configuration screen. I am trying to install from ports, but it would have been much simpler/easier/quicker if I could have installed from the CD. Even if the CD didn't have the latest version I would have preferred that. Is the sysinstall on stable looking for a newer version of XFree than the one in 3.3 CD? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 14 19:39: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sand2.sentex.ca (sand2.sentex.ca [209.167.248.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE2B14EB5 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 19:39:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from gravel (ospf-mdt.sentex.net [205.211.164.81]) by sand2.sentex.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA26806; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:38:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.1.19991114223909.048995a0@granite.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtancsa@granite.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:39:47 -0500 To: hometeam From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: bind 8 lastest port Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 03:48 PM 11/14/99 , hometeam wrote: > >Bind 8 lastest ports will not compile. md5 don't appear to match. >will not make with no-checksum also. Are you sure the copy of bind-src.tgz in /usr/ports/distfiles is the one you want ? Try deleted it and let the port re-fetch it. ---Mike ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa, Network Admin * mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications Corp, * http://www.sentex.net/mike Cambridge, Ontario * 01.519.651.3400 Canada * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 14 19:42:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from iclub.nsu.ru (iclub.nsu.ru [193.124.222.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D344414F26 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 19:42:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Received: from localhost (fjoe@localhost) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA45221; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:41:58 +0600 (NS) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:41:58 +0600 (NS) From: Max Khon To: gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: making music cds on fbsd 3.2 In-Reply-To: <199911142101.NAA02401@deal1.bogs.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, there! On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Greg Shenaut wrote: > What software can be used for this? What hardware? I have SCSI > disks, tapedrives, and scanner, so SCSI would be OK, or IDE, of > course. cdrdao reads DA/writes cd's in DAO perfectly (for me) Use can also use tosha to grab audio. /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 14 21:54:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF72E14CAD for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 21:54:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA78435; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 21:53:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 21:53:22 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=B6=B3=B9q=A4=A7=AD=B7_Michael_Wu?= Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installworld fails repeatedly In-Reply-To: <000f01bf2e06$3de89f40$5ad1c026@keichii> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't know why this is trying to execute the sh shell instead of installing it. But you could go to /usr/src/bin/sh and do make install, which will probably install the sh shell for you successfully.=20 Whether or not that works, you could use the -m switch to make, which allows it to continue in spite of errors. If you do this you should definitely create a log file to read later, to see what other errors occurred. make -m installworld >& install.out& (for some shells--csh, tcsh, zsh--not for sh or bash though) You might try it first without the -j switch; I don't think that's going to do much for you in this case anyway. Annelise On Sat, 13 Nov 1999, =B6=B3=B9q=A4=A7=AD=B7 Michael Wu wrote: > Hi guys, >=20 > I was rebuilding a box completely and did a > clean install. [format hd then FTPed] > I installed 3.3-release successfully. Thereafter, > I immediately installed > cvsup-bin via /stand/sysinstall and supped > 3.3-stable. > I edited /etc/make.conf to remove -O2 optimization > and to have option NOSENDMAIL > I do make -j4 buildworld, which completes fine and > happy. >=20 > When I do make -j4 installworld, I keep getting > the following error: > This problem is repeatable and I have done several > complete reinstalls. > The box is an old pentium100mhz, brand new 64mb > ram and brand new 2gb hd > The same configuration has been running 3.3-stable > before, I just wanted to make it more secure. > I would appreciate any help that comes my way. > Thank you >=20 > /usr/share/man/man1/red.1.gz -> > /usr/share/man/man1/ed.1.gz > /bin/red -> /bin/ed > =3D=3D=3D> bin/expr > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 expr /bin > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 expr.1.gz > /usr/share/man/man1 > =3D=3D=3D> bin/hostname > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 hostname > /bin > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 hostname.1.gz > /usr/share/man/man1 > =3D=3D=3D> bin/kill > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 kill /bin > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 kill.1.gz > /usr/share/man/man1 > =3D=3D=3D> bin/ln > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 ln /bin > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 ln.1.gz > /usr/share/man/man1 > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 symlink.7.gz > /usr/share/man/man7 > =3D=3D=3D> bin/ls > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 ls /bin > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 ls.1.gz > /usr/share/man/man1 > =3D=3D=3D> bin/mkdir > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 mkdir /bin > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 mkdir.1.gz > /usr/share/man/man1 > =3D=3D=3D> bin/mv > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 mv /bin > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 mv.1.gz > /usr/share/man/man1 > =3D=3D=3D> bin/pax > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 pax /bin > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 pax.1.gz > /usr/share/man/man1 > =3D=3D=3D> bin/ps > install -c -s -o root -g kmem -m 2555 ps /bin > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 ps.1.gz > /usr/share/man/man1 > =3D=3D=3D> bin/pwd > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 pwd /bin > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 pwd.1.gz > /usr/share/man/man1 > =3D=3D=3D> bin/rcp > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 4555 -fschg rcp > /bin > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 rcp.1.gz > /usr/share/man/man1 > =3D=3D=3D> bin/rm > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 rm /bin > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 rm.1.gz > /usr/share/man/man1 > =3D=3D=3D> bin/rmdir > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 rmdir /bin > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 rmdir.1.gz > /usr/share/man/man1 > =3D=3D=3D> bin/sh > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 sh /bin > Could not execute shell > *** Error code 1 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Michael Chin-Yuan Wu > =B9]=A4M=B6Q=A4@=B3=CE=A1M=B9=DA=B7Q=B8u=A8}=B9=CF=A1C > Strive for the very best, the outcome is not > important. > FreeBSD - Service Pack FFFF For NT / Ultimate > Patch for Linux > -- >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 15 2:32:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from s01.arpa-canada.net (s01.arpa-canada.net [209.104.122.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178AE14FDF for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 02:32:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@BabCom.ORG) Received: by s01.arpa-canada.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F3245B885; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 05:32:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by s01.arpa-canada.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB1A8E for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 05:32:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 05:32:06 -0500 (EST) From: matt X-Sender: matt@s01.arpa-canada.net To: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: chroot & bind 8.2.2-P5 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I just upgraded bind to 8.2.2-P5, and decided that with the recent problems, I would chroot bind. This went very well, I had no problems after following the directions at http://www.psionic.com/papers/dns/dns-openbsd/ (thanks) named runs well, however- I find that when I kill -HUP named to reload the files, I get "cannot open /etc/named.conf" is this just not observing the chroot? It's funny because I have /etc/named.conf symlink'd to the real file which lives in /var/named/etc/named.conf. I do not quite get it why I can't HUP the nameserver... This is quite an annoying problem. Normally, named is started with: /var/named/named -u bind -g bind -t /var/named I also tried: /var/named/named -c /var/named/etc/named.conf -u bind -g bind -t /var/named and for the hell of it: /var/named/named -c /etc/named.conf -u bind -g bind -t /var/named I only have a problem with a kill -HUP though, other then that it works fine. FYI, /var/named/etc/named.conf is mode 640, owned root:bind. ndc also breaks in a few funny ways, but I can live without it, but named dying on HUP is very annoying. Thanks in advance. Matt -- "If the primates that we came from had known that someday politicians would come out of the...the gene pool, they'd a stayed up in the trees and written evolution off as a bad idea. Hell, I always thought the opposable thumb was overrated." -Sheridan, "A Distant Star" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 15 2:32:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.aye.net (phoenix.aye.net [198.7.192.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 54DF014FE9 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 02:32:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from barrett@phoenix.aye.net) Received: (qmail 4872 invoked by uid 1000); 15 Nov 1999 10:33:16 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Nov 1999 10:33:16 -0000 Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 05:33:16 -0500 (EST) From: Barrett Richardson To: Greg Quinlan Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CPIO message. In-Reply-To: <00cb01bf2d2b$a7261e00$5214010a@swlct.sthames.nhs.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, Greg Quinlan wrote: > cpio: Read error at byte 0 in file ./proc/3250/map, padding with zeros > cpio: File ./proc/3250/etype shrunk by 64 bytes, padding with zeros > cpio: Read error at byte 0 in file ./proc/3249/map, padding with zeros > > While doing a cpio backup the above message appears. > > I know it is the process file system, and that my backup is NOT failing, but > I just can not get rid of the message. > > I have tried: > > cd / > find . \! -name "./proc/*" -depth -print | cpio -oBO /dev/tape -H NEWC > > BUT that still tries to backup the /proc directory.... > > what next? > > > Greg > Name all the filesystems you want to backup on the command line and add -xdev. find . usr var home -xdev -print | cpio -oBO /dev/tape -H NEWC - Barrett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 15 2:35:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from s01.arpa-canada.net (s01.arpa-canada.net [209.104.122.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D53414FDF for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 02:35:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@BabCom.ORG) Received: by s01.arpa-canada.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3E8C7B885; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 05:35:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by s01.arpa-canada.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34FAEE for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 05:35:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 05:35:16 -0500 (EST) From: matt X-Sender: matt@s01.arpa-canada.net To: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: chroot & bind 8.2.2-P5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ARGH, ignore this- It figures I missed the obvious, /var/named was mode 640 owned root:wheel, Oops? Sorry about the wasted e-mail. Matt On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, matt wrote: : : Hello, : I just upgraded bind to 8.2.2-P5, and decided that with the recent : problems, I would chroot bind. This went very well, I had no problems after : following the directions at http://www.psionic.com/papers/dns/dns-openbsd/ : (thanks) named runs well, however- I find that when I kill -HUP named to : reload the files, I get "cannot open /etc/named.conf" is this just not : observing the chroot? It's funny because I have /etc/named.conf symlink'd : to the real file which lives in /var/named/etc/named.conf. I do not quite : get it why I can't HUP the nameserver... This is quite an annoying problem. : : Normally, named is started with: : : /var/named/named -u bind -g bind -t /var/named : : I also tried: : : /var/named/named -c /var/named/etc/named.conf -u bind -g bind -t /var/named : : and for the hell of it: : : /var/named/named -c /etc/named.conf -u bind -g bind -t /var/named : : I only have a problem with a kill -HUP though, other then that it works : fine. FYI, /var/named/etc/named.conf is mode 640, owned root:bind. ndc : also breaks in a few funny ways, but I can live without it, but named : dying on HUP is very annoying. Thanks in advance. : : Matt : -- : "If the primates that we came from had known that someday politicians : would come out of the...the gene pool, they'd a stayed up in the trees : and written evolution off as a bad idea. Hell, I always thought the : opposable thumb was overrated." : -Sheridan, "A Distant Star" : : : : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org : with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message : -- "If the primates that we came from had known that someday politicians would come out of the...the gene pool, they'd a stayed up in the trees and written evolution off as a bad idea. Hell, I always thought the opposable thumb was overrated." -Sheridan, "A Distant Star" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 15 3:11: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tank.skynet.be (tank.skynet.be [195.238.2.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C4F14EFC for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 03:11:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@foxbert.skynet.be) Received: from foxbert.skynet.be (foxbert.skynet.be [195.238.1.45]) by tank.skynet.be (8.9.3/odie-relay-v1.0) with ESMTP id MAA25435; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:10:51 +0100 (MET) Received: (from root@localhost) by foxbert.skynet.be (8.9.1/jovi-pop-2.1) id MAA28092; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:10:47 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@foxbert.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19991114141001.26938.qmail@hotmail.com> References: <19991114141001.26938.qmail@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:08:46 +0100 To: "Herbert Chang" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Which mail server is the best? qmail, postfix or exim? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:10 PM -0600 1999/11/14, Herbert Chang wrote: > I want to install a mail server on FreeBSD. There are many ports of > mail server on http://www.freebsd.org/ports/mail.html. I wonder > which is the best: qmail, postfix, exim or other? As others have noted, this is a bit of a religious issue. However, you may be interested to know that the FreeBSD mailing lists are handled by postfix, and that the folks at pobox.com use postfix as their MTA. In addition, postfix is designed to be as much of a drop-in replacement for sendmail as is feasible, while other MTAs (such as qmail and perhaps exim) are not. -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ____________________________________________________________________ |o| Brad Knowles, Belgacom Skynet NV/SA |o| |o| Systems Architect, News & FTP Admin Rue Col. Bourg, 124 |o| |o| Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.11.11/12.49 B-1140 Brussels |o| |o| http://www.skynet.be Belgium |o| \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 15 7:25:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.vnet.net (smtp2.vnet.net [166.82.1.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B425C1511C for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 07:24:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp2.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA00495 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:24:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12988 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:24:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id KAA03066 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:24:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:24:36 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199911151524.KAA03066@lakes.dignus.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 3.3-RELEASE panics & Linux emu. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If the happy reader recalls - I announced last week that I had solved my panic problems on 3.3-RELEASE (I had suspected a partially built kernel issue...) Well - I just got the panics again; so I suspect that is not the problem. Although, I am able to drop into DDB now and take a look around. I believe the panic is related to Linux emulation, as a Linux program is always what's running for the panic. And - the panic is interesting in that EIP seems to be the culprit. The kernel is branching to 0x80000000... (which doesn't look like a really nice place to jump to.) I'm building a debuggable kernel and will report more info when I have it. - Dave Rivers - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 15 7:48:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.vnet.net (smtp1.vnet.net [166.82.1.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BFDD15065 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 07:48:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp1.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA09766 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:47:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA13029; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:47:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id KAA00386; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:47:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:47:55 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199911151547.KAA00386@lakes.dignus.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, rivers@dignus.com Subject: Re: 3.3-RELEASE panics & Linux emu. In-Reply-To: <199911151524.KAA03066@lakes.dignus.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG More info... With the debug kernel, I get the same panic, but IP is 0x0 instead of 0x8000000. So, we are taking a bad branch (a function ptr is likely not initialized properly?) Unfortunately, DDB's trace command only gives me the panic message... no trace back. So - I'm at a loss to say exactly where this is occuring. Would a knowledgeable kernel debugger care to share some wisdom when debugging things like this - that is - if IP is 0, how do you tell from whence the bad branch came? - Thanks - - Dave Rivers - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 15 8:25:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.scc.nl (node1374.a2000.nl [62.108.19.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75E9914D38 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:25:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@scc.nl) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mail.scc.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA07023 for stable@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:06:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@scc.nl) Received: from GATEWAY by dwarf.hq.scc.nl with netnews for stable@FreeBSD.org (stable@FreeBSD.org) To: stable@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:06:48 +0100 From: Marcel Moolenaar Message-ID: <38302F98.89C9A640@scc.nl> Organization: SCC vof Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199911151524.KAA03066@lakes.dignus.com>, <199911151547.KAA00386@lakes.dignus.com> Subject: Re: 3.3-RELEASE panics & Linux emu. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas David Rivers wrote: > With the debug kernel, I get the same panic, but IP > is 0x0 instead of 0x8000000. So, we are taking a > bad branch (a function ptr is likely not initialized > properly?) Are your kernel and modules in sync? In other words; do you recompile your modules too when you compile your kernel (or vice versa)? -- Marcel Moolenaar mailto:marcel@scc.nl SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ The FreeBSD project mailto:marcel@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 15 8:43:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from luna.lyris.net (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5270714BDD for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:43:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kip@lyris.com) Received: from luna.shelby.com by luna.lyris.net (8.9.1b+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id IAA23527; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:43:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by luna.shelby.com with SMTP (MailShield v1.50); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:43:31 -0700 Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:43:31 -0800 (PST) From: Kip Macy X-Sender: kip@luna To: Jon Christopherson Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Threading support for tcl In-Reply-To: <000b01bf2efb$6a53a980$0400a8c0@internal.inetking.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-SMTP-HELO: luna X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: kip@lyris.com X-SMTP-RCPT-TO: jon@jons.org,stable@freebsd.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Go into the Makefile where you see: LIBS = $(MATH_LIBS) -lc change it to be: LIBS = $(MATH_LIBS) -pthread On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Jon Christopherson wrote: > Hiya all, > > I am currently installing tcl/tk on my server running 3.3-STABLE, it > has an option to install a threaded ver of the source by > using -lpthread(wich i thought would utilize the SMP kernel better). But tcl > doesnt know how to find the threading libs on my system. The configure > script comes up with an error when i use --enable-threads. Is there anything > i have to do to enable this function? or is it part of the base installation > ? any help would be appreciated. Other revelent info : TCL ver is 8.2.2. > > Thanks, > > Jon Christopherson > jon@jons.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 15 9:13:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.vnet.net (smtp1.vnet.net [166.82.1.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B6F14BF1 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:13:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp1.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA01564 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:13:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13166 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:13:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id MAA01202 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:13:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:13:18 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199911151713.MAA01202@lakes.dignus.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: More on my panic... (panic in pmap_pte_quick()) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well - I had a suggestion to recompile the loadable modules. So, I recompiled the linux module with -g. Suddenly, I now can get a traceback from DDB. I'm now getting a panic in pmap_pte_quick() (from pmap.c), with the following traceback: pmap_pte_quick()+12 pmap_ts_referenced() vm_pageout_page_stats() vm_pageout() kproc_start() fork_trampoline() The particular instruction is: movl 0(%edx,%eax,4),%ecx and %edx is the bad address, (%eax has 0x23...) I believe comes from the line (since we're only at offset +12): if (pde = (unsigned) pmap->pm_pdir[va >> PDRSHIFT]) { that is, the pmap parm to pmap_pte_quick seems to be bad. This pmap parm comes from Queue pointed to by ppv; which comes from pa_to_pvh(pa) - pa was passed in... Has anyone seen anything like this? - Dave Rivers - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 15 11:31: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.swlct.sthames.nhs.uk (hide14.nhs.uk [194.6.81.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B1B914BDA for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:30:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from greg@swlct.sthames.nhs.uk) Received: from greg.swlct.sthames.nhs.uk (qmh-00553.qmpgmc.ac.uk [10.1.20.82]) by amanda.swlct.sthames.nhs.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA57992 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:30:09 GMT Message-ID: <002801bf2fa0$c44cbee0$5214010a@swlct.sthames.nhs.uk> From: "Greg Quinlan" To: Subject: Slapd (LDAP) Problems Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:36:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG HELP!!!! I am trying desperately to get Ldap to work... (/usr/ports/net/ldap) I have set up a database with the tools for "slapd". # dif2ldbm -i myfile Where "myfile" contains simple set-up info (see below -: ldbmcat) ... and have verified that there are entries in the LDAP database but when I use a search, i.e.. # ldapsearch -v "cn=Greg Quinlan" The search returns: ldap_open( localhost, 389 ) filter pattern: cn=Greg Quinlan returning: ALL filter is: (cn=Greg Quinlan) 0 matches When I look at the database entries I can see the entries. # ldbmcat /usr/tmp/id2entry.dbb 1 dn: o=South West London Community NHS Trust, c=UK o: South West London Community NHS Trust objectclass: organization 2 dn: cn=Greg Quinlan, o=South West London Community NHS Trust, c=UK cn: Greg Quinlan sn: Quinlan mail: Greg.Quinlan@swlct.sthames.nhs.uk objectclass: person WHAT AM I DOING WRONG? Thanks Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 15 12:16:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.swlct.sthames.nhs.uk (hide14.nhs.uk [194.6.81.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91BBD150C8 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:16:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from greg@swlct.sthames.nhs.uk) Received: from greg.swlct.sthames.nhs.uk (qmh-00553.qmpgmc.ac.uk [10.1.20.82]) by amanda.swlct.sthames.nhs.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA00776; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:15:30 GMT Message-ID: <001901bf2fa7$238313e0$5214010a@swlct.sthames.nhs.uk> From: "Greg Quinlan" To: "Alan Edmonds" Cc: References: <002801bf2fa0$c44cbee0$5214010a@plano.sterling.com> <38306506.EEEA7004@plano.sterling.com> Subject: Re: Slapd (LDAP) Problems Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:22:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks Alan, but it did not work... Eventually I want to be able to query the database from Muckrow-softs Outlook Express.... but I have got to get something going first.... Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Edmonds To: Greg Quinlan Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 7:54 PM Subject: Re: Slapd (LDAP) Problems > I've always had to specify the search root with ldapsearch. ie. > > ldapsearch -b'o=South West London Community NHS Trust, c=UK' -v "cn=Greg Quinlan" > > At least that works for me. > > Greg Quinlan wrote: > > > > HELP!!!! > > > > I am trying desperately to get Ldap to work... (/usr/ports/net/ldap) > > > > I have set up a database with the tools for "slapd". > > # dif2ldbm -i myfile > > > > Where "myfile" contains simple set-up info (see below -: ldbmcat) > > ... and have verified that there are entries in the LDAP database but when I > > use a search, i.e.. > > > > # ldapsearch -v "cn=Greg Quinlan" > > > > The search returns: > > > > ldap_open( localhost, 389 ) > > filter pattern: cn=Greg Quinlan > > returning: ALL > > filter is: (cn=Greg Quinlan) > > 0 matches > > > > When I look at the database entries I can see the entries. > > > > # ldbmcat /usr/tmp/id2entry.dbb > > 1 > > dn: o=South West London Community NHS Trust, c=UK > > o: South West London Community NHS Trust > > objectclass: organization > > > > 2 > > dn: cn=Greg Quinlan, o=South West London Community NHS Trust, c=UK > > cn: Greg Quinlan > > sn: Quinlan > > mail: Greg.Quinlan@swlct.sthames.nhs.uk > > objectclass: person > > > > WHAT AM I DOING WRONG? > > > > Thanks > > > > Greg > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > Alan Edmonds, KB5ZUY Sterling Software > M/S 132 > Phone: +1-972-801-6485 5800 Tennyson Pkwy. > Email: alan.edmonds@sterling.com Plano, TX, USA 75024 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 15 14:39:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from melete.ch.intel.com (melete.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B10C614A2A; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 14:39:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by melete.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.11 1999/11/10 17:27:15 spurcell Exp $) with ESMTP id WAA18592; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 22:38:55 GMT Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.8 1999/04/16 15:25:49 steved Exp steved $) with ESMTP id PAA01902; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:39:06 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id RAA12819; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:39:31 -0500 (EST) From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14384.35745.665089.165594@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:39:29 -0700 (MST) To: Doug Barton Cc: "Jeffrey J. Libman" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please ignore this unforgiveable waste of bandwidth testing new mailserver! In-Reply-To: <382F1682.F53F898B@gorean.org> References: <382F1682.F53F898B@gorean.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Sunday, November 14, Doug Barton wrote: ] > "Jeffrey J. Libman" wrote: > > > > please ignore this unforgiveable waste of bandwidth testing new mail > > server! > > Sorry, this is unforgivable. NEVER EVER send test messages to a live > list. For FreeBSD you can send messages to test@freebsd.org. > > Doug We should probably list the fact that this "test" list exists on the website and in the handbook. The last time I did the above (and was flamed accordingly ;-) I looked to find any trace of "test@freebsd.org for testing your setups" in any piece of docs and couldn't find it. If nobody has time to edit the appropriate sections, I'll just place this on my "todo" list (ever-expanding of course :) and eventually send in a patch to -doc. But, the point is this freebsd-test@freebsd.org list isn't well advertised. -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds CEG, CCE, Next Generation Flows, HLA | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 15 14:52:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C8914A2A; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 14:52:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) id WAA48320; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 22:52:53 GMT (envelope-from joe) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 22:52:53 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Subject: [HEADS UP] Merge of I4B 0.83 to -STABLE Message-ID: <19991115225253.A35604@florence.pavilion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Heads up. I've just upgraded I4B in -STABLE to 0.83. You will no longer need to 'overinstall' I4B 0.83 after synchronising with the 3.X branch. This change was made primarily to enable userland PPPoISDN support. Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 15 16: 5:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web501.yahoomail.com (web501.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4ABD014BD0 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:05:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luke_bakken@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19991116000505.5335.rocketmail@web501.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.53.138.34] by web501.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:05:05 PST Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:05:05 -0800 (PST) From: Luke Bakken Subject: CD-ROM woes!!! To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hello, i asked a question regarding the CD installation on my ASUS P3B-F a while ago that i solved. it was rebooting on installation, and the fix was a new BIOS. now i'm trying to install the sources for the kernel, and i'm getting the same peoblem. when i use sysinstall, it reboots. if i use sh install.sh sys, it reboots. i really don't know what's going on now, since i figured the BIOS fix would help. once again, the setup: ASUS P3B-F, rev 1004, 96M RAM, FreeBSD3.3, ATAPI CD-ROM, Fujitsu Hard Drive, ATI Rage Pro 3D card. any suggestions? thanks a million, luke ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 15 18: 7: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from atlantis.corbe.net (surf1083.pompano.net [24.129.31.183]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F076514C43 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:06:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from corbe@corbe.net) Received: from localhost (corbe@localhost) by atlantis.corbe.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA02991 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:06:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from corbe@corbe.net) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:06:33 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Corbe To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Sound Card Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anyone ever have any luck configuring an ESS 1688 (not a 1868) in FreeBSD? The card isn't plug and play so I know it should be fairly straight forward. I've read the documentation in /sys/i386/isa/sound and I've read the pcm manual page and so far these are the steps I've taken: controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 conflicts when that failed to work I tried the pcm driver two different ways (after commenting out the VoxWare drivers of course): device pcm0 at isa? port 0x220 tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 when that didn't work: device pcm0 at isa? port ? tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 and tried using the USERCONFIG editor to configure it as if it were a PnP device. in all I've recompiled my kernel a total of 17 times today and I just can't get the sound card to initialize in FreeBSD. Any suggestions? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 15 18:16:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.vnet.net (smtp1.vnet.net [166.82.1.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F0D14E1E for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:16:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp1.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA02986 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:16:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA13898 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:16:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id VAA00423 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:16:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:16:06 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199911160216.VAA00423@lakes.dignus.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Help for the weary? (SCSI CDROM issues) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Perhaps this should go to -questions; I'm not sure. I'm trying to install 3.3-RELEASE on a new system I'm putting together. I've got a SONY CRX140S (on sale at CompUSA last week) - it's supposed to be a nice SCSI CD-RW. I'm putting this on an ASUS P2B-DS; which has an on-board Adaptec AIX-7890 Ultra2 SCSI. Ok - that's all well and good. And, in fact, the CD-ROM boots up the kernel just great! I partition/label the disk, etc... no problems. Then, it comes time to do the installation and... I hop over to VTY-2 to see what's going on and I see a lot of cpio messages about "Junk" being skipped (instead of the expected file names scrolling by.) I take this to mean that I'm not reading the CDROM correctly. I tested the CD-ROM on an existing aha-2940 system - works great. This system has SCSI connections on board: 1) 68-pin Wide SCSI connector 2) 50-pin Narrow SCSI connector 3) 68-pin Ultra2 SCSI connector Of course - the 50-pin is what's running to the CD-ROM, with connector #1 (68-pin Wide) running to the SCSI disk. That's all the SCSI connections I've got... I've tried just about every permutation of SCSI termination I can... So - my question to the -stable list: 1) Has anyone installed 3.3-RELEASE on this motherboard (the doc is dated July, 1999 - so it may be too new.) 2) Is there something `funky' about the SCSI connectors I need to be aware of - for instance, you can't have both a wide and narrow bus running at once, or something disappointing like that. - Thanks! - - Dave Rivers - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 15 20: 5: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id D321415264; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:04:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22BE1CD436; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:04:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@hub.freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:04:53 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: Mike Meyer Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. In-Reply-To: <14380.47942.986074.382586@guru.phone.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, Mike Meyer wrote: > But that's the wrong question. Part of the install process includes > selecting packages to load. That's all nice & user-friendly & > GUI-ish. The question is: can I set PREFIX for packages that are > installed at that point? No, because the GUI tool is intended for people who are not comfortable or capable with the command-line. If you want to do something advanced like hand-tune which filesystem hierarchy your packages get installed, you have to do it the old-fashioned way. Adding a knob to sysinstall asking people where they want to install the package would only confuse the primary target demographic of sysinstall, newish system users, for whom /usr/local is likely to be quite adequate. You seem to be very much in a minority of people who are unhappy with the /usr/local system..given that there exists a simple way for you to get what you want (see below), it's not reasonable to ask FreeBSD to reorganise around you. > For that matter, if those packages have references to things in > /usr/include and I do "pkg_add -p /usr/pkg" - what happens to those > references? David already answered this one. Packages, by necessity, often need to have some hardcoded prefix in them. If you don't like the default, you're free to build the port by hand by doing cd /usr/ports/foo/bar && make install PREFIX=/usr/mumble. Ports which don't allow this are broken and must be send-pr'ed so we can fix them. Vague complaints don't count :-) Kris ---- Cthulhu for President! For when you're tired of choosing the _lesser_ of two evils.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 15 20: 9: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [216.240.39.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3759C14C9C for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:08:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 30027 invoked by uid 100); 16 Nov 1999 04:08:57 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14384.55513.350588.305393@guru.phone.net> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:08:57 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. In-Reply-To: References: <14380.47942.986074.382586@guru.phone.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 3) "Acadia" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway writes: ;->David already answered this one. Packages, by necessity, often need to ;->have some hardcoded prefix in them. If you don't like the default, you're ;->free to build the port by hand by doing cd /usr/ports/foo/bar && make ;->install PREFIX=/usr/mumble. Ports which don't allow this are broken and ;->must be send-pr'ed so we can fix them. Vague complaints don't count :-) The next time I upgrade all/most of my ports, I'll probably point them at something else. Then fix and send-pr (with patches, of course) anything that doesn't work properly that way. Of course, if the tool in question is something that comes in binary, I'm pretty much scrod. ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:43:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dchapman@houabg.com) Received: from houcbs2.houabg.com (HOUABG.COM [206.109.247.20]) by minubian.houabg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA25314 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:15:38 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dchapman@houabg.com) Received: from 216-118-18-135.pdq.net by houcbs2.houabg.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id SG16T625; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 22:43:34 -0600 Message-ID: <003201bf2fed$2d81d020$0300a8c0@poseiden.org> From: "David W. Chapman Jr." To: "FreeBSD Stable" Subject: PROMISE IDE Ultra66 Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 22:43:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01BF2FBA.E282AAE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BF2FBA.E282AAE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I installed a promise ide ultra66 and freebsd-3.3 stable doesn't even = see it. Its on irq 15, the onboard controllers are disable and it will = try to load the kernel and then can't find the controller and complains = that it can't change to root. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BF2FBA.E282AAE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I installed a promise ide ultra66 and = freebsd-3.3=20 stable doesn't even see it.  Its on irq 15, the onboard controllers = are=20 disable and it will try to load the kernel and then can't find the = controller=20 and complains that it can't change to root.
------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BF2FBA.E282AAE0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 15 22:52:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB3C14CC2 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 22:52:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA85455; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 22:50:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 22:50:19 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson To: Herbert Chang Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to disable sendmail on autoboot? In-Reply-To: <19991113122042.86314.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 13 Nov 1999, Herbert Chang wrote: > When FreeBSD boot, default it will start sendmail. > How to disable this? The following line is from /etc/defaults/rc.conf: sendmail_enable="YES" # Run the sendmail daemon (or NO). Copy it to /etc/rc.conf and change YES to NO Annelise To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 15 23: 4:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [192.83.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F053514C24 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:04:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA13529; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:04:36 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA18216; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:04:35 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199911160704.SAA18216@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: Annelise Anderson Cc: Herbert Chang , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to disable sendmail on autoboot? In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 15 Nov 1999 22:50:19 -0800. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:04:34 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Copy it to /etc/rc.conf and change YES to NO If by this you mean "copy /etc/defaults/rc.conf to /etc/rc.conf" - this is not a good idea. The system will not boot ("out of file descriptors" from infinitely recursing rc.conf scripts.) just add the relevent line ('sendmail_enable="NO"' in this case) to /etc/ rc.conf and leave the default one alone. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 15 23:30: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DAEF14C9C for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:30:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA06173; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:27:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:27:56 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson To: Gregory Bond Cc: Herbert Chang , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to disable sendmail on autoboot? In-Reply-To: <199911160704.SAA18216@lightning.itga.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I referred to "this line" and said "copy it." I thought that would be clear. I certainly did not mean to tell him to copy the entire file, and I hope he did not understand it this way. I did intend, however, to tell him one place he could look to solve similar problems in the future--/etc/defaults/rc.conf. This is in my view a better response than just providing a line to put in /etc/rc.conf that seems to come from nowhere. Anyway, the question should have been sent to -questions. Annelise On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Gregory Bond wrote: > > Copy it to /etc/rc.conf and change YES to NO > > If by this you mean "copy /etc/defaults/rc.conf to /etc/rc.conf" - this is not > a good idea. The system will not boot ("out of file descriptors" from > infinitely recursing rc.conf scripts.) > > just add the relevent line ('sendmail_enable="NO"' in this case) to /etc/ > rc.conf and leave the default one alone. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 0:48: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hcshh.hcs.de (hcshh.hcs.de [194.123.40.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AB4D0151D3; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:48:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hm@hcs.de) Received: from hcswork.hcs.de([192.76.124.5]) (1454 bytes) by hcshh.hcs.de via sendmail with P:smtp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:48:01 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Dec-11) Received: by hcswork.hcs.de (Postfix, from userid 200) id 7345A38E2; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:48:00 +0100 (MET) Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] Merge of I4B 0.83 to -STABLE In-Reply-To: <19991115225253.A35604@florence.pavilion.net> from Josef Karthauser at "Nov 15, 99 10:52:53 pm" To: joe@pavilion.net (Josef Karthauser) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:48:00 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: hm@hcs.de Organization: HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 524 Message-Id: <19991116084800.7345A38E2@hcswork.hcs.de> From: hm@hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From the keyboard of Josef Karthauser: > I've just upgraded I4B in -STABLE to 0.83. > > You will no longer need to 'overinstall' I4B 0.83 after synchronising with > the 3.X branch. Thanks a lot, Joe! hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis Tel +49 40 559747-70 HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH Fax +49 40 559747-77 Oldesloer Strasse 97-99 Mail hm [at] hcs.de 22457 Hamburg WWW http://www.hcs.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 2:21:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.swlct.sthames.nhs.uk (hide14.nhs.uk [194.6.81.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8D314CAC for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 02:21:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from greg@swlct.sthames.nhs.uk) Received: from greg.swlct.sthames.nhs.uk (qmh-00553.qmpgmc.ac.uk [10.1.20.82]) by amanda.swlct.sthames.nhs.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA30806 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:20:56 GMT Message-ID: <008101bf301d$3bbead40$5214010a@swlct.sthames.nhs.uk> From: "Greg Quinlan" To: References: <002801bf2fa0$c44cbee0$5214010a@swlct.sthames.nhs.uk> <199911152230.XAA13193@oddbjorn.bdc.no> Subject: Re: Slapd (LDAP) Problems Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:27:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks ALAN, THOMAS, ODDBJORN, HANS for your responses, end result: /usr/ports/net/ldap.............DOES NOT WORK! /usr/ports/net/openldap......WORKS WELL! So I think it would be in everyone's interest if the old 'ldap' was deleted from the ports directory, because as was clearly pointed-out it is "old" and been superseded by openldap!!! And in response to the question, why wasn't I using openldap, well, when I went looking, I found "~/ldap". I thought "~/ldap" was LDAP, I did not know "openldap" was LDAP working/current/correct version, of course! Thanks Again Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 2:45:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.webmaster.com (mail.webmaster.com [209.133.28.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6E7151E5 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 02:45:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from davids@webmaster.com) Received: from whenever ([209.133.29.2]) by shell.webmaster.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 02:45:54 -0800 From: "David Schwartz" To: "Greg Quinlan" , Subject: RE: Slapd (LDAP) Problems Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 02:45:54 -0800 Message-ID: <000001bf301f$c1c955a0$021d85d1@youwant.to> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <008101bf301d$3bbead40$5214010a@swlct.sthames.nhs.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The distribution requirements for openldap are much more restrictive than those for the old ldap. I'd hate to see the more retricted one replace the freer one. DS > Thanks > > ALAN, THOMAS, ODDBJORN, HANS > > for your responses, end result: > > /usr/ports/net/ldap.............DOES NOT WORK! > > /usr/ports/net/openldap......WORKS WELL! > > So I think it would be in everyone's interest if the old 'ldap' > was deleted > from the ports directory, because as was clearly pointed-out it > is "old" and > been superseded by openldap!!! > > And in response to the question, why wasn't I using openldap, well, when I > went looking, I found "~/ldap". I thought "~/ldap" was LDAP, I > did not know > "openldap" was LDAP working/current/correct version, of course! > > Thanks Again > > > Greg > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 5:48:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.swlct.sthames.nhs.uk (hide14.nhs.uk [194.6.81.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A48614D05 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 05:48:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from greg@swlct.sthames.nhs.uk) Received: from greg.swlct.sthames.nhs.uk (qmh-00553.qmpgmc.ac.uk [10.1.20.82]) by amanda.swlct.sthames.nhs.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA37654 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:20:43 GMT Message-ID: <00af01bf3025$955a27a0$5214010a@swlct.sthames.nhs.uk> From: "Greg Quinlan" To: References: <000001bf301f$c1c955a0$021d85d1@youwant.to> Subject: Re: Slapd (LDAP) Problems Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:27:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: David Schwartz > The distribution requirements for openldap are much more restrictive than > those for the old ldap. I'd hate to see the more retricted one replace the > freer one. > > DS > Sorry how so? See: http://www.openldap.org/software/release/license.html The only difference I can see is that the development of openldap, is as its name suggests, "open." That any modifications to the "core standard product" be publicly shared, and properly documented. Selling Openldap as a separate product is also NOT allowed. Selling support, Selling it as part of another product, Selling installation of it.....etc is permitted. Essentially your not allowed to steal-it call it your own!!! This is surely a good thing? Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 6: 2:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw.nectar.com (gw.nectar.com [209.98.143.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3142F14C8B for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 06:02:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nectar@nectar.com) Received: from bone.nectar.com (bone.nectar.com [10.0.0.105]) by gw.nectar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 104EC24360C; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 07:38:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from bone.nectar.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bone.nectar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1361D7A; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 07:39:50 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 X-Exmh-Isig-CompType: repl X-Exmh-Isig-Folder: mlist/freebsd/stable X-PGP-RSAfprint: 00 F9 E6 A2 C5 4D 0A 76 26 8B 8B 57 73 D0 DE EE X-PGP-RSAkey: http://www.nectar.com/nectar-rsa.txt X-PGP-DSSfprint: AB2F 8D71 A4F4 467D 352E 8A41 5D79 22E4 71A2 8C73 X-PGP-DHfprint: 2D50 12E5 AB38 60BA AF4B 0778 7242 4460 1C32 F6B1 X-PGP-DH-DSSkey: http://www.nectar.com/nectar-dh-dss.txt From: Jacques Vidrine To: Annelise Anderson Cc: Herbert Chang , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: References: Subject: Re: How to disable sendmail on autoboot? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 07:39:50 -0600 Message-Id: <19991116133950.1A1361D7A@bone.nectar.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 15 November 1999 at 22:50, Annelise Anderson wrote: > The following line is from /etc/defaults/rc.conf: > > sendmail_enable="YES" # Run the sendmail daemon (or NO). > > Copy it to /etc/rc.conf and change YES to NO ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is bad advice... do _not_ copy /etc/defaults/rc.conf to /etc/rc.conf. Just edit your existing /etc/rc.conf and add the appropriate line. -- Jacques Vidrine / n@nectar.com / nectar@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 6:19:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.vnet.net (smtp1.vnet.net [166.82.1.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2522B14BCE for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 06:19:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp1.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA08832 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:19:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14940 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:19:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id JAA02191 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:19:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:19:48 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199911161419.JAA02191@lakes.dignus.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: ASUS P2B-S and FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is anyone using FreeBSD 3.3 with an ASUS P2B SCSI? I believe this is an AHA 2940U2W "clone" - is that right? If you have been successful with a P2B-DS or P2B-LS, let me know, I _think_ I'm having a difficult time getting SCSI termination correct.... (but...) I didn't think 3.3-RELEASE had any problems with a aha2940u2w... Have people been successful with it? - Thanks - - Dave Rivers - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 7: 3:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E19314CC4 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 07:03:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p27-dn01kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [210.132.6.156]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) with ESMTP id AAA03284; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 00:02:55 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <38317192.3873C806@newsguy.com> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 00:00:34 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=B6=B3=B9q=A4=A7=AD=B7?= Michael Wu Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installworld fails repeatedly References: <000f01bf2e06$3de89f40$5ad1c026@keichii> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "=B6=B3=B9q=A4=A7=AD=B7 Michael Wu" wrote: > = > When I do make -j4 installworld, I keep getting > the following error: installworld target is not paralelizable (sp?). -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org What y'all wanna do? Wanna be hackers? Code crackers? Slackers Wastin' time with all the chatroom yakkers? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 7:18:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gatekeeper.radio-do.de (gatekeeper.Radio-do.de [193.101.164.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E9914DB7 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 07:18:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fn@gatekeeper.radio-do.de) Received: from trinity.radio-do.de (trinity.Radio-do.de [193.101.164.3]) by gatekeeper.radio-do.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 290DCAEEB; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:18:11 +0100 (MET) Received: (from fn@localhost) by trinity.radio-do.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA03980; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:18:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from fn@gatekeeper.radio-do.de) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:18:16 +0100 From: Frank Nobis To: Thomas David Rivers Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ASUS P2B-S and FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE Message-ID: <19991116161816.A3956@radio-do.de> References: <199911161419.JAA02191@lakes.dignus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <199911161419.JAA02191@lakes.dignus.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Thomas, On Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 09:19:48AM -0500, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > > Is anyone using FreeBSD 3.3 with an ASUS P2B SCSI? > I believe this is an AHA 2940U2W "clone" - is that right? > > If you have been successful with a P2B-DS or P2B-LS, let > me know, I _think_ I'm having a difficult time getting > SCSI termination correct.... (but...) > I have a freebsd current running on a P2B-DS without problems so far. I left the termination switched to automatic in the bios setup. If you want my kernel config and a dmesg message output I will sent it to you leaving out the list. Frank -- ~/.signature not found: wellknown error 42 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 7:56:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thoth.mch.sni.de (thoth.mch.sni.de [192.35.17.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E59F114BCE for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 07:56:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer thoth.mch.sni.de) Received: from mail1.siemens.de (mail1.siemens.de [139.23.33.14]) by thoth.mch.sni.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22533 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:56:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.42.7]) by mail1.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24529 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:56:11 +0100 (MET) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA85994 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:56:10 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:56:08 +0100 From: Andre Albsmeier To: Thomas David Rivers Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ASUS P2B-S and FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE Message-ID: <19991116165608.A23703@internal> References: <199911161419.JAA02191@lakes.dignus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <199911161419.JAA02191@lakes.dignus.com>; from rivers@dignus.com on Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 09:19:48AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 16-Nov-1999 at 09:19:48 -0500, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > > Is anyone using FreeBSD 3.3 with an ASUS P2B SCSI? > I believe this is an AHA 2940U2W "clone" - is that right? > > If you have been successful with a P2B-DS or P2B-LS, let > me know, I _think_ I'm having a difficult time getting > SCSI termination correct.... (but...) I got a P2B-LS. Had lot of problems (kernel stopped booting when it came to the SCSI controller) until I upgraded the BIOS. > > I didn't think 3.3-RELEASE had any problems with a aha2940u2w... > Have people been successful with it? The thing works great! I used everything from 3.2 to -STABLE w/o any problems. -Andre > > - Thanks - > - Dave Rivers - > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 8: 2:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.vnet.net (smtp2.vnet.net [166.82.1.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7CCF151C1 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 08:01:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp2.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA08060; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:01:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15174; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:01:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id LAA02954; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:01:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:01:13 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199911161601.LAA02954@lakes.dignus.com> To: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de, rivers@dignus.com Subject: Re: ASUS P2B-S and FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19991116165608.A23703@internal> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Tue, 16-Nov-1999 at 09:19:48 -0500, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > > > > Is anyone using FreeBSD 3.3 with an ASUS P2B SCSI? > > I believe this is an AHA 2940U2W "clone" - is that right? > > > > If you have been successful with a P2B-DS or P2B-LS, let > > me know, I _think_ I'm having a difficult time getting > > SCSI termination correct.... (but...) > > I got a P2B-LS. Had lot of problems (kernel stopped booting > when it came to the SCSI controller) until I upgraded the > BIOS. > Sounds interesting - what version of the BIOS did you upgrade to? - Dave R. - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 8:11:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B8B1523E for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 08:11:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from mail1.siemens.de (mail1.siemens.de [139.23.33.14]) by david.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22276 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:11:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.42.7]) by mail1.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02260 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:11:08 +0100 (MET) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA86124 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:11:07 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:11:06 +0100 From: Andre Albsmeier To: Thomas David Rivers Cc: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ASUS P2B-S and FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE Message-ID: <19991116171106.A23724@internal> References: <19991116165608.A23703@internal> <199911161601.LAA02954@lakes.dignus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <199911161601.LAA02954@lakes.dignus.com>; from rivers@dignus.com on Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 11:01:13AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 16-Nov-1999 at 11:01:13 -0500, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > > On Tue, 16-Nov-1999 at 09:19:48 -0500, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > > > > > > Is anyone using FreeBSD 3.3 with an ASUS P2B SCSI? > > > I believe this is an AHA 2940U2W "clone" - is that right? > > > > > > If you have been successful with a P2B-DS or P2B-LS, let > > > me know, I _think_ I'm having a difficult time getting > > > SCSI termination correct.... (but...) > > > > I got a P2B-LS. Had lot of problems (kernel stopped booting > > when it came to the SCSI controller) until I upgraded the > > BIOS. > > > > Sounds interesting - what version of the BIOS did you upgrade to? OK, will try to remember. I currently use 1.11 and used 1.10 before. I think I got it with something < 1.08 which didn't work. The SCSI BIOS shows something about Version 2.11, iirc... However, I suggest you upgrade it to 1.11 using ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/asus/mb/flash/aflash.exe and ftp://ftp.asuscom.de/pub/ASUS/mb/slot1/440bx/p2b-s/bx2s1011.zip The above file is for a P2B-S ... > > - Dave R. - -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 8:19:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from proxyb1.san.rr.com (proxyb1-100bt.san.rr.com [204.210.1.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E1D15240 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 08:18:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lucas@san.rr.com) Received: from bubba ([24.30.140.4]) by proxyb1.san.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id com for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 08:18:42 -0800 X-Sender: lucas@pop-server.san.rr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 08:19:01 -0800 To: "FreeBSD Stable" From: Lucas Silacci Subject: XFree86 problem, missing half the vertical lines... In-Reply-To: <003201bf2fed$2d81d020$0300a8c0@poseiden.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <19991116161859.90E1D15240@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I recently installed XFree86 onto a machine running FreeBSD 3.3 with a Matrox Millenium 4MB video card. The installation went fine and I was able to run XF86Setup without any problems, but when I finished and it started the XServer, I only get the display in alternating vertical lines... Same thing when I try to run it from startx. I've tried switching monitors with another machine I have (and changing the settings in XF86Setup accordingly), but to no avail. I admit I am new to this, but it puzzles me that XF86Setup looks fine, but the xserver is only half there. Any help/pointers anyone can give would be appreciated. -Lucas -- "All that we see or seem Is but a dream within a dream." -- Edgar Allan Poe Lucas Silacci lucas@comports.com lucas.silacci@sandiegoca.ncr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 8:19:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.vnet.net (smtp2.vnet.net [166.82.1.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF5B15230 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 08:19:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp2.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA11778; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:19:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15220; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:19:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id LAA03051; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:19:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:19:07 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199911161619.LAA03051@lakes.dignus.com> To: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de, rivers@dignus.com Subject: Re: ASUS P2B-S and FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19991116171106.A23724@internal> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > Sounds interesting - what version of the BIOS did you upgrade to? > > OK, will try to remember. I currently use 1.11 and used 1.10 before. > I think I got it with something < 1.08 which didn't work. > > The SCSI BIOS shows something about Version 2.11, iirc... > > However, I suggest you upgrade it to 1.11 using > > ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/asus/mb/flash/aflash.exe > > and > > ftp://ftp.asuscom.de/pub/ASUS/mb/slot1/440bx/p2b-s/bx2s1011.zip > > The above file is for a P2B-S ... > Thanks! I'll give it a try. - Dave R. - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 10:44:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.clientlogic.com (ns.clientlogic.com [207.51.66.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F7B14E20 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:44:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ChrisMic@clientlogic.com) Received: by site0s1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:44:53 -0500 Message-ID: <6C37EE640B78D2118D2F00A0C90FCB4401105D84@site2s1> From: Christopher Michaels To: "'freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.Org'" Subject: wdX: reverting to PIO mode reading fsbn 0 (status 51 error 84) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:48:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here's my situation. FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE as of some time last month. FIC VA-503+ Motherboard. VIA MVP3 Chipset. AMD k6-2/300 128MB EDO Ram. wd0: UDMA/66 capable 10.2GB Western Digital Harddrive wd1: UDMA/66 capable 20.2GB IBM Deskstar. The flags on the controller is 0xa0ffa0ff. When I boot the system with UDMA mode enabled in the BIOS I get the following 2 error messages. wd0: reverting to PIO mode reading fsbn 0 (status 51 error 84) wd1: reverting to PIO mode reading fsbn 0 (status 51 error 84) The 10GB drive is fairly new and the 20GB is brand new. I doubt that there was a bad block (if that is what this error message means in the 1st place), and also that it would be in the exact same place on both drives. Does anyone have any insight into this at all? Thanks, -Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 10:45:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.enteract.com (mail.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7027815219 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:45:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nasby@shell-1.enteract.com) Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (nasby@shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by mail.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA37433 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:45:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from nasby@shell-1.enteract.com) Received: (from nasby@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA94082 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:45:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from nasby) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:45:18 -0600 From: "Jim C. Nasby" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installworld fails repeatedly Message-ID: <19991116124517.A33389@enteract.com> Reply-To: jim@nasby.net Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <000f01bf2e06$3de89f40$5ad1c026@keichii> <38317192.3873C806@newsguy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <38317192.3873C806@newsguy.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 X-Distributed: Join the Effort! http://www.distributed.net Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Would it be possible to add a configuration option to a Makefile to tell make to ignore the -j option? There's other things that, from what I understand, shouldn't be made with -j, such as make depend when compiling the kernel (though, I've heard both sides of that argument). It seems that being able to put in the makefile whether a certain section could be parallelized would save a lot of people a lot of headaches. dB! On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 12:00:34AM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > "¶³¹q¤§­· Michael Wu" wrote: > > > > When I do make -j4 installworld, I keep getting > > the following error: > > installworld target is not paralelizable (sp?). > > -- > Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) > dcs@newsguy.com > dcs@freebsd.org > > What y'all wanna do? > Wanna be hackers? Code crackers? Slackers > Wastin' time with all the chatroom yakkers? > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Jim C. Nasby (aka Decibel!) /^\ jim@nasby.net /___\ Freelance lighting designer and database developer / | \ Member: Triangle Fraternity, Sports Car Club of America /___|___\ Give your computer some brain-candy! http://www.distributed.net Team #1828 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 11:24: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6933D14EB1; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:23:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from cs.strath.ac.uk (roger@telford-01.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.172.1]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA04032 Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:23:56 GMT Message-ID: <3831AF4C.5DB28281@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:23:56 +0000 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org, Russell Cattelan Subject: HEADS UP: ES1371/1373 sound card support in -stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've just committed Russell Cattelan's patch for ES1371/ES1373 PCI Audio sound cards (which includes the new Creative Labs SoundBlaster 16, 64 and 128). This HEADS up is to explain that the code committed to -stable has not been committed to -current. This is because in 4.x-current, the PCM driver has been totally rewritten and so, the -stable driver and the -current driver are very very different. A commit to -current and an MFC are not applicable. If anyone experiences any problems with ES1370 sound cards or the new 1371 / 1373 support, please email Russell Cattelan or Roger Hardiman Thanks Roger -- Roger Hardiman roger@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 11:45:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.webmaster.com (mail.webmaster.com [209.133.28.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5530015275 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:45:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from davids@webmaster.com) Received: from whenever ([209.133.29.2]) by shell.webmaster.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:45:28 -0800 From: "David Schwartz" To: "Greg Quinlan" , Subject: RE: Slapd (LDAP) Problems Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:45:28 -0800 Message-ID: <000f01bf306b$228998a0$021d85d1@youwant.to> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <00af01bf3025$955a27a0$5214010a@swlct.sthames.nhs.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG One can be embedded in commerical products with minimal restrictions, the other can't. This is the main difference between the GPL and the FreeBSD license, so if you're going to argue that's a good thing, this isn't the list to do it on. DS > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David Schwartz > > > The distribution requirements for openldap are much more > restrictive than > > those for the old ldap. I'd hate to see the more retricted one > replace the > > freer one. > > > > DS > > > > Sorry how so? > > See: > > http://www.openldap.org/software/release/license.html > > The only difference I can see is that the development of > openldap, is as its > name suggests, "open." That any modifications to the "core > standard product" > be publicly shared, and properly documented. Selling Openldap as > a separate > product is also NOT allowed. Selling support, Selling it as part > of another > product, Selling installation of it.....etc is permitted. Essentially your > not allowed to steal-it call it your own!!! > > This is surely a good thing? > > > Greg > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 12:10:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C1C15246 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:10:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@hiwaay.net) Received: from hiwaay.net (tnt6-216-180-5-9.dialup.HiWAAY.net [216.180.5.9]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA12529; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:10:41 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3831BA41.F40D9A45@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:10:41 -0600 From: Kris Kirby Organization: Non Illegitemus Carborundum. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christopher Michaels Cc: "'freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.Org'" Subject: Re: wdX: reverting to PIO mode reading fsbn 0 (status 51 error 84) References: <6C37EE640B78D2118D2F00A0C90FCB4401105D84@site2s1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Christopher Michaels wrote: > > Here's my situation. > > FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE as of some time last month. > FIC VA-503+ Motherboard. VIA MVP3 Chipset. > AMD k6-2/300 > 128MB EDO Ram. > wd0: UDMA/66 capable 10.2GB Western Digital Harddrive > wd1: UDMA/66 capable 20.2GB IBM Deskstar. > > The flags on the controller is 0xa0ffa0ff. > > When I boot the system with UDMA mode enabled in the BIOS I get the > following 2 error messages. > > wd0: reverting to PIO mode reading fsbn 0 (status 51 error > 84) > wd1: reverting to PIO mode reading fsbn 0 (status 51 error > 84) > Does anyone have any insight into this at all? FWIW, I get the same error. I just noticed we have the same CPU, and the same chipset on the motherboard. Do you have a UDMA/66 motherboard? Mine is only /33 capable, and I only had the error when attempting to bad-block scan the whole drive (single partition, type 165) using bad144. I have not experienced any data loss... -- Kris Kirby | ------------------------------------------- TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 12:22:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.clientlogic.com (ns.clientlogic.com [207.51.66.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2766D14D88 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:22:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ChrisMic@clientlogic.com) Received: by site0s1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:22:15 -0500 Message-ID: <6C37EE640B78D2118D2F00A0C90FCB4401105D85@site2s1> From: Christopher Michaels To: 'Kris Kirby' Cc: "'freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.Org'" Subject: RE: reverting to PIO mode reading fsbn 0 (status 51 error 84) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:25:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The error happens on my system right after it changes to the root device, and starts going through the normal contortions it goes through on startup. Yes it is a DMA/33 chipset, not a DMA/66 capable. To my knowledge, any DMA/66 drive should be capable of DMA/33. I do see your point, it may be a chipset related issue, or a compatability issue where FreeBSD isn't properly working with that chipset. I've never experienced data loss ether. It's just the fact that I have 2 fairly modern drives, that are relegated to PIO mode for data transfers. Just as another note, I have the drives "dangerously dedicated". -Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Kris Kirby [SMTP:kris@hiwaay.net] > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 3:11 PM > To: Christopher Michaels > Cc: 'freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.Org' > Subject: reverting to PIO mode reading fsbn 0 (status 51 ,err> error 84) > > Christopher Michaels wrote: > > > > Here's my situation. > > > > FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE as of some time last month. > > FIC VA-503+ Motherboard. VIA MVP3 Chipset. > > AMD k6-2/300 > > 128MB EDO Ram. > > > wd0: UDMA/66 capable 10.2GB Western Digital Harddrive > > wd1: UDMA/66 capable 20.2GB IBM Deskstar. > > > > The flags on the controller is 0xa0ffa0ff. > > > > When I boot the system with UDMA mode enabled in the BIOS I get the > > following 2 error messages. > > > > wd0: reverting to PIO mode reading fsbn 0 (status 51 > error > > 84) > > wd1: reverting to PIO mode reading fsbn 0 (status 51 > error > > 84) > > > Does anyone have any insight into this at all? > > FWIW, I get the same error. I just noticed we have the same CPU, and the > same chipset on the motherboard. Do you have a UDMA/66 motherboard? Mine > is only /33 capable, and I only had the error when attempting to > bad-block scan the whole drive (single partition, type 165) using > bad144. I have not experienced any data loss... > -- > Kris Kirby > | > ------------------------------------------- > TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 12:50:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yamuna.dalai-nor.de (yamuna.dalai-nor.de [194.231.227.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA1214F11 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:50:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pruess@yamuna.dalai-nor.de) Received: (from pruess@localhost) by yamuna.dalai-nor.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id VAA09755; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:52:07 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199911162052.VAA09755@yamuna.dalai-nor.de> Subject: Re: ASUS P2B-S and FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <199911161419.JAA02191@lakes.dignus.com> from Thomas David Rivers at "Nov 16, 99 09:19:48 am" To: rivers@dignus.com (Thomas David Rivers) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:52:06 +0100 (CET) Cc: pruess@yamuna.dalai-nor.de (G P), freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "G.P." Reply-To: G.P@chatcity.de X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Is anyone using FreeBSD 3.3 with an ASUS P2B SCSI? > I believe this is an AHA 2940U2W "clone" - is that right? > > If you have been successful with a P2B-DS or P2B-LS, let > me know, I _think_ I'm having a difficult time getting > SCSI termination correct.... (but...) > > I didn't think 3.3-RELEASE had any problems with a aha2940u2w... > Have people been successful with it? > 3.3 runs fine on my P2B-LS. Gunnar To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 14:38:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from falla.videotron.net (falla.videotron.net [205.151.222.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9799515261 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:38:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luc_m@videotron.ca) Received: from videotron.ca ([24.200.211.107]) by falla.videotron.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.07.30.00.05.p8) with ESMTP id <0FLB00M0IAUVD9@falla.videotron.net> for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:37:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:38:56 -0500 From: Luc Morin Subject: Re: HEADS UP: ES1371/1373 sound card support in -stable To: stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <3831DD00.88A1395E@videotron.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <3831AF4C.5DB28281@cs.strath.ac.uk> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Roger Hardiman wrote: > Hi, > > I've just committed Russell Cattelan's patch for ES1371/ES1373 PCI Audio > sound > cards (which includes the new Creative Labs SoundBlaster 16, 64 and > 128). > > This HEADS up is to explain that the code committed to -stable has > not been committed to -current. > > This is because in 4.x-current, the PCM driver has been totally > rewritten > and so, the -stable driver and the -current driver are very very > different. > A commit to -current and an MFC are not applicable. > > If anyone experiences any problems with ES1370 sound cards or the new > 1371 / 1373 > support, please email Russell Cattelan > or Roger Hardiman > > Thanks > Roger > -- > Roger Hardiman > roger@freebsd.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message Does this add support for MIDI with SB128 cards ? Thanks, Luc Morin Electrical Engineering Technologist To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 15:48: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.vnet.net (smtp1.vnet.net [166.82.1.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EA3714C20 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:48:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp1.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA05897 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:48:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA15861 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:48:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id SAA04182 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:47:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:47:59 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199911162347.SAA04182@lakes.dignus.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Panics & bad reads from 3.3-RELEASE install with aha2940u2w.... Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok - I give up. I've tried this on two machines; one with the ASUS P2B-S you may have seen me talking about; (with the "on board" aha2940u2w (aha bios #2.11)) and another with an ASUS P2B with a real aha2940u2w installed (aha bios #2.01). I'm doing this all on the non-LVD SCSI chain; I've just a wide disk drive with proper termination, and a 50-pin disk with proper termination. I've done it with a SONY CRX140S (a nice new SCSI CD-RW from SONY) and a YAMAHA CRW6416SZ. Both demonstrate the same bug. So - I believe I've eliminated hardware from the scenario - leaving only one thing - a bug in FreeBSD? When I try to install by booting from the CD - the install proceeds up to actually trying to extract the distributions from the CD - at which point you get read errors, with cpio complaining about checksum errors and skipping nnnn bytes of junk. Of course, the files are not extracted. This eventually ends in a `write' error of some kind - although I don't think that's actually what happened. If I disable the CD boot - and instead, boot from the floppies, I get to extracting the distributions and *poof* I get a panic with a page fault - somewhere in CAM I think. So - it would seem to me there is some CAM and aha 2940u2w problem lurking in there... Thoughts? - Dave Rivers - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 16:33:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [192.83.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7259A14BD3 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:33:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16941 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:33:24 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08242; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:33:24 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199911170033.LAA08242@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: updating PR info? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:33:24 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've submitted a couple of PRs that are not shown with me as the "originator ID" so I can't easily find them to check status etc. What's the kosher way of getting this info updated? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 16:44: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.enteract.com (mail.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9620A14EA8 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:44:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nasby@shell-1.enteract.com) Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (nasby@shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by mail.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01688 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:44:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from nasby@shell-1.enteract.com) Received: (from nasby@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA05967 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:44:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from nasby) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:44:02 -0600 From: "Jim C. Nasby" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Panics & bad reads from 3.3-RELEASE install with aha2940u2w.... Message-ID: <19991116184402.E33389@enteract.com> Reply-To: jim@nasby.net Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <199911162347.SAA04182@lakes.dignus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <199911162347.SAA04182@lakes.dignus.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 X-Distributed: Join the Effort! http://www.distributed.net Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FWIW, the SCSI chipset on the P2B-DS is an aha7890; I assume it's the same on the -S. Also FWIW, I had no trouble doing an FTP install on a P2B-DS with different versions of FBSD and different drives. On Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 06:47:59PM -0500, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > > Ok - I give up. > > I've tried this on two machines; one with the ASUS P2B-S you may > have seen me talking about; (with the "on board" aha2940u2w (aha bios #2.11)) > and another with an ASUS P2B with a real aha2940u2w installed (aha bios #2.01). -- Jim C. Nasby (aka Decibel!) /^\ jim@nasby.net /___\ Freelance lighting designer and database developer / | \ Member: Triangle Fraternity, Sports Car Club of America /___|___\ Give your computer some brain-candy! http://www.distributed.net Team #1828 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 16:44: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1DD2A14F86 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:44:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 17 Nov 1999 00:44:03 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 00:44:02 +0000 From: David Malone To: Gregory Bond Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: updating PR info? Message-ID: <19991117004402.A2464@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <199911170033.LAA08242@lightning.itga.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <199911170033.LAA08242@lightning.itga.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 11:33:24AM +1100, Gregory Bond wrote: > I've submitted a couple of PRs that are not shown with me as the "originator > ID" so I can't easily find them to check status etc. What's the kosher way of > getting this info updated? I find that putting in a real name, as opposed to an e-mail address, works better in hte Originator ID field. Have you tried this? David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 16:52:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [192.83.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F9EA14EA8 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:52:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17029; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:52:40 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08699; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:52:38 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199911170052.LAA08699@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: David Malone , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: updating PR info? In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 17 Nov 1999 00:44:02 -0000. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:52:38 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I find that putting in a real name, as opposed to an e-mail address, works > better in hte Originator ID field. Have you tried this? Perhaps I wasn't clear. I've done that on most of the ones I've submitted, but not on all of them, and I fully intend to do that in future. I was inquiring about getting the ones I'd already submitted without that info updated with proper "Originator ID" info. I'm not a committer and (afaict) can't do this via a web page. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 17:24:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E696A14A2E for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:24:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt8-216-180-15-162.dialup.HiWAAY.net [216.180.15.162]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA02765; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:24:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA14558; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:57:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Message-Id: <199911170057.SAA14558@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Thomas David Rivers Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: ASUS P2B-S and FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE In-reply-to: Message from Thomas David Rivers of "Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:19:48 EST." <199911161419.JAA02191@lakes.dignus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:57:17 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas David Rivers writes: > > Is anyone using FreeBSD 3.3 with an ASUS P2B SCSI? > I believe this is an AHA 2940U2W "clone" - is that right? > > If you have been successful with a P2B-DS or P2B-LS, let > me know, I _think_ I'm having a difficult time getting > SCSI termination correct.... (but...) You say "ASUS P2B SCSI" and "P2B-DS or P2B-LS", which do you mean? I have a P2B-S (single CPU, single SCSI, no ethernet on MB) and it works just peachy. Fact is FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE was almost too easy to install. Shocks me to no end when I can boot a FreeBSD CDROM directly with a brand new MB, blank HD, and no floppy. Love it. Took several days of searching in background mode before I found out about in order to be able to install pain-in-the-??? NT. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 17:33: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D17314E2D for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:32:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt8-216-180-15-162.dialup.HiWAAY.net [216.180.15.162]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA20230; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:32:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA16958; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:32:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Message-Id: <199911170132.TAA16958@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: jim@nasby.net Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Thomas David Rivers From: David Kelly Subject: Re: Panics & bad reads from 3.3-RELEASE install with aha2940u2w.... In-reply-to: Message from "Jim C. Nasby" of "Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:44:02 CST." <19991116184402.E33389@enteract.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:32:47 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jim C. Nasby" writes: > FWIW, the SCSI chipset on the P2B-DS is an aha7890; I assume it's the > same on the -S. Also FWIW, I had no trouble doing an FTP install on > a P2B-DS with different versions of FBSD and different drives. I have a P2B-S, not -DS, and its functions have been perfect. Wonder what I did with my 3.3-RELEASE CD's? My P2B-S has been a sacrificial experiment machine that I can wipe as needed. And I've been meaning to resize its partitions. What I haven't done is put SCSI CD's on the thing. It has two 7200 RPM 9G IBM 1" high UW drives on it and the non-LVD SCSI cable. Nothing is connected to the narrow SCSI connector on the MB. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 17:42:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.vnet.net (smtp1.vnet.net [166.82.1.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E6C14E2D for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:42:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp1.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA27520; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:42:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA16022; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:42:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id UAA00416; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:42:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:42:37 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199911170142.UAA00416@lakes.dignus.com> To: dkelly@hiwaay.net, jim@nasby.net Subject: Re: Panics & bad reads from 3.3-RELEASE install with aha2940u2w.... Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, rivers@dignus.com In-Reply-To: <199911170132.TAA16958@nospam.hiwaay.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > "Jim C. Nasby" writes: > > FWIW, the SCSI chipset on the P2B-DS is an aha7890; I assume it's the > > same on the -S. Also FWIW, I had no trouble doing an FTP install on > > a P2B-DS with different versions of FBSD and different drives. > > I have a P2B-S, not -DS, and its functions have been perfect. Wonder > what I did with my 3.3-RELEASE CD's? My P2B-S has been a sacrificial > experiment machine that I can wipe as needed. And I've been meaning to > resize its partitions. > > What I haven't done is put SCSI CD's on the thing. It has two 7200 RPM > 9G IBM 1" high UW drives on it and the non-LVD SCSI cable. Nothing is > connected to the narrow SCSI connector on the MB. > I have given up on a CD install... At this point; I have a P2B with a "real" AHA2940U2W - and a nice Yamaha CD-RW. If you succeed in a 3.3-INSTALL with that, I'd be really interested in knowing - perhaps it's just my CD that's bad, and a different 3.3-RELEASE CD wouldn't have the problem.... - Dave Rivers - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 17:45: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.vnet.net (smtp1.vnet.net [166.82.1.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A64E14E2D for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:44:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp1.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA27918; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:44:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA16028; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:44:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id UAA00439; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:44:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:44:46 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199911170144.UAA00439@lakes.dignus.com> To: dkelly@hiwaay.net, rivers@dignus.com Subject: Re: ASUS P2B-S and FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199911170057.SAA14558@nospam.hiwaay.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > You say "ASUS P2B SCSI" and "P2B-DS or P2B-LS", which do you mean? I > have a P2B-S (single CPU, single SCSI, no ethernet on MB) and it works > just peachy. Fact is FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE was almost too easy to install. > Shocks me to no end when I can boot a FreeBSD CDROM directly with a > brand new MB, blank HD, and no floppy. Love it. The P2B comes in several "flavors" D - Dual CPU L - Ethernet on-board S - SCSI on board So, when I say ASUS P2B SCSI, I mean one of: P2B-S P2B-DS P2B-LS they all have the same on-board SCSI controller. - Dave R. - p.s. - what does do? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 17:49:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [192.83.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 062CD14E2D for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:49:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17276 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:49:16 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10178; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:49:16 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199911170149.MAA10178@lightning.itga.com.au> From: Gregory Bond To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: updating PR info? In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:33:24 +1100. Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:49:16 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I wrote: > I've submitted a couple of PRs that are not shown with me as the "originator > ID" so I can't easily find them to check status etc. Mia Maxima Culpa. I did some poking round and send-pr is supposed to fill the Originator field in automatically (from a range of places, /etc/passwd is the last it tries). I was not in the /etc/passwd file, but I could log in! What seems to have happened is that I ran "mergemaster" without being sufficiently careful, overwrote the password files with the install defaults, but never remade the .db files. So I could log in and ls etc worked (because they use the .db files), but anything that looked at /etc/passwd was broken. /\ / \ ---- Greg, wearing a pointy hat. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 17:56: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.vnet.net (smtp2.vnet.net [166.82.1.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B81D14CA4 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:55:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp2.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA00466; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:55:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA16051; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:55:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id UAA00504; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:55:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:55:54 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199911170155.UAA00504@lakes.dignus.com> To: dkelly@hiwaay.net, jim@nasby.net Subject: Re: Panics & bad reads from 3.3-RELEASE install with aha2940u2w.... Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, rivers@dignus.com In-Reply-To: <199911170132.TAA16958@nospam.hiwaay.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > "Jim C. Nasby" writes: > > FWIW, the SCSI chipset on the P2B-DS is an aha7890; I assume it's the > > same on the -S. Also FWIW, I had no trouble doing an FTP install on > > a P2B-DS with different versions of FBSD and different drives. > > I have a P2B-S, not -DS, and its functions have been perfect. Wonder > what I did with my 3.3-RELEASE CD's? My P2B-S has been a sacrificial > experiment machine that I can wipe as needed. And I've been meaning to > resize its partitions. > > What I haven't done is put SCSI CD's on the thing. It has two 7200 RPM > 9G IBM 1" high UW drives on it and the non-LVD SCSI cable. Nothing is > connected to the narrow SCSI connector on the MB. You mentioned that 3.2 installed just fine - I'm guessing it was from a non-SCSI CD, or over the net. I just tried 3.2 (thinking maybe my 3.3 CDs were bad somehow); got a panic just as soon as it tried to read the bin distribution. A net install seems like it would succeed (although, with my connectivity, not to resoundingly fast... :-) ) [I've got the same IBM drives, I believe... - which makes your experiment even more interesting to me.. if you succeed, I will be jealous :-) ] - Dave Rivers - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 18:14:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27A314F5C for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:14:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt8-216-180-15-162.dialup.HiWAAY.net [216.180.15.162]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id UAA08369; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:14:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA17239; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:14:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Message-Id: <199911170214.UAA17239@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Thomas David Rivers Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: ASUS P2B-S and FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE In-reply-to: Message from Thomas David Rivers of "Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:44:46 EST." <199911170144.UAA00439@lakes.dignus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:14:21 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas David Rivers writes: > > The P2B comes in several "flavors" [...] > they all have the same on-board SCSI controller. Yeah, but sometimes making the assumption that things are identical is the cause of lots of grief. > p.s. - what does do? Maybe its or , but its something you have to do to interupt NT install in order to insert proper drivers for the Adaptec subsystem else if one waits for NT to *ask* for device drivers then its too late. While NT is capable of loading these device drivers from alternate sources during install its too stupid to ask for them until after its too late to actually use them to perform the install. As a result I had FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE running on my P2B-S about a week before NT. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 18:25: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D5314E13 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:25:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt8-216-180-15-162.dialup.HiWAAY.net [216.180.15.162]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id UAA01552; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:25:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA17266; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:24:58 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Message-Id: <199911170224.UAA17266@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Thomas David Rivers Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: Panics & bad reads from 3.3-RELEASE install with aha2940u2w.... In-reply-to: Message from Thomas David Rivers of "Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:55:54 EST." <199911170155.UAA00504@lakes.dignus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:24:57 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas David Rivers writes: > You mentioned that 3.2 installed just fine - I'm guessing it was > from a non-SCSI CD, or over the net. Used a $32 32x Hitachi CD from a PC surplus shop. It makes quite a noise when it spins up to full speed but has worked perfectly. > [I've got the same IBM drives, I believe... - which makes your > experiment even more interesting to me.. if you succeed, I will be > jealous :-) ] Dug thru my receipts and found they (two) are IBM DDRS-39130UW. MB BIOS was originally 1008a its now 1010?, possibly beta. Spent 2 months going around in circles with Iomega over an ATAPI Zip-100 before finally getting an RMA. Replacement worked perfectly. But in the mean time I fixe a lot of stuff that wasn't broken. Such as the BIOS. If ever dealing with Iomega, don't let them know the BIOS is able to see their Zip drive. Especially don't mention "the BIOS manual says it knows how to boot a Zip drive." Their tech support will focus on that as the problem for a long time even when you insist, "No, the problem is it *worked* when the BIOS saw it, now the BIOS doesn't and meanwhile the Zip drive happens not to work." -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 18:28:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.vnet.net (smtp1.vnet.net [166.82.1.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D0714E13 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:28:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp1.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA05870; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:28:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA16141; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:28:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id VAA00422; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:28:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:28:17 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199911170228.VAA00422@lakes.dignus.com> To: dkelly@hiwaay.net, rivers@dignus.com Subject: Re: ASUS P2B-S and FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199911170214.UAA17239@nospam.hiwaay.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Thomas David Rivers writes: > > > > The P2B comes in several "flavors" > [...] > > they all have the same on-board SCSI controller. > > Yeah, but sometimes making the assumption that things are identical is > the cause of lots of grief. Yep - I've been there too :-) But, I also have another tenet - when you don't think X is the problem, it likely isn't - even if it was 10,000 times before. That's an even more difficult idea to stick to... (I *know* I solved problems this way in the past - it just _has_ to be the same thing...) And - just to keep everyone who's interested up-to-date; I just tried an FTP install and got an integer divide panic. Certainly not something most people get :-) And, likely not caused by the SCSI sub-system. So - I'm guessing, at this point, I've got something mis-configured on the motherboard. By the way - has anyone used a PIII-450 on an ASUS P2B-D before? - Dave Rivers - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 18:40:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from inet.chip-web.com (adsl-63-195-43-53.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.195.43.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A187C14BD7 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:40:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ludwigp@bigfoot.com) Received: (qmail 25967 invoked from network); 17 Nov 1999 02:40:42 -0000 Received: from toy.chip-web.com (HELO bigfoot.com) (@172.16.1.30) by inet.chip-web.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 1999 02:40:42 -0000 Message-ID: <383215A9.B3643FE5@bigfoot.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:40:41 -0800 From: Ludwig Pummer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: PROMISE IDE Ultra66 References: <003201bf2fed$2d81d020$0300a8c0@poseiden.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > "David W. Chapman Jr." wrote: > > I installed a promise ide ultra66 and freebsd-3.3 stable doesn't even > see it. Its on irq 15, the onboard controllers are disable and it > will try to load the kernel and then can't find the controller and > complains that it can't change to root. Yes, Kachun Lee posted 2 patch files a while ago on comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc and one of the mailing lists (probably -stable). I had to apply the patches by hand to a 3.3-STABLE system, but it worked. Note that I had to play with my kernel config a bit in order to see the new hard drive, following the examples in LINT, because I also left both onboard controllers enabled. See http://bx4.deja.com/=sc/getdoc.xp?AN=537636073 or http://bx4.deja.com/=sc/getdoc.xp?AN=537636073&fmt=text To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 19:46:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id AC33A14E20; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:46:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B0DA1CD441; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:46:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@hub.freebsd.org) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:46:38 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: Mike Meyer Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. In-Reply-To: <14384.55513.350588.305393@guru.phone.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Mike Meyer wrote: > Kris Kennaway writes: > ;->David already answered this one. Packages, by necessity, often need to > ;->have some hardcoded prefix in them. If you don't like the default, you're > ;->free to build the port by hand by doing cd /usr/ports/foo/bar && make > ;->install PREFIX=/usr/mumble. Ports which don't allow this are broken and > ;->must be send-pr'ed so we can fix them. Vague complaints don't count :-) > > The next time I upgrade all/most of my ports, I'll probably point them > at something else. Then fix and send-pr (with patches, of course) > anything that doesn't work properly that way. Cool, thanks! > Of course, if the tool in question is something that comes in binary, > I'm pretty much scrod. This is true, but fortunately I don't think this is a frequent occurrance, if it happens at all. Still, let us know if you find one. Kris ---- Cthulhu for President! For when you're tired of choosing the _lesser_ of two evils.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 20: 3:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2284314FBE for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:03:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA20072; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:02:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199911170402.UAA20072@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: ASUS P2B-S and FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <199911170228.VAA00422@lakes.dignus.com> from Thomas David Rivers at "Nov 16, 1999 09:28:17 pm" To: rivers@dignus.com (Thomas David Rivers) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:02:54 -0800 (PST) Cc: dkelly@hiwaay.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > Thomas David Rivers writes: > > > > > > The P2B comes in several "flavors" > > [...] > > > they all have the same on-board SCSI controller. > > > > Yeah, but sometimes making the assumption that things are identical is > > the cause of lots of grief. > > Yep - I've been there too :-) > > But, I also have another tenet - when you don't think X is the problem, > it likely isn't - even if it was 10,000 times before. That's an even > more difficult idea to stick to... (I *know* I solved problems this > way in the past - it just _has_ to be the same thing...) > > And - just to keep everyone who's interested up-to-date; I just > tried an FTP install and got an integer divide panic. Certainly > not something most people get :-) And, likely not caused by the > SCSI sub-system. I suspect memory at this point... given your other failure modes of data corruption (checksum errors from cpio), kernel panics, etc. > > So - I'm guessing, at this point, I've got something mis-configured > on the motherboard. By the way - has anyone used a PIII-450 on an > ASUS P2B-D before? Yes, weve built about 50 or so of them.... lets see... okay, only 30 of those where PIII-450's, others where 500's :-) And yes, this is specifically the P2B-D board, we don't use the P2B-DS unless someone really insists on it, we'd rather put an NCR 53C875 in it than sell them the -DS. -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 20:56:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from luna.lyris.net (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B64F14DD7 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:56:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kip@lyris.com) Received: from luna.shelby.com by luna.lyris.net (8.9.1b+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id UAA10633; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:56:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by luna.shelby.com with SMTP (MailShield v1.50); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:56:02 -0700 Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:56:02 -0800 (PST) From: Kip Macy X-Sender: kip@luna To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: aio_write not causing signal to be transmitted Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-SMTP-HELO: luna X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: kip@lyris.com X-SMTP-RCPT-TO: stable@freebsd.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From inside a function: send_data->aio_fildes = descriptor; send_data->aio_buf = buf; send_data->aio_nbytes = nbytes; send_data->aio_sigevent.sigev_notify = SIGEV_SIGNAL; send_data->aio_sigevent.sigev_signo = SIGIO; send_data->aio_sigevent.sigev_value.sival_int = descriptor; aio_write(&(aiocb_set->write_aiocb_table[descriptor]); The write completes but a signal is never sent to the process - when I run under gdb and set it to stop at a SIGIO it never stops. Am I misunderstanding the API? -Kip To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 21:18: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from m4.c2.telstra-mm.net.au (m4.c2.telstra-mm.net.au [24.192.3.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC111520D for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:17:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from areilly@nsw.bigpond.net.au) Received: from m5.c2.telstra-mm.net.au (m5.c2.telstra-mm.net.au [24.192.3.20]) by m4.c2.telstra-mm.net.au (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA17500 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:17:47 +1100 (EDT) X-BPC-Relay-Envelope-From: areilly@nsw.bigpond.net.au X-BPC-Relay-Envelope-To: X-BPC-Relay-Sender-Host: m5.c2.telstra-mm.net.au [24.192.3.20] X-BPC-Relay-Info: Message delivered directly. Received: from areilly.bpc-users.org (CPE-24-192-49-170.nsw.bigpond.net.au [24.192.49.170]) by m5.c2.telstra-mm.net.au (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with SMTP id QAA18022 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:17:46 +1100 (EDT) Received: (qmail 38298 invoked by uid 1000); 17 Nov 1999 05:17:46 -0000 From: "Andrew Reilly" Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:17:46 +1100 To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Thomas David Rivers , dkelly@hiwaay.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ASUS P2B-S and FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE Message-ID: <19991117161746.A37434@gurney.reilly.home> References: <199911170228.VAA00422@lakes.dignus.com> <199911170402.UAA20072@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <199911170402.UAA20072@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 08:02:54PM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > we don't use the P2B-DS unless someone > really insists on it, we'd rather put an NCR 53C875 in it than sell > them the -DS. Why? Price difference? Performance reasons? Reliability experience? -- Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 21:36:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E1515212 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:36:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jon@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA41215; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:32:25 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:32:22 +1100 From: Jonathan Michaels To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Thomas David Rivers , dkelly@hiwaay.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ASUS P2B-S and FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE Message-ID: <19991117153220.A41169@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: "Rodney W. Grimes" , Thomas David Rivers , dkelly@hiwaay.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199911170228.VAA00422@lakes.dignus.com> <199911170402.UAA20072@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199911170402.UAA20072@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>; from Rodney W. Grimes on Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 08:02:54PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 08:02:54PM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > So - I'm guessing, at this point, I've got something mis-configured > > on the motherboard. By the way - has anyone used a PIII-450 on an > > ASUS P2B-D before? > > Yes, weve built about 50 or so of them.... lets see... okay, only 30 > of those where PIII-450's, others where 500's :-) And yes, this is > specifically the P2B-D board, we don't use the P2B-DS unless someone > really insists on it, we'd rather put an NCR 53C875 in it than sell > them the -DS. > any particular reason ? regards jonathan -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 21:37:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D543814D5E for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:37:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA20264; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:35:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199911170535.VAA20264@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: ASUS P2B-S and FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <19991117161746.A37434@gurney.reilly.home> from Andrew Reilly at "Nov 17, 1999 04:17:46 pm" To: areilly@nsw.bigpond.net.au (Andrew Reilly) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:35:47 -0800 (PST) Cc: rivers@dignus.com (Thomas David Rivers), dkelly@hiwaay.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 08:02:54PM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > we don't use the P2B-DS unless someone > > really insists on it, we'd rather put an NCR 53C875 in it than sell > > them the -DS. > > Why? Price difference? Performance reasons? Reliability Because :-) Yes. Yes. Yes. > experience? And defanitly yes. Don't get me wrong, adaptec makes an okay product, but it is a) single source, b) has had serious technical support nightmares over the years c) they like to change the card base chip's without changing the model and screwing us over (the 2940U to 2940AU did not change the order part number, yet the hardware became less functional due to chip changes). d) demand a price premium for very little to no performance gain over 53C8xx based cards. e) tend to be non open source freindly with thier data (I should know, I have signed enough NDA's with Adaptec to make me sick over the years, all the way back to 154x stuff) -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 21:48:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from m4.c2.telstra-mm.net.au (m4.c2.telstra-mm.net.au [24.192.3.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585C015233 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:48:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from A.Reilly@lake.com.au) Received: from m5.c2.telstra-mm.net.au (m5.c2.telstra-mm.net.au [24.192.3.20]) by m4.c2.telstra-mm.net.au (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA23883 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:48:28 +1100 (EDT) X-BPC-Relay-Envelope-From: A.Reilly@lake.com.au X-BPC-Relay-Envelope-To: X-BPC-Relay-Sender-Host: m5.c2.telstra-mm.net.au [24.192.3.20] X-BPC-Relay-Info: Message delivered directly. Received: from areilly.bpc-users.org (CPE-24-192-49-170.nsw.bigpond.net.au [24.192.49.170]) by m5.c2.telstra-mm.net.au (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with SMTP id QAA08232 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:48:27 +1100 (EDT) Received: (qmail 40199 invoked from network); 17 Nov 1999 05:48:27 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO gurney.reilly.home) (@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Nov 1999 05:48:27 -0000 From: Andrew Reilly Organization: Lake DSP To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Subject: Re: ASUS P2B-S and FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:44:32 +1100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: rivers@dignus.com (Thomas David Rivers), dkelly@hiwaay.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199911170535.VAA20264@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99111716482700.39935@gurney.reilly.home> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 08:02:54PM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > we don't use the P2B-DS unless someone > > > really insists on it, we'd rather put an NCR 53C875 in it than sell > > > them the -DS. > > > > Why? Price difference? Performance reasons? Reliability > Because :-) Yes. Yes. Yes. > > > experience? > > And defanitly yes. Fair enough. I didn't realise that an extra-card '875 would be cheaper than the on-board Adaptec. I'm onto my second built-in-Adaptec motherboard (first iwill, now gigabyte), and they've both worked like champs. I remember them being less expensive than the equivelant board+Adaptec card, but probably didn't compare them to the '875 for price. Having more spare PCI slots is a factor too. -- Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 21:52:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24B815233; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:52:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: from home.elischer.org (home.elischer.org [207.76.204.203]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA70121; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:52:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:52:23 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer X-Sender: julian@home.elischer.org To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: julian@freebsd.org Subject: netgraph into -stable. (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I admit that it doesn't seem a minor addition, but I'd like to get netgraph down into 3.x now that it has been shaken down a bit in 4.x and to give it some time to settle before 3.4. reasons: 1/ DSL in Canada is now switching rapidly to PPPoE. 1A/ *Newsflash* mindspring has just gone PPPoE-only. 1B/ UUnet is switching to PPPoE. 2/ PPP will start using it soon (other than with pppoe) and we'd like ONE version not 2 for Brian to maintain. 3/ ISPs who may want to use the PPPOE server side are generally running 3.x, not 4.x Supporting facts: Netgraph is written to generally be non intrusive. No code is changed in the non "options NETGRAPH" case and only minor changes are made in normal code paths in the NETGRAPH case. (with the exception of the if_sr and if_ar drivers). And last but not least: We are actually developing Netgraph under 3.3 so we are already keeping two source trees in sync, 3.3. and 4.0 so we might as well let others get at it. Anyone violently object? Nothing that you are already using should be effected, only netgraph users (and that's exactly 2 of you) :-) Julian (please make sure I'm at least in the cc line as I'm not on -stable as a rule) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 22:17:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sand2.sentex.ca (sand2.sentex.ca [209.167.248.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154E314A2D; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 22:17:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from gravel (ospf-mdt.sentex.net [205.211.164.81]) by sand2.sentex.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA21202; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 01:17:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.1.19991117011518.03f758c0@granite.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtancsa@granite.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 01:18:14 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: netgraph into -stable. (fwd) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:52 AM 11/17/99 , Julian Elischer wrote: >I admit that it doesn't seem a minor addition, but >I'd like to get netgraph down into 3.x now that it has been shaken down a >bit in 4.x and to give it some time to settle before 3.4. > >reasons: >1/ DSL in Canada is now switching rapidly to PPPoE. Yes please! Being in Bell (hell) Canada, I am particularly interested. >3/ ISPs who may want to use the PPPOE server side are generally running > 3.x, not 4.x Absolutely! >Anyone violently object? Not at all. It will allow us to try several projects that have been on hold for lack of PPPoE support. ---Mike ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa, Network Admin * mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications Corp, * http://www.sentex.net/mike Cambridge, Ontario * 519 651 3400 Canada * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 22:41:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from atlantis.corbe.net (surf832.pompano.net [24.129.30.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422DB14ECE for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 22:41:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from corbe@corbe.net) Received: from localhost (corbe@localhost) by atlantis.corbe.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA17155 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 01:41:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from corbe@corbe.net) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 01:41:16 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Corbe To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sound Card In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well I got my sound card to produce sound =) but the sound is nothing but static =( I can't figure out why.. any help? On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Daniel Corbe wrote: > > Anyone ever have any luck configuring an ESS 1688 (not a 1868) in > FreeBSD? The card isn't plug and play so I know it should be fairly > straight forward. I've read the documentation in /sys/i386/isa/sound and > I've read the pcm manual page and so far these are the steps I've taken: > > controller snd0 > device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 > device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 > device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 > device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 conflicts > > when that failed to work I tried the pcm driver two different ways (after > commenting out the VoxWare drivers of course): > > device pcm0 at isa? port 0x220 tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 > > when that didn't work: > > device pcm0 at isa? port ? tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 > > and tried using the USERCONFIG editor to configure it as if it were a PnP > device. > > in all I've recompiled my kernel a total of 17 times today and I just > can't get the sound card to initialize in FreeBSD. Any suggestions? > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 16 23:31: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7DC315381; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 23:30:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: from home.elischer.org (home.elischer.org [207.76.204.203]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA71813; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 23:30:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 23:30:54 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer X-Sender: julian@home.elischer.org To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: net@freebsd.org Subject: Heads Up! Netgraph moves to -stable Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Netgraph code has moved to -current. at this stage it's not being compiled in but that will happen over a few days. julian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 0: 9:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from enterprise.sanyusan.se (enterprise.sanyusan.se [212.209.55.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A14D14F7B for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 00:09:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anders@enterprise.sanyusan.se) Received: (from anders@localhost) by enterprise.sanyusan.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA64454; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:08:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anders) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:08:12 +0100 From: Anders Andersson To: Thomas David Rivers Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ASUS P2B-S and FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE Message-ID: <19991117090812.A64386@enterprise.sanyusan.se> References: <199911161419.JAA02191@lakes.dignus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <199911161419.JAA02191@lakes.dignus.com>; from rivers@dignus.com on Tis, Nov 16, 1999 at 09:19:48am -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tis, Nov 16, 1999 at 09:19:48am -0500, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > > Is anyone using FreeBSD 3.3 with an ASUS P2B SCSI? > I believe this is an AHA 2940U2W "clone" - is that right? > > If you have been successful with a P2B-DS or P2B-LS, let > me know, I _think_ I'm having a difficult time getting > SCSI termination correct.... (but...) > > I didn't think 3.3-RELEASE had any problems with a aha2940u2w... > Have people been successful with it? Yes, I can report that I successfully use FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE on a ASUS P2B-S MB. No problem whatsoever. Anders -- Anders Andersson anders@sanyusan.se Sanyusan International AB http://www.sanyusan.se/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 1:49: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from imr1.srv.uk.deuba.com (imr1.srv.uk.deuba.com [194.196.205.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F24B14C9B; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 01:48:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian.somers@db.com) Received: by imr1.srv.uk.deuba.com id JAA20139; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:48:45 GMT From: brian.somers@db.com Received: from bmr2-e1.srv.uk.deuba.com(10.140.222.2) by imr1.srv.uk.deuba.com via mail (V2.1/2.1) id xma020083; Wed, 17 Nov 99 09:48:38 GMT Received: from sdbo1003.srv.uk.deuba.com by bmr2-e1.srv.uk.deuba.com id JAA20531; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:48:37 GMT Received: by sdbo1003.srv.uk.deuba.com(Lotus SMTP MTA Internal build v4.6.2 hotfix 3 (687.1 8-4-1998)) id 0025682C.0035E090 ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:48:28 +0000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: DMG UK@DEUBAINT To: julian@whistle.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, julian@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@Awfulhak.org Message-ID: <0025682C.0035DEFD.00@sdbo1003.srv.uk.deuba.com> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:47:13 +0000 Subject: Re: netgraph into -stable. (fwd) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [lame mailer alert... my appologies] To: Julian Elischer cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, julian@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: netgraph into -stable. (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message from Julian Elischer of "Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:52:23 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain -------- I have two opinions here. First, netgraph does a lot of good things, and is incredibly flexible, so I'm keen on seeing it go into -stable. It seems to work quite well with PPPoE and solves all of my ``how to get ppp into the kernel'' problems. Second, although netgraph has been well tested at Whistle, it's quite suseptible to problems when abused. I've been unintentionally abusing it of late, and there are a number of (probably trivial) bugs. I'd suggest bringing it into -stable, but *not* putting it in the -stable kernel by default, perhaps marking it as experimental in LINT until there are no known bugs. If there are no objections, I'll MFC the ppp stuff after netgraph is MFCd, and then enable netgraph/PPPoE in the sysinstall version of ppp in -current only. > I admit that it doesn't seem a minor addition, but > I'd like to get netgraph down into 3.x now that it has been shaken down a > bit in 4.x and to give it some time to settle before 3.4. > > reasons: > 1/ DSL in Canada is now switching rapidly to PPPoE. > 1A/ *Newsflash* mindspring has just gone PPPoE-only. > 1B/ UUnet is switching to PPPoE. > 2/ PPP will start using it soon (other than with pppoe) > and we'd like ONE version not 2 for Brian to maintain. > 3/ ISPs who may want to use the PPPOE server side are generally running > 3.x, not 4.x > > Supporting facts: > Netgraph is written to generally be non intrusive. > No code is changed in the non "options NETGRAPH" case and only minor > changes are made in normal code paths in the NETGRAPH case. > (with the exception of the if_sr and if_ar drivers). > > And last but not least: > We are actually developing Netgraph under 3.3 so we are already keeping > two source trees in sync, 3.3. and 4.0 so we might as well let others get > at it. > > Anyone violently object? > > Nothing that you are already using should be effected, only netgraph users > (and that's exactly 2 of you) :-) > > Julian > (please make sure I'm at least in the cc line as I'm not on -stable as a > rule) -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 2:32: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from europa.salford.ac.uk (europa.salford.ac.uk [146.87.3.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E0D014C36 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 02:32:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from M.S.Powell@salford.ac.uk) Received: (qmail 23470 invoked by alias); 17 Nov 1999 10:32:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 23456 invoked from network); 17 Nov 1999 10:32:03 -0000 Received: from plato.salford.ac.uk (146.87.255.76) by europa.salford.ac.uk with SMTP; 17 Nov 1999 10:32:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 78237 invoked by uid 141); 17 Nov 1999 10:32:01 -0000 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:32:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Mark Powell X-Sender: mark@localhost To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD 3.3 CD (Sep 30) won't boot Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am using the latest version of the 3.3 image: -rw-r--r-- 1 hensa hensa 675028992 Sep 30 20:30 3.3-install.cd0 The one that's supposed to fix the booting problem. However, I have an Adaptec 2940UW, which recognises it as a bootable CD, after the POST screen, it displays the first character, of the rotating progress: - then hangs. The machine can be rebooted with CTRL-ALT-DEL. Win98 and Redhat 6.1 boot just fine from CD on the same machine. Surely, FreeBSD should do the same? Cheers. Mark Powell - UNIX System Administrator - Clifford Whitworth Building A.I.S., University of Salford, Salford, Manchester, UK. Tel: +44 161 295 5936 Fax: +44 161 295 5888 www.pgp.com for PGP key M.S.Powell@ais.salfrd.ac.uk (spell salford correctly to reply to me) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 2:37:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from m4.c2.telstra-mm.net.au (m4.c2.telstra-mm.net.au [24.192.3.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04A514C5A for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 02:37:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from areilly@nsw.bigpond.net.au) Received: from m5.c2.telstra-mm.net.au (m5.c2.telstra-mm.net.au [24.192.3.20]) by m4.c2.telstra-mm.net.au (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA25565 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:37:02 +1100 (EDT) X-BPC-Relay-Envelope-From: areilly@nsw.bigpond.net.au X-BPC-Relay-Envelope-To: X-BPC-Relay-Sender-Host: m5.c2.telstra-mm.net.au [24.192.3.20] X-BPC-Relay-Info: Message delivered directly. Received: from areilly.bpc-users.org (CPE-24-192-49-170.nsw.bigpond.net.au [24.192.49.170]) by m5.c2.telstra-mm.net.au (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with SMTP id VAA26886 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:36:54 +1100 (EDT) Received: (qmail 56371 invoked by uid 1000); 17 Nov 1999 10:36:53 -0000 From: "Andrew Reilly" Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:36:53 +1100 To: Julian Elischer Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, julian@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: netgraph into -stable. (fwd) Message-ID: <19991117213653.A56017@gurney.reilly.home> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 09:52:23PM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: > I admit that it doesn't seem a minor addition, but > I'd like to get netgraph down into 3.x now that it has been shaken down a > bit in 4.x and to give it some time to settle before 3.4. > > reasons: > 1/ DSL in Canada is now switching rapidly to PPPoE. > 1A/ *Newsflash* mindspring has just gone PPPoE-only. > 1B/ UUnet is switching to PPPoE. > 2/ PPP will start using it soon (other than with pppoe) > and we'd like ONE version not 2 for Brian to maintain. > 3/ ISPs who may want to use the PPPOE server side are generally running > 3.x, not 4.x I've been watching things happening in the netgraph directory in the CVS mailing list, but not known what was going on. Is this some sort of IP tunnelling thing? Does PPPoE mean "PPP over Ethernet?" What's it good for? Why are these telcos using it? Where can we read about it? By all means add it, if it's not going to break my system. But when it's there in my source tree, I'll probably want to fiddle with it... -- Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 3:47:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.vnet.net (smtp1.vnet.net [166.82.1.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE0514C38 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 03:47:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp1.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA07426; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 06:47:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA16973; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 06:47:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id GAA01547; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 06:47:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 06:47:02 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199911171147.GAA01547@lakes.dignus.com> To: freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net, rivers@dignus.com Subject: Re: ASUS P2B-S and FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE Cc: dkelly@hiwaay.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199911170402.UAA20072@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > And - just to keep everyone who's interested up-to-date; I just > > tried an FTP install and got an integer divide panic. Certainly > > not something most people get :-) And, likely not caused by the > > SCSI sub-system. > > I suspect memory at this point... given your other failure modes of > data corruption (checksum errors from cpio), kernel panics, etc. Yep - David Kelley suggested I slow the memory down. That improved things; but didn't fix them - I'm off to buy new memory today... - Thanks! - - Dave R. - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 5: 3:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F2A14BC2; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 05:02:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) id NAA41603; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 13:00:52 GMT (envelope-from joe) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 13:00:51 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: Andrew Reilly Cc: Julian Elischer , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, julian@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: netgraph into -stable. (fwd) Message-ID: <19991117130051.A4178@florence.pavilion.net> References: <19991117213653.A56017@gurney.reilly.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <19991117213653.A56017@gurney.reilly.home> X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 09:36:53PM +1100, Andrew Reilly wrote: > On Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 09:52:23PM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: > > I've been watching things happening in the netgraph directory in > the CVS mailing list, but not known what was going on. Is this > some sort of IP tunnelling thing? Does PPPoE mean "PPP over > Ethernet?" > This is IP over PPP over Ethernet, not IP over PPP over IP over Ethernet. There is an ethernet packet type for PPP packets. Lots of ISP are now offering a direct connection service like DSL, which appears to the user as an Ethernet interface that they plug into. PPPoEthernet is a good way of managing these users. Before the recent work on PPP and Netgraph FreeBSD users couldn't connect to service providers giving this type of connection. Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 5:31:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from buffy.tpgi.com.au (buffy.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B161514C0F for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 05:31:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eirvine@tpgi.com.au) Received: (from smtpd@localhost) by buffy.tpgi.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA12349 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 00:31:35 +1100 Received: from tar-56k-209.tpgi.com.au(203.26.26.209), claiming to be "tpgi.com.au" via SMTP by buffy.tpgi.com.au, id smtpdUdAjUx; Thu Nov 18 00:31:25 1999 Message-ID: <3832AE0E.7331B5F0@tpgi.com.au> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 00:30:54 +1100 From: eirvine X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Memory probe finds only 64Mb Dell 2300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Earlier last week I took delivery of a Dell 2300 with 128 Mb of RAM. Both the 3.3 Release Generic kernel and a fresh 3.3 stable kernel failed to probe the RAM correctly, and only found 64 Mb. A new kernel with MAXMEM set to 128*1024 found all the RAM and seems to be going fine. I thought this was no longer expected behaviour. Should I collect full details (BIOS version, dmesg, motherboard) and submit a full report? Or is this just normal? Eddie. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 6: 0:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bender.cl.msu.edu (bender.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3264B1529C for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 06:00:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from muk@bender.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from muk@localhost) by bender.cl.msu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA44802 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:01:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from muk) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:01:19 -0500 From: "Matthew A. Kolb" To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Memory probe finds only 64Mb Dell 2300 Message-ID: <19991117090119.A44760@bender.cl.msu.edu> References: <3832AE0E.7331B5F0@tpgi.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <3832AE0E.7331B5F0@tpgi.com.au>; from eirvine@tpgi.com.au on Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 12:30:54AM +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yep. we have 50+ of the 2300's and had to set MAXMEM on all of them. (the 64mb to 256mb jump was nice...hehehe) Apparently, the bios isn't passing the memory information properly on startup. ./kolb On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 12:30:54AM +1100, eirvine wrote: > Hi, > > Earlier last week I took delivery of a Dell 2300 with > 128 Mb of RAM. Both the 3.3 Release Generic kernel > and a fresh 3.3 stable kernel failed to probe the RAM > correctly, and only found 64 Mb. > > A new kernel with MAXMEM set to 128*1024 found all the RAM > and seems to be going fine. > > I thought this was no longer expected behaviour. Should I > collect full details (BIOS version, dmesg, motherboard) and > submit a full report? Or is this just normal? > > Eddie. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Matthew A. Kolb Michigan State University SCNC 110 Computer Center (517)355-4500 x 124 kolb@bender.cl.msu.edu "bugs?! we didn't have any bugs!" -jpc on SCNC v1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 6:32:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (sol.cc.u-szeged.hu [160.114.8.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F4F14CF1 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 06:31:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (8.9.1b+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id PAA17677; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:31:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local-smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 11o5uT-00014Y-00; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:18:09 +0100 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:18:09 +0100 (CET) From: Adam Szilveszter To: eirvine Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory probe finds only 64Mb Dell 2300 In-Reply-To: <3832AE0E.7331B5F0@tpgi.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, eirvine wrote: > Hi, > > Earlier last week I took delivery of a Dell 2300 with > 128 Mb of RAM. Both the 3.3 Release Generic kernel > and a fresh 3.3 stable kernel failed to probe the RAM > correctly, and only found 64 Mb. > > A new kernel with MAXMEM set to 128*1024 found all the RAM > and seems to be going fine. > > I thought this was no longer expected behaviour. Should I > collect full details (BIOS version, dmesg, motherboard) and > submit a full report? Or is this just normal? Hi! As fas as I know, this is, hm, not normal but usual behavior:-) Current BIOS-es still have problems with passing the correct memory size to the kernel, only the current limit for this seems to be 64M, earlier it was less. See good explanation in LINT file for more. Cheers! Szilveszter ADAM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Adam Szilveszter * JATE Szeged * email: sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu * * Homepage : none * alternate email: cc@flanker.itl.net.ua * * Finger sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu for PGP key. * * I prefer using the door instead of Windows(tm)... * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 8:15:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.vnet.net (smtp1.vnet.net [166.82.1.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323B214CCC for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:15:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp1.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA03462 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:15:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17393 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:15:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id LAA02894 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:15:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:15:12 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199911171615.LAA02894@lakes.dignus.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: My heartfelt thanks & appreciation! Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It has been a struggle - but thanks to everyone who has assisted - I was, at last, able to get 3.3-RELEASE properly installed on the P2B motherboard. The problem was a bad memory chip - *never* buy cheap memory! I just wanted to express my thanks to everyone, but especially to David Kelley who said (to summarize) "you've got bad memory." Thanks again! - Dave Rivers - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 8:19:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (diarmadhi.mushhaven.net [63.75.111.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C13014D74 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:19:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mistwolf@diarmadhi.mushhaven.net) Received: (from mistwolf@localhost) by diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA97400; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:18:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mistwolf) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:18:56 -0800 From: Jamie Norwood To: Thomas David Rivers Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: My heartfelt thanks & appreciation! Message-ID: <19991117081856.A97384@mushhaven.net> References: <199911171615.LAA02894@lakes.dignus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <199911171615.LAA02894@lakes.dignus.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Heh, I know that feeling; my wife's and mine computers have been crashing hourly for a few weeks, and the only thing I could think of was the really good price the no-name, generic ram had that day at Fry's... Went to www.valueram.com and bought new ram for us, nice Kingston stuff, and been rock-solid since. Jamie On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 11:15:12AM -0500, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > > It has been a struggle - but thanks to everyone who has > assisted - I was, at last, able to get 3.3-RELEASE properly > installed on the P2B motherboard. > > The problem was a bad memory chip - *never* buy cheap memory! > > I just wanted to express my thanks to everyone, but especially > to David Kelley who said (to summarize) "you've got bad memory." > > Thanks again! > > - Dave Rivers - > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 8:23:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (diarmadhi.mushhaven.net [63.75.111.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E7C1527D for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:23:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mistwolf@diarmadhi.mushhaven.net) Received: (from mistwolf@localhost) by diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA97478 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:22:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mistwolf) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:22:39 -0800 From: Jamie Norwood To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Odd error Message-ID: <19991117082239.A97460@mushhaven.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Should I be worried about this error? --- 8:21am Wed Nov 17 1999 on ttyp5 diarmadhi:/home/mistwolf> su - Password: panic: kernel trap (ignored) diarmadhi# logout --- Thanks! Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 8:31:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gta.com (mailgate.gta.com [199.120.225.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FFD214D74 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:31:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lab@gta.com) Received: from gta.com (GTA internal mail system) by gta.com id LAA07864; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:33:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:33:09 -0500 (EST) From: Larry Baird Message-Id: <199911171633.LAA07864@gta.com> To: Thomas David Rivers To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ASUS P2B-S and FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <199911171147.GAA01547@lakes.dignus.com> Organization: Global Technology Associates, Inc. User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980818 ("Laura") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.3-STABLE (i386)) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> I suspect memory at this point... given your other failure modes of >> data corruption (checksum errors from cpio), kernel panics, etc. > Yep - David Kelley suggested I slow the memory down. > That improved things; but didn't fix them - I'm off to buy new > memory today... I recently had a similar problem with a ASUS P2B-F motherboard and a 450 PIII. Random crashes for no apparent reason once or twice a day. I disabled cache on the 450 and everything worked great for days. Arranged a processor swap with the vendor I bought the processor from. Haven't had a crash since I put the new processor in. Larry -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Larry Baird Global Technology Associates, Inc. | Orlando, FL Email: lab@gta.com | TEL 407-380-0220, FAX 407-380-6080 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 8:38: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dontpanic.gtf.ol.no (dontpanic.gtf.ol.no [128.39.174.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74BD715309 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:37:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trond@dontpanic.gtf.ol.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by dontpanic.gtf.ol.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA92053; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:37:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@dontpanic.gtf.ol.no) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:37:44 +0100 (CET) From: Trond Endrestol To: Jamie Norwood Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Odd error In-Reply-To: <19991117082239.A97460@mushhaven.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Jamie Norwood wrote: > Should I be worried about this error? > --- > 8:21am Wed Nov 17 1999 on ttyp5 diarmadhi:/home/mistwolf> su - > Password: > panic: kernel trap (ignored) > diarmadhi# logout > --- This is a fortune/joke from the fortune programme. Take a look at /usr/share/games/fortune/fortunes and search for «panic». If you don't like this, then comment out the (last) line in the /.cshrc file. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Trond Endrestøl | trond@dontpanic.gtf.ol.no Merkantilvegen 59HB7, | tronde@ramstind.gtf.ol.no N-2815 GJØVIK, NORWAY |+47 61139424 || +47 63874242 Patron of The Art of Computer Programming| FreeBSD 3.3 & Pine 4.10 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 8:39:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (diarmadhi.mushhaven.net [63.75.111.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D7F14EEB for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:39:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mistwolf@diarmadhi.mushhaven.net) Received: (from mistwolf@localhost) by diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA97607; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:38:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mistwolf) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:38:35 -0800 From: Jamie Norwood To: Trond Endrestol Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Odd error Message-ID: <19991117083835.A97589@mushhaven.net> References: <19991117082239.A97460@mushhaven.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG And now I .really. feel stupid. I should have known that when I didn't get a fortune that su. *blush* These pre-dawn workdays have GOT to end. ;) Jamie On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 05:37:44PM +0100, Trond Endrestol wrote: > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Jamie Norwood wrote: > > > Should I be worried about this error? > > --- > > 8:21am Wed Nov 17 1999 on ttyp5 diarmadhi:/home/mistwolf> su - > > Password: > > panic: kernel trap (ignored) > > diarmadhi# logout > > --- > This is a fortune/joke from the fortune programme. > Take a look at /usr/share/games/fortune/fortunes and search for > «panic». > > If you don't like this, then comment out the (last) line in the > /.cshrc file. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Trond Endrestøl | trond@dontpanic.gtf.ol.no > Merkantilvegen 59HB7, | tronde@ramstind.gtf.ol.no > N-2815 GJØVIK, NORWAY |+47 61139424 || +47 63874242 > Patron of The Art of Computer Programming| FreeBSD 3.3 & Pine 4.10 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 9:10:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1E5014C05 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:10:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p24-dn03kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [210.232.224.153]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) with ESMTP id CAA01200; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 02:10:23 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3832D800.14E0B090@newsguy.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 01:29:52 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Quinlan Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Slapd (LDAP) Problems References: <000001bf301f$c1c955a0$021d85d1@youwant.to> <00af01bf3025$955a27a0$5214010a@swlct.sthames.nhs.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Quinlan wrote: > > The only difference I can see is that the development of openldap, is as its > name suggests, "open." That any modifications to the "core standard product" > be publicly shared, and properly documented. Selling Openldap as a separate > product is also NOT allowed. Selling support, Selling it as part of another > product, Selling installation of it.....etc is permitted. Essentially your > not allowed to steal-it call it your own!!! > > This is surely a good thing? We, people who prefer BSD over GPL, think it is not. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "Then again maybe not going to heaven would be a blessing. Relkin liked a certain amount of peace and harmony, since there'd been a pronounced shortage of them in his own life; however, nothing but peace and harmony, forever and forever? He wasn't sure about that. And no beer? Very dubious proposition." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 9:33:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1178914A15 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:33:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.0.4] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 11o8a0-0008nN-00; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:09:12 +0000 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.092 #1) id 11o8a0-0000K9-00; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:09:12 +0000 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:09:12 +0000 From: Ben Smithurst To: Jamie Norwood Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Odd error Message-ID: <19991117170912.A1221@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <19991117082239.A97460@mushhaven.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <19991117082239.A97460@mushhaven.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jamie Norwood wrote: > Should I be worried about this error? > --- > 8:21am Wed Nov 17 1999 on ttyp5 diarmadhi:/home/mistwolf> su - > Password: > panic: kernel trap (ignored) > diarmadhi# logout > --- not really... ben@strontium:~$ fortune -m "kernel trap" %% (fortunes) panic: kernel trap (ignored) -- Ben Smithurst | PGP: 0x99392F7D ben@scientia.demon.co.uk | key available from keyservers and | ben+pgp@scientia.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 9:52:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cantor.boolean.net (cantor.boolean.net [209.133.111.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9FB14D0F for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:52:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Kurt@OpenLDAP.Org) Received: from gypsy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cantor.boolean.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA56198; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:52:09 GMT (envelope-from Kurt@OpenLDAP.Org) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991117095030.00a705a0@localhost> X-Sender: guru@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:50:30 -0800 To: "Daniel C. Sobral" From: "Kurt D. Zeilenga" Subject: Re: Slapd (LDAP) Problems Cc: Greg Quinlan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3832D800.14E0B090@newsguy.com> References: <000001bf301f$c1c955a0$021d85d1@youwant.to> <00af01bf3025$955a27a0$5214010a@swlct.sthames.nhs.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 01:29 AM 11/18/99 +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: >Greg Quinlan wrote: >> >> The only difference I can see is that the development of openldap, is as its >> name suggests, "open." That any modifications to the "core standard product" >> be publicly shared, and properly documented. My original thoughts as to using the word "open" in OpenLDAP was to refer our "open" development process and our "open" use policies. >> Selling Openldap as a separate product is also NOT allowed. This is actually not true. We (the OpenLDAP Foundation) do allow such. In where this is not allowed by the OPL to which your copy was provided, we offer (without fee) alternative licensing. In particular, we authorize use of OpenLDAP 1.x under the terms of OPL 2.0 (used for development and future major releases). OPL 2.0 is quite unrestrictive. >> Selling support, Selling it as part of another >> product, Selling installation of it.....etc is permitted. yes, yes, yes, yes. >>Essentially your not allowed to steal-it call it your own!!! OPL 2.0 can be summarized as "don't delete the notice, don't sue us, don't pretend you are us". >> This is surely a good thing? > >We, people who prefer BSD over GPL, think it is not. See OPL 2.0. http://www.openldap.org/devel/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~//LICENSE?rev=1.11 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 10:21:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE54915317 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:21:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14728 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:21:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Anticipated release date for 3.4 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:21:20 -0800 Message-ID: <14724.942862880@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Will be December 15th. The traditional code slush will go into effect on the 1st. November would be an excellent month for merging your changes, after which I'll be exercising my usual perogative of inspecting all potential changes with a more jaundiced eye. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 10:51:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vinyl.sentex.ca (vinyl.sentex.ca [209.112.4.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82A515312 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:51:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite-atm.sentex.ca [209.112.4.1]) by vinyl.sentex.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16285; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 13:51:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA18997; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 13:51:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991117134923.00f78710@staff.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@staff.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 13:49:23 -0500 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 In-Reply-To: <14724.942862880@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:21 AM 11/17/99 -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >Will be December 15th. The traditional code slush will go into effect >on the 1st. November would be an excellent month for merging your >changes, after which I'll be exercising my usual perogative of >inspecting all potential changes with a more jaundiced eye. :) Will there be a push to integrate the new bind into 3.4 ? ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 10:52:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dialup90.apex.dp.ua (dialup90.apex.dp.ua [195.24.139.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE47615311 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:52:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from voland@dialup90.apex.dp.ua) Received: (from voland@localhost) by dialup90.apex.dp.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA15631; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 20:52:26 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from voland) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: pwd_mkdb max uid warning. From: Vadim Belman Date: 17 Nov 1999 20:51:48 +0200 Message-ID: <85iu312bp7.fsf@dialup90.apex.dp.ua> Lines: 18 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Recently I answered a question concerning maximum valid UID value. I had created a new user with UID 1000000 using pw utility. Everything went smoothly, but pwd_mkdb warned about creation of UID bigger than 65535. I found this piece of code in /usr/src/usr.sbin/pwd_mkdb/pw_scan.c: if (id > USHRT_MAX) { warnx("%s > max uid value (%d)", p, USHRT_MAX); /*return (0);*/ /* THIS SHOULD NOT BE FATAL! */ } I see only one reason for this: for keeping compatibility with old utilities which don't use uid_t but relay on unsigned short values. Am I right? Is there any other reason? Or, perhaps, this code is obsolete and may be removed without harm? -- /Voland Vadim Belman E-mail: voland@plab.ku.dk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 10:59:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C02914BD8 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:59:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca ([204.244.186.218]) by mail2.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 3.03 #4) id 11oAIw-0001Fb-00; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:59:42 -0800 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:59:40 -0800 (PST) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Vadim Belman Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb max uid warning. In-Reply-To: <85iu312bp7.fsf@dialup90.apex.dp.ua> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 17 Nov 1999, Vadim Belman wrote: > Recently I answered a question concerning maximum valid UID > value. I had created a new user with UID 1000000 using pw > utility. Everything went smoothly, but pwd_mkdb warned about > creation of UID bigger than 65535. I found this piece of code in > /usr/src/usr.sbin/pwd_mkdb/pw_scan.c: > > if (id > USHRT_MAX) { > warnx("%s > max uid value (%d)", p, USHRT_MAX); > /*return (0);*/ /* THIS SHOULD NOT BE FATAL! */ > } > > I see only one reason for this: for keeping compatibility with old > utilities which don't use uid_t but relay on unsigned short > values. Am I right? Is there any other reason? Or, perhaps, this > code is obsolete and may be removed without harm? I expect that there are many problems with uids > 65535. 16 bit uids are assumed by many protocols and data formats. For instance, NFSv2 wouldn't support uids > 65535. A lot of people are still using NFSv2, and should be warned about possible problems. > -- > /Voland Vadim Belman > E-mail: voland@plab.ku.dk Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 11: 4:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dialup90.apex.dp.ua (dialup90.apex.dp.ua [195.24.139.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D069C14D28 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:04:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from voland@dialup90.apex.dp.ua) Received: (from voland@localhost) by dialup90.apex.dp.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA18601; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:04:29 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from voland) Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Comment-To: Vadim Belman To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb max uid warning. References: <85iu312bp7.fsf@dialup90.apex.dp.ua> From: Vadim Belman In-Reply-To: Vadim Belman's message of "17 Nov 1999 20:51:48 +0200" Date: 17 Nov 1999 21:03:50 +0200 Message-ID: <85bt8t2b55.fsf@dialup90.apex.dp.ua> Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Vadim! On 17 Nov 99 at 20:51, "Vadim" (Vadim Belman) wrote: Vadim> with old utilities which don't use uid_t but relay on unsigned Opps, excuse me for for mistype: I meant 'rely'. -- /Voland Vadim Belman E-mail: voland@plab.ku.dk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 12:55:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA9C14D97 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:55:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA11480; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 14:55:30 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-83.tnt1.rac.cyberlynk.net(209.224.182.83) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma011476; Wed Nov 17 14:55:20 1999 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19991117145405.014e9970@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 14:54:05 -0600 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 In-Reply-To: <14724.942862880@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:21 AM 11/17/99 -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >Will be December 15th. The traditional code slush will go into effect >on the 1st. November would be an excellent month for merging your >changes, after which I'll be exercising my usual perogative of >inspecting all potential changes with a more jaundiced eye. :) What happened to every 4 months? Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve '86 Yamaha MaxiumX (not FBSD powered) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 13:31: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FFBF14F19 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 13:30:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA67623; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 23:30:23 +0200 (SAT) (envelope-from jhay) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199911172130.XAA67623@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19991117145405.014e9970@207.227.119.2> from "Jeffrey J. Mountin" at "Nov 17, 1999 02:54:05 pm" To: jeff-ml@mountin.net (Jeffrey J. Mountin) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 23:30:23 +0200 (SAT) Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard), stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > At 10:21 AM 11/17/99 -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > >Will be December 15th. The traditional code slush will go into effect > >on the 1st. November would be an excellent month for merging your > >changes, after which I'll be exercising my usual perogative of > >inspecting all potential changes with a more jaundiced eye. :) > > What happened to every 4 months? I think Jordan is just scared his build machine won't survive the Y2K rollover, so he wants to get 3.4 out of the door before then. :-)))) John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 13:33:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from typhoon.mail.pipex.net (typhoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 02B41153C5 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 13:33:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: (qmail 21124 invoked from network); 17 Nov 1999 21:20:03 -0000 Received: from userbl16.uk.uudial.com (HELO marder-1.) (62.188.144.123) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 1999 21:20:03 -0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id VAA01084; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:19:10 GMT (envelope-from mark) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:19:10 +0000 From: Mark Ovens To: Ben Smithurst Cc: Jamie Norwood , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Odd error Message-ID: <19991117211910.D316@marder-1> References: <19991117082239.A97460@mushhaven.net> <19991117170912.A1221@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <19991117170912.A1221@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 05:09:12PM +0000, Ben Smithurst wrote: > Jamie Norwood wrote: > > > Should I be worried about this error? > > --- > > 8:21am Wed Nov 17 1999 on ttyp5 diarmadhi:/home/mistwolf> su - > > Password: > > panic: kernel trap (ignored) > > diarmadhi# logout > > --- > > not really... > > ben@strontium:~$ fortune -m "kernel trap" > %% (fortunes) > panic: kernel trap (ignored) > Don't worry about Security check: INTRUDER ALERT! complete with several beeps either. That one tripped me up once :( > -- > Ben Smithurst | PGP: 0x99392F7D > ben@scientia.demon.co.uk | key available from keyservers and > | ben+pgp@scientia.demon.co.uk > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- STATE-OF-THE-ART: Any computer you can't afford. OBSOLETE: Any computer you own. ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 13:35:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C161539A for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 13:35:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.92 #3) id 11oCjg-0006SJ-00; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:35:29 +0000 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:35:28 +0000 (GMT) From: Jonathon McKitrick To: John Hay Cc: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 In-Reply-To: <199911172130.XAA67623@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just out of curiosity, how many hours a day do the FreeBSD volunteers on average spend working on the next STABLE, RELEASE, and CURRENT incarnations of this wonderful OS? On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, John Hay wrote: >> At 10:21 AM 11/17/99 -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> >Will be December 15th. The traditional code slush will go into effect >> >on the 1st. November would be an excellent month for merging your >> >changes, after which I'll be exercising my usual perogative of >> >inspecting all potential changes with a more jaundiced eye. :) >> >> What happened to every 4 months? > >I think Jordan is just scared his build machine won't survive the Y2K >rollover, so he wants to get 3.4 out of the door before then. :-)))) > >John >-- >John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -jonathon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 13:36:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vinyl.sentex.ca (vinyl.sentex.ca [209.112.4.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 496C1153A5 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 13:36:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite-atm.sentex.ca [209.112.4.1]) by vinyl.sentex.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA37077 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:36:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA14119 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:36:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991117163421.017173c0@staff.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@staff.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:34:21 -0500 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 In-Reply-To: <199911172130.XAA67623@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> References: <3.0.3.32.19991117145405.014e9970@207.227.119.2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:30 PM 11/17/99 +0200, John Hay wrote: >> At 10:21 AM 11/17/99 -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> >Will be December 15th. The traditional code slush will go into effect >> >> What happened to every 4 months? > >I think Jordan is just scared his build machine won't survive the Y2K >rollover, so he wants to get 3.4 out of the door before then. :-)))) Chrismas sales ? Although that would be pushing it to have it under the tree. ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 14: 5:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from m4.c2.telstra-mm.net.au (m4.c2.telstra-mm.net.au [24.192.3.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619E615350 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 14:05:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from areilly@nsw.bigpond.net.au) Received: from m5.c2.telstra-mm.net.au (m5.c2.telstra-mm.net.au [24.192.3.20]) by m4.c2.telstra-mm.net.au (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA08388 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:05:15 +1100 (EDT) X-BPC-Relay-Envelope-From: areilly@nsw.bigpond.net.au X-BPC-Relay-Envelope-To: X-BPC-Relay-Sender-Host: m5.c2.telstra-mm.net.au [24.192.3.20] X-BPC-Relay-Info: Message delivered directly. Received: from areilly.bpc-users.org (CPE-24-192-49-170.nsw.bigpond.net.au [24.192.49.170]) by m5.c2.telstra-mm.net.au (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with SMTP id JAA19582 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:05:14 +1100 (EDT) Received: (qmail 95830 invoked by uid 1000); 17 Nov 1999 22:05:14 -0000 From: "Andrew Reilly" Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:05:14 +1100 To: Josef Karthauser Cc: Julian Elischer , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: netgraph into -stable. (fwd) Message-ID: <19991118090514.A95037@gurney.reilly.home> References: <19991117213653.A56017@gurney.reilly.home> <19991117130051.A4178@florence.pavilion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <19991117130051.A4178@florence.pavilion.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 01:00:51PM +0000, Josef Karthauser wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 09:36:53PM +1100, Andrew Reilly wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 09:52:23PM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > > I've been watching things happening in the netgraph directory in > > the CVS mailing list, but not known what was going on. Is this > > some sort of IP tunnelling thing? Does PPPoE mean "PPP over > > Ethernet?" > > > > This is IP over PPP over Ethernet, not IP over PPP over IP over Ethernet. > There is an ethernet packet type for PPP packets. Lots of ISP are now > offering a direct connection service like DSL, which appears to the user > as an Ethernet interface that they plug into. PPPoEthernet is a good > way of managing these users. Before the recent work on PPP and Netgraph > FreeBSD users couldn't connect to service providers giving this type > of connection. Ah. That actually sounds like a good idea. I'm on a cable internet connection myself, and the "log in" procedure is a little backwards, compared to what you would expect on a dialup: the DHCP and acquisition of an IP address occurrs _before_ the authentication protocol runs, because the latter runs over IP. Basically the network runs all the time, for whoever plugs into it, looking for all the world like an Ethernet. The routers only let packets through for systems that have authenticated properly. How does a PPPoE system know when you've disconnected? Is there a keepalive scheme? The cable authentication system here (BIDS2, apparently an HP thing) keeps the routers open as long as you respond to the regular heartbeat messages. -- Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 14:53:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C1E14D57 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 14:53:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (jack@localhost) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02946; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:53:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:53:26 -0500 (EST) From: jack To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19991117145405.014e9970@207.227.119.2> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Today Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > At 10:21 AM 11/17/99 -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > >Will be December 15th. The traditional code slush will go into effect > >on the 1st. November would be an excellent month for merging your > >changes, after which I'll be exercising my usual perogative of > >inspecting all potential changes with a more jaundiced eye. :) > > What happened to every 4 months? IIRC, that metamorphized into 4 releases per year. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 14:54: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE2815024 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 14:54:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from carl@xena.aipo.gov.au) Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA04940; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:53:06 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from carl@xena.aipo.gov.au) Received: from newton.aipo.gov.au(10.0.100.18) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma004928; Thu, 18 Nov 99 09:53:03 +1100 Received: from localhost (carl@localhost) by newton.aipo.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA36150; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:53:01 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from carl@xena.aipo.gov.au) X-Authentication-Warning: newton.aipo.gov.au: carl owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:53:01 +1100 (EST) From: Carl Makin X-Sender: carl@newton.aipo.gov.au To: Adam Szilveszter Cc: eirvine , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Memory probe finds only 64Mb Dell 2300 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Adam Szilveszter wrote: > On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, eirvine wrote: > > > Earlier last week I took delivery of a Dell 2300 with > > 128 Mb of RAM. Both the 3.3 Release Generic kernel > > and a fresh 3.3 stable kernel failed to probe the RAM > > correctly, and only found 64 Mb. > As fas as I know, this is, hm, not normal but usual behavior:-) Current > BIOS-es still have problems with passing the correct memory size to the We have Dell 2300, 4300 and 6300's and all need MAXMEM to detect the RAM. Carl. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 15:11:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.structured.net (mail.structured.net [206.58.0.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F7614C0C for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:11:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from beowulf@structured.net) Received: from pickwick.sns-access.com (pickwick.sns-access.com [206.58.0.33]) by mail.structured.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17985 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:01:20 -0800 (PST) From: Chad Monteith Received: (from beowulf@localhost) by pickwick.sns-access.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) id PAA14248 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:01:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:01:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911172301.PAA14248@pickwick.sns-access.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: router + squid + SmartFilter in Linux Emulation Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, k: er, after some changes to the code applied before compilation. My Q is this: Can the Linux emulator support emulating a plug-in binary? Note: Squid is BSD compiled, but the SF plug is a linux binary. Am I in a futile endeavor, or has this worked before? Thanks Chad To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 15:17: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.structured.net (mail.structured.net [206.58.0.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 762FF14E52 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:17:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from beowulf@sns-access.com) Received: from pickwick (pickwick.sns-access.com [206.58.0.33]) by mail.structured.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA18849 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:17:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:16:59 -0800 (PST) From: Chad Monteith X-Sender: beowulf@pickwick To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: router + squid + SmartFilter in Linux Emulation Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thats what I get for pasting into /bin/mail :) So I make more sense: I have a 3.3 box setup as a router. It is transparently filtering to the squid on the same machine. Secure Computing has a program, SmartFilter. It comes as a linux binary that plugs into squid, after some pre-compile patching. Has anybody had any luck running a BSD compiled program with a linux plug-in using the linux emulator? Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Chad Monteith Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 04:01 PM To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: router + squid + SmartFilter in Linux Emulation Hello, k: er, after some changes to the code applied before compilation. My Q is this: Can the Linux emulator support emulating a plug-in binary? Note: Squid is BSD compiled, but the SF plug is a linux binary. Am I in a futile endeavor, or has this worked before? Thanks Chad To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 15:31:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from luna.lyris.net (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B72E14F64 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:31:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kip@lyris.com) Received: from luna.shelby.com by luna.lyris.net (8.9.1b+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id PAA17913; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:31:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by luna.shelby.com with SMTP (MailShield v1.50); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:31:24 -0800 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:31:24 -0800 (PST) From: Kip Macy X-Sender: kip@luna To: Chad Monteith Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: router + squid + SmartFilter in Linux Emulation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-SMTP-HELO: luna X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: kip@lyris.com X-SMTP-RCPT-TO: beowulf@sns-access.com,freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am not sure that that could work. My understanding is that emulation only works for self-standing executables, whereas plug-ins are typically dynamic libraries. So you are in effect trying to get a BSD binary to use a linux library. -Kip On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Chad Monteith wrote: > Thats what I get for pasting into /bin/mail :) > > So I make more sense: > I have a 3.3 box setup as a router. It is transparently filtering to the > squid on the same machine. > Secure Computing has a program, SmartFilter. It comes as a linux binary > that plugs into squid, after some pre-compile patching. > Has anybody had any luck running a BSD compiled program with a linux > plug-in using the linux emulator? > > Thanks! > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Chad Monteith > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 04:01 PM > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: router + squid + SmartFilter in Linux Emulation > > > Hello, > k: > er, after some changes to the code applied before compilation. > My Q is this: Can the Linux emulator support emulating a plug-in > binary? Note: Squid is BSD compiled, but the SF plug is a linux binary. > > Am I in a futile endeavor, or has this worked before? > > Thanks > > Chad > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 16:22:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4035314D43 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:22:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt4-208-166-127-248.dialup.HiWAAY.net [208.166.127.248]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA08472; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 18:22:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA21470; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 18:06:45 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Message-Id: <199911180006.SAA21470@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Andrew Reilly Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , rivers@dignus.com (Thomas David Rivers), dkelly@hiwaay.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: ASUS P2B-S and FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE In-reply-to: Message from Andrew Reilly of "Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:44:32 +1100." <99111716482700.39935@gurney.reilly.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 18:06:45 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andrew Reilly writes: > > Fair enough. I didn't realise that an extra-card '875 would be cheaper > than the on-board Adaptec. I'm onto my second built-in-Adaptec motherboard > (first iwill, now gigabyte), and they've both worked like champs. I > remember them being less expensive than the equivelant board+Adaptec card, > but probably didn't compare them to the '875 for price. My Asus P2B-S MB was about $325, or roughly the price of a functionally similar Adaptec 2940U2W. Asus includes an U2W cable with LVD terminator, a plain wide SCSI cable, narrow SCSI cable, and another for wide external connection. So for $200 over a plain P2B-F its a good value, but not a huge bargain. Then after chosing onboard Adaptec SCSI I bought a separate Intel Etherexpess 10/100 NIC rather than buy one on the Asus MB. Just no accounting for what us consumers will do.... :-) Actually was concerned with a volage differential in the building on the ethernet wires messing up my MB, so I bought a "disposable" PCI card that will hopefully isolate anything from the other components. I tend to favor keeping my tape and CD-R drives on a separate SCSI bus from the HD's. Its time to buy another '875 card. This vendor lists Symbios brand PCI cards for $65, any good or bad feedback? http://www.centrix-intl.com/ -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 17: 6:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp5.jps.net (smtp5.jps.net [209.63.224.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62ABF1501E for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:06:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from onemo@jps.net) Received: from jps.net (216-224-143-234.stk.jps.net [216.224.143.234]) by smtp5.jps.net (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id RAA17907; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:06:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38334F9D.1E06C1C7@jps.net> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:00:13 -0800 From: Michael Oski X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 References: <14724.942862880@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jordan K. Hubbard" exclaimed: > Will be December 15th. The traditional code slush will go into effect > on the 1st. November would be an excellent month for merging your > changes, after which I'll be exercising my usual perogative of > inspecting all potential changes with a more jaundiced eye. :) > > - Jordan > You know, "they" probably have some drops or salve for the "jaundiced eye" problem... ;-P MO! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 17:26:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5306115172 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:26:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16575; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:25:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 Nov 1999 14:54:05 CST." <3.0.3.32.19991117145405.014e9970@207.227.119.2> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:25:50 -0800 Message-ID: <16571.942888350@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > At 10:21 AM 11/17/99 -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > >Will be December 15th. The traditional code slush will go into effect > >on the 1st. November would be an excellent month for merging your > >changes, after which I'll be exercising my usual perogative of > >inspecting all potential changes with a more jaundiced eye. :) > > What happened to every 4 months? Sometimes we are able to hit that schedule and sometimes not. In this case, some constraints on my time coupled with CD replication schedules made a December release date a lot more practical than a January or February one. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 18:32:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id 0F05314A1D; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 18:32:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F07311CD446; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 18:32:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@hub.freebsd.org) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 18:32:29 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: Chad Monteith Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: router + squid + SmartFilter in Linux Emulation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Chad Monteith wrote: > Thats what I get for pasting into /bin/mail :) > > So I make more sense: > I have a 3.3 box setup as a router. It is transparently filtering to the > squid on the same machine. > Secure Computing has a program, SmartFilter. It comes as a linux binary > that plugs into squid, after some pre-compile patching. > Has anybody had any luck running a BSD compiled program with a linux > plug-in using the linux emulator? I doubt it would work unless it's actually a separate binary executable which is run (i.e. as a coprocess/helper app). You'd probably have better luck cross-compiling squid into a linux executable. Kris ---- Cthulhu for President! For when you're tired of choosing the _lesser_ of two evils.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 20:52:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hobbits.brel.com (hobbits.brel.com [203.127.231.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095DA14C0C for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 20:52:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from calvinng@hobbits.brel.com) Received: by hobbits.brel.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AE8B3331B; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:52:47 +0800 (SGT) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:52:47 +0800 From: Calvin NG To: John Hay Cc: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 Message-ID: <19991118125247.B3347@brel.com> References: <3.0.3.32.19991117145405.014e9970@207.227.119.2> <199911172130.XAA67623@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <199911172130.XAA67623@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za>; from jhay@mikom.csir.co.za on Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 11:30:23PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings, Actually, I think JKH is giving users of "the other OSes" a chance, ( and a better reason) to switch over before Y2K. :-) BTW, I doubt the CDs will arrive before Y2K. Will it?? Regards, /calvin lines with :> are quotes from John Hay's email :> > At 10:21 AM 11/17/99 -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: :> > >Will be December 15th. The traditional code slush will go into effect :> > >on the 1st. November would be an excellent month for merging your :> > >changes, after which I'll be exercising my usual perogative of :> > >inspecting all potential changes with a more jaundiced eye. :) :> > :> > What happened to every 4 months? :> :> I think Jordan is just scared his build machine won't survive the Y2K :> rollover, so he wants to get 3.4 out of the door before then. :-)))) :> :> John :> -- :> John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za :> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 17 22:43:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (finland.ispro.net.tr [212.174.120.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85DD14BE3 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 22:43:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA75799; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 08:43:36 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 08:43:36 +0200 (EET) From: Evren Yurtesen To: Vadim Belman Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb max uid warning. In-Reply-To: <85iu312bp7.fsf@dialup90.apex.dp.ua> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You are right I guess... last time I tried to generate a user with ID of 10000 If I remember right... I have found out that the quotas are not working for that user and there are some other problems. (I do not remember very clearly) +---------------------------------------------------------+ | Name : Evren Yurtesen - yurtesen@ispro.net.tr | | Job Title : Technical Consultant & System Administrator| | S-Mail : Talikkokatu 6B 26, Turku 20540, Finland | | Work Tel. : +90-232-2463992 | | Mobile Tel.: +358-40-5073940 | +---------------------------------------------------------+ On 17 Nov 1999, Vadim Belman wrote: > Recently I answered a question concerning maximum valid UID > value. I had created a new user with UID 1000000 using pw > utility. Everything went smoothly, but pwd_mkdb warned about > creation of UID bigger than 65535. I found this piece of code in > /usr/src/usr.sbin/pwd_mkdb/pw_scan.c: > > if (id > USHRT_MAX) { > warnx("%s > max uid value (%d)", p, USHRT_MAX); > /*return (0);*/ /* THIS SHOULD NOT BE FATAL! */ > } > > I see only one reason for this: for keeping compatibility with old > utilities which don't use uid_t but relay on unsigned short > values. Am I right? Is there any other reason? Or, perhaps, this > code is obsolete and may be removed without harm? > -- > /Voland Vadim Belman > E-mail: voland@plab.ku.dk > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 0:46:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CEFF14FC2; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 00:46:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.040 #1) id 11oNCu-000438-00; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:46:20 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Vadim Belman Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, marcel@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb max uid warning. In-reply-to: Your message of "17 Nov 1999 20:51:48 +0200." <85iu312bp7.fsf@dialup90.apex.dp.ua> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:46:20 +0200 Message-ID: <15569.942914780@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 17 Nov 1999 20:51:48 +0200, Vadim Belman wrote: > I see only one reason for this: for keeping compatibility with > old utilities which don't use uid_t but relay on unsigned short > values. Am I right? Is there any other reason? Or, perhaps, this > code is obsolete and may be removed without harm? This code is not obsolete. Bruce Evans brought to my attention at least two problem areas: IDs used by NFS, and IDs used by the linuxulator. The latter one is interesting... The linuxulator will take a UID that overflows a u_int16_t by 1 (resulting in the value 0) as root's UID. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 0:50:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C84150B3 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 00:50:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.040 #1) id 11oNGm-00044E-00; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:50:20 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Vadim Belman Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb max uid warning. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:46:20 +0200." <15569.942914780@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:50:19 +0200 Message-ID: <15637.942915019@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:46:20 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > This code is not obsolete. Bruce Evans brought to my attention at least > two problem areas: IDs used by NFS, and IDs used by the linuxulator. Bleh, I didn't finish my message. :-( I recently added to pwd_mkdb(8) in CURRENT, an option (-q) to suppress warnings about large IDs. The interesting revisions are: rev 1.11 pw_scan.c rev 1.2 pw_scan.h rev 1.13 pwd_mkdb.8 rev 1.33 pwd_mkdb.c I'm not sure whether this will be merged to the STABLE branch. I certainly can't see any reason why it shouldn't be. Just remember, should you choose to use this option, that it doesn't resolve the issues surrounding large IDs; it just allows you to silence the warnings if you don't care about the issues. :-) Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 1:22: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81EA41531B for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 01:21:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel@scc.nl) Received: from [212.238.132.94] (helo=scones.sup.scc.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11oNlX-000OwA-00; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:22:08 +0000 Received: from scc.nl (scones.sup.scc.nl [192.168.2.4]) by scones.sup.scc.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA50232; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:21:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marcel@scc.nl) Message-ID: <3833C51E.3DA48CE5@scc.nl> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:21:34 +0100 From: Marcel Moolenaar Organization: SCC vof X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: Vadim Belman , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb max uid warning. References: <15569.942914780@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > On 17 Nov 1999 20:51:48 +0200, Vadim Belman wrote: > > > I see only one reason for this: for keeping compatibility with > > old utilities which don't use uid_t but relay on unsigned short > > values. Am I right? Is there any other reason? Or, perhaps, this > > code is obsolete and may be removed without harm? > > This code is not obsolete. Bruce Evans brought to my attention at least > two problem areas: IDs used by NFS, and IDs used by the linuxulator. > The latter one is interesting... The linuxulator will take a UID that > overflows a u_int16_t by 1 (resulting in the value 0) as root's UID. I'm thinking of introducing a mapping for this. Every uid/gid that can't be represented by the Linuxulator can optionally be mapped onto a single uid/gid (settable through sysctl). -- Marcel Moolenaar mailto:marcel@scc.nl SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ The FreeBSD project mailto:marcel@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 1:23:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1428515371 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 01:23:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.040 #1) id 11oNmO-0004FP-00; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:23:00 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Marcel Moolenaar Cc: Vadim Belman , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb max uid warning. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:21:34 +0100." <3833C51E.3DA48CE5@scc.nl> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:23:00 +0200 Message-ID: <16330.942916980@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:21:34 +0100, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > I'm thinking of introducing a mapping for this. Every uid/gid that can't > be represented by the Linuxulator can optionally be mapped onto a single > uid/gid (settable through sysctl). Sounds better than the existing mapping. ;-) Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 2:32:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590C9153D3 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 02:32:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA52337; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:30:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des) To: Jonathon McKitrick Cc: John Hay , "Jeffrey J. Mountin" , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 18 Nov 1999 11:30:58 +0100 In-Reply-To: Jonathon McKitrick's message of "Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:35:28 +0000 (GMT)" Message-ID: Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070097 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.97) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jonathon McKitrick writes: > Just out of curiosity, how many hours a day do the FreeBSD volunteers on > average spend working on the next STABLE, RELEASE, and CURRENT > incarnations of this wonderful OS? Way too much, and way too little. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 2:41: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4967815390 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 02:41:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA52402; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:41:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: inetd(8) MFCed. From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 18 Nov 1999 11:41:00 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 7 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070097 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.97) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've merged the latest inetd(8) from -CURRENT, so -STABLE's inetd now has a fully function built-in ident server, and should no longer be vulnerable to the 'nmap -sT' DoS. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 3:27:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rzmail.uni-trier.de (rzmail.uni-trier.de [136.199.8.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C8C153B5 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 03:27:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blank@uni-trier.de) Received: from uni-trier.de (root@rzppp-62.uni-trier.de [136.199.4.62]) by rzmail.uni-trier.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA04775; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:27:14 +0100 (CET) Received: (from blank@localhost) by uni-trier.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA01541; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:25:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from blank) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:25:53 +0100 From: Sascha Blank To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 Message-ID: <19991118122553.A869@blank.uni-trier.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from jeff-ml@mountin.net on Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 02:54:05PM -0600 Organization: Computer Center of the University of Trier, Germany Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 02:54:05PM -0600, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > At 10:21 AM 11/17/99 -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > >Will be December 15th. The traditional code slush will go into effect > >on the 1st. November would be an excellent month for merging your > >changes, after which I'll be exercising my usual perogative of > >inspecting all potential changes with a more jaundiced eye. :) > > What happened to every 4 months? I wonder too. Is it really such a good idea to shorten the release cycle even more so that we will have four releases a year now? I don't think so. Like many other users I contribute my 0.02DM to the FreeBSD project by having a FreeBSD CD subscription. One reason why I do so is the fact that with at most three CD releases a year the total amount of money spent stays within a range that I am willing and able to pay. But with one additional release a year I really start to wonder whether I want and can do so any longer; I'm afraid that many other users think so too. Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying that FreeBSD would not be worth the cost of four releases a year, but for many of us having a subscription in order to financially contribute to the project is also a matter of money. Therefore I think we should stay with the four month release cycle. Just my 0.02DM. -- Sascha Blank | FreeBSD - Student and System Administrator | that's where you want to go today! at the University of Trier, Germany | mailto:blank@fox.uni-trier.de | See http://www.freebsd.org for details To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 4: 7:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at [128.130.111.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E965A15105 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 04:07:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at) Received: from markab (markab [128.130.111.33]) by vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA08719; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:07:33 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:07:32 +0100 (MET) From: Gerald Pfeifer To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: inetd(8) MFCed. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 18 Nov 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > I've merged the latest inetd(8) from -CURRENT, so -STABLE's inetd now > has a fully function built-in ident server, and should no longer be > vulnerable to the 'nmap -sT' DoS. Thanks a lot! This will save us quite some grief, for indeed we experienced "dead" systems after "regular" `nmap -sT` scans. Gerald -- Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 4:23:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE33C1538C for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 04:23:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA80936 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:24:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:24:51 +0100 (CET) From: "O. Hartmann" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: building kernel error Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Since the last update of my sources (three days ago) and the freshly down= loaded updates today I can not compile a kernel! Make world works fine for me, but when building the kernel, I get this message: loading kernel machdep.o: In function `sendsig': machdep.o(.text+0x651): undefined reference to `rfs' machdep.o(.text+0x659): undefined reference to `rgs' machdep.o(.text+0x6e3): undefined reference to `load_fs' machdep.o(.text+0x6ee): undefined reference to `load_gs' *** Error code 1 1 error The machine is a dual PII SMP sytem running as our server at the institute. Has anything changed in configuration of kernel or in functionality of kernel? Please let me know how to fix this error. It seems to occure at the end of the compiling process. I sthere any option in kernelconfig to be avoided? Thanks in advance, Oliver Gruss O. Hartmann ------------------------------------------------------------------- ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de Klimadatenserver des IPA, Universitaet Mainz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 4:24: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dialup73.apex.dp.ua (dialup54.apex.dp.ua [195.24.139.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1141507C for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 04:23:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from voland@dialup73.apex.dp.ua) Received: (from voland@localhost) by dialup73.apex.dp.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA70973; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:23:09 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from voland) Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Comment-To: Sheldon Hearn To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb max uid warning. References: <15637.942915019@axl.noc.iafrica.com> From: Vadim Belman In-Reply-To: Sheldon Hearn's message of "Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:50:19 +0200" Date: 18 Nov 1999 14:21:48 +0200 Message-ID: <85wvrg0z37.fsf@dialup90.apex.dp.ua> Lines: 18 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Sheldon! On 18 Nov 99 at 10:50, "Sheldon" (Sheldon Hearn) wrote: Sheldon> I'm not sure whether this will be merged to the STABLE branch. I Sheldon> certainly can't see any reason why it shouldn't be. Just Sheldon> remember, should you choose to use this option, that it doesn't Sheldon> resolve the issues surrounding large IDs; it just allows you to Sheldon> silence the warnings if you don't care about the issues. :-) I don't care because I'm not gonna be so crazy and have so many users. 8) But merely for satisfying my curiosity, what are you gonna do with vipw and pw? Being called implicitly pwd_mkdb will warn you anyway. -- /Voland Vadim Belman E-mail: voland@plab.ku.dk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 4:37:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4981507C for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 04:37:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.040 #1) id 11oQoN-0005D9-00; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:37:15 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Vadim Belman Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb max uid warning. In-reply-to: Your message of "18 Nov 1999 14:21:48 +0200." <85wvrg0z37.fsf@dialup90.apex.dp.ua> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:37:15 +0200 Message-ID: <20034.942928635@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 18 Nov 1999 14:21:48 +0200, Vadim Belman wrote: > But merely for satisfying my curiosity, what are you gonna do with > vipw and pw? Being called implicitly pwd_mkdb will warn you anyway. That was one of the reasons I wanted an envorinment variable, but I was warned off that idea by bde. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 4:45:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dialup54.apex.dp.ua (dialup54.apex.dp.ua [195.24.139.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14E615456 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 04:45:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from voland@dialup54.apex.dp.ua) Received: (from voland@localhost) by dialup54.apex.dp.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA76727; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:45:17 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from voland) Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Comment-To: Sheldon Hearn To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb max uid warning. References: <20034.942928635@axl.noc.iafrica.com> From: Vadim Belman In-Reply-To: Sheldon Hearn's message of "Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:37:15 +0200" Date: 18 Nov 1999 14:45:16 +0200 Message-ID: <85ogcs0y03.fsf@dialup90.apex.dp.ua> Lines: 14 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Sheldon! On 18 Nov 99 at 14:37, "Sheldon" (Sheldon Hearn) wrote: >> But merely for satisfying my curiosity, what are you gonna do with vipw >> and pw? Being called implicitly pwd_mkdb will warn you anyway. Sheldon> That was one of the reasons I wanted an envorinment variable, but Sheldon> I was warned off that idea by bde. Why? What reasons make this solution unacceptable? -- /Voland Vadim Belman E-mail: voland@plab.ku.dk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 4:55:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.vnet.net (smtp2.vnet.net [166.82.1.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970F9153C9 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 04:55:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp2.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA26632; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 07:55:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19174; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 07:55:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id HAA06217; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 07:55:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 07:55:31 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199911181255.HAA06217@lakes.dignus.com> To: sheldonh@uunet.co.za, voland@plab.ku.dk Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb max uid warning. Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <85ogcs0y03.fsf@dialup90.apex.dp.ua> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Hi Sheldon! > > On 18 Nov 99 at 14:37, "Sheldon" (Sheldon Hearn) wrote: > > >> But merely for satisfying my curiosity, what are you gonna do with vipw > >> and pw? Being called implicitly pwd_mkdb will warn you anyway. > > Sheldon> That was one of the reasons I wanted an envorinment variable, but > Sheldon> I was warned off that idea by bde. > > Why? What reasons make this solution unacceptable? > -- > /Voland Vadim Belman > E-mail: voland@plab.ku.dk Just my $0.02 - environment variables don't make a good programming or user interface. User X runs the program - it behaves this way. User Y runs the program - it behaves this *other* way (same command line.) User X runs the program another day - it behaves yet *another* way. Support group gets a call and has to spend time figuring out what environment variables are meaningful to the program and what there values were (the user may not even be aware of them, or set/unset them.) It's much better to be explicit about things like this. Just my opinion - - Dave Rivers - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 4:59:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85FF4153C9 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 04:59:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.040 #1) id 11oR97-0005N2-00; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:58:41 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Thomas David Rivers Cc: voland@plab.ku.dk, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb max uid warning. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Nov 1999 07:55:31 EST." <199911181255.HAA06217@lakes.dignus.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:58:40 +0200 Message-ID: <20647.942929920@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 07:55:31 EST, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > Just my $0.02 - environment variables don't make a good programming > or user interface. While that's certainly what I've been told, he does have a valid point... what good is the new option if vipw(8) and friends make it difficult to use? I must admit, I honestly didn't think about that. :-) Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 5: 9:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sand2.sentex.ca (sand2.sentex.ca [209.167.248.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD4D150FD for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 05:09:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from gravel (ospf-mdt.sentex.net [205.211.164.81]) by sand2.sentex.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA02248 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 07:51:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.1.19991118074956.0498f6a0@granite.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtancsa@granite.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 07:51:39 -0500 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 In-Reply-To: <19991118122553.A869@blank.uni-trier.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 06:25 AM 11/18/99 , Sascha Blank wrote: >> What happened to every 4 months? > >I wonder too. Is it really such a good idea to shorten the release >cycle even more so that we will have four releases a year now? I don't >think so. I think it is. I am all for 4 releases a year. ---Mike ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa, Network Admin * mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications Corp, * http://www.sentex.net/mike Cambridge, Ontario * 519 651 3400 Canada * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 7:22:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from melete.ch.intel.com (melete.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424C315426 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 07:22:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by melete.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.11 1999/11/10 17:27:15 spurcell Exp $) with ESMTP id PAA27966 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:21:57 GMT Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.8 1999/04/16 15:25:49 steved Exp steved $) with ESMTP id IAA03325 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 08:22:09 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-To: X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id KAA22351; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:22:34 -0500 (EST) From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14388.6585.781834.681200@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 08:22:33 -0700 (MST) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: defaultrouter variable in /etc/rc.conf -- Used? X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, First off, I'd like to thank every single person who ever contributed a line of code or docs to FreeBSD! I've recently put togther a small machine to act as a firewall and gateway for a home network (connected to cable modem) and the code and docs have just been wonderful (when I don't have to ask a question, it's straight forward )! However, I've run into something that has bewildered me in the setup for one of my networked machines (behind firewall). I needed to add a default route so that all packets would be sent to the gateway. No problem. A little looking around at /etc/defaults/rc.conf and the man page for said file and I find: defaultrouter (str) If not set to NO then create a default route to this host name or IP address (use IP address value if you also require this router to get to a name server!) Great! Sounds like just what I need. However, upon rebooting, things did not work as expected. I track things down to the following code in rc.network (my machine has been freshly CVSuped and mergemastered). # Configure routing if [ "x$defaultrouter" != "xNO" ] ; then static_routes="default ${static_routes}" route_default="default ${defaultrouter}" fi # Set up any static routes. This should be done before router discovery. if [ "x${static_routes}" != "x" ]; then for i in ${static_routes}; do eval route_args=\$route_${i} route add ${route_args} done fi So, $defaultrouter is appended to the string "default " and set into the route_default variable. Fine. However, route_default isn't used ANYWHERE in this file nor seen in any other rc* files. ? Additionally, even if you don't have a list of static routes in your /etc/rc.conf, the "if" section for the static routes will execute (and not do very much but make "route" commands that fail due to incorrect usage) because the static_routes variable is prepended with "default " too ("x${static_routes}" != "x" is always true). I think I understand what the defaultrouter variable in rc.conf was supposed to trigger. I'm less clueful as to what static_routes is supposed to accomplish, but my local hack to make things work the way I needed them was to make this section of rc.network appear as follows: if [ "x$defaultrouter" != "xNO" ] ; then # static_routes="default ${static_routes}" # route_default="default ${defaultrouter}" route add default ${defaultrouter} fi Now upon boot, the proper "route add default" command is run with my value for defaultrouter and the static_routes "if" statement doesn't trigger anything to happen (which seems to be okie dokie to me). Is defaultrouter a deprecated variable in defaults/rc.conf? It doesn't appear to be. If not, is the above what "should be" in rc.network to accomplish this default route? Finally, why was the static_route variable being prepended with the word "default " too? What is the appropriate thing to do with static_routes from rc.conf? I have things working "ok for me" but I figured with Jordan's message yesterday about a code slush coming at the end of this month, I'd better bring this up so that we get it fixed. -Jr ps: I did not send-pr this because I'm not sure what the "static_routes" variable "should do" .... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds CEG, CCE, Next Generation Flows, HLA | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 8:15:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pan.ch.intel.com (pan.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3F615433 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 08:14:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by pan.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.11 1999/11/10 17:27:15 spurcell Exp $) with ESMTP id JAA29069; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:14:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.8 1999/04/16 15:25:49 steved Exp steved $) with ESMTP id JAA13665; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:14:53 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id LAA23229; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:15:18 -0500 (EST) From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14388.9749.806244.632721@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:15:17 -0700 (MST) To: Tony Finch Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: defaultrouter variable in /etc/rc.conf -- Used? In-Reply-To: References: <14388.6585.781834.681200@hip186.ch.intel.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Thursday, November 18, Tony Finch wrote: ] > > You didn't look at the for loop closely enough. apparently not. > In the for loop that you quoted above, each name is taken from the > $static_routes variable and put in $i, then the corresponding > $route_name variable is located with the eval command and its value is > copied to the $route_args variable whose is passed as the arguments to > `route add`. > > The "default" in $static_routes is just another name that gets > assigned to $i, so the eval command becomes `route_args=$route_default` > which causes the next command to be `route add default $defaultrouter` HMMMMM. OK. I see how this was supposed to work then. Hmmmm. OK. Well, I will go back to the stock rc.network file and check things out again. What you say makes sense ... don't know why things "didn't work" (don't have the output of the 'failed' initialization ... I just know it didn't work). Thanks for the explanation!!! -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds CEG, CCE, Next Generation Flows, HLA | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 9: 0:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from misha.cisco.com (misha.cisco.com [171.69.206.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A72015374 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mi@misha.cisco.com) Received: (from mi@localhost) by misha.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA95008; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:58:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mi) Message-Id: <199911181658.LAA95008@misha.cisco.com> Subject: Re: defaultrouter variable in /etc/rc.conf -- Used? In-Reply-To: <14388.9749.806244.632721@hip186.ch.intel.com> from John Reynolds~ at "Nov 18, 1999 09:15:17 am" To: John Reynolds~ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:58:25 -0500 (EST) Cc: Tony Finch , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: mi@aldan.algebra.com From: Mikhail Teterin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL60 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Reynolds~ once wrote: [...] > apparently not. > > > In the for loop that you quoted above, each name is taken from the > > $static_routes variable and put in $i, then the corresponding > > $route_name variable is located with the eval command and its value > > is copied to the $route_args variable whose is passed as the > > arguments to `route add`. > > > > The "default" in $static_routes is just another name > > that gets assigned to $i, so the eval command becomes > > `route_args=$route_default` which causes the next command to be > > `route add default $defaultrouter` [...] Interestingly, this same question popped up before, at least once... Just another reminder, that one should always search through the archives before asking a question. Haven't we been through EVERYTHING by now :-) ? -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 9:45:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from convergence.navidec.com (convergence.navidec.com [207.141.43.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F6015463 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:45:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan.maus@navidec.com) Received: from Navidec.com ([10.10.20.237]) by convergence.navidec.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.1) with ESMTP id FLEMN700.KTH for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:45:07 -0700 Message-ID: <38343B29.8A5ACB0B@Navidec.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:45:13 -0700 From: Dan Maus Organization: Navidec - Professional Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.7 sun4c) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable dan@MyNet.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 11:11:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F0615542 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:10:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA55321; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 22:38:33 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 22:38:33 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 Message-ID: <19991117223833.A54887@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <14724.942862880@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <14724.942862880@localhost>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 10:21:20AM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 10:21:20AM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > Will be December 15th. The traditional code slush will go into effect > on the 1st. November would be an excellent month for merging your > changes, after which I'll be exercising my usual perogative of > inspecting all potential changes with a more jaundiced eye. :) My psychic powers are telling me that this information will find it's way on to the front page of Slashdot in the near future. Any special fixes or new features I should be giving prominence to in the write up? N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 12:29:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (dynamic-18.max4-du-ws.dialnetwork.pavilion.co.uk [212.74.9.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1696154AA for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:29:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA02420; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:29:42 GMT (envelope-from brian@lan.awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA25841; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 07:35:35 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199911180735.HAA25841@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.0 09/18/1999 To: "Andrew Reilly" Cc: Josef Karthauser , Julian Elischer , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: netgraph into -stable. (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message from "Andrew Reilly" of "Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:05:14 +1100." <19991118090514.A95037@gurney.reilly.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 07:35:33 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > How does a PPPoE system know when you've disconnected? Is there > a keepalive scheme? The cable authentication system here (BIDS2, > apparently an HP thing) keeps the routers open as long as you > respond to the regular heartbeat messages. The rfc *recommends* that the provider sends LQR echo requests, but there's no enforced mechanism. It's all in rfc2516... :-) > -- > Andrew -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 12:29:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (dynamic-18.max4-du-ws.dialnetwork.pavilion.co.uk [212.74.9.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F0BE154B1 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:29:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA02423; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:29:42 GMT (envelope-from brian@lan.awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29237; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 07:39:21 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199911180739.HAA29237@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.0 09/18/1999 To: Jonathon McKitrick Cc: John Hay , "Jeffrey J. Mountin" , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 In-Reply-To: Message from Jonathon McKitrick of "Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:35:28 GMT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 07:39:21 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Just out of curiosity, how many hours a day do the FreeBSD volunteers on > average spend working on the next STABLE, RELEASE, and CURRENT > incarnations of this wonderful OS? Too. -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 12:37:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pan.ch.intel.com (pan.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A99B15190 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:37:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by pan.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.11 1999/11/10 17:27:15 spurcell Exp $) with ESMTP id NAA28960 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:37:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.8 1999/04/16 15:25:49 steved Exp steved $) with ESMTP id NAA08304 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:37:12 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-To: X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id PAA04314; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:37:37 -0500 (EST) From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14388.25487.992572.91576@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:37:35 -0700 (MST) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: defaultrouter variable in /etc/rc.conf -- Used? In-Reply-To: <14388.6585.781834.681200@hip186.ch.intel.com> References: <14388.6585.781834.681200@hip186.ch.intel.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Thursday, November 18, John Reynolds~ wrote: ] > > So, $defaultrouter is appended to the string "default " and set into the > route_default variable. Fine. However, route_default isn't used ANYWHERE in > this file nor seen in any other rc* files. ? Additionally, even if you don't > have a list of static routes in your /etc/rc.conf, the "if" section for the Sorry ... 2-in-the-morning pilot error! Everything works "as advertised." Thanks for the responses. -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds CEG, CCE, Next Generation Flows, HLA | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 13:20:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from logatome.micronet.fr (logatome-2.francenet.fr [193.149.96.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C938A1550A; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:20:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Sebastien.Gioria@FranceNet.fr) Received: from gioria.dialup.FranceNet.fr (eku28.dialup.francenet.fr [193.149.106.173] (may be forged)) by logatome.micronet.fr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA23405; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 22:20:03 +0100 (CET) Received: by gioria.dialup.FranceNet.fr (Postfix, from userid 42) id 5CA4C1FEAE; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 22:18:58 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 22:18:58 +0100 From: Sebastien Gioria To: hardware@FreeBSD.org Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD && FC_AL Cards Message-ID: <19991118221857.F423@FranceNet.fr> Reply-To: Sebastien GIORIA Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD-fr.org X-Organisation: French FreeBSD Documentation Project X-Operating-System: FreeBSD-STABLE + PAO enabled X-Postal-Address: 32 Rue Baron Le Roy, 75012 Paris, France, Terre Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anyone knows if it exist an FC_AL Card working with FreeBSD ? Thanks. -- Direction Technique France Sebastien.Gioria@FranceNet.fr French FreeBSD Documentation Project gioria@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 13:27: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A022D154E0; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:26:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from semuta.feral.com (semuta [192.67.166.70]) by feral.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA16631; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:27:30 -0800 Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:27:30 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Sebastien Gioria Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD && FC_AL Cards In-Reply-To: <19991118221857.F423@FranceNet.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Qlogic 2100 and Qlogic 2200 cards. Private and Public loops supported. On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Sebastien Gioria wrote: > Does anyone knows if it exist an FC_AL Card working with > FreeBSD ? > > Thanks. > > -- > Direction Technique France Sebastien.Gioria@FranceNet.fr > French FreeBSD Documentation Project gioria@FreeBSD.org > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 14:42:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD52215440; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:42:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA20379; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:42:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Nik Clayton Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 Nov 1999 22:38:33 GMT." <19991117223833.A54887@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:42:20 -0800 Message-ID: <20375.942964940@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > My psychic powers are telling me that this information will find it's > way on to the front page of Slashdot in the near future. Heh. Wow, I wonder how he does it folks! :) > Any special fixes or new features I should be giving prominence to in the > write up? netgraph, um, lots of fixes... um... anybody else remember what the hell we added since 3.3? :-) A cvs diff might be in order if you really want to answer this question. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 14:49:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from melete.ch.intel.com (melete.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A547154B7 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:49:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by melete.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.11 1999/11/10 17:27:15 spurcell Exp $) with ESMTP id WAA14953 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 22:49:34 GMT Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.8 1999/04/16 15:25:49 steved Exp steved $) with ESMTP id PAA07370 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:49:49 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-To: X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id RAA07941; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:50:15 -0500 (EST) From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14388.33446.196220.702434@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:50:14 -0700 (MST) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 In-Reply-To: <20375.942964940@localhost> References: <19991117223833.A54887@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20375.942964940@localhost> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Thursday, November 18, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: ] > > Heh. Wow, I wonder how he does it folks! :) > > netgraph, um, lots of fixes... um... anybody else remember what the > hell we added since 3.3? :-) Well, we just got support for the Ensoniq 1371 sound chip as well as another one I can't remember off the top of my head put in. That's certainly one good addition since 3.3. -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds CEG, CCE, Next Generation Flows, HLA | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 14:59:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sand2.sentex.ca (sand2.sentex.ca [209.167.248.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1D6154EB for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:59:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from gravel (ospf-mdt.sentex.net [205.211.164.81]) by sand2.sentex.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA05832; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:59:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.1.19991118175557.04ee12d0@granite.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtancsa@granite.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 18:00:04 -0500 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20375.942964940@localhost> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 05:42 PM 11/18/99 , Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> Any special fixes or new features I should be giving prominence to in the >> write up? > >netgraph, um, lots of fixes... um... anybody else remember what the >hell we added since 3.3? :-) > >A cvs diff might be in order if you really want to answer this >question. :) Perhaps Mike Smith's RAID drivers will make it in to the CVS tree by then ? I have been using them in current and now in STABLE with great success. Both the AMI and Mylex. It would be great to see it make 3.4R I also vote for the new BIND if at all possible. But that hasnt even made it into CURRENT yet. ---Mike ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa, Network Admin * mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications Corp, * http://www.sentex.net/mike Cambridge, Ontario * 519 651 3400 Canada * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 15: 9:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E716154F6 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:09:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA50054; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:09:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Mike Tancsa Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Nov 1999 18:00:04 EST." <4.1.19991118175557.04ee12d0@granite.sentex.ca> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:09:11 -0800 Message-ID: <50051.942966551@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I also vote for the new BIND if at all possible. But that hasnt even made > it into CURRENT yet. That disqualifies it pretty significantly then. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 15:47:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.theinternet.com.au (zeus.theinternet.com.au [203.34.176.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731B61554A for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:47:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from akm@mail.theinternet.com.au) Received: (from akm@localhost) by mail.theinternet.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA09935; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:56:29 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from akm) From: Andrew Kenneth Milton Message-Id: <199911182356.JAA09935@mail.theinternet.com.au> Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19991118074956.0498f6a0@granite.sentex.ca> from Mike Tancsa at "Nov 18, 1999 7:51:39 am" To: mike@sentex.net (Mike Tancsa) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:56:29 +1000 (EST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG +----[ Mike Tancsa ]--------------------------------------------- | At 06:25 AM 11/18/99 , Sascha Blank wrote: | >> What happened to every 4 months? | > | >I wonder too. Is it really such a good idea to shorten the release | >cycle even more so that we will have four releases a year now? I don't | >think so. | | I think it is. I am all for 4 releases a year. The subscription information on Walnut Creek's page says 3 - 4 times a year (but not calendar year d8) Since January 2000 moved to December 1999, you're simply getting one of next year's releases early. Or you actually got 4 releases in 1999 if you want to look at it that way. -- Totally Holistic Enterprises Internet| P:+61 7 3870 0066 | Andrew Milton The Internet (Aust) Pty Ltd | F:+61 7 3870 4477 | ACN: 082 081 472 | M:+61 416 022 411 | Carpe Daemon PO Box 837 Indooroopilly QLD 4068 |akm@theinternet.com.au| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 15:50:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F551554A for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:50:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12873; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:50:11 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA28964; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:50:41 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199911182350.QAA28964@harmony.village.org> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 Cc: Mike Tancsa , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:09:11 PST." <50051.942966551@localhost> References: <50051.942966551@localhost> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:50:41 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <50051.942966551@localhost> "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: : > I also vote for the new BIND if at all possible. But that hasnt even made : > it into CURRENT yet. : : That disqualifies it pretty significantly then. :) Evidentally there are license and other problems with bringing BIND 8.2 into -current. At least that was the last heard about it. Until they are resolved, there will not be a new bind in freebsd. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 15:52:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pebkac.owp.csus.edu (pebkac.owp.csus.edu [130.86.232.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9795515528; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:52:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Received: from owp.csus.edu (mail.owp.csus.edu [130.86.232.247]) by pebkac.owp.csus.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA55326; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:51:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38349115.97FBBFDC@owp.csus.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:51:49 +0000 From: Joseph Scott X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Nik Clayton , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 References: <20375.942964940@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > > My psychic powers are telling me that this information will find it's > > way on to the front page of Slashdot in the near future. > > Heh. Wow, I wonder how he does it folks! :) > > > Any special fixes or new features I should be giving prominence to in the > > write up? > > netgraph, um, lots of fixes... um... anybody else remember what the > hell we added since 3.3? :-) > > A cvs diff might be in order if you really want to answer this > question. :) That would be a neat web page, a cvs diff between different releases. May not be entirely useful for a lot of people, but it may fall into the "just plain cool anyway" dept. -- Joseph Scott joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu Office Of Water Programs - CSU Sacramento To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 16:12:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE2F15534 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:12:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 11obfV-000157-00 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:12:49 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:12:48 -0500 From: Peter Radcliffe To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 Message-ID: <19991118191248.B544@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <50051.942966551@localhost> <199911182350.QAA28964@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <199911182350.QAA28964@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 04:50:41PM -0700 X-fish: < Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Warner Losh probably said: > Evidentally there are license and other problems with bringing BIND > 8.2 into -current. At least that was the last heard about it. Until > they are resolved, there will not be a new bind in freebsd. Ick. I went to Vixie's advanced DNS & BIND course at LISA last week. He basicly said that anyone still running 4.* was in serious trouble. Only known actively exploited serious security problems are being fixed in the bind 4.9.* tree :/ (of course this was just before half a dozen of us sat in the bar with wavelan cards upgrading to 8.2.2pl4 because of security problems :/) On the upside, bind 9 is a completly from scratch rewrite and there should be a public beta in a few months. I don't know about the licensing, though. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 16:15:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F309D1555F for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:15:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EBA661C2B; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 18:17:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2B9381B; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 18:17:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 18:17:13 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Fumerola To: Peter Radcliffe Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 In-Reply-To: <19991118191248.B544@pir.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > I went to Vixie's advanced DNS & BIND course at LISA last week. He > basicly said that anyone still running 4.* was in serious trouble. Which wouldn't be us considering we run 8.1.something. -- - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 16:22: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C44E415537 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:22:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 11oboN-00019S-00 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:21:59 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:21:59 -0500 From: Peter Radcliffe To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 Message-ID: <19991118192159.C544@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19991118191248.B544@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from billf@chc-chimes.com on Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 06:17:13PM -0500 X-fish: < Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bill Fumerola probably said: > Which wouldn't be us considering we run 8.1.something. Well, at least you arn't vunerable to any known remote root exploits, but you are vunerable to at least a dozen remote denial of service (including crashing named) attacks. Hope you run it under some kind of monitoring program :/ P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 16:36:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (ns.mt.sri.com [206.127.79.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F378D14CE8 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:36:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA04479; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:36:02 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA01069; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:36:00 -0700 Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:36:00 -0700 Message-Id: <199911190036.RAA01069@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Warner Losh Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Mike Tancsa , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 In-Reply-To: <199911182350.QAA28964@harmony.village.org> References: <50051.942966551@localhost> <199911182350.QAA28964@harmony.village.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > : > I also vote for the new BIND if at all possible. But that hasnt even made > : > it into CURRENT yet. > : > : That disqualifies it pretty significantly then. :) > > Evidentally there are license and other problems with bringing BIND > 8.2 into -current. Can you expound on this a bit more? I'd hate to think I wasn't allowed to be using the most recent version of BIND for legal reasons, like I am with SSH2. :( Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 16:40:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8922614CE8 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:40:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA12973; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:40:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id RAA29126; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:40:40 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199911190040.RAA29126@harmony.village.org> To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Mike Tancsa , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:36:00 MST." <199911190036.RAA01069@mt.sri.com> References: <199911190036.RAA01069@mt.sri.com> <50051.942966551@localhost> <199911182350.QAA28964@harmony.village.org> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:40:39 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <199911190036.RAA01069@mt.sri.com> Nate Williams writes: : Can you expound on this a bit more? I'd hate to think I wasn't allowed : to be using the most recent version of BIND for legal reasons, like I am : with SSH2. :( The issue that I saw talked about was with the crypto in the new rsaref stuff. It is an issue with licensing for inclusion into a OS rather than the problems that ssh2 has. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 16:49:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B06E15705; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:48:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: from current1.whiste.com (current1.whistle.com [207.76.205.22]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA33477; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:48:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:48:41 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: HEADS UP -stable Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You should do a 'config' again before making a kernel from -stable sources. No code changes will result but a new options file "opt_netgraph.h" will be required by if_ethersubr.c. an alternative is to do touch opt_netgraph.h in /sys/compile/MYKERNEL This will build an empty version of this file which will do just fine. (it would probably be empty anyhow). Julian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 17:15:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rwwa.com (rwwa.com [198.115.177.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CDE1553B for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:15:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from witr@rwwa.com) Received: from rwwa.com (molasses.rwwa.com [192.124.97.13]) by rwwa.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA34429; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:19:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from witr@rwwa.com) Message-Id: <199911190119.UAA34429@rwwa.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: witr@rwwa.com Subject: Userconfig still not saving selections in 3.3R Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:15:25 -0500 From: Robert Withrow Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Since we are slushing towards 3.4R: Apparently the "userconfig not saving selections" bug reported in 3.1 is still apparent in 3.3R. Is there an easy fix that could find itself into 3.4R? (I asked about this in questions and got a reply from someone who vefified that it was still broken...) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Withrow, R.W. Withrow Associates, Swampscott MA, witr@rwwa.COM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 18: 4: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sand2.sentex.ca (sand2.sentex.ca [209.167.248.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32B9A1553D for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 18:03:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from gravel (ospf-mdt.sentex.net [205.211.164.81]) by sand2.sentex.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA06916; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:03:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.1.19991118210055.03e9a420@granite.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtancsa@granite.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:04:12 -0500 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20375.942964940@localhost> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 05:42 PM 11/18/99 , Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >netgraph, um, lots of fixes... um... anybody else remember what the >hell we added since 3.3? :-) Has PR 14614 ever been addressed (the mmap DoS) ? Someone alluded to a fix in current that would be back ported. --Mike ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa, Network Admin * mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications Corp, * http://www.sentex.net/mike Cambridge, Ontario * 519 651 3400 Canada * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 20:42: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (smtp10.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.200.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B4C14D16 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:41:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mvh@ix.netcom.com) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (lai-ca4d-197.ix.netcom.com [209.110.247.197]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA29797; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:41:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C77C6A51AE; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:41:20 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Harding To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com Cc: mike@sentex.net, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <50051.942966551@localhost> (jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 References: <50051.942966551@localhost> Message-Id: <19991119044120.C77C6A51AE@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:41:20 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Did you read the isc release about what the latest patches fix? Pretty scary... Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:09:11 -0800 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-RULES: lists > I also vote for the new BIND if at all possible. But that hasnt even made > it into CURRENT yet. That disqualifies it pretty significantly then. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 21:34:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp10.nwnexus.com (smtp10.nwnexus.com [206.63.63.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882A2155DC for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:34:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wrsomsky@halcyon.com) Received: from gramarye (evt-lx100-ip27.nwnexus.net [204.57.235.27]) by smtp10.nwnexus.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA05361 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:34:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wrsomsky@localhost) by gramarye (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA67645 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:33:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wrsomsky) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:33:19 -0800 From: "William R. Somsky" To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Making local devices: /dev/MAKEDEV.local or something else? Message-ID: <19991118213319.A28160@gramarye.halcyon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG With the talk of a 3.4-release starting to take shape, I figured it would be time to put forth an idea/question/thought that's been stirring about the back of my mind: Doing a "sh MAKEDEV all" builds all the standard and default devices for a system, but there are usually other that are needed for any given system. For example, on my home system I also have to add wd0s2a, wd0s1, wd0s5, wd2s2a, wd2s5, and snd0. The question is, how should these be made as needed? Explicit invocations of "sh MAKEDEV other_devices_I_want"? (I don't want to have to remember all of these all the time.) Should MAKEDEV.local be edited to make them when invoked? (The framework of the supplied example MAKEDEV.local doesn't seem to jive with that very well, however.) I've currently got a script /dev/ALL that invokes "sh MAKEDEV all and_the_other_devices"? I've been thinking of the following idea: what if "sh MAKEDEV all" makes all the devices that it normally does, but if there is a file /dev/ADDITIONAL, it will additionally make all the devices listed in that file. The patch for this (against 3.3-stable) is: *** MAKEDEV.orig Thu Nov 18 21:18:03 1999 --- MAKEDEV Thu Nov 18 21:20:38 1999 *************** *** 239,244 **** --- 239,247 ---- sh MAKEDEV i4b i4bctl i4btrc0 i4btrc1 # cdev, ISDN sh MAKEDEV i4btel0 i4btel1 i4bteld0 i4bteld1 # cdev, ISDN sh MAKEDEV i4brbch0 i4brbch1 # cdev, ISDN + if [ -s ADDITIONAL ]; then # local additions + sh MAKEDEV `cat ADDITIONAL` + fi ;; std) With the contents of /dev/ADDITIONAL in my case being: wd0s2a wd0s1 wd0s5 wd2s2a wd2s5 snd0 But the question is, is this a good idea? Or is this completely out of whack? Is there a better way to accomplish my general desire of making it easy to regenerate all the necessary devices for a system? Maybe there's a better place to put the file? (/etc/ADDITIONAL_DEVS?) Or maybe it should come from /etc/rc.conf? (ADD_DEVICES="snd0 ..."? probably not...) Anyone got any ideas/comments on the subject? ________________________________________________________________________ William R. Somsky wrsomsky@halcyon.com Physicist, Baritone, Guitarist http://www.halcyon.com/wrsomsky To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 21:54:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CFF3155AD; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:54:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA20983; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:54:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-79.tnt1.rac.cyberlynk.net(209.224.182.79) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma020981; Thu Nov 18 23:54:39 1999 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19991118235306.01542720@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:53:06 -0600 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Nik Clayton From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20375.942964940@localhost> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 02:42 PM 11/18/99 -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> My psychic powers are telling me that this information will find it's >> way on to the front page of Slashdot in the near future. > >Heh. Wow, I wonder how he does it folks! :) "Believe them. They're for real" - late night psyhic ads >> Any special fixes or new features I should be giving prominence to in the >> write up? > >netgraph, um, lots of fixes... um... anybody else remember what the >hell we added since 3.3? :-) > >A cvs diff might be in order if you really want to answer this >question. :) Or I just look in the folder with all the -stable commits since 3.3R. ;) A bit less than 400 messages since then. Trim out discussions and man page updates. Hard to say maybe a bit over 100 commit messages. Haven't done a cvsup from 3.3R to stable for actual file changes, but hey most don't matter to many. Not that I wish to belittle all the work done. And besides everone should know where to look if the *really* want to know. Will say that it's been a bit calmer for this go round, but -current has been very busy. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve '86 Yamaha MaxiumX (not FBSD powered) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 22: 5:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E94155C0 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 22:05:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com ([210.163.200.126]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) with ESMTP id PAA21231; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:04:00 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3834E7A4.76F5E21E@newsguy.com> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:01:08 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Withrow Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Userconfig still not saving selections in 3.3R References: <199911190119.UAA34429@rwwa.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Robert Withrow wrote: > > Since we are slushing towards 3.4R: Apparently the "userconfig > not saving selections" bug reported in 3.1 is still apparent > in 3.3R. Is there an easy fix that could find itself into 3.4R? > > (I asked about this in questions and got a reply from someone who > vefified that it was still broken...) It is not broken. Maybe it is not being done automatically, though. Does a /boot/kernel.conf file gets generated automatically? If not, just kget >/boot/kernel.conf. Now, what does _not_ happen automatically is this information getting loaded. Put a userconfig_script_load="YES" line in /boot/loader.conf. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "Then again maybe not going to heaven would be a blessing. Relkin liked a certain amount of peace and harmony, since there'd been a pronounced shortage of them in his own life; however, nothing but peace and harmony, forever and forever? He wasn't sure about that. And no beer? Very dubious proposition." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 18 22:10:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A386E14E7C for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 22:10:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA21059; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 00:10:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-79.tnt1.rac.cyberlynk.net(209.224.182.79) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma021057; Fri Nov 19 00:10:27 1999 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19991119000852.014795b0@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 00:08:52 -0600 To: Sascha Blank From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19991118122553.A869@blank.uni-trier.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:25 PM 11/18/99 +0100, Sascha Blank wrote: >On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 02:54:05PM -0600, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: >> What happened to every 4 months? > >I wonder too. Is it really such a good idea to shorten the release >cycle even more so that we will have four releases a year now? I don't >think so. Well Jordan is the one that has to consider the CD pressing window (or whatever you wish to call it), so a month early this time and maybe 4.0 will be a month early. >Like many other users I contribute my 0.02DM to the FreeBSD project by >having a FreeBSD CD subscription. One reason why I do so is the fact >that with at most three CD releases a year the total amount of money >spent stays within a range that I am willing and able to pay. But with >one additional release a year I really start to wonder whether I want >and can do so any longer; I'm afraid that many other users think so too. > >Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying that FreeBSD would not be worth the >cost of four releases a year, but for many of us having a subscription >in order to financially contribute to the project is also a matter of >money. > >Therefore I think we should stay with the four month release cycle. >Just my 0.02DM. Come on now. What's another $30 (US) per year for great software and good, free support. Didn't really mean to start another debate on 3 vs 4 months for the cycle, but then my 3.3R CD's are still shrink wrapped. Plan to get around to a fresh install after some hardware redistribution and it's quicker to start from the latest. AFAICR, there were over 7000 files changes (cvsup log) form 3.2R to 3.3R. Significantly less this time round I'd think. Was more like a "Already? Where did the time go?" surprise. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve '86 Yamaha MaxiumX (not FBSD powered) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 19 4:19:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dontpanic.gtf.ol.no (dontpanic.gtf.ol.no [128.39.174.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A938150D4 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 04:19:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trond@dontpanic.gtf.ol.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by dontpanic.gtf.ol.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA70044; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:19:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@dontpanic.gtf.ol.no) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:19:15 +0100 (CET) From: Trond Endrestol To: FreeBSD stable Subject: Core dumps: FreeBSD 3.3-stable and bash 2.03.0(1) + ulimit -c 0 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm using FreeBSD 3.3-stable, GNU bash 2.03.0(1), and I have a ``ulimit -c 0'' line in my .bashrc file. When I ran FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE some while ago, ``ulimit -c 0'' caused no core files to be created when the software crashed. Under both FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE and FreeBSD 3.3-stable, core files are created, but have zero length, despite ``ulimit -c 0''. What has gone wrong? Is it bash or is it FreeBSD? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Trond Endrestøl | trond@dontpanic.gtf.ol.no Merkantilvegen 59HB7, | tronde@ramstind.gtf.ol.no N-2815 GJØVIK, NORWAY |+47 61139424 || +47 63874242 Patron of The Art of Computer Programming| FreeBSD 3.3 & Pine 4.10 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 19 6:10:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429F3150FC for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:10:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es (garatu [158.227.6.222]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA04170; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:10:42 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <38355A62.BEDE8BE6@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:10:42 +0100 From: "Jose M. Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pa=EDs?= Vasco - Dpto. de Electricidad y =?iso-8859-1?Q?Electr=F3nica?= X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: es-ES, es, en-US, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Trond Endrestol Cc: FreeBSD stable Subject: Re: Core dumps: FreeBSD 3.3-stable and bash 2.03.0(1) + ulimit -c 0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Trond Endrestol wrote: > > I'm using FreeBSD 3.3-stable, GNU bash 2.03.0(1), and I have a > ``ulimit -c 0'' line in my .bashrc file. > > When I ran FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE some while ago, ``ulimit -c 0'' > caused no core files to be created when the software crashed. > > Under both FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE and FreeBSD 3.3-stable, core files are > created, but have zero length, despite ``ulimit -c 0''. > > What has gone wrong? > Is it bash or is it FreeBSD? > See PR kern/14540. It has been fixed in -CURRENT. -- JMA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- José Mª Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es Universidad del País Vasco | mailto:jmas@FreeBSD.org Dpto. de Electricidad y Electrónica | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-946012479 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-946013071 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Beware of Programmers who carry screwdrivers" -- Leonard Brandwein To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 19 6:48: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dozer.skynet.be (dozer.skynet.be [195.238.2.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 932D914E7E for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:47:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@foxbert.skynet.be) Received: from foxbert.skynet.be (foxbert.skynet.be [195.238.1.45]) by dozer.skynet.be (8.9.3/odie-relay-v1.0) with ESMTP id PAA18241 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:47:59 +0100 (MET) Received: (from root@localhost) by foxbert.skynet.be (8.9.1/jovi-pop-2.1) id PAA24972; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:47:54 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@foxbert.skynet.be Message-Id: Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:47:22 +0100 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Brad Knowles Subject: OpenSSH for -STABLE? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Folks, I know that OpenSSH is relatively new, and that a port for it was recently incorporated into -CURRENT. However, I can't find any information that would tell me whether or not it's been back-ported to -STABLE (the port for -CURRENT appears to depend on crypto.1, a library that does not appear to be found on -STABLE). Can anyone clear this up? Alternatively, can anyone point me at the official OpenSSH tarball? I found , but the information on OpenSSH from this page is limited, and the web page at appears to be just another virtual host on the OpenBSD site, but without a corresponding OpenSSH-specific source tree, etc.... I also searched the online archives of -questions and -stable for "openssh", but no hits were returned. Thanks! -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ____________________________________________________________________ |o| Brad Knowles, Belgacom Skynet NV/SA |o| |o| Systems Architect, News & FTP Admin Rue Col. Bourg, 124 |o| |o| Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.11.11/12.49 B-1140 Brussels |o| |o| http://www.skynet.be Belgium |o| \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 19 6:58:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sstar.com (sstar.com [209.102.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F5415296 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:58:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from king@sstar.com) Received: from JKING ([134.132.75.164]) by sstar.com with ESMTP (IPAD 2.5s/64) id 8797200; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 08:58:34 -0600 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991119085630.00a7eee8@mail.sstar.com> X-Sender: king@mail.sstar.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 08:58:34 -0600 To: Brad Knowles , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Jim King Subject: Re: OpenSSH for -STABLE? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 03:47 PM 11/19/1999 +0100, Brad Knowles wrote: >Folks, > > I know that OpenSSH is relatively new, and that a port for it was > recently incorporated into -CURRENT. However, I can't find any > information that would tell me whether or not it's been back-ported to > -STABLE (the port for -CURRENT appears to depend on crypto.1, a library > that does not appear to be found on -STABLE). Can anyone clear this > up? Alternatively, can anyone point me at the official OpenSSH tarball? > > I found , but the > information on OpenSSH from this page is limited, and the web page at > appears to be just another virtual host on the > OpenBSD site, but without a corresponding OpenSSH-specific source tree, > etc.... I also searched the online archives of -questions and -stable > for "openssh", but no hits were returned. Have you tried building the OpenSSH port on -stable? I built and installed it last night (on a -stable x86 box, and a -current Alpha box), and it appears to be working just fine. I think the crypto.1 library is part of OpenSSL, which should get built automatically if you build the OpenSSH port. Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 19 7:22:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail-out.visi.com (kauket.visi.com [209.98.98.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182BB1564B; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 07:22:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from veldy@visi.com) Received: from isis.visi.com (isis.visi.com [209.98.98.8]) by mail-out.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA78386E; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:22:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (veldy@localhost) by isis.visi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13164; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:22:14 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: isis.visi.com: veldy owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:22:13 -0600 (CST) From: Thomas Veldhouse To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: de0 won't come up Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I just did the unthinkable and purchased a Compaq 5868 :-) I was using an older (~10-30-99) snapshot of stable. That snaptshot worked fine on my older PII-333. The problem I am having is that the de0 interface will not come up. I have manually tried to bring it up with ifconfig de0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up, but the network is still unresponsive. Samething happens with the most recent current snapshot. To elaborate, I simply installed the OS and chose the options to use de0 from sysinstall. The proper entries were placed in /etc/rc.conf. For some reason, it works fine on my old hardware, but the identical options chosen on my new hardware (same NIC from the old box) and it doesn't work. I have a feeling it has to do with the way the hardware is probed and the device is taken down (although it still shows with the proper config under ifconfig -l or -A). So ... my current hardware configuration is ... AMD Athlon (K7) 600MHz Motherboard uses AMD751 chipset (compaq or AMD board?) with 200MHz FSB 128MB SDRAM100 Asante 10baseT PCI card (sorry, I don't have specs handy - but it works with de0 when placed in my old PC - and it works with both tulip and another modules under linux) FWIW - the card works just fine on this computer using Linux and Win98, so I am sure that this is FreeBSD related and not hardware related (directly anyway) problem. I can get more particulars on the NIC later if necessary. Tom Veldhouse veldy@visi.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 19 7:30:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from escambia.se.mediaone.net (escambia.se.mediaone.net [24.129.0.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 634B51564B for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 07:30:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bote@mediaone.net) Received: from botecomm (plw18-209.pompano.net [24.129.18.209]) by escambia.se.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA18687; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:30:02 -0500 (EST) From: "John Boteler" To: "Larry Baird" , "Thomas David Rivers" , Subject: RE: ASUS P2B-S and FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:29:59 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <199911171633.LAA07864@gta.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It's a good idea on new systems, or on systems upgraded or changed in a significant way, to select the system BIOS' option to "Load optimum settings" or equivalent. In some cases, one or more registers in the CMOS memory might have gotten junk values inserted by a previous operator or by a power glitch. This can give you the assurance that settings known to the manufacturer to operate successfully will be loaded and used. Of course, you should note any custom settings before doing this. Perhaps in the cases noted, the processor or the memory was on the ragged edge of operating at the given speed. Changing the devices brought in more elbow room. There are also bootleg chips out there that are mislabeled in order to bring a higher price. :( Bote > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Larry Baird > Sent: Wednesday, 17 November, 1999 11:33 > To: Thomas David Rivers; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: ASUS P2B-S and FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE > > > >> I suspect memory at this point... given your other failure modes of > >> data corruption (checksum errors from cpio), kernel panics, etc. > > > Yep - David Kelley suggested I slow the memory down. > > > That improved things; but didn't fix them - I'm off to buy new > > memory today... > I recently had a similar problem with a ASUS P2B-F motherboard and a > 450 PIII. Random crashes for no apparent reason once or twice a day. > I disabled cache on the 450 and everything worked great for days. > Arranged a processor swap with the vendor I bought the processor > from. Haven't had a crash since I put the new processor in. > > Larry > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Larry Baird > Global Technology Associates, Inc. | Orlando, FL > Email: lab@gta.com | TEL 407-380-0220, FAX 407-380-6080 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 19 8: 9:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tank.skynet.be (tank.skynet.be [195.238.2.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C741565D for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 08:09:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@foxbert.skynet.be) Received: from foxbert.skynet.be (foxbert.skynet.be [195.238.1.45]) by tank.skynet.be (8.9.3/odie-relay-v1.0) with ESMTP id RAA28179; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:09:30 +0100 (MET) Received: (from root@localhost) by foxbert.skynet.be (8.9.1/jovi-pop-2.1) id RAA21937; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:09:24 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@foxbert.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19991119085630.00a7eee8@mail.sstar.com> References: <4.2.0.58.19991119085630.00a7eee8@mail.sstar.com> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 16:36:21 +0100 To: Jim King , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: OpenSSH for -STABLE? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 8:58 AM -0600 1999/11/19, Jim King wrote: > Have you tried building the OpenSSH port on -stable? I built > and installed it last night (on a -stable x86 box, and a > -current Alpha box), and it appears to be working just fine. I tried that on my machine before I did anything else ;-), and although it pulled down the source, when it came to building OpenSSL, I got: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 19 8:37:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rumfish.corp.gulf.net (rumfish.corp.gulf.net [206.105.61.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BCC615666 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 08:37:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phill@rumfish.corp.gulf.net) Received: from localhost (phill@localhost) by rumfish.corp.gulf.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02854 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:37:11 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from phill@rumfish.corp.gulf.net) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:37:11 -0600 (CST) From: Phillip Salzman To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Memory leaks? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm having a very strange problem. We are attempting to rsync var/mail from a BSD/OS 3.1 machine, to its replacement, a FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE box. This uses a lot of memory, in theory, but it should release it when completed. I'd think :) --------------------- Before --------------------- CPU states: 1.2% user, 0.0% nice, 0.8% system, 0.4% interrupt, 97.7% idle Mem: 7988K Active, 6796K Inact, 14M Wired, 8283K Buf, 222M Free Swap: 256M Total, 256M Free --------------------- After --------------------- CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% idle Mem: 10M Active, 214M Inact, 14M Wired, 10M Cache, 8337K Buf, 896K Free Swap: 256M Total, 256M Free Please note that rsync died on an out of memory error. -- Phillip Salzman phill@rumfish.corp.gulf.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 19 9:20: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.clientlogic.com (ns.clientlogic.com [207.51.66.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B00714CE0; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:19:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ChrisMic@clientlogic.com) Received: by site0s1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:19:59 -0500 Message-ID: <6C37EE640B78D2118D2F00A0C90FCB4401105D9E@site2s1> From: Christopher Michaels To: "FreeBSD Questions (E-mail)" Subject: Bind in a sandbox (was: Anticipated release date for 3.4) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:19:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After reading that I was hoping someone could give me some assistance. I would like to run bind in a sandbox. My problem is that I am on a dynamic IP and when I run it in a sandbox, it complains about not being able to bind to port 53 for the new address on the interface. Does anyone know of a way around this? (does bind need to listen to port 53 on the outside interface)? Thanks, -Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Harding [SMTP:mvh@ix.netcom.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 11:41 PM > To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com > Cc: mike@sentex.net; jkh@zippy.cdrom.com; stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 > > > Did you read the isc release about what the latest patches fix? > Pretty scary... > > Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:09:11 -0800 > From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Precedence: bulk > X-RULES: lists > > > I also vote for the new BIND if at all possible. But that hasnt even > made > > it into CURRENT yet. > > That disqualifies it pretty significantly then. :) > > - Jordan > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 19 9:24: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C401A14CE0 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:24:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca ([204.244.186.218]) by mail2.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 3.03 #4) id 11orlT-000Ntg-00; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:24:03 -0800 Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:24:00 -0800 (PST) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Phillip Salzman Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory leaks? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Phillip Salzman wrote: > I'm having a very strange problem. We are attempting to rsync var/mail > from a BSD/OS 3.1 machine, to its replacement, a FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE > box. > > This uses a lot of memory, in theory, but it should release it when > completed. I'd think :) > > --------------------- > Before > --------------------- > CPU states: 1.2% user, 0.0% nice, 0.8% system, 0.4% interrupt, 97.7% > idle > Mem: 7988K Active, 6796K Inact, 14M Wired, 8283K Buf, 222M Free > Swap: 256M Total, 256M Free > > --------------------- > After > --------------------- > CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% > idle > Mem: 10M Active, 214M Inact, 14M Wired, 10M Cache, 8337K Buf, 896K Free > Swap: 256M Total, 256M Free > > Please note that rsync died on an out of memory error. I don't really see a problem there. rsync did hammer the buffer cache though. rsync uses a lot of memory because it builds the entire file list in memory before starting. This makes rsync useless for large filesets. > -- > Phillip Salzman > phill@rumfish.corp.gulf.net Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 19 9:33:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from misha.cisco.com (misha.cisco.com [171.69.206.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E10B14CE0 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:33:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mi@misha.cisco.com) Received: (from mi@localhost) by misha.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA08589; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:32:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mi) Message-Id: <199911191732.MAA08589@misha.cisco.com> Subject: Re: Bind in a sandbox (was: Anticipated release date for 3.4) In-Reply-To: <6C37EE640B78D2118D2F00A0C90FCB4401105D9E@site2s1> from Christopher Michaels at "Nov 19, 1999 12:19:58 pm" To: Christopher Michaels Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:32:54 -0500 (EST) Cc: stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: mi@aldan.algebra.com From: Mikhail Teterin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL60 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Christopher Michaels once wrote: > After reading that I was hoping someone could give me some assistance. > I would like to run bind in a sandbox. > > My problem is that I am on a dynamic IP and when I run it in a > sandbox, it complains about not being able to bind to port 53 for the > new address on the interface. > > Does anyone know of a way around this? (does bind need to listen to > port 53 on the outside interface)? No it does not. In fact, it should not, because this way it can be abused by people outside your lan. May be, we can patch our bind to automaticly detect dynamic interfaces and not listen on them by default? You want to add something like: listen-on { 127.0.0.1; 10.10.0.1; // list your other interfaces here }; to the options-section of your named.conf. This, actually, belongs to the questions@freebsd.org mailing list. -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 19 10:25: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rumfish.corp.gulf.net (rumfish.corp.gulf.net [206.105.61.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF4714DCE for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:24:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phill@rumfish.corp.gulf.net) Received: from localhost (phill@localhost) by rumfish.corp.gulf.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03020; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:24:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from phill@rumfish.corp.gulf.net) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:24:54 -0600 (CST) From: Phillip Salzman To: Tom Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory leaks? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > --------------------- > > Before > > --------------------- > > CPU states: 1.2% user, 0.0% nice, 0.8% system, 0.4% interrupt, 97.7% > > idle > > Mem: 7988K Active, 6796K Inact, 14M Wired, 8283K Buf, 222M Free > > Swap: 256M Total, 256M Free > > > > --------------------- > > After > > --------------------- > > CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% > > idle > > Mem: 10M Active, 214M Inact, 14M Wired, 10M Cache, 8337K Buf, 896K Free > > Swap: 256M Total, 256M Free > I don't really see a problem there. rsync did hammer the buffer cache > though. > > rsync uses a lot of memory because it builds the entire file list in > memory before starting. This makes rsync useless for large filesets. But why would a machine with 256M of RAM all of a sudden have problems with running out of memory during an rsync. It worked before I CVSup'd to the latest -STABLE kernel. I moved the home directories and mail three days ago (not latest -stable), at the same time, without difficulty. I guess I may have to find a way to move the files across that isn't so memory intensive. First i'll see if I can re-create the out of memory error with a different util... maybe slam it with web requests. Thanks -- Phillip Salzman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 19 10:32:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell13.ba.best.com (shell13.ba.best.com [206.184.139.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A811714C88 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:32:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rone@ennui.org) Received: (from rone@localhost) by shell13.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.sh) id KAA11052 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:32:18 -0800 (PST) From: remorse code Message-Id: <199911191832.KAA11052@shell13.ba.best.com> Subject: GENERIC kernel won't load in 2.2-STABLE To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:32:15 -0800 (PST) X-URL: http://ennui.org/rone/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I built a custom kernel after cvsuping 2.2 yesterday and got the following error: # make loading kernel isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 I couldn't track it down, so i tried to build GENERIC. Same deal. Any help? thanks rone -- Insultant: n. Contract worker who gets paid an obscene hourly wage to insult full-time company employees. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 19 10:49:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dozer.skynet.be (dozer.skynet.be [195.238.2.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D11150E9 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:49:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@foxbert.skynet.be) Received: from foxbert.skynet.be (foxbert.skynet.be [195.238.1.45]) by dozer.skynet.be (8.9.3/odie-relay-v1.0) with ESMTP id TAA14467; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 19:49:28 +0100 (MET) Received: (from root@localhost) by foxbert.skynet.be (8.9.1/jovi-pop-2.1) id TAA28077; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 19:49:23 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@foxbert.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19991119085630.00a7eee8@mail.sstar.com> References: <4.2.0.58.19991119085630.00a7eee8@mail.sstar.com> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 19:48:24 +0100 To: Jim King , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: OpenSSH for -STABLE? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 8:58 AM -0600 1999/11/19, Jim King wrote: [ Let's try this again, I seem to have triggered a bug with our sendmail configuration. Sigh... BK ] > Have you tried building the OpenSSH port on -stable? I built > and installed it last night (on a -stable x86 box, and a > -current Alpha box), and it appears to be working just fine. I tried that on my machine before I did anything else ;-), and although it pulled down the source, when it came to building OpenSSL, I got: >> Checksum OK for OpenSSH-1.2/src/usr.bin/ssh/ssh-agent/Makefile. >> Checksum OK for OpenSSH-1.2/src/usr.bin/ssh/ssh-keygen/Makefile. >> Checksum OK for OpenSSH-1.2/src/usr.bin/ssh/sshd/Makefile. ===> OpenSSH-1.2 depends on shared library: crypto.1 - not found ===> Verifying install for crypto.1 in /usr/ports/security/openssl ===> Returning to build of OpenSSH-1.2 Error: shared library "crypto.1" does not exist *** Error code 1 Stop. > I think the crypto.1 library is part of OpenSSL, which should > get built automatically if you build the OpenSSH port. Attempting a manual "cd /usr/ports/security/openssl; make" results in absolutely nothing happening (well, I'm sure it's parsing the makefile, but whatever path it's following it doesn't seem to result in anything actually being done). Anyone else have any ideas? Thanks! -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ____________________________________________________________________ |o| Brad Knowles, Belgacom Skynet NV/SA |o| |o| Systems Architect, News & FTP Admin Rue Col. Bourg, 124 |o| |o| Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.11.11/12.49 B-1140 Brussels |o| |o| http://www.skynet.be Belgium |o| \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 19 10:52:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E37714E00 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:52:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jesper@skriver.dk) Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 576D63E2F; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 19:52:39 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 19:52:39 +0100 From: Jesper Skriver To: Phillip Salzman Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory leaks? Message-ID: <19991119195239.D18845@skriver.dk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from phill@rumfish.corp.gulf.net on Fri, Nov 19, 1999 at 10:37:11AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Nov 19, 1999 at 10:37:11AM -0600, Phillip Salzman wrote: > I'm having a very strange problem. We are attempting to rsync var/mail > from a BSD/OS 3.1 machine, to its replacement, a FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE > box. > > This uses a lot of memory, in theory, but it should release it when > completed. I'd think :) > > Mem: 10M Active, 214M Inact, 14M Wired, 10M Cache, 8337K Buf, 896K Free ^^^^^^^^^^ As far as I know, this just mean that this memory has been used, and is available, but it's not zero'ed. /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver (JS4261-RIPE), Network manager Tele Danmark DataNet, IP section (AS3292) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 19 10:53:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B113F15684 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:52:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@wintelcom.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA24534; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:19:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:19:19 -0800 (PST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Phillip Salzman Cc: Tom , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Memory leaks? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Phillip Salzman wrote: > > > --------------------- > > > Before > > > --------------------- > > > CPU states: 1.2% user, 0.0% nice, 0.8% system, 0.4% interrupt, 97.7% > > > idle > > > Mem: 7988K Active, 6796K Inact, 14M Wired, 8283K Buf, 222M Free > > > Swap: 256M Total, 256M Free > > > > > > --------------------- > > > After > > > --------------------- > > > CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% > > > idle > > > Mem: 10M Active, 214M Inact, 14M Wired, 10M Cache, 8337K Buf, 896K Free > > > Swap: 256M Total, 256M Free > > > I don't really see a problem there. rsync did hammer the buffer cache > > though. > > > > rsync uses a lot of memory because it builds the entire file list in > > memory before starting. This makes rsync useless for large filesets. > > But why would a machine with 256M of RAM all of a sudden have > problems with running out of memory during an rsync. It worked before > I CVSup'd to the latest -STABLE kernel. I moved the home directories > and mail three days ago (not latest -stable), at the same time, without > difficulty. > > I guess I may have to find a way to move the files across that > isn't so memory intensive. First i'll see if I can re-create the out > of memory error with a different util... maybe slam it with web requests. The odd part is that you aren't swapping at all, but yet it looks like you _are_ using all available core with rsync. check your limits. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 19 10:55:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B1B14E0E for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:55:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca ([204.244.186.218]) by mail2.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 3.03 #4) id 11otBz-000PrJ-00; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:55:31 -0800 Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:55:28 -0800 (PST) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Phillip Salzman Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory leaks? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Phillip Salzman wrote: > > > --------------------- > > > Before > > > --------------------- > > > CPU states: 1.2% user, 0.0% nice, 0.8% system, 0.4% interrupt, 97.7% > > > idle > > > Mem: 7988K Active, 6796K Inact, 14M Wired, 8283K Buf, 222M Free > > > Swap: 256M Total, 256M Free > > > > > > --------------------- > > > After > > > --------------------- > > > CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% > > > idle > > > Mem: 10M Active, 214M Inact, 14M Wired, 10M Cache, 8337K Buf, 896K Free > > > Swap: 256M Total, 256M Free > > > I don't really see a problem there. rsync did hammer the buffer cache > > though. > > > > rsync uses a lot of memory because it builds the entire file list in > > memory before starting. This makes rsync useless for large filesets. > > But why would a machine with 256M of RAM all of a sudden have > problems with running out of memory during an rsync. It worked before > I CVSup'd to the latest -STABLE kernel. I moved the home directories > and mail three days ago (not latest -stable), at the same time, without > difficulty. How big does rsync get when running? How much memory have you allowed it to use? > I guess I may have to find a way to move the files across that > isn't so memory intensive. First i'll see if I can re-create the out > of memory error with a different util... maybe slam it with web requests. > > Thanks > > -- > Phillip Salzman > > > Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 19 10:57:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wzrd.com (mail.wzrd.com [206.99.165.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E635F1506B for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:57:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danh@wzrd.com) Received: by mail.wzrd.com (Postfix, from userid 91) id 6AA6B5D001; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:57:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: OpenSSH for -STABLE? In-Reply-To: from Brad Knowles at "Nov 19, 1999 7:48:24 pm" To: blk@skynet.be (Brad Knowles) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:57:45 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2319 Message-Id: <19991119185745.6AA6B5D001@mail.wzrd.com> From: danh@wzrd.com (Dan Harnett) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, This happened to me on a machine here. It worked okay once I removed and then reinstalled the openssl port. Dan Harnett > At 8:58 AM -0600 1999/11/19, Jim King wrote: > > [ Let's try this again, I seem to have triggered a bug with our > sendmail configuration. Sigh... BK ] > > > Have you tried building the OpenSSH port on -stable? I built > > and installed it last night (on a -stable x86 box, and a > > -current Alpha box), and it appears to be working just fine. > > I tried that on my machine before I did anything else ;-), and > although it pulled down the source, when it came to building OpenSSL, > I got: > > >> Checksum OK for OpenSSH-1.2/src/usr.bin/ssh/ssh-agent/Makefile. > >> Checksum OK for OpenSSH-1.2/src/usr.bin/ssh/ssh-keygen/Makefile. > >> Checksum OK for OpenSSH-1.2/src/usr.bin/ssh/sshd/Makefile. > ===> OpenSSH-1.2 depends on shared library: crypto.1 - not found > ===> Verifying install for crypto.1 in /usr/ports/security/openssl > ===> Returning to build of OpenSSH-1.2 > Error: shared library "crypto.1" does not exist > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > > I think the crypto.1 library is part of OpenSSL, which should > > get built automatically if you build the OpenSSH port. > > Attempting a manual "cd /usr/ports/security/openssl; make" > results in absolutely nothing happening (well, I'm sure it's parsing > the makefile, but whatever path it's following it doesn't seem to > result in anything actually being done). > > > Anyone else have any ideas? Thanks! > > -- > These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy > ____________________________________________________________________ > |o| Brad Knowles, Belgacom Skynet NV/SA |o| > |o| Systems Architect, News & FTP Admin Rue Col. Bourg, 124 |o| > |o| Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.11.11/12.49 B-1140 Brussels |o| > |o| http://www.skynet.be Belgium |o| > \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ > Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. > Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 19 11:21:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sstar.com (sstar.com [209.102.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CEC114CE0 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:21:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from king@sstar.com) Received: from JKING ([134.132.75.164]) by sstar.com with ESMTP (IPAD 2.5s/64) id 8914000; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:20:59 -0600 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991119131954.00a8e238@mail.sstar.com> X-Sender: king@mail.sstar.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:21:00 -0600 To: danh@wzrd.com (Dan Harnett), blk@skynet.be (Brad Knowles) From: Jim King Subject: Re: OpenSSH for -STABLE? Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <19991119185745.6AA6B5D001@mail.wzrd.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It happened to me too. I did "make clean" for the OpenSSL port and then everything went OK. I assumed it was because something was leftover from a previous attempt at building OpenSSL, but maybe something is wacky with the port. Jim At 01:57 PM 11/19/1999 -0500, Dan Harnett wrote: >Hello, > >This happened to me on a machine here. It worked okay once I removed and then >reinstalled the openssl port. > >Dan Harnett > > > At 8:58 AM -0600 1999/11/19, Jim King wrote: > > > > [ Let's try this again, I seem to have triggered a bug with our > > sendmail configuration. Sigh... BK ] > > > > > Have you tried building the OpenSSH port on -stable? I built > > > and installed it last night (on a -stable x86 box, and a > > > -current Alpha box), and it appears to be working just fine. > > > > I tried that on my machine before I did anything else ;-), and > > although it pulled down the source, when it came to building OpenSSL, > > I got: > > > > >> Checksum OK for OpenSSH-1.2/src/usr.bin/ssh/ssh-agent/Makefile. > > >> Checksum OK for OpenSSH-1.2/src/usr.bin/ssh/ssh-keygen/Makefile. > > >> Checksum OK for OpenSSH-1.2/src/usr.bin/ssh/sshd/Makefile. > > ===> OpenSSH-1.2 depends on shared library: crypto.1 - not found > > ===> Verifying install for crypto.1 in /usr/ports/security/openssl > > ===> Returning to build of OpenSSH-1.2 > > Error: shared library "crypto.1" does not exist > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop. > > > > > I think the crypto.1 library is part of OpenSSL, which should > > > get built automatically if you build the OpenSSH port. > > > > Attempting a manual "cd /usr/ports/security/openssl; make" > > results in absolutely nothing happening (well, I'm sure it's parsing > > the makefile, but whatever path it's following it doesn't seem to > > result in anything actually being done). > > > > > > Anyone else have any ideas? Thanks! > > > > -- > > These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > |o| Brad Knowles, Belgacom Skynet NV/SA |o| > > |o| Systems Architect, News & FTP Admin Rue Col. Bourg, 124 |o| > > |o| Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.11.11/12.49 B-1140 Brussels |o| > > |o| http://www.skynet.be Belgium |o| > > \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ > > Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. > > Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 19 12:17:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E6B9156A2; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:17:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA71965; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:17:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Joseph Scott Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Nik Clayton , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:51:49 GMT." <38349115.97FBBFDC@owp.csus.edu> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:17:02 -0800 Message-ID: <71961.943042622@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > That would be a neat web page, a cvs diff between different releases. Feel free. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 19 13:45:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from implode.root.com (root.com [209.102.106.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4CD815767 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:43:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dg@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA01882; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:43:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911192143.NAA01882@implode.root.com> To: Phillip Salzman Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Memory leaks? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:37:11 CST." From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:43:25 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I'm having a very strange problem. We are attempting to rsync var/mail >from a BSD/OS 3.1 machine, to its replacement, a FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE >box. > >This uses a lot of memory, in theory, but it should release it when >completed. I'd think :) > >--------------------- > Before >--------------------- >CPU states: 1.2% user, 0.0% nice, 0.8% system, 0.4% interrupt, 97.7% >idle >Mem: 7988K Active, 6796K Inact, 14M Wired, 8283K Buf, 222M Free >Swap: 256M Total, 256M Free > >--------------------- > After >--------------------- >CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% >idle >Mem: 10M Active, 214M Inact, 14M Wired, 10M Cache, 8337K Buf, 896K Free >Swap: 256M Total, 256M Free > >Please note that rsync died on an out of memory error. rsync dieing and the above memory numbers are unrelated. The above is telling you that rsync read through a lot of files (perhaps to calculate checksums?) and that they are now cached in memory. -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com Pave the road of life with opportunities. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 19 14:34:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00AEB14DF6 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:34:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id XAA02792 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 23:34:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA47934 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 22:52:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: OpenSSH for -STABLE? Date: 19 Nov 1999 22:52:55 +0100 Message-ID: <814grn$1epg$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> References: To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brad Knowles wrote: > I know that OpenSSH is relatively new, and that a port for it was > recently incorporated into -CURRENT. However, I can't find any > information that would tell me whether or not it's been back-ported > to -STABLE (the port for -CURRENT appears to depend on crypto.1, a > library that does not appear to be found on -STABLE). The OpenSSH port should build on -STABLE, too. It depends on the crypto.1 shared library, which is part of the OpenSSL port. Until very recently, OpenSSL did not build a shared library, so you may need to update that port on your system first. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 19 15:31: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861341507B; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:30:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) id XAA68372; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 23:30:53 GMT (envelope-from joe) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 23:30:53 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Nik Clayton , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 Message-ID: <19991119233053.D64032@florence.pavilion.net> References: <19991117223833.A54887@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20375.942964940@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <20375.942964940@localhost> X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 02:42:20PM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > Any special fixes or new features I should be giving prominence to in the > > write up? > > netgraph, um, lots of fixes... um... anybody else remember what the > hell we added since 3.3? :-) I just added support for more ISDN cards care of I4B version 0.83. Also PPPoISDN is now working for 3.X, as well as PPPoEther Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 19 16:36:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10AFB1514B for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 16:36:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA17239; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 16:36:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 16:36:41 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Brad Knowles Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenSSH for -STABLE? Message-ID: <19991119163641.A17146@relay.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I know that OpenSSH is relatively new, and that a port for it was > recently incorporated into -CURRENT. However, I can't find any > information that would tell me whether or not it's been back-ported > to -STABLE (the port for -CURRENT appears to depend on crypto.1, a There is no "back porting to -STABLE" for the Ports. Ports more properly tracks (ie, supports -STABLE) than -CURRENT. BTW, this *REALLY* should have been sent to ports@freebsd.org. The fact you have having a problem with a port superseeds the fact you are having the problem on -STABLE. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 20 0:28:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 117F014CAD; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 00:27:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA83411; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 08:26:47 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 08:26:46 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Nik Clayton Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anticipated release date for 3.4 Message-ID: <19991120082646.A80166@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <14724.942862880@localhost> <19991117223833.A54887@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19991117223833.A54887@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 10:38:33PM +0000 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 10:38:33PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 10:21:20AM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Will be December 15th. The traditional code slush will go into effect > > on the 1st. November would be an excellent month for merging your > > changes, after which I'll be exercising my usual perogative of > > inspecting all potential changes with a more jaundiced eye. :) > > My psychic powers are telling me that this information will find it's > way on to the front page of Slashdot in the near future. > > Any special fixes or new features I should be giving prominence to in the > write up? I've been looking at this in a little more detail. 'cvs diff' and/or 'cvs log' are fine tools, but the logs for changes between RELENG_3_3_0_RELEASE and RELENG_3 are multi-megabytes in size. As an idea, http://www.FreeBSD.org/~nik/ChangeLog.gz is a GNU style ChangeLog of the changes -- it's about 2.5MB when uncompressed. I was kinda hoping someone (or the individual developers) might have a firmer handle on what's been bought in, and how important it is in the grand scheme of things. I generated this file with the cvs2cl tool, which can be had from http://www.red-bean.com/~kfogel/cvs2cl.shtml. The command line was % cd /usr/src % cvs2cl.pl -l -rRELENG_3_3_0_RELEASE where /usr/src contains a checked out copy of -stable, and you have a local copy of the CVS tree to hand. On my 200MHz system this took about 2 hours (!) to complete. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 20 7: 5:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ukr.net (pop-1-38.ukr.net [212.42.65.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1934514C4E for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 07:05:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andyo@ukr.net) Received: from ukr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ukr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA99404; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 17:04:34 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3836B880.85E776A2@ukr.net> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 17:04:33 +0200 From: "Andy V. Oleynik" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, en, uk MIME-Version: 1.0 To: remorse code Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GENERIC kernel won't load in 2.2-STABLE References: <199911191832.KAA11052@shell13.ba.best.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If U tracking 2.2-S it looks like Uve forgotten to make world before build a kernel. remorse code wrote: > I built a custom kernel after cvsuping 2.2 yesterday and got the > following error: > > # make > loading kernel > isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment > isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment > isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment > isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment > isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment > isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment > isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment > isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment > *** Error code 1 > > I couldn't track it down, so i tried to build GENERIC. Same deal. > Any help? > > thanks > rone > -- > Insultant: n. Contract worker who gets paid an obscene hourly wage to insult > full-time company employees. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- WBW Andy V. Oleynik PGP key's fingerprint ukr.net's D0 1E 7B B4 33 65 49 97 9C 79 7C 64 5C 9C F3 25 system administrator NIC AO618-RIPE +380442358555 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 20 14: 2:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.100.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB7B14C8F; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 14:02:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA94904; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 17:02:30 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 17:04:04 -0500 To: current@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Fixes for lpd/lpc (printing), before 3.4? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Back when we were closing in on the release date for 3.3, I sent the following message. As we now close in on the release date for 3.4, I thought I'd send it again, seeing that both of the problem reports are still marked "open", and neither of the two patches have been applied yet. (not even to current) These are both pretty tiny minor lovable cuddly changes... Any chance of getting them in for 3.4? Note that problem report bin/12912 probably depends on what umask is set when lpd starts up. The pr says "the problem doesn't seem to be reproducible", but reproducing the problem may depend on someone making a change elsewhere. Given that lpd uses the actual access-bit settings to govern it's behavior, then it should make sure the exactly-correct bit settings are set up when it creates the file. Also note that the fix for bin/9362, sent in as bin/13549, is also confirmed in bin/14975. >Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 18:14:55 -0500 >To: current@FreeBSD.org >From: Garance A Drosihn >Subject: Two fixes for lpd/lpc (printing) >Cc: kheuer@gwdu60.gwdg.de > >I noticed problem-report bin/9362, which reported that the >'lpc start' command no longer works. (it claims to start >the queue, but it doesn't actually start it). > >I came up with a two or three line fix for that bug, and >sent it in as problem-report bin/13549. This patch should >work on both freebsd-current and freebsd-stable. > >I also noticed problem report bin/12912. This PR includes >a patch to make sure that if a lockfile does not already >exist, then it will be created such that the queue is both >"enabled" and "started". I have not tried this exact patch >yet, but here at RPI we've had a similar patch to lpd for a >long time. We add printer queues to a master printcap file, >which is then copied to a few hundred workstations. We really >don't want to have to run around all those workstations to >'enable' and 'start' a queue that we have just added. Perhaps >we have a different 'umask' setting when lpd starts up than >most freebsd sites do... > >Could some other people try these simple patches, and see >how well they work? I am hoping these could make it into >the next official release, although I realize that time is >rapidly running out for that! :-) --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or drosih@rpi.edu Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 20 16:34: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C3914E5A for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 16:34:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA23624 for stable@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 17:34:00 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199911210034.RAA23624@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Toshiba laptop lawsuit To: stable@FreeBSD.org Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 17:34:00 -0700 (MST) Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was recently notified that I was a member of a class-action lawsuit against Toshiba on behalf of all laptop owners. It seems there is a microcode bug in the floppy disk controller chip that could (in theory) cause data loss or corruption when used with a multitasking operating system. > http://www.csd.toshiba.com/tais/csd/support/fdc/index.html The settlement offered includes a patch to be used with your operating system. FreeBSD 3.x was on the list of systems for which there were patches available, although the Toshiba web site only offered Win9x and NT 4.0 as choices. Does anyone on this list have more information? Is the fault on the laptop real? Who developed the FreeBSD patch, and what does it do? Is it open source? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 20 17: 4:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57EB615873 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 17:04:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt8-216-180-14-16.dialup.HiWAAY.net [216.180.14.16]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA09651; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 19:04:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA34284; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 18:43:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Message-Id: <199911210043.SAA34284@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "John Boteler" Cc: "Larry Baird" , "Thomas David Rivers" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: ASUS P2B-S and FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE In-reply-to: Message from "John Boteler" of "Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:29:59 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 18:43:02 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "John Boteler" writes: > It's a good idea on new systems, or on systems upgraded > or changed in a significant way, to select the > system BIOS' option to "Load optimum settings" or > equivalent. In some cases, one or more registers in > the CMOS memory might have gotten junk values inserted > by a previous operator or by a power glitch. > > This can give you the assurance that settings known > to the manufacturer to operate successfully will > be loaded and used. Ditto. My PPro gave me fits with the floppy drive. Seemingly worked OK from DOS 5.0 but not under FreeBSD. Then finally in a fit of desparation I selected "restore defaults", manually made my mandatory changes, and everything started working perfectly. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 20 17: 9:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.vnet.net (smtp2.vnet.net [166.82.1.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9FE159A4 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 17:09:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp2.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA11051; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 20:09:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA06538; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 20:09:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id UAA14901; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 20:09:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 20:09:13 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199911210109.UAA14901@lakes.dignus.com> To: chad@DCFinc.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Toshiba laptop lawsuit In-Reply-To: <199911210034.RAA23624@freeway.dcfinc.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Does anyone on this list have more information? Is the fault on the > laptop real? Who developed the FreeBSD patch, and what does it do? > Is it open source? > > -crl The "problem" is real; and exists on just about all Toshiba laptops. In a nutshell: o) According to an article in Var Business magazine, Toshiba purchased a FDC design from Nec many years ago - incorporating the controller into other components. o) Shortly after the incorporation of the FDC, Nec discovered that the floppy drive can have a one-byte failure under certain rare circumstances. o) The Nec controller was corrected and Toshiba was notified. o) However, in Toshiba's testing, the error never occurred. Toshiba did not alter their controller. o) The lawsuit was settled out of court. o) Toshiba notes that an error has never been reported, and it would be quite unlikely; but wanted to settle to avoid the potential of a large payment should the suit go to a jury trial. As I understand it, notebooks made after mid-november now have the correction. - Dave Rivers - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 20 21:49:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cybcon.com (mail.cybcon.com [216.190.188.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B5A14C1B; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 21:49:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wwoods@cybcon.com) Received: from freebsd.cybcon.com (pm3b-6.cybcon.com [205.147.75.71]) by mail.cybcon.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id UAA00379; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 20:42:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 20:40:35 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: wwoods@cybcon.com From: William Woods To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: StarOffice 5 on a SMP system..... Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Running FreeBSD 3.3-Stable, SMP. When I run StarOffice, it runs ok, but I get these messages: Nov 20 20:37:39 freebsd /kernel: shared address space fork attempted: pid: 350 Nov 20 20:37:39 freebsd /kernel: shared address space fork attempted: pid: 350 Nov 20 20:37:46 freebsd last message repeated 4 times Nov 20 20:37:46 freebsd last message repeated 4 times in my /var/log/messages....anything that I can do to stop this? FYI, I run the StarOffice 5 on my laptop also with 3.3-Stable and don't get these messages. ---------------------------------- E-Mail: William Woods Date: 20-Nov-99 Time: 20:38:06 FreeBSD 3.3 -Stable ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message