From owner-freebsd-chat Sat May 13 15:39:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F6D37BA69 for ; Sat, 13 May 2000 15:39:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhix@mindspring.com) Received: from mindspring.com (user-33qtjdv.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.205.191]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA08761 for ; Sat, 13 May 2000 18:39:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <391DDB3E.8DFFD8D0@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 15:46:22 -0700 From: W Gerald Hicks X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why are people against GNU? WAS Re: 5.0 already? References: <391D71FE.1570F551@asme.org> <391D4DAD.FD80980A@picusnet.com> <003b01bfbcdc$6059fb40$a164aad0@kickme> <391D71FE.1570F551@asme.org> <20000513205610.A22103@physics.iisc.ernet.in> <3.0.6.32.20000513143506.00895650@mail85.pair.com> <20000514010614.A16058@happy.checkpoint.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anatoly Vorobey wrote: > Stallman has never argued, AFAIK, for abolishing *material* property > (which is actually *the* Communist idea; Communism as an ideology > is rather indifferent to intellectual property and its special status); > he has never argued against democracy, or capitalism, or free market, > or any other Western capitalist ideal. He has argued against > intellectual property, in particular its restrictions in software; and > that is a radical and doubtable idea, but to claim it's Communist is > to make a fool of oneself, IMHO. In the present (US) economy intellectual property can be readily converted to material property. IMHO, Richard Stallman aligned GNU with communist ideology on purpose. Perhaps for the shock value to help generate controversy during the early stages of the GNU project and maybe even because he agrees with many of the tenets of communism. Not that I agree with many aspects of capitalism as it exists today either, particularly when one considers the often unhealthy influence wealthy corporations hold over our governments. It seems to me that greed is a universal ideology, regardless of any system of "government". Many people are against GNU because it attacks their livelihoods as being unethical and has been perceived as a threat to their lifestyles. It's pretty simple really. -- Jerry Hicks jhix@mindspring.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message