From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 07:01:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D674FCA for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:01:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mixmaster@foto.nl1.torservers.net) Received: from foto.nl1.torservers.net (foto.nl1.torservers.net [77.247.181.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D088FC12 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:01:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by foto.nl1.torservers.net (Postfix, from userid 108) id 1D7B7F7A38; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 01:52:04 -0500 (EST) From: Anonymous Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at . To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Release Date Challenge, plus other stuff the project needs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 01:52:04 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:01:35 -0000 We, the users of FreeBSD, *do hereby challenge* the FreeBSD project to meet its future release dates. Why: Because the FreeBSD project has not met a significant number of its release dates. It's an apalling state of affairs and makes you, the project, look silly. Business and personal users plan elements of their schedules, budgets and capabilities around OS updates. And the continual failure of FreeBSD to deliver causes us to have no alternative but to look at our bosses and just shrug. We've taken to padding it out a week, two weeks, a month, two months... just to cover the random slippage. Since there seems to be no public statements about this ongoing situation, we might as well pad it to a quarter or a half... FreeBSD's already a half behind on status reports. No one is asking for a commercial dictatorship here. But please FreeBSD, coordinate better amongst yourselves!!! Be honest about what is and isn't going to make it. Grow the wiki as your central coordination center [ie 1] and start moving dynamic docs from www to there (the community). Replace GNATS (omg, ugh), SVN, and even MoinMoin so the world can interface with some things that it has some (good / market leading) experience with [2]. Other than that, FreeBSD is great :) [1] http://wiki.freebsd.org/WhatsNew/FreeBSD10 [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_software https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_issue_tracking_systems https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_help_desk_issue_tracking_software http://www.bestpractical.com/rt/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software_(PHP) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software http://www.simplemachines.org/