From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 2 22:52:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0DC16A400 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 22:52:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A842713C471 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 22:52:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g7so917742muf for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 14:52:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PGYTCzHTzDtHv5xiq6lMenSQwVORJ8hhMOD1Jn0PJy/HMrEySwUtAY0WwnHM2LVl2l26FTyXlXfh2d3KlNdGUEbqGTFLt9y8rCp6QIAh5rjfngRFT++xlpy0RcxjZa6hrnBdoAI7zw7UIQgLsb6ke4M5HNZLAwx26YHa3/NBQtE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QtbnoVPbUIABhceMlnYhAkpfVj0ARZZFieyHkFz2V1qGYDV2vpQKikKyaXQ9D8feAXO0S5Sf1Bzn1mOudjP2DMgrsNId3cgdwNIwx0CIC7zWjqCo7VdlvDsna5j7F7QnqEEiA06ZkJQDpd9oimXc2mmV+QgB3+FqCzBmiilBf6I= Received: by 10.82.107.15 with SMTP id f15mr1176971buc.1172875921428; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 14:52:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.175.1 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:52:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:52:01 -0600 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <57114.69.48.112.156.1172869231.squirrel@email.polands.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <57114.69.48.112.156.1172869231.squirrel@email.polands.org> Cc: Subject: Re: BSDstats report for Mar 1st, 2006 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 22:52:03 -0000 On 02/03/07, Doug Poland wrote: > On Fri, March 2, 2007 13:24, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > Well, I skip'd reporting last month, like anyone missed it, right? > > > I did :) > > > Well, last month, and this month, have been seen ~10% increases in > > first of month numbers, so its still growing ... > > > The numbers are still so low that I question if the project's goal > will be realized. Is it too early to extrapolate what the "real" > numbers may be? i.e., if we've got 5000 FreeBSD hosts, and we know > about 1 in 50 register, then there are probably 250,000 hosts in the > wild? > Based on a bit of trolling about, netcraft's most recent survey (that I could find) including operating systems numbers, which is March 2001 (surveys after that do not seem to have any sort of detailed OS counts), gives the BSDs as a whole at 6.3%, which is about 1.8 million sites running on one of the BSDs. Further futzing leads to http://leb.net/hzo/ioscount/data/r.9904.txt which shows as of April of 1999 15% of hosts being BSDs of some sort. The only queried about 1.7million hosts, though, and hosts are not sites or domain names. If I were an environemntal science major, I would conclude that BSDs as a whole are losing 4.3% of the aggregate per year, and currently have -19.5% of the web. Further more, by the year 2156 (when Mola Ram is due to rip the still beating heart from tEh interwob) the BSD family, including such holdouts as BSDi, FrogBSD, SkullCapBSD, and whatever fork of NetBSD happens to work on a nucul0r toaster of the year 2156 will be so widely deinstalled that you will need to write almost 2 billion new distros a month just to keep up with how many are being moved to iis. Also, there won't be any oil and your kids's kids will have suntans on their bone marrow. These numbers are important because they show that marketing works. -- --