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Date:      Tue, 11 Jul 2000 13:12:35 +0200
From:      Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven <jruigrok@via-net-works.nl>
To:        Salvo Bartolotta <bartequi@inwind.it>
Cc:        freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, sheldonh@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: kern/19482: resent (my fault *sigh*)
Message-ID:  <20000711131235.K83055@lucifer.bart.nl>
In-Reply-To: <20000711.12022100@bartequi.ottodomain.org>; from bartequi@inwind.it on Tue, Jul 11, 2000 at 12:02:21PM %2B0000
References:  <20000711.12022100@bartequi.ottodomain.org>

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-On [20000711 13:05], Salvo Bartolotta (bartequi@inwind.it) wrote:
>my Oxford Dictionary (Pearsall, 1998) confirms the bad/negative shade
>of meaning:
>
>botch -> verb [with obj]: /* informal */ carry out a (task) badly or
>carelessly: <example1> he was accused of botching the job</example1>
><example2>a botched attempt to kill them</example2>
>
>The corresponding noun has the same connotations.
>
>However, both of you might be surprised to learn about the etymology:
>
><etymology according to Oxford Dictionary>
>Late Middle English: (in the sense of "repair" but originally not
>implying clumsiness): of unknown origin.
></etymology according to Oxford Dictionary>
>
>Please note: originally NOT implying clumsiness :-O
>
>Jeroen: in your language, is there a similar word having NO such
>bad/negative connotations ? Is this (a "false friend") the reason for
>your current choice ? :-)

Botched always meant to me something that was broken and is now being
fixed.  I never even knew of the negative meanings it has.  And if so,
it would seem a bit hardpressed to even think I could mean the negative
versions of this word.  IMHO, that would be a bit shortsighted.

Anyways, sorry if this sounds harsh, it is not intended that way, but I
am not going to waste a single more second on this.

-- 
Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven          Network- and systemadministrator
<jruigrok@via-net-works.nl>            VIA Net.Works The Netherlands
BSD: Technical excellence at its best  http://www.via-net-works.nl
``...by God I *KNOW* what this network is for, and you can't have it.''
	-- Russ Albery


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