From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 12 10:49:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sanson.reyes.somos.net (freyes.static.inch.com [216.223.199.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2336737BBCE for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 10:49:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Received: from tomasa (tomasa.reyes.somos.net [10.0.0.11]) by sanson.reyes.somos.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA47160 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 12:09:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Message-Id: <200003121709.MAA47160@sanson.reyes.somos.net> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "FreeBSD Stable List" Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 12:11:27 -0500 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 98 (4.10.2222) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How to get Sendmail 8.10 in stable? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What is the best way to get Sendmail 8.10 for Stable? I don't see a port. Do I need to get it directly from sendmail.org? Will this version of sendmail make it to stable 3.X or will be something for 4.X onward? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 12 11:21:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (pau-amma.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF3F37B9E9 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 11:21:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.3) id LAA53786; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 11:21:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhw) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 11:21:54 -0800 (PST) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200003121921.LAA53786@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: fran@reyes.somos.net Subject: Re: How to get Sendmail 8.10 in stable? Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200003121709.MAA47160@sanson.reyes.somos.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >From: "Francisco Reyes" >Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 12:11:27 -0500 >What is the best way to get Sendmail 8.10 for Stable? >I don't see a port. Do I need to get it directly from >sendmail.org? >Will this version of sendmail make it to stable 3.X or will be >something for 4.X onward? I won't claim that what's optimal for me is necessarily optimal for you (or anyone else), but after hearing from some of the folks involved with releasing 8.10 (who told me that even as beta12 it was more stable than 8.9.3, which had been quite solid for me on several machines, both at work and at home), I went ahead & fetched 8.10 from ftp.sendmail.org & installed it on a laptop running 4.0-RC3 (which I'm typing on at the moment), and it seemed to work just fine. That was yesterday morning; following that, yesterday afternoon I did the same on an UltraSPARC running Solaris 2.6, again with no trouble at all. Biggest "issue" is that some files have changed their (default) names, so those of us who are accustomed to looking for /etc/sendmail.cw need to get used to looking for /etc/mail/local-host-names, for example. (This is all documented in the cf/README file, which is even more of a treasure-trove of useful information than usual.) Anyway, I guess my point is that sendmail is strictly a user-level program -- it's easy to install a new release without being too concerned about what release of what OS you're running. Cheers, david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com UNIX System Administrator voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (888) 347-0197 FAX: (650) 372-5915 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 12 11:26:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.va.home.com (ha1.rdc1.va.home.com [24.2.32.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E66737B9E9 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 11:26:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from damascus@eden.rutgers.edu) Received: from damascus ([24.3.219.36]) by mail.rdc1.va.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <20000312192629.HKKF27802.mail.rdc1.va.home.com@damascus> for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 11:26:29 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000312143119.00b4f300@email.eden.rutgers.edu> X-Sender: damascus@email.eden.rutgers.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 14:33:10 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Carroll Kong Subject: Detecting ECC errors Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi. I took a look over the archives and noticed this ancient thread. (1998) However, I checked the handbook and LINT for options on how FreeBSD logs ECC errors, but I could not find anything. Has this finally been implemented? Or is there currently no way for the OS to detect the # of corrections / detections of errors by DIMM slot? -Carroll Kong To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 12 11:33:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (castles549.castles.com [208.214.165.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC9137BCAD for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 11:33:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08972; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 11:34:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200003121934.LAA08972@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Carroll Kong Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Detecting ECC errors In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Mar 2000 14:33:10 EST." <4.2.2.20000312143119.00b4f300@email.eden.rutgers.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 11:34:49 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi. I took a look over the archives and noticed this ancient > thread. (1998) However, I checked the handbook and LINT for options on > how FreeBSD logs ECC errors, but I could not find anything. Has this > finally been implemented? Or is there currently no way for the OS to > detect the # of corrections / detections of errors by DIMM slot? You're correct; there isn't. It's a relatively simple task that's been waiting for a junior hacker to come along and take it up. It's also devillishly difficult to _test_ such code... -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 12 11:54:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sanson.reyes.somos.net (freyes.static.inch.com [216.223.199.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A89C537BCC0 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 11:54:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Received: from tomasa (tomasa.reyes.somos.net [10.0.0.11]) by sanson.reyes.somos.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA47466; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 14:49:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Message-Id: <200003121949.OAA47466@sanson.reyes.somos.net> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "David Wolfskill" Cc: "FreeBSD Stable List" Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 14:51:21 -0500 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 98 (4.10.2222) In-Reply-To: <200003121921.LAA53786@pau-amma.whistle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: How to get Sendmail 8.10 in stable? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 12 Mar 2000 11:21:54 -0800 (PST), David Wolfskill wrote: Thanks for the reply. >Anyway, I guess my point is that sendmail is strictly a user-level >program -- it's easy to install a new release without being too concerned >about what release of what OS you're running. The reason I asked is because there IS some level of integration between FreeBSD and sendmail. For instance Buildworld re-creates the sendmail.cf did you have to take sendmail out of any of the configuration files (rc.conf, kernel)? I seem to recall that if one is going to use something other than the sendmail that comes with stable that one needs to disable something somewhere. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 12 12:18: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from luna.cdrom.com (adsl-63-192-209-55.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.192.209.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663A737BDAF for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 12:17:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@luna.cdrom.com) Received: by luna.cdrom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D5BCF251; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 12:17:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 12:17:18 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: Francisco Reyes Cc: David Wolfskill , FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: How to get Sendmail 8.10 in stable? Message-ID: <20000312121718.A394@luna.cdrom.com> Reply-To: jim@luna.cdrom.com References: <200003121921.LAA53786@pau-amma.whistle.com> <200003121949.OAA47466@sanson.reyes.somos.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.8i In-Reply-To: <200003121949.OAA47466@sanson.reyes.somos.net>; from fran@reyes.somos.net on Sun, Mar 12, 2000 at 02:51:21PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 12 Mar 2000 at 14:51:21 -0500, Francisco Reyes wrote: > On Sun, 12 Mar 2000 11:21:54 -0800 (PST), David Wolfskill wrote: > Thanks for the reply. > > >Anyway, I guess my point is that sendmail is strictly a user-level > >program -- it's easy to install a new release without being too > >concerned about what release of what OS you're running. > > The reason I asked is because there IS some level of integration > between FreeBSD and sendmail. For instance Buildworld re-creates the > sendmail.cf You don't have to build/install it. Put 'NO_SENDMAIL= true' in /etc/make.conf and it won't be touched when you make world. - jim -- - jim mock - walnut creek cdrom/freebsd test labs - jim@luna.cdrom.com - - phone: 1.925.691.2800 x.3814 - fax: 1.925.674.0821 - jim@FreeBSD.org - - editor - The FreeBSDzine - www.freebsdzine.org - jim@freebsdzine.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 12 12:27: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0CB37BD59 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 12:26:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <115654>; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 07:27:44 +1100 Content-return: prohibited From: Peter Jeremy Subject: -stable hanging. To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <00Mar13.072744est.115654@border.alcanet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 07:27:43 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a Dell OptiPlex GXi (Pentium-133 with 96MB RAM) running 3.4-STABLE (from 28th February) which is used as a WAN simulator (using dummynet). Occasionally, it it hangs with the disk light on and won't respond to the keyboard (including trying to enter DDB) or LAN. Since it won't panic, and I can't get to DDB, I can't get a crashdump, so all I've got to go on is the boot messages (below). Does anyone have any ideas? Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE #4: Tue Feb 29 07:15:46 EST 2000 root@:/usr/src/sys/compile/wansim Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium/P54C (132.95-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping = 12 Features=0x1bf real memory = 100663296 (98304K bytes) avail memory = 94904320 (92680K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02b8000. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.0 ide_pci0: rev 0x00 on pci0.7.1 fxp0: rev 0x08 int a irq 11 on pci0.13.0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:20:c4:9f fxp1: rev 0x08 int a irq 10 on pci0.14.0 fxp1: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:20:8f:ee fxp2: rev 0x08 int a irq 9 on pci0.15.0 fxp2: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:20:bd:ab vga0: rev 0x54 int a irq 11 on pci0.16.0 xl0: <3Com 3c905-TX Fast Etherlink XL> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci0.17.0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:c0:4f:ba:32:2b xl0: autoneg complete, link status good (half-duplex, 100Mbps) Probing for PnP devices: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <12 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 flags 0xb0ffb0ff on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , LBA, DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-16 wd0: 2014MB (4124736 sectors), 1023 cyls, 64 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa ppc0: Generic chipset (ECP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 lppps0: on ppbus 0 plip0: on ppbus 0 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 irq 12 on isa psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, default to accept, logging limited to 100 packets/entry by default DUMMYNET initialized (000212) changing root device to wd0s1a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted xl0: selecting MII, 100Mbps, half duplex xl0: selecting MII, 100Mbps, half duplex Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 12 12:31:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A12337B716 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 12:31:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA26718; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:04:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:04:07 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Peter Jeremy Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -stable hanging. Message-ID: <20000312130407.L14279@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <00Mar13.072744est.115654@border.alcanet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <00Mar13.072744est.115654@border.alcanet.com.au>; from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au on Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 07:27:43AM +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Peter Jeremy [000312 13:02] wrote: > I have a Dell OptiPlex GXi (Pentium-133 with 96MB RAM) running > 3.4-STABLE (from 28th February) which is used as a WAN simulator > (using dummynet). Occasionally, it it hangs with the disk light > on and won't respond to the keyboard (including trying to enter > DDB) or LAN. Since it won't panic, and I can't get to DDB, I > can't get a crashdump, so all I've got to go on is the boot > messages (below). Does anyone have any ideas? Actually you can get into DDB, hit ctrl+alt+esc, please let us know where it hangs. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 12 13: 5:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CD437B844 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:05:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DougB@simplenet.com) Received: from simplenet.com (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA72921; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:05:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DougB@simplenet.com) Message-ID: <38CC068C.C891038D@simplenet.com> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:05:16 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT-0307 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Francisco Reyes Cc: David Wolfskill , FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: How to get Sendmail 8.10 in stable? References: <200003121949.OAA47466@sanson.reyes.somos.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Francisco Reyes wrote: > did you have to take sendmail out of any of the configuration > files (rc.conf, kernel)? There is a "no sendmail" option in /etc/make.conf. Good luck, Doug -- "Welcome to the desert of the real." - Laurence Fishburne as Morpheus, "The Matrix" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 12 13:11:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F8F237BC42; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:11:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA72926; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:11:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <38CC07F7.B55F708B@gorean.org> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:11:19 -0800 From: Doug Barton Reply-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT-0307 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Smith Cc: Carroll Kong , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Detecting ECC errors References: <200003121934.LAA08972@mass.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG CC'ing -hackers in case we can scare up some interest . . . Mike Smith wrote: > > > Hi. I took a look over the archives and noticed this ancient > > thread. (1998) However, I checked the handbook and LINT for options on > > how FreeBSD logs ECC errors, but I could not find anything. Has this > > finally been implemented? Or is there currently no way for the OS to > > detect the # of corrections / detections of errors by DIMM slot? > > You're correct; there isn't. It's a relatively simple task that's been > waiting for a junior hacker to come along and take it up. It's also > devillishly difficult to _test_ such code... This would be a very valuable thing to have though (just to restate the obvious). We had a sun machine go down at work with no symptoms at all... other than the log which showed that ECC errors were being caught and corrected (mostly) at a furious pace. If not for that log we would have spent hours testing possible reasons for the crash. Doug -- "Welcome to the desert of the real." - Laurence Fishburne as Morpheus, "The Matrix" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 12 13:18:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uunet.ca (mail2.uunet.ca [142.77.1.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 771FB37BD0B for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:18:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca ([216.95.146.6]) by mail2.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <627727-19328>; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 01:34:01 -0500 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 01:38:17 -0500 From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: SMP on 3.4-STABLE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is just to thank all those that replied to my previous post about SMP on 3.4-stable, you've made my decision much easier in that I'm now confident that it should work fine. Thanks again. Matt -- Matt Heckaman [matt@arpa.mail.net|matt@relic.net] [Please do not send me] !Powered by FreeBSD/x86! [http://www.freebsd.org] [any SPAM (UCE) e-mail] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 12 14:34:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7831237B833; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 14:34:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from noslenj@swbell.net) Received: from acp.swbell.net ([207.193.25.89]) by mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FRB00AGKYPQ0J@mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net>; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 16:34:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (noslenj@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by acp.swbell.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01026; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 16:31:41 -0600 (CST envelope-from noslenj@swbell.net) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 16:31:41 -0600 (CST) From: Jay Nelson Subject: Re: Groff 1.15 In-reply-to: <20000309212529.A6765@lucifer.bart.nl> To: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Cc: stable@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: >Hi STABLE people, > >I just finished the working MFC of groff 1.15 and all looks well... > >This is a working compilation MFC which does need a buildworld to get >the mtree stuff to run or else do a mtree of BSD.usr.* by hand since we >added some new dirs to /usr/share/tmac. > >In the following hours I'll finish the MFC of the new features of groff >1.15, like devhtml and such. This isn't a barn-burner, but the html addition didn't build or install. The directory was created in /usr/share/groff_font, but nothing was installed under /usr/obj and nothing made it to /usr/share/groff_font. Source was supped Friday night, about 2PM UTC. Maybe I was too soon. -- Jay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 12 15:33:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from everest.overx.com (everest.overx.com [63.93.29.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D3237BC18 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 15:33:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dayton@overx.com) Received: from polo.overx.com (polo.overx.com [63.93.29.12]) by everest.overx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D7E2031; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 17:33:47 -0600 (CST) Received: by polo.overx.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 846DF3F2F; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 17:34:23 -0600 (CST) From: Soren Dayton Reply-To: dayton+freebsd-stable@overx.com To: "Charles N. Owens" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Mike Squires , kingsled@enc.edu Subject: Re: samba 2.0.6 crashing -stable References: <868zzr6c15.fsf@polo.overx.com> <38C90BB4.3535B7AE@enc.edu> Date: 12 Mar 2000 17:34:23 -0600 In-Reply-To: "Charles N. Owens"'s message of "Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:50:28 -0500" Message-ID: <86snxvvk3k.fsf@polo.overx.com> Lines: 106 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070099 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.99) XEmacs/21.1 (Bryce Canyon) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Charles N. Owens" writes: > Soren Dayton wrote: > > > Hi, > > I've been having a recurring problem with samba on my freebsd > > machines. It began when I was running 3.2, and it appears to still be > > around with -stable. (and samba 2.0.3, and now 2.0.6) > > Basically, when copying large files, the FreeBSD file server appears > > to lose all of its network connectivity. It cannot be pinged, etc. > > You also cannot log in as root because it hangs after you type in > > `root' on console. (which might be concistent with all networking > > failing. I think, but have not verified this, that anything that does > > not use NIS or some such thing will continue to work. > > Some questions: > > Is root a local or NIS user? local. But the machine is an NIS server (but this should have no bearing on your question) > How long does this connectivity loss last? Does it go away by itself or > do you have to force it somehow (e.g. reset)? It doesn't seem to ever come back. I've given it about 10-15 minutes > Where is the NIS server (ypserv) that you're binding to in this setup? On > the same box or on a different box? same box. Also talks NFS, samba, and mail for a cluster of ~10 machines. > I have a 3.2-stable box (PII-400, 128MB RAM) currently running samba 2.0.5 > and I'm wondering if I'm seeing the same thing. When trying to access > files via samba I'll encounter 30+ second delays for no apparent reason. > I've not noticed that all net traffic stops but I'm going start looking. I also saw this with 3.2 (release) with samba 2.0.3. Pl > Are you thinking that some kind of subtle (or not so subtle) samba problem > is somehow jamming the network interface... causing ypbind to cough... > then while it is trying to sort things out (rebinding perhaps) samba is > hung waiting for any pending user database lookups to complete? I don't know. When there's already a root shell on console I find that I can't ping anyone on the network (note that if the shell is there, I can do plenty of things, as long as I don't go through the network stuff. For example: # ls works, but with `-l' it doesn't. Also, the samba connection eats itself before other connections do. So, for example, there will be no more progress on the copying, and, a shell (through ssh) will still work for another couple of seconds. Also. A place that I worked at a year ago had a problem in which their NFS servers (FreeBSD 3.1 at the time, I think) would eat themselves under very high stress. I don't know what the nic was. > If this is what you're thinking then we have at least two paths two > pursue: > > * Find root cause > * Optimize NIS implementation to minimize effects of problem > (perhaps by making client a slave server to keep the client > binding and lookup traffic local) > As far as the root cause is concerned I've got less to say. Interestingly > enough, I _also_ am using a Intel Pro 10/100 nic ! That makes three of > us, doesn't it? Following Mike Squires' lead, here's my fxp0 stats (from > netstat -i) > > Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll > fxp0 1500 00.a0.c9.d6.54.7d 64352010 19 88144552 0 0 Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll fxp0 1500 00:90:27:8a:4c:36 4618995 31 6471420 0 1869745 (yes, I know. I should worry about those collisions. But my network is getting switched soon...) You know. I just started thinking about this... And you know what I found? That when I induce the failure, there are a bunch of collisions. Would there be any change that collisions would be handled badly somewhere either in the card or the driver? And it only shows up on networks that are a little over done (like mine right now) > Similar pattern as far as errors go. This may be completely meaningless, > though. I think some of the discussion between you two wasn't cc:'d to > this list, so you may have covered this... but do you suspect the problem > is somehow related to the nic? Perhaps. I'm sort of in the dark. > I'll let you know what happens after I make the samba server a NIS slave > server. Thanks. I'm utterly bewildered about what's happening. And I have no idea how I could help. Soren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 12 15:36:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E06037B825 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 15:36:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <115372>; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:37:03 +1100 Content-return: prohibited From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: -stable hanging. In-reply-to: <20000312130407.L14279@fw.wintelcom.net>; from bright@wintelcom.net on Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 07:34:02AM +1100 To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <00Mar13.103703est.115372@border.alcanet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <00Mar13.072744est.115654@border.alcanet.com.au> <20000312130407.L14279@fw.wintelcom.net> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:37:01 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2000-Mar-13 07:34:02 +1100, Alfred Perlstein wrote: >* Peter Jeremy [000312 13:02] wrote: >> on and won't respond to the keyboard (including trying to enter >> DDB) > >Actually you can get into DDB, hit ctrl+alt+esc, please let us >know where it hangs. As I said, pressing Ctrl-Alt-Esc does nothing. And DDB is compiled into the kernel. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 12 16: 2:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pi.yip.org (yip.org [199.45.111.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F230E37B51D for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 16:02:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Received: from localhost (melange@localhost) by pi.yip.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA85951; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:02:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:02:14 -0500 (EST) From: Bob K X-Sender: melange@localhost To: dayton+freebsd-stable@overx.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: samba 2.0.6 crashing -stable In-Reply-To: <86snxvvk3k.fsf@polo.overx.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Apologies for the lack of trimming the quote, but I'm in a rush. Anyway, one thing you could try in an effort to narrow down if it's the NIC or not is to post the result of ifconfig fxp0 when the box is down (but you have a root shell on the console); you could also try ifconfig fxp0 down; ifconfig fxp0 up to see if that brings things back. On 12 Mar 2000, Soren Dayton wrote: > "Charles N. Owens" writes: > > > Soren Dayton wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > I've been having a recurring problem with samba on my freebsd > > > machines. It began when I was running 3.2, and it appears to still be > > > around with -stable. (and samba 2.0.3, and now 2.0.6) > > > Basically, when copying large files, the FreeBSD file server appears > > > to lose all of its network connectivity. It cannot be pinged, etc. > > > You also cannot log in as root because it hangs after you type in > > > `root' on console. (which might be concistent with all networking > > > failing. I think, but have not verified this, that anything that does > > > not use NIS or some such thing will continue to work. > > > > Some questions: > > > > Is root a local or NIS user? > > local. But the machine is an NIS server (but this should have no > bearing on your question) > > > How long does this connectivity loss last? Does it go away by itself or > > do you have to force it somehow (e.g. reset)? > > It doesn't seem to ever come back. I've given it about 10-15 minutes > > > Where is the NIS server (ypserv) that you're binding to in this setup? On > > the same box or on a different box? > > same box. Also talks NFS, samba, and mail for a cluster of ~10 > machines. > > > I have a 3.2-stable box (PII-400, 128MB RAM) currently running samba 2.0.5 > > and I'm wondering if I'm seeing the same thing. When trying to access > > files via samba I'll encounter 30+ second delays for no apparent reason. > > I've not noticed that all net traffic stops but I'm going start looking. > > I also saw this with 3.2 (release) with samba 2.0.3. Pl > > > Are you thinking that some kind of subtle (or not so subtle) samba problem > > is somehow jamming the network interface... causing ypbind to cough... > > then while it is trying to sort things out (rebinding perhaps) samba is > > hung waiting for any pending user database lookups to complete? > > I don't know. When there's already a root shell on console I find > that I can't ping anyone on the network (note that if the shell is > there, I can do plenty of things, as long as I don't go through the > network stuff. For example: > > # ls > > works, but with `-l' it doesn't. Also, the samba connection eats > itself before other connections do. So, for example, there will be no > more progress on the copying, and, a shell (through ssh) will still > work for another couple of seconds. > > > > Also. A place that I worked at a year ago had a problem in which > their NFS servers (FreeBSD 3.1 at the time, I think) would eat > themselves under very high stress. I don't know what the nic was. > > > If this is what you're thinking then we have at least two paths two > > pursue: > > > > * Find root cause > > * Optimize NIS implementation to minimize effects of problem > > (perhaps by making client a slave server to keep the client > > binding and lookup traffic local) > > > As far as the root cause is concerned I've got less to say. Interestingly > > enough, I _also_ am using a Intel Pro 10/100 nic ! That makes three of > > us, doesn't it? Following Mike Squires' lead, here's my fxp0 stats (from > > netstat -i) > > > > Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll > > fxp0 1500 00.a0.c9.d6.54.7d 64352010 19 88144552 0 0 > > Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll > fxp0 1500 00:90:27:8a:4c:36 4618995 31 6471420 0 1869745 > > (yes, I know. I should worry about those collisions. But my network > is getting switched soon...) > > > You know. I just started thinking about this... And you know what I > found? That when I induce the failure, there are a bunch of > collisions. Would there be any change that collisions would be > handled badly somewhere either in the card or the driver? And it only > shows up on networks that are a little over done (like mine right now) > > > Similar pattern as far as errors go. This may be completely meaningless, > > though. I think some of the discussion between you two wasn't cc:'d to > > this list, so you may have covered this... but do you suspect the problem > > is somehow related to the nic? > > Perhaps. I'm sort of in the dark. > > > I'll let you know what happens after I make the samba server a NIS slave > > server. > > Thanks. I'm utterly bewildered about what's happening. And I have no > idea how I could help. > > Soren > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > Bob "Don't make the bear smarter when it's asleep" - Ioana Timariu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 12 20:37: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sanson.reyes.somos.net (freyes.static.inch.com [216.223.199.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C538437B556 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 20:37:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fran@sanson.reyes.somos.net) Received: from tomasa (tomasa.reyes.somos.net [10.0.0.11]) by sanson.reyes.somos.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA48236 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 23:32:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from fran@sanson.reyes.somos.net) Message-Id: <200003130432.XAA48236@sanson.reyes.somos.net> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "FreeBSD Stable List" Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 23:34:07 -0500 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 98 (4.10.2222) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Taking over Updating for Stable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Who do I need to talk to to take over the /etc/UPDATING file for stable I got a computer just to do daily MakeWorlds. What info would you all find usefull on this file? For the most part it should be fairly uneventfull. Would it be usefull to have info about some of the auxiliary files/daemons such as bind/sendmail? For instance I just had some issues with DNS because there was a chance some time back and I had not adjusted my DNS files. When I re-started after a make-world DNS was giving some errors in one box and stopped working on another. This is not directly related to FreeBSD, but it will bite those doing MakeWorld... I will be ready in a few days to do the daily builds. I am doing a little project I always wanted to do... compute sizes for some of the default distribution. So far did 3.3 Release FreeBSD Sizes Dist / /usr Min 20 55 User 21 90 Xuser 21 125 X-Kern Developer 21 170 No ports. Selecting SVGA, VGA and Mono as X servers. 75 and 100 dpi fonts. Next I am going to do 3.4 ... just out of curiosity.. don't expect it to be too different from 3.3 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 2:40:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E49337B52A; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 02:40:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC970CCFD; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:40:40 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:40:17 +0100 To: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Weirdest crash I ever saw... Cc: John Baldwin Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 7:38 PM +0100 2000/3/10, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 7:23 PM +0100 2000/3/10, Brad Knowles wrote: > >> As soon as I can, I'll gdb the crash dump, and post the trace >>back here. > > Okay, here's the traceback with debugging symbols: Man, yet another crash on this machine. I've got the serial console attached, I've got DDB compiled into the kernel, I've got DEBUGGER_ON_BREAK defined, but none of that helps when the bootloader is what craps out on me. Here's what I got this time: F1 DOS F2 FreeBSD F5 Drive 1 Default: F2 /boot.config: -P Keyboard: no int=00000000 err=00000000 efl=00030083 eip=00000004 eax=000004e3 ebx=0000097f ecx=0000dc00 edx=000034be esi=0000dc00 edi=00000004 ebp=00000000 esp=000004ce cs=c800 ds=c800 es=9e7d fs=0000 gs=0000 ss=9e7b cs:eip=d4 00 00 00 00 00 00 00-00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ss:esp=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00-00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 System halted I hope I typed that in correctly. Anyway, I'm pretty sure that I'm using the latest boot blocks and bootloader -- I followed steps #4 & #5 of 14.5.4.2 of the Handbook (see ) after my most recent installworld (from late last week), and I had to do a "make clean; make install" in each case. I just pressed the reset switch and rebooted, and this occurred again with exactly the same values, etc... -- it appears that this problem is reproducible. I'm going to try rebooting with the keyboard plugged in, so that I can see if this makes a difference. Is any of this of actually any help to anyone on this list, or should I be posting these questions/updates to some other list (e.g., -current, or -hackers)? -- These are my opinions and should not be taken as official Skynet policy ========================================================================= Brad Knowles, Sys. Arch., Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin Note: No Microsoft programs were used in the creation or distribution of this message. If you are using a Microsoft program to view this message, be forewarned that I am not responsible for any harm you may encounter as a result. See for details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 2:45: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EABC37B5B5; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 02:45:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C84A7CDD1; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:45:01 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:44:46 +0100 To: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Weirdest crash I ever saw... Cc: John Baldwin Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:40 AM +0100 2000/3/13, Brad Knowles wrote: > I just pressed the reset switch and rebooted, and this occurred > again with exactly the same values, etc... -- it appears that this > problem is reproducible. I'm going to try rebooting with the > keyboard plugged in, so that I can see if this makes a difference. Sigh.... Whether the keyboard is plugged in or not appears to make no difference. At this point, I'm about out of ideas. Anybody else got any? -- These are my opinions and should not be taken as official Skynet policy ========================================================================= Brad Knowles, Sys. Arch., Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin Note: No Microsoft programs were used in the creation or distribution of this message. If you are using a Microsoft program to view this message, be forewarned that I am not responsible for any harm you may encounter as a result. See for details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 3:28:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from node11a94.a2000.nl (node11a94.a2000.nl [24.132.26.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1349C37BB2B for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 03:28:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ronald@node11a94.a2000.nl) Received: (qmail 28409 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2000 11:28:42 -0000 Received: from dlanor.evertsen.nl (10.0.0.3) by node11a94.a2000.nl with SMTP; 13 Mar 2000 11:28:42 -0000 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:28:38 +0100 (CET) From: Ronald Klop To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: docs about kernel internals Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I'm trying to implement a kernelmodule for a filesystem. Can somebody point me to documentation or books with information about how to connect new filesystems to the vfs? I already understand the big picture from the sources, but the details are still unclear. Greetings, Ronald. -- Ronald Klop http://node11a94.a2000.nl/~ronald/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 3:38: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A099137BB8E; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 03:37:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8EC0CB11; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:37:54 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:37:40 +0100 To: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Weirdest crash I ever saw... Cc: John Baldwin Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:44 AM +0100 2000/3/13, Brad Knowles wrote: > At this point, I'm about out of ideas. Anybody else got any? I've managed to get the thing to boot okay, so long as the Comparex D1400 (Hitachi DF400) external RAID array is not attached to the pair of Adaptec 2940U2W host adaptors in the machine. I'm going to try re-attaching it and see if the problem comes back, and if so, I'm going to try attaching it to just one adaptor. -- These are my opinions and should not be taken as official Skynet policy ========================================================================= Brad Knowles, Sys. Arch., Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin Note: No Microsoft programs were used in the creation or distribution of this message. If you are using a Microsoft program to view this message, be forewarned that I am not responsible for any harm you may encounter as a result. See for details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 4:23: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.skynet.be (trinity.skynet.be [195.238.2.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1ABE37B5F7; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 04:23:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by trinity.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395CD12452; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:22:29 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:22:14 +0100 To: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Weirdest crash I ever saw... Cc: John Baldwin Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:37 PM +0100 2000/3/13, Brad Knowles wrote: > I've managed to get the thing to boot okay, so long as the > Comparex D1400 (Hitachi DF400) external RAID array is not > attached to the pair of Adaptec 2940U2W host adaptors in the > machine. I'm going to try re-attaching it and see if the > problem comes back, and if so, I'm going to try attaching it > to just one adaptor. Don't ask me why or how, but now the machine appears to come up okay with the Comparex D1400/Hitachi DF400 attached to both Adaptec 2940U2W controllers. But now I'm back to the point where it leaks 240VAC, which makes it rather unpleasant to do things like it was supposedly designed to do, such as plugging additional hosts in while the drive array is powered on and online, although the new host(s) presumably would be turned off. Anybody got a spare rubber chicken they can loan me? I seem to have left mine back in the US. Thanks! -- These are my opinions and should not be taken as official Skynet policy ========================================================================= Brad Knowles, Sys. Arch., Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin Note: No Microsoft programs were used in the creation or distribution of this message. If you are using a Microsoft program to view this message, be forewarned that I am not responsible for any harm you may encounter as a result. See for details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 7:58:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from members.freedomnet.com (mail.freedomnet.com [198.240.104.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F4037BB64 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 07:58:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (john@ric-52.freedomnet.com [198.240.105.52]) by members.freedomnet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7/antispam) with ESMTP id KAA26127; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:32:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200003131532.KAA26127@members.freedomnet.com> X-Envelope-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:56:15 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Weirdest crash I ever saw... Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 13-Mar-00 Brad Knowles wrote: > At 7:38 PM +0100 2000/3/10, Brad Knowles wrote: > >> At 7:23 PM +0100 2000/3/10, Brad Knowles wrote: >> >>> As soon as I can, I'll gdb the crash dump, and post the trace >>>back here. >> >> Okay, here's the traceback with debugging symbols: > > Man, yet another crash on this machine. I've got the serial > console attached, I've got DDB compiled into the kernel, I've got > DEBUGGER_ON_BREAK defined, but none of that helps when the bootloader > is what craps out on me. Here's what I got this time: > > F1 DOS > F2 FreeBSD > F5 Drive 1 > > Default: F2 > > /boot.config: -P > Keyboard: no > > int=00000000 err=00000000 efl=00030083 eip=00000004 > eax=000004e3 ebx=0000097f ecx=0000dc00 edx=000034be > esi=0000dc00 edi=00000004 ebp=00000000 esp=000004ce > cs=c800 ds=c800 es=9e7d fs=0000 gs=0000 ss=9e7b > cs:eip=d4 00 00 00 00 00 00 00-00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 > ss:esp=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00-00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 > System halted > > I hope I typed that in correctly. Ok, that is useful. Sort of. Are you sure that int number is right? int=0 is a Divide by Zero error, where as the instruction you died on is an 'out' instruction, which does I/O, not math. This is some sort of expansion ROM BIOS for some card you have. What hardware is in this system? > Anyway, I'm pretty sure that I'm using the latest boot blocks and > bootloader -- I followed steps #4 & #5 of 14.5.4.2 of the Handbook > (see ) after my most > recent installworld (from late last week), and I had to do a "make > clean; make install" in each case. > > I just pressed the reset switch and rebooted, and this occurred > again with exactly the same values, etc... -- it appears that this > problem is reproducible. I'm going to try rebooting with the > keyboard plugged in, so that I can see if this makes a difference. > > Is any of this of actually any help to anyone on this list, or > should I be posting these questions/updates to some other list (e.g., > -current, or -hackers)? A BTX fault like the above is useful to myself at least, and potentially anyone else who does x86 assembly foo. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 8:36:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB41A37BB84; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:36:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.24.123] (dialup379.brussels2.skynet.be [195.238.24.123]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5D3CD38; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:36:12 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200003131532.KAA26127@members.freedomnet.com> References: <200003131532.KAA26127@members.freedomnet.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:35:39 +0100 To: John Baldwin From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Weirdest crash I ever saw... Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:56 AM -0500 2000/3/13, John Baldwin wrote: > Ok, that is useful. Sort of. Are you sure that int number is right? Yup, I checked it again when I rebooted, and it came up the same. > int=0 is a Divide by Zero error, where as the instruction you died on > is an 'out' instruction, which does I/O, not math. This is some sort > of expansion ROM BIOS for some card you have. What hardware is in this > system? This is a Dell PowerEdge 1300/450 (dual CPUs w/ 512KB L2 cache each), 1GB of RAM, OS on the internal Quantum Atlas IV 9GB HD which is attached to the built-in Adaptec AIC-7890 controller. I have two Adaptec 2940U2W controllers attached to two separate interfaces of a Comparex D1400 (Hitachi DF400) drive array with dual controllers (one interface per controller). > A BTX fault like the above is useful to myself at least, and potentially > anyone else who does x86 assembly foo. I'm glad someone here groks this stuff. ;-) Thanks! -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 8:54:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B1337BC4D; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:54:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DougB@simplenet.com) Received: from simplenet.com (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA80055; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:54:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DougB@simplenet.com) Message-ID: <38CD1D49.EA3FA65A@simplenet.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:54:33 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT-0312a i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brad Knowles Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List , John Baldwin Subject: Re: Weirdest crash I ever saw... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brad Knowles wrote: > Man, yet another crash on this machine. I've got the serial > console attached, I've got DDB compiled into the kernel, I've got > DEBUGGER_ON_BREAK defined, but none of that helps when the bootloader > is what craps out on me. Here's what I got this time: Had a very similar crash on a set of new machines we got in. Turned out they had bad disks. HTH, Doug -- "Welcome to the desert of the real." - Laurence Fishburne as Morpheus, "The Matrix" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 8:56:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2691F37BDC4 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:56:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE620E89A; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:56:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA06960; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:56:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14541.7612.869779.417688@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:56:28 -0500 (EST) To: "Francisco Reyes" Cc: "FreeBSD Stable List" Subject: Re: How to get Sendmail 8.10 in stable? In-Reply-To: <200003121949.OAA47466@sanson.reyes.somos.net> References: <200003121921.LAA53786@pau-amma.whistle.com> <200003121949.OAA47466@sanson.reyes.somos.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "FR" == Francisco Reyes writes: FR> I seem to recall that if one is going to use something other FR> than the sendmail that comes with stable that one needs to FR> disable something somewhere. /etc/make.conf -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 PGP & MIME spoken here http://www.kciLink.com/home/khera/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 9:12:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.skynet.be (trinity.skynet.be [195.238.2.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5992437B62B; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:12:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.24.123] (dialup379.brussels2.skynet.be [195.238.24.123]) by trinity.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B96127A3; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:11:19 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <38CD1D49.EA3FA65A@simplenet.com> References: <38CD1D49.EA3FA65A@simplenet.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:09:53 +0100 To: Doug Barton From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Weirdest crash I ever saw... Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List , John Baldwin Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 8:54 AM -0800 2000/3/13, Doug Barton wrote: > Had a very similar crash on a set of new machines we got in. Turned out > they had bad disks. Hmm. I do have a spare IBM 4GB HD laying around, I guess I could try building on that instead. It'd be a pain, though -- I really kinda need that 9GB of disk space, if I'm going to have enough room in /var for crash dumps, etc.... Thanks for the advice! I may decide to give that a try -- I was going to consider using the IBM disk to allow me to dual-boot -CURRENT and -STABLE anyway, so maybe I should consider switching the proposed uses of the disks. Hmm.... Thanks again! -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 10: 3:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from silver.komanda.com.ua (silver.komanda.com.ua [212.68.162.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B1737BE40 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:03:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sysop@silver.komanda.com.ua) Received: (from root@localhost) by silver.komanda.com.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA09443 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 20:05:37 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sysop) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 20:05:37 +0200 From: Charlie & To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Version of stable? Message-ID: <20000313200537.A9063@silver.komanda.com.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi FreeBSDuserd! I wonder what is the version of 3 branch stable? If I put RELENG_3 into cvsup-stable file will I get 3.4-stable or 3.2-stable? Thanks for hint. Alex. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 10:21:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF83F37B58C for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:21:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA26999; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:53:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:53:49 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Charlie & Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Version of stable? Message-ID: <20000313105349.Z14279@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20000313200537.A9063@silver.komanda.com.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000313200537.A9063@silver.komanda.com.ua>; from root@silver.komanda.com.ua on Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 08:05:37PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Charlie & [000313 10:46] wrote: > Hi FreeBSDuserd! > > I wonder what is the version of 3 branch stable? > If I put RELENG_3 into cvsup-stable file will I get > 3.4-stable or 3.2-stable? You will get 3-stable (post 3.4), the 3.x versions of FreeBSD are snapshots of the 3-stable development line. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 10:35:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from over.ru (over.rinet.ru [195.54.192.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 28DF637B643 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:35:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tarkhil@over.ru) Received: (qmail 48153 invoked by uid 1000); 13 Mar 2000 18:35:57 -0000 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 21:35:57 +0300 From: Alex Povolotsky To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Cannot build stable? Message-ID: <20000313213557.D47256@over.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! Today's make release choke on cc -O -pipe -Wall -DLIBC_SCCS -I/usr/src/lib/libutil -I/usr/src/lib/libutil/../../sys -DINET6 -c login_tty.c -o login_tty.o loIn file included from /usr/src/lib/libutil/../../sys/sys/signal.h:245, from /usr/src/lib/libutil/../../sys/sys/param.h:90, from login_tty.c:43: /usr/src/lib/libutil/../../sys/sys/ucontext.h:34: machine/ucontext.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/src/lib/libutil/../../sys/sys/signal.h:245, from /usr/src/lib/libutil/../../sys/sys/param.h:90, from login_tty.c:43: /usr/src/lib/libutil/../../sys/sys/ucontext.h:46: parse error before context_t' /usr/src/lib/libutil/../../sys/sys/ucontext.h:46: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/src/lib/libutil/../../sys/sys/ucontext.h:51: parse error before }' /usr/src/lib/libutil/../../sys/sys/ucontext.h:51: warning: data definition has no type or storage class !*** Error code 1 Stop. :-( Alex. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 11: 3:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from primex.prontel.net (primex.prontel.net [216.242.25.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74A337BB84 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:03:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from netadmin@primex.prontel.net) Received: from sysop1 (matrix.prontel.net [216.242.25.4]) by primex.prontel.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA28139 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:10:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from netadmin@primex.prontel.net) From: "Lester A. Mesa" To: Subject: *** Error code 1 on make buildworld Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 19:02:35 -0500 Message-ID: <004601bf8d48$9b0019a0$38040a0a@prontel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Disposition-Notification-To: "Lester A. Mesa" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm currently running a server with 3.2-RELEASE and I'm trying to update my server to 3.4-STABLE. These are the steps I took to make this upgrade: 1: I updated the source, cvsup -g -L 2 stable-supfile 2: Drop to single user-mode, shutdown now 3: fsck -p, mout -u /, mount -a -t -ufs and swapon -a 4: I had nothing on the /usr/obj so I left it alone. 5: cd /usr/src and make buildworld this are my settings in /etc/make.conf NOPROFILE= true COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe USA_RESIDENT= YES FORCE_PKG_REGISTER= YES for some reason this is how make buildworld is exiting.. Any ideas? ===> share/doc/usd/12.vi/viapwh touch _stamp.extraobjs (cd /usr/src/share/doc/usd/12.vi/viapwh/../../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/ vitut; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -t -ms -o1- / usr/src/share/doc/usd/12.vi/viapwh/../../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/v itut/vi.apwh.ms) | gzip -cn > viapwh.ascii.gz troff: fatal error: can't find macro file safer ===> share/doc/usd/12.vi/summary touch _stamp.extraobjs (cd /usr/src/share/doc/usd/12.vi/summary/../../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc /vitut; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -t -ms -o1- /usr/src/share/doc/usd/12.vi/summary/../../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc /vitut/vi.summary) | gzip -cn > summary.ascii.gz troff: fatal error: can't find macro file safer ===> share/doc/usd/13.viref sed -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ ]*\)\(vi.ref\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/ docs/USD.doc/vi.ref /\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ ]*\)\(ex.cmd.roff\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib /nvi/docs/USD.doc/v i.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ ]*\)\(ref.so\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/ docs/USD.do c/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ ]*\)\(set.opt.roff\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contri b/nvi/docs/ USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ ]*\)\(vi.cmd.roff\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib /nv i/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e 's:^\.so index.so$::' /usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.r ef/vi.ref | groff -mtty-char -Tascii -t -s -me -o1- > /dev/null troff: fatal error: can't find macro file safer *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. # exit Thank you all in advanced.. Lester A. Mesa lmesa@prontel.com Prontel Corporation Internet Division http://www.prontel.com Toll Free: 1-800-920-0920 Ext 206 Outside US: 1+ (305) 406-9055 Ext 206 Fax Number: 1+ (305) 406-9056 " Prontel Complete Internet Solutions " To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 11:19:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from silver.komanda.com.ua (silver.komanda.com.ua [212.68.162.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A4B37C628 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:19:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sysop@silver.komanda.com.ua) Received: (from root@localhost) by silver.komanda.com.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA09644 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 21:22:16 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sysop) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 21:22:15 +0200 From: Charlie & To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Version of stable? Message-ID: <20000313212215.A9620@silver.komanda.com.ua> References: <20000313200537.A9063@silver.komanda.com.ua> <20000313105349.Z14279@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000313105349.Z14279@fw.wintelcom.net>; from bright@wintelcom.net on Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 10:53:49AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I wonder what is the version of 3 branch stable? > > If I put RELENG_3 into cvsup-stable file will I get > > 3.4-stable or 3.2-stable? > You will get 3-stable (post 3.4), the 3.x versions of FreeBSD are > snapshots of the 3-stable development line. Does it mean 3.2 and 3.3 stable transfered into just 3.x(3.4)stable? And RELENG_3_2 will be wrong notation? Thanks for help, Alfred. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 11:47:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC3437BB99 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:47:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA29188; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:19:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:19:36 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Charlie & Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Version of stable? Message-ID: <20000313121936.B14279@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20000313200537.A9063@silver.komanda.com.ua> <20000313105349.Z14279@fw.wintelcom.net> <20000313212215.A9620@silver.komanda.com.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000313212215.A9620@silver.komanda.com.ua>; from root@silver.komanda.com.ua on Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 09:22:15PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Charlie & [000313 12:06] wrote: > > > I wonder what is the version of 3 branch stable? > > > If I put RELENG_3 into cvsup-stable file will I get > > > 3.4-stable or 3.2-stable? > > > You will get 3-stable (post 3.4), the 3.x versions of FreeBSD are > > snapshots of the 3-stable development line. > > Does it mean 3.2 and 3.3 stable transfered into just 3.x(3.4)stable? > And RELENG_3_2 will be wrong notation? > > Thanks for help, Alfred. Please use an account other than root to email the lists and be sure to cc the person you're replying to otherwise, it makes it a bit difficult to reply to you. (at least for me) Using RELENG_3_2 won't work as it doesn't exist, you should use RELENG_3, which will bring you to 3.4+patches. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 11:53:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (mass.cdrom.com [204.216.28.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD53637BDCB; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:53:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01018; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:55:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200003131955.LAA01018@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Brad Knowles Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List , John Baldwin Subject: Re: Weirdest crash I ever saw... In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:22:14 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:55:04 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > At 12:37 PM +0100 2000/3/13, Brad Knowles wrote: > > > I've managed to get the thing to boot okay, so long as the > > Comparex D1400 (Hitachi DF400) external RAID array is not > > attached to the pair of Adaptec 2940U2W host adaptors in the > > machine. I'm going to try re-attaching it and see if the > > problem comes back, and if so, I'm going to try attaching it > > to just one adaptor. > > Don't ask me why or how, but now the machine appears to come up > okay with the Comparex D1400/Hitachi DF400 attached to both Adaptec > 2940U2W controllers. That's about consistent with what you were seeing before, which fell into the "PC crap gets confused easily" category. > But now I'm back to the point where it leaks 240VAC, which makes > it rather unpleasant to do things like it was supposedly designed to > do, such as plugging additional hosts in while the drive array is > powered on and online, although the new host(s) presumably would be > turned off. Gotta love all that double-insulated stuff. 8( -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 12:20:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58D337B66C for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:20:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from daniel.sobral (root@p11-dn01kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [211.0.245.12]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) with ESMTP id FAA01727; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 05:20:20 +0900 (JST) Received: (from dcs@localhost) by daniel.sobral (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA13456; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 05:18:57 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from dcs) From: "Daniel C. Sobral" Message-Id: <200003132018.FAA13456@daniel.sobral> Subject: Re: Version of stable? In-Reply-To: <20000313200537.A9063@silver.komanda.com.ua> from "Charlie &" at "Mar 13, 2000 08:05:37 pm" To: "Charlie &" Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 05:18:56 +0900 (JST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Disclaimer: Klaatu Barada Nikto! X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Unheedful of thy elder's warnings, Charlie & wrote: > > I wonder what is the version of 3 branch stable? > If I put RELENG_3 into cvsup-stable file will I get > 3.4-stable or 3.2-stable? There isn't such a thing as "3.4-stable & 3.2-stable". What exists is 3.x-stable, and that's RELENG_3. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org The whole world is about three drinks behind. -- Humphrey Bogart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 12:42:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server1.huntsvilleal.com (server1.huntsvilleal.com [207.13.224.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E292737B66C; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:42:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@hiwaay.net) Received: from barricuda.bsd.nws.net (kris.huntsvilleal.com [207.13.224.46]) by server1.huntsvilleal.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28410; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:22:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by barricuda.bsd.nws.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29598; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:41:39 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kris@hiwaay.net) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:41:39 -0600 (CST) From: Kris Kirby To: Mike Smith Cc: Brad Knowles , FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List , John Baldwin Subject: Re: Weirdest crash I ever saw... In-Reply-To: <200003131955.LAA01018@mass.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > But now I'm back to the point where it leaks 240VAC, which makes > > it rather unpleasant to do things like it was supposedly designed to > > do, such as plugging additional hosts in while the drive array is > > powered on and online, although the new host(s) presumably would be > > turned off. > > Gotta love all that double-insulated stuff. 8( Two words: Isolation Transformer. ---- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR | TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. | ------------------------------------------------------- "God gave them the ability to reproduce... ... Science gave us the hope they won't." -KBK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 13: 3:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB2A37B674; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:03:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA31350; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:03:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:03:17 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Dillon To: Kris Kirby Cc: Mike Smith , Brad Knowles , FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List , John Baldwin Subject: Re: Weirdest crash I ever saw... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Kris Kirby wrote: > > > But now I'm back to the point where it leaks 240VAC, which makes > > > it rather unpleasant to do things like it was supposedly designed to > > > do, such as plugging additional hosts in while the drive array is > > > powered on and online, although the new host(s) presumably would be > > > turned off. > > > > Gotta love all that double-insulated stuff. 8( > > Two words: Isolation Transformer. Or better yet, find the leak and fix it. This can also be the sign of some very poor building ground wiring, and you're actually seeing the 240V leak from not your own equipment, but some damn machine down the hall sharing the same ground. :-( -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For Intel x86 and Alpha architectures. ( http://www.freebsd.org ) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 13: 3:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F9237B665; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:03:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.24.123] (dialup729.brussels.skynet.be [195.238.21.217]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C44FBCE76; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 22:03:36 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 22:02:48 +0100 To: Kris Kirby , Mike Smith From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Weirdest crash I ever saw... Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List , John Baldwin Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 2:41 PM -0600 2000/3/13, Kris Kirby wrote: > Two words: Isolation Transformer. Got any URLs for these products? I'd like to learn more about them. Thanks! -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 13: 9: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net (altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net [193.67.237.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FE4B37B665 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:08:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from j.baggen@stl-group.com) Received: from STLSYS6 by altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net via 1Cust263.tnt1.rtm1.nl.uu.net [212.136.253.9] with SMTP for id WAA12014 (8.8.8/3.41); Mon, 13 Mar 2000 22:07:53 +0100 (MET) From: "Jan J.W.H. Baggen" To: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 22:09:09 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ________________________________________________ Jan J.W.H. Baggen Starline STL Group Internet http://www.stl-group.com http://www.stl-group.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 13:14:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.bna.bellsouth.net (mail2.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F1C137BD6F for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:14:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from discover.siteplus.net (host-216-78-82-123.cha.bellsouth.net [216.78.82.123]) by mail2.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id QAA25958 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:07:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:14:45 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Weeks To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 3.2 > 3.4 make crash Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a SMP 400mhz PII box running 3.2-stable. I cvsuped the files on Saturday and did a make buildworld. Here is where it died an untimely death. ===> share/doc/usd/13.viref sed -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ \ ]*\)\(vi.ref\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.vire f/../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ \ ]*\)\(ex.cmd.roff\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/d ocs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ \ ]*\)\(ref.so\)$:\1/usr/s rc/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ ' s:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ \ ]*\)\(set.opt.roff\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/ ../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ \ ]*\)\(vi.cmd.roff\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/d ocs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e 's:^\.so index.so$::' /usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref /../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/vi.ref | groff -mtty-char -Tascii -t -s -me -o1- > /dev/null *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 I am not going to post the whole build dialog, but I trapped the errors and if you are interest you can view them at http://siteplus.com/error.txt Thanks in advance, Jim Weeks jim@siteplus.com http://siteplus.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 13:22:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server1.huntsvilleal.com (server1.huntsvilleal.com [207.13.224.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F65137BED3 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:22:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@hiwaay.net) Received: from barricuda.bsd.nws.net (kris.huntsvilleal.com [207.13.224.46]) by server1.huntsvilleal.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28942; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:03:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by barricuda.bsd.nws.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA30004; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:22:14 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kris@hiwaay.net) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:22:14 -0600 (CST) From: Kris Kirby To: Brad Knowles Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List Subject: Re: Weirdest crash I ever saw... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Brad Knowles wrote: > > Two words: Isolation Transformer. > > Got any URLs for these products? I'd like to learn more about them. > > Thanks! I do know that Sola makes some. Look toward the UPS vendors and power systems vendors. A good (heavy) quality sine-wave UPS will have an isolation transformer in it; I've seen large BEST units that did, and could be instructed to act as such. The terrible side effect of the isolation transformer (which in itself is a 1:1 transformer) is that it always draws it's rated power, whether under load or not. Adjust for the heat accordingly. --- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR | TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. | ------------------------------------------------------- "God gave them the ability to reproduce... ... Science gave us the hope they won't." -KBK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 13:44:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7272837B6B1 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:44:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 12Ucdb-00065c-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:44:31 -0500 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:44:31 -0500 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Version of stable? Message-ID: <20000313164431.F16460@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000313200537.A9063@silver.komanda.com.ua> <20000313105349.Z14279@fw.wintelcom.net> <20000313212215.A9620@silver.komanda.com.ua> <20000313121936.B14279@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000313121936.B14279@fw.wintelcom.net>; from bright@wintelcom.net on Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 12:19:36PM -0800 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alfred Perlstein probably said: > to cc the person you're replying to otherwise, it makes it > a bit difficult to reply to you. (at least for me) Erm, no. Some people (like me) do _not_ like being Cc:ed on list mail. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 14: 9:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.enteract.com (mail.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6C637B67B for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:09:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nasby@shell-1.enteract.com) Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (nasby@shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by mail.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA66702 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:09:32 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from nasby@shell-1.enteract.com) Received: (from nasby@localhost) by shell-1.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA66188 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:09:32 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from nasby) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:09:32 -0600 From: "Jim C. Nasby" To: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List Subject: Re: Weirdest crash I ever saw... Message-ID: <20000313160932.E40149@enteract.com> Reply-To: jim@nasby.net Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 X-Distributed: Join the Effort! http://www.distributed.net Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Speaking as a BSEE, the 240V 'leak' is either due to the building wiring or due to very poor design (or both). If possible, try plugging both the computer and the RAID array into the same outlet (I don't know if your in the US or not, so I don't know if your standard voltage is 120V or 240V). In any case, I would very strongly suggest you find the problem and fix it, as it could prove to be fatal. On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 03:03:17PM -0600, Chris Dillon wrote: > On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Kris Kirby wrote: > > > > > But now I'm back to the point where it leaks 240VAC, which makes > > > > it rather unpleasant to do things like it was supposedly designed to > > > > do, such as plugging additional hosts in while the drive array is > > > > powered on and online, although the new host(s) presumably would be > > > > turned off. > > > > > > Gotta love all that double-insulated stuff. 8( > > > > Two words: Isolation Transformer. > > Or better yet, find the leak and fix it. This can also be the sign of > some very poor building ground wiring, and you're actually seeing the > 240V leak from not your own equipment, but some damn machine down the > hall sharing the same ground. :-( > > > -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net > FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. > For Intel x86 and Alpha architectures. ( http://www.freebsd.org ) > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Jim C. Nasby (aka Decibel!) /^\ jim@nasby.net /___\ Freelance lighting designer and database developer / | \ Member: Triangle Fraternity, Sports Car Club of America /___|___\ Give your computer some brain-candy! www.distributed.net Team #1828 Get paid to surf!! http://www.enteract.com/~nasby/alladvantage.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 14:50:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id A1CC337B528; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:50:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE9A2E8148; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:50:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@hub.freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:50:50 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: Jim Weeks Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.2 > 3.4 make crash In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Jim Weeks wrote: > I have a SMP 400mhz PII box running 3.2-stable. I cvsuped the files on > Saturday and did a make buildworld. Here is where it died an untimel > death. Looks like asmodai broke groff :-) I'm sure he'll fix it soon.. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 15:50: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E2937B555 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:49:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.24.123] (dialup1204.brussels.skynet.be [194.78.232.180]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1EE1CB80; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 00:49:50 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20000313160932.E40149@enteract.com> References: <20000313160932.E40149@enteract.com> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 00:46:43 +0100 To: jim@nasby.net, FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Weirdest crash I ever saw... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 4:09 PM -0600 2000/3/13, Jim C. Nasby wrote: > Speaking as a BSEE, the 240V 'leak' is either due to the building wiring or > due to very poor design (or both). If possible, try plugging both >the computer > and the RAID array into the same outlet (I don't know if your in the US or > not, so I don't know if your standard voltage is 120V or 240V). I'm in Belgium, so standard is 240VAC @ 50Hz. > In any case, I would very strongly suggest you find the problem and fix it, > as it could prove to be fatal. Fatal to me, or fatal to the equipment? I've already had a number of unpleasant shocks, but so far nothing has been more than unpleasant. Interestingly, there was a small amount of leakage even when both systems were turned off and I touched both the case of the Comparex D1400 (Hitachi DF400) and a grounding pin on the same power strip that the drive array is plugged into, which I have to assume comes from the internal batteries in the array. If we're talking about fatal to the equipment, that's a much more serious issue. ;-) -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 16:56:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE54337B5B7 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:56:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <115313>; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:55:43 +1100 Content-return: prohibited From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: Weirdest crash I ever saw... In-reply-to: ; from kris@hiwaay.net on Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 08:24:52AM +1100 To: Kris Kirby Cc: blk@skynet.be, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <00Mar14.115543est.115313@border.alcanet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:55:42 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2000-Mar-14 08:24:52 +1100, Kris Kirby wrote: >On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Brad Knowles wrote: > >> > Two words: Isolation Transformer. Any decent electrical supply house should be able to sell you one. The larger elecronics components suppliers may also have them. (I suspect any names I give you won't be much use). >I do know that Sola makes some. Look toward the UPS vendors and power >systems vendors. ... > The terrible side effect of the >isolation transformer (which in itself is a 1:1 transformer) is that it >always draws it's rated power, whether under load or not. I've never seen any that did this. A normal isolation transformer is just an ordinary transformer with 1:1 turns ratio. The input current and power are proportional to the output current and power (plus a small magnetizing current). If you're talking about the older ferro-resonant constant-voltage transformers, they drew a constant _current_ and the input phase angle changed with load. They were also fairly inefficient (something like 10% of the rated power turned into heat). Note that ferro-resonant transformers have an output waveform close to a square-wave. They also current-limit at close to their rated output current - which means loads with large inrush currents will cause serious voltage droop. Finally, the output voltage is quite frequency sensitive - don't try to use a 50Hz unit at 60Hz or vice versa. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 18:11:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.enteract.com (mail.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B04EC37B6CB for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:11:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@nasby.net) Received: from nasby.net (sysnasby@2.nasby.dsl.enteract.com [216.80.51.18]) by mail.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA11164; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 20:10:40 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jim@nasby.net) Message-ID: <38CD9FA1.FCF32B57@nasby.net> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 20:10:41 -0600 From: "Jim C. Nasby" Organization: distributed.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-US,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Jeremy Cc: Kris Kirby , blk@skynet.be, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Weirdest crash I ever saw... References: <00Mar14.115543est.115313@border.alcanet.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter Jeremy wrote: > > Note that ferro-resonant transformers have an output waveform close to > a square-wave. They also current-limit at close to their rated output > current - which means loads with large inrush currents will cause > serious voltage droop. Finally, the output voltage is quite frequency > sensitive - don't try to use a 50Hz unit at 60Hz or vice versa. > Don't try to use any 60Hz 'machine' (to a EE, a transformer is often considered a 'machine') at 50Hz unless you know what you're doing. You have to derate the device for operation at the lower frequency. Generally speaking, you can go from 50Hz to 60Hz though. -- Jim C. Nasby (aka Decibel!) /^\ jim@nasby.net /___\ Freelance lighting designer and database developer / | \ Member: Triangle Fraternity, Sports Car Club of America /___|___\ Give your computer some brain candy! www.distributed.net Team #1828 Get paid to surf!! http://www.enteract.com/~nasby/alladvantage.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 18:15: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.enteract.com (mail.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9990837B689 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:15:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@nasby.net) Received: from nasby.net (sysnasby@2.nasby.dsl.enteract.com [216.80.51.18]) by mail.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA11780; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 20:15:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jim@nasby.net) Message-ID: <38CDA0A7.91067958@nasby.net> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 20:15:03 -0600 From: "Jim C. Nasby" Organization: distributed.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-US,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brad Knowles Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List Subject: Re: Weirdest crash I ever saw... References: <20000313160932.E40149@enteract.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brad Knowles wrote: > > At 4:09 PM -0600 2000/3/13, Jim C. Nasby wrote: > > > Speaking as a BSEE, the 240V 'leak' is either due to the building wiring or > > due to very poor design (or both). If possible, try plugging both > >the computer > > and the RAID array into the same outlet (I don't know if your in the US or > > not, so I don't know if your standard voltage is 120V or 240V). > > I'm in Belgium, so standard is 240VAC @ 50Hz. > > > In any case, I would very strongly suggest you find the problem and fix it, > > as it could prove to be fatal. > > Fatal to me, or fatal to the equipment? I've already had a Yes, and yes. > number of unpleasant shocks, but so far nothing has been more than > unpleasant. Interestingly, there was a small amount of leakage even What is currently (no pun intended) no more than unpleasant could easily turn lethal depending on what's going on. > when both systems were turned off and I touched both the case of the > Comparex D1400 (Hitachi DF400) and a grounding pin on the same power > strip that the drive array is plugged into, which I have to assume > comes from the internal batteries in the array. Batteries or no, you shouldn't have been able to feel anything that way. Sounds like there's something wrong with the equipment. I still wouldn't rule out the building wiring either. > If we're talking about fatal to the equipment, that's a much more > serious issue. ;-) > > -- > These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy > ====================================================================== > Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV > Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 > Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels > http://www.skynet.be || Belgium > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Jim C. Nasby (aka Decibel!) /^\ jim@nasby.net /___\ Freelance lighting designer and database developer / | \ Member: Triangle Fraternity, Sports Car Club of America /___|___\ Give your computer some brain candy! www.distributed.net Team #1828 Get paid to surf!! http://www.enteract.com/~nasby/alladvantage.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 19:34:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw-hk1.philips.com (gw-hk1.philips.com [202.130.151.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD5137B68F for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 19:34:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lawrence.hy.cheung@philips.com) Received: from smtprelay-hk1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-hk1.philips.com with ESMTP id LAA27609 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:34:46 +0800 (HKT) (envelope-from lawrence.hy.cheung@philips.com) Received: from smtprelay-asp1.philips.com(130.147.65.5) by gw-hk1.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma027607; Tue, 14 Mar 00 11:34:46 +0800 Received: from APLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (aplms01sv1.diamond.philips.com [130.147.79.213]) by smtprelay-hk1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id LAA20232 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:34:45 +0800 (HKT) Received: by APLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 4.0) with snapi via APAC id 0056920005172293; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:34:21 +0800 From: <"CN=Lawrence Cheung_2/OU=HKG/OU=COMP/O=PHILIPS@APAC"@unregistered.philips.com> To: Subject: Re: Version of stable? Message-ID: <0056920005172293000002L232*@MHS> Reply-To: <"CN=Lawrence Cheung_2/OU=HKG/OU=COMP/O=PHILIPS@APAC"@unregistered.philips.com> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:34:21 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="MEMO 03/14/00 11:34:14" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG AFAIK, 3.0-RELEASE (It is not a release in 3.x-STABLE branch!) RELENG_3 start (soon after 3.0-RELEASE) | | 3.0-STABLE | | 3.1-RC +-------3.1-RELEASE (The 1st release of 3.x-STABLE branch) | | 3.1-STABLE | | 3.2-RC +-------3.2-RELEASE | | 3.2-STABLE | | 3.3-RC +-------3.3-RELEASE=20 | | 3.3-STABLE | | 3.4-RC +-------3.4-RELEASE | | 3.4-STABLE =20 Hence, the tag RELENG_3 always points to the latest STABLE version. Regards, Lawrence H.Y. Cheung root@silver.komanda.com.ua@SMTP@FreeBSD.ORG on 03/14/2000 03:30:03 AM Sent by: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org@SMTP cc: =20 Subject: Re: Version of stable? > > I wonder what is the version of 3 branch stable? > > If I put RELENG_3 into cvsup-stable file will I get > > 3.4-stable or 3.2-stable? > You will get 3-stable (post 3.4), the 3.x versions of FreeBSD are > snapshots of the 3-stable development line. Does it mean 3.2 and 3.3 stable transfered into just 3.x(3.4)stable? And RELENG_3_2 will be wrong notation? Thanks for help, Alfred. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message = To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 19:36: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (mail.dohboys.com [208.26.253.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 353B137B6EA for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 19:36:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn3148.bossig.com [208.26.243.148]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.4.7) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 19:45:16 -0800 Message-ID: <38CDB3AE.7C7855CC@3-cities.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 19:36:14 -0800 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jim C. Nasby" Cc: Brad Knowles , FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List Subject: Re: Weirdest crash I ever saw... References: <20000313160932.E40149@enteract.com> <38CDA0A7.91067958@nasby.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jim C. Nasby" wrote: > > Brad Knowles wrote: > > > > At 4:09 PM -0600 2000/3/13, Jim C. Nasby wrote: > > > > > Speaking as a BSEE, the 240V 'leak' is either due to the building wiring or > > > due to very poor design (or both). If possible, try plugging both > > >the computer > > > and the RAID array into the same outlet (I don't know if your in the US or > > > not, so I don't know if your standard voltage is 120V or 240V). > > > > I'm in Belgium, so standard is 240VAC @ 50Hz. > > > > > In any case, I would very strongly suggest you find the problem and fix it, > > > as it could prove to be fatal. > > > > Fatal to me, or fatal to the equipment? I've already had a > Yes, and yes. > > > number of unpleasant shocks, but so far nothing has been more than > > unpleasant. Interestingly, there was a small amount of leakage even > What is currently (no pun intended) no more than unpleasant could easily > turn lethal depending on what's going on. > > > when both systems were turned off and I touched both the case of the > > Comparex D1400 (Hitachi DF400) and a grounding pin on the same power > > strip that the drive array is plugged into, which I have to assume > > comes from the internal batteries in the array. > Batteries or no, you shouldn't have been able to feel anything that way. > Sounds like there's something wrong with the equipment. I still wouldn't > rule out the building wiring either. It is also possible that what ever has messed up the ground could also be causing cause the crash. Kent > > > If we're talking about fatal to the equipment, that's a much more > > serious issue. ;-) > > > > -- > > These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy > > ====================================================================== > > Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV > > Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 > > Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels > > http://www.skynet.be || Belgium > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > Jim C. Nasby (aka Decibel!) /^\ > jim@nasby.net /___\ > Freelance lighting designer and database developer / | \ > Member: Triangle Fraternity, Sports Car Club of America /___|___\ > > Give your computer some brain candy! www.distributed.net Team #1828 > Get paid to surf!! http://www.enteract.com/~nasby/alladvantage.html > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 20:28:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from renoir.op.net (renoir.op.net [207.29.195.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD31A37B58D for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 20:28:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfrazier@op.net) Received: from op.net (d-phletc1-25.ppp.op.net [209.152.198.101]) by renoir.op.net (o1/$Revision: 1.18 $) with ESMTP id XAA26991 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:28:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38CDBF75.3FAE857@op.net> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:26:29 -0500 From: Daniel Frazier X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: make installworld fails... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, this is my first post to the stable mailing list, but I have been lurking for some time now. I cvsupped last night. make buildworld went fine, then I did the following to update /etc... cp -Rp /etc /etc.old mkdir /var/tmp/root cd /usr/src/etc make DESTDIR=/var/tmp/root distrib-dirs distribution cd /var/tmp/root find -d . -type d | /usr/bin/perl -lne \ 'opendir(D,$_);@f=readdir(D);rmdir if $#f == 1;closedir(D);' ...then I compared /etc with /var/tmp/root/etc, and made the appropriate changes. then I did... cp -Rp /var/tmp/root/etc/ /etc So far, so good. Next I did... cd /usr/src make installworld ...which bombed within minutes. This is how it exited... install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 libcom_err.a /usr/lib install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 libcom_err_p.a /usr/lib install: libcom_err_p.a: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 ...and so on. The system was a fresh 3.3-RELEASE install from the cd. If I have left out any info that may help please let me know. As of this point I am clueless, any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Daniel Frazier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 20:49:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from primex.prontel.net (primex.prontel.net [216.242.25.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B3E37B5A8 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 20:49:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from netadmin@primex.prontel.net) Received: from workstation9 (dsl-216-227-86-169.telocity.com [216.227.86.169]) by primex.prontel.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA32820 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:57:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from netadmin@primex.prontel.net) Message-ID: <011101bf8d71$3bbfa720$a956e3d8@workstation9> From: "Lester A. mesa" To: Subject: Error on make buildworld Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:52:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I keep getting this error while trying to make buildworld to 3.X-STABLE... Any has any idea? This is from a fresh cvsup ===> share/doc/usd/12.vi/summary touch _stamp.extraobjs (cd /usr/src/share/doc/usd/12.vi/summary/../../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc /vitut; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -t -ms -o1- /usr/src/share/doc/usd/12.vi/summary/../../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc /vitut/vi.summary) | gzip -cn > summary.ascii.gz troff: fatal error: can't find macro file safer ===> share/doc/usd/13.viref sed -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ ]*\)\(vi.ref\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/ docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ ]*\)\(ex.cmd.roff\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib /nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ ]*\)\(ref.so\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/ docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ ]*\)\(set.opt.roff\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contri b/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ ]*\)\(vi.cmd.roff\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib /nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e 's:^\.so index.so$::' /usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/ vi.ref | groff -mtty-char -Tascii -t -s -me -o1- > /dev/null troff: fatal error: can't find macro file safer *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. sysop1# To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 13 23:55:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw-hk1.philips.com (gw-hk1.philips.com [202.130.151.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FEBE37B5DE for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:55:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lawrence.hy.cheung@philips.com) Received: from smtprelay-hk1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-hk1.philips.com with ESMTP id PAA00582; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:55:30 +0800 (HKT) (envelope-from lawrence.hy.cheung@philips.com) From: lawrence.hy.cheung@philips.com Received: from smtprelay-asp1.philips.com(130.147.65.5) by gw-hk1.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma000578; Tue, 14 Mar 00 15:55:30 +0800 Received: from APLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (aplms01sv1.diamond.philips.com [130.147.79.213]) by smtprelay-hk1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id PAA26580; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:55:29 +0800 (HKT) Received: by APLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 4.0) with snapi via APAC id 0056920005177383; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:55:05 +0800 To: Cc: Subject: Re: make installworld fails... Message-ID: <0056920005177383000002L232*@MHS> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:55:05 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="MEMO 03/14/00 15:55:02" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, It is because of having difference in the file '/etc/make.conf'. After you copy a new set of "/etc/*.*" files from /var/tmp/root/etc/,=20 A fresh "/etc/make.conf" with different options overwrite the old one. = It do led to failure of installworld. You only need to edit "/etc/make.conf" with the same configuration as b= efore, the installworld process will run smoothly again. Sorry for my poor english, I am chinese. Regards, Lawrence H.Y. Cheung P.S. Remember do not overwrite some important file in /etc during upgra= de, such as 'password' file(s), /etc/fstab ,...etc. dfrazier@Op.Net@SMTP@FreeBSD.ORG on 03/14/2000 12:31:27 PM Sent by: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG@SMTP cc: =20 Subject: make installworld fails... Classification: Restricted Hello all, this is my first post to the stable mailing list, but I have= been lurking for some time now. I cvsupped last night. make buildworl= d went fine, then I did the following to update /etc... cp -Rp /etc /etc.old mkdir /var/tmp/root cd /usr/src/etc make DESTDIR=3D/var/tmp/root distrib-dirs distribution cd /var/tmp/root find -d . -type d | /usr/bin/perl -lne \ 'opendir(D,$_);@f=3Dreaddir(D);rmdir if $#f =3D=3D 1;closedir(D);' ...then I compared /etc with /var/tmp/root/etc, and made the appropriat= e changes. then I did... cp -Rp /var/tmp/root/etc/ /etc So far, so good. Next I did... cd /usr/src make installworld ...which bombed within minutes. This is how it exited... install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 libcom_err.a /usr/lib install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 libcom_err_p.a /usr/lib install: libcom_err_p.a: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 ...and so on. The system was a fresh 3.3-RELEASE install from the cd. If I have left out any info that may help please let me know. As of this point I am clueless, any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks= in advance. Daniel Frazier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message = To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 14 0:44:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zipcode.corp.home.net (zipcode.corp.home.net [24.0.26.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1792C37B5DF for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 00:44:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from manek@ecst.csuchico.edu) Received: from after (shiva-user1.corp.home.net [24.0.8.131]) by zipcode.corp.home.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA09462; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 00:44:34 -0800 (PST) From: "Sameer R. Manek" To: <"CN=Lawrence Cheung_2/OU=HKG/OU=COMP/O=PHILIPS@APAC"@unregistered.philips.com>, Subject: RE: Version of stable? Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 00:45:09 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <0056920005172293000002L232*@MHS> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > "CN=Lawrence Cheung_ > /OU=HKG/OU=COMP/O=PHILIPS@APAC"@unregistered.philips.com Looks like you've got a broken ldap server or misconfigured ldap/sendmail setup. > AFAIK, > 3.0-RELEASE (It is not a release in 3.x-STABLE branch!) Also the 3.x branch will continue till about 3.6 or 3.7 i forget what the last scheduled timeline was terminated at. And 4.x should become the main supported stable branch in a few months. As it is, a good portion of the developers are focusing on the -current branch. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 14 7: 9:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptldpop3.ptld.uswest.net (ptldpop3.ptld.uswest.net [198.36.160.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C9D637B8EA for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:09:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bwoods2@uswest.net) Received: (qmail 53788 invoked by alias); 14 Mar 2000 15:08:29 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org@fixme Received: (qmail 53767 invoked by uid 0); 14 Mar 2000 15:08:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.cybcon.com) (63.163.56.34) by pop.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 14 Mar 2000 15:08:28 -0000 Content-Length: 437 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:06:21 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: bwoods2@uswest.net From: William Woods To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RELENG_4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Do I understand right that the RELENG_4 tag is now the stable tag, ie; FreeBSD 4-stable? ---------------------------------- E-Mail: bwoods2@uswest.net Date: 14-Mar-00 Time: 07:05:30l ---------------------------------- NOTICE TO BULK E-MAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, and all unsolicited commercial e-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 14 7:23:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axl.ops.uunet.co.za (axl.ops.uunet.co.za [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4210A37B784 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:23:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.ops.uunet.co.za) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.ops.uunet.co.za) by axl.ops.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12UtAI-0000Yw-00; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:23:22 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: bwoods2@uswest.net Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:06:21 PST." Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:23:21 +0200 Message-ID: <2164.953047401@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:06:21 PST, William Woods wrote: > Do I understand right that the RELENG_4 tag is now the stable tag, ie; > FreeBSD 4-stable? Yes. Mind you, keep in mind that it's STABLE a few footsteps beyond a point naught release. :-) Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 14 8:32: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lucifer.bart.nl (lucifer.bart.nl [194.158.168.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC9A37B63A for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:31:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@lucifer.bart.nl) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by lucifer.bart.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA70823; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:31:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:31:54 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven To: Jay Nelson Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Groff 1.15 Message-ID: <20000314173154.F68549@lucifer.bart.nl> References: <20000309212529.A6765@lucifer.bart.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from noslenj@swbell.net on Sun, Mar 12, 2000 at 04:31:41PM -0600 Organisation: bART Internet Services B.V. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Jay, -On [20000312 23:35], Jay Nelson (noslenj@swbell.net) wrote: >This isn't a barn-burner, but the html addition didn't build or >install. The directory was created in /usr/share/groff_font, but >nothing was installed under /usr/obj and nothing made it to >/usr/share/groff_font. > >Source was supped Friday night, about 2PM UTC. Maybe I was too soon. Nah, I just hadn't added the rest because of my local errors getting it to work. I was forgetting one step which make world does, make obj, and then I could easily test the rest and commit it. Let me know if I forget anything else in my MFC. Thanks for prodding me though, kind regards, -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator VIA NET.WORKS The Netherlands BSD: Technical excellence at its best http://www.bart.nl Embrace Love, be godlike... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 14 9:17:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server.hmm.za.net (admin.bsdonline.org [196.28.82.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7CF37B99C for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:17:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david@campsbay.za.net) Received: from DAVID (david [192.168.1.2]) by server.hmm.za.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA01027 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:18:21 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from david@campsbay.za.net) Message-ID: <002501bf8dd9$49788cc0$0201a8c0@DAVID> From: "David" To: Subject: stable problem Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:18:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Im cvsuppign to RELENG_4 now and it cvsups fine... however after i do make clean i do a make depend in /usr/src and i get the following errors.. Please help me out /usr/include/ncurses.h:432: warning: `mvinch' redefined /usr/include/curses.h:246: warning: this is the location of the previous definition /usr/include/ncurses.h:433: warning: `mvdelch' redefined /usr/include/curses.h:243: warning: this is the location of the previous definition /usr/include/ncurses.h:435: warning: `mvinsch' redefined /usr/include/curses.h:247: warning: this is the location of the previous definition /usr/src/games/mille/save.c:55: warning: `_tty' redefined /usr/include/curses.h:111: warning: this is the location of the previous definition In file included from /usr/src/games/mille/types.c:42: /usr/src/games/mille/mille.h:162: warning: `erasechar' redefined /usr/include/curses.h:99: warning: this is the location of the previous definition /usr/src/games/mille/mille.h:163: warning: `killchar' redefined /usr/include/curses.h:100: warning: this is the location of the previous definition In file included from /usr/src/games/mille/varpush.c:43: /usr/src/games/mille/mille.h:162: warning: `erasechar' redefined /usr/include/curses.h:99: warning: this is the location of the previous definition /usr/src/games/mille/mille.h:163: warning: `killchar' redefined /usr/include/curses.h:100: warning: this is the location of the previous definition mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. su-2.03# _________________________ David van Rensburg - david@van.web.za aka Van FreeBSD: The Power to Serve __ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 14 10:32:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B5C37B711 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:32:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA84317; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:32:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) From: Michael Lucas Message-Id: <200003141832.NAA84317@blackhelicopters.org> Subject: Re: RELENG_4 In-Reply-To: <2164.953047401@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> from Sheldon Hearn at "Mar 14, 2000 5:23:21 pm" To: sheldonh@uunet.co.za (Sheldon Hearn) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:32:13 -0500 (EST) Cc: bwoods2@uswest.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:06:21 PST, William Woods wrote: > > > Do I understand right that the RELENG_4 tag is now the stable tag, ie; > > FreeBSD 4-stable? > > Yes. Mind you, keep in mind that it's STABLE a few footsteps beyond a > point naught release. :-) > > Ciao, > Sheldon. Also, RELENG-3 is still there. I just supped it yesterday. IMHO, I'd treat this just like the upgrade from 2.x.2 to 3.0; test it on a non-production system first, be prepared for weird & wacky changes, and have a backup plan in case your system becomes hosed. ==ml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 14 10:45: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from itsdsv1.enc.edu (fw1.enc.edu [63.85.52.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8896E37B7E2 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:44:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owensc@enc.edu) Received: from enc.edu (r2s9.r.its.enc.edu [10.100.0.29]) by itsdsv1.enc.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA07669; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:07:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38CD05C2.7159E85@enc.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:14:10 -0500 From: "Charles N. Owens" Organization: Eastern Nazarene College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken Bolingbroke , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Peter Radcliffe Subject: Re: disk cloning (& a bit of picobsd) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm responding to both topics... Ken Bolingbroke wrote: > Redirected from -stable to -questions. > > On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, 'Peter Radcliffe' wrote: > > > Disk cloning with dd is evil. Don't Do That. > > > > My recommendation is to partition the disk as you desire, newfs and mount > > the partitions then use > > cd /new/partition; dump 0f - /original/partition | restore rf - > > Is there a particular reason you say dd is evil for disk cloning? I admin I also am curious as to why use of dd in this way is bad. I've read a number of journal articles that advocate its use in just this way (another source, O'Reilly's new "Unix Backup & Recovery", by W Curtis Preston talks about its flexibility for certain backup/recovery applications). The key thing is to _really_ understand the strengths and weaknesses of whatever tool you're considering... and to do rigorous testing.... > a lab full of machines with various OS flavors. The PCs especially serve > multiple duty running FreeBSD, Linux, or NT. When the > machines get trashed, or I have a sudden need for extra machines of a > particular configuration, it would be nice to have a easy way to clone the > disks and restore things. > > As it happens, I do have access to a hardware disk cloner, which is way > cool. But that means I have to A) maintain a master disk for each > configuration, and B) take the drives out of each machine and plug them > into the disk cloner. Both of these are somewhat undesirable. > > So I've been envisioning something where I can maintain compressed master > copies of each configuration on a humonguous disk on the lab server, then > when I want to restore/change a specific machine, I insert a boot floppy > that reads the image off the server and writes it to disk. Bingo, a fresh > new machine, ready to use! This has been done... using FreeBSD as the image server, even. The purpose was to allow a printer company (Lexmark) to efficiently maintain a lab of Win9x systems for print driver testing. See: http://www.usenix.org/publications/library/proceedings/lisa97/10.barnett.html > My initial tests with 'dd if=/dev/rwd1 bs=32k | gzip -9 > /bigslice/fbsd.dsk' then a corresponding 'gzcat /bigslice/fbsd.dsk | dd > of=/dev/rwd1 bs=32k' look promising. And best of all, it's OS-neutral. I > don't have to worry about how to create NT partitions and write to NTFS or > any of that crap. Just clone the whole disk and be done with it. > > So is this bad, evil even? Hah!!! I'd not thought about doing this for my NT servers! Very good! To ensure optimum compression it will in many cases help to initially to dd /dev/zero onto the entire disk before installing the OS onto it. That way when you create the dd image as many of the disk sectors as possible are blank. I have a bunch of NT servers with identical hardware and OS configuration... it would be nice to be able to have _one_ image for all servers... one has to worry about about mucking with the NT SID stuff, which isn't trivial. > And back to that thing about making a boot floppy...is it just me, or does > 3.4-STABLE's source code not build a picobsd 'net' boot floppy? I make > the floppy image, write it to floppy, then boot up on it and the boot > loader craps out with errors I don't recall at the moment. Repeatedly > banging my head on it didn't help a whole lot, altho I noticed that midway > through my attempts, CVSup brought in new stuff that changed the whole > thing somewhat dramatically. I sorta thought -STABLE would be, well, > stable, but doesn't seem to be the case for picobsd... No... not your imagination. (Grrrr) It worked fine back in August but some some stuff has been more recently MFC'd but not properly integrated. Two things, mainly, are broken: * Kernel config files won't build (they're not up to date with the rest of the tree. Bringing in the stock GENERIC config file and tweaking does the trick) * As you point out, the loader stuff doesn't fly. Greg Lehey, I think, pointed out on the -embedded list that you can get around this by removing all files from the floppy's /boot directory except loader. Then create a new loader.rc file with these contents: load kernel load -t mfs_root fs.PICOBSD I have a little script that I run after I build a picobsd image that does this automatically. Works, but, as you said, it would be nice if everything functioned smoothly out of the box (but, as someone may rightly point out, we're free to submit diffs to fix the problem). Here's the silly script... #!/bin/sh echo Okay... now we\'ll toast the loader magic with the echo dumb-but-works stuff... \(Hit ENTER if you\'re sure\) read foo vnconfig -u /dev/rvn0 >/dev/null 2>&1 vnconfig -c /dev/rvn0 picobsd.bin mount /dev/vn0c /mnt rm -r /mnt/boot/* # "bootstuff" contains just loader and loader.rc # cp bootstuff/* /mnt/boot umount /mnt vnconfig -u /dev/rvn0 >/dev/null 2>&1 echo echo Done... picobsd.bin has been toasted. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles N. Owens Email: owensc@enc.edu http://www.enc.edu/~owensc Network & Systems Administrator Information Technology Services "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's Eastern Nazarene College best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 14 10:45: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from itsdsv1.enc.edu (fw1.enc.edu [63.85.52.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B688337B7FA for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:45:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owensc@enc.edu) Received: from enc.edu (r2s9.r.its.enc.edu [10.100.0.29]) by itsdsv1.enc.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA27125; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:44:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38C90BB4.3535B7AE@enc.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:50:28 -0500 From: "Charles N. Owens" Organization: Eastern Nazarene College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dayton+freebsd-stable@overx.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Mike Squires , kingsled@enc.edu Subject: Re: samba 2.0.6 crashing -stable References: <868zzr6c15.fsf@polo.overx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Soren Dayton wrote: > Hi, > I've been having a recurring problem with samba on my freebsd > machines. It began when I was running 3.2, and it appears to still be > around with -stable. (and samba 2.0.3, and now 2.0.6) > Basically, when copying large files, the FreeBSD file server appears > to lose all of its network connectivity. It cannot be pinged, etc. > You also cannot log in as root because it hangs after you type in > `root' on console. (which might be concistent with all networking > failing. I think, but have not verified this, that anything that does > not use NIS or some such thing will continue to work. Some questions: Is root a local or NIS user? How long does this connectivity loss last? Does it go away by itself or do you have to force it somehow (e.g. reset)? Where is the NIS server (ypserv) that you're binding to in this setup? On the same box or on a different box? I have a 3.2-stable box (PII-400, 128MB RAM) currently running samba 2.0.5 and I'm wondering if I'm seeing the same thing. When trying to access files via samba I'll encounter 30+ second delays for no apparent reason. I've not noticed that all net traffic stops but I'm going start looking. The box is running as a plain vanilla NIS client. You've got me wondering about this though... I think I'll try making it a slave NIS server and then binding the client locally. Are you thinking that some kind of subtle (or not so subtle) samba problem is somehow jamming the network interface... causing ypbind to cough... then while it is trying to sort things out (rebinding perhaps) samba is hung waiting for any pending user database lookups to complete? If this is what you're thinking then we have at least two paths two pursue: * Find root cause * Optimize NIS implementation to minimize effects of problem (perhaps by making client a slave server to keep the client binding and lookup traffic local) As far as the root cause is concerned I've got less to say. Interestingly enough, I _also_ am using a Intel Pro 10/100 nic ! That makes three of us, doesn't it? Following Mike Squires' lead, here's my fxp0 stats (from netstat -i) Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll fxp0 1500 00.a0.c9.d6.54.7d 64352010 19 88144552 0 0 Similar pattern as far as errors go. This may be completely meaningless, though. I think some of the discussion between you two wasn't cc:'d to this list, so you may have covered this... but do you suspect the problem is somehow related to the nic? I'll let you know what happens after I make the samba server a NIS slave server. Thanks, Charles -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles N. Owens Email: owensc@enc.edu http://www.enc.edu/~owensc Network & Systems Administrator Information Technology Services "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's Eastern Nazarene College best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 14 11: 0:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from xxx.video-collage.com (xxx.video-collage.com [209.122.149.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB1837B7F3 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:00:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mi@video-collage.com) X-Relay-IP: ‚  Received: from dufus.video-collage.com (dufus [10.222.222.77]) by xxx.video-collage.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA25961; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:57:42 -0500 (EST) From: Mikhail Teterin Received: (from mi@localhost) by dufus.video-collage.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA38785; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:57:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mi@xxx) Message-Id: <200003141857.NAA38785@dufus.video-collage.com> Subject: Re: disk cloning In-Reply-To: <38CD05C2.7159E85@enc.edu> from "Charles N. Owens" at "Mar 13, 2000 10:14:10 am" To: "Charles N. Owens" Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:57:32 -0500 (EST) Cc: hacker@bolingbroke.com, pir@pir.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Disk cloning with dd is evil. Don't Do That. > > Is there a particular reason you say dd is evil for disk cloning? > > I also am curious as to why use of dd in this way is bad. By re-creating the filesystem with restore or tar -x you allow the OS to rearrange the files the way it wants. If you use dd, you will get the exact copy of the old filesystem, which, most likely, accumulated over time, and is not optimal. For example, if a filesystem functions better if the files lay on the disk in single sequences, use of tar or dump/restore will let the OS "defragment". -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 14 11:11:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vinyl.sentex.ca (vinyl.sentex.ca [209.112.4.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479DE37B5C9 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:11:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.ca) Received: from simoeon (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by vinyl.sentex.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA68735 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:11:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.ca) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000314140857.02057da0@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:08:57 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: RELENG_4 In-Reply-To: <200003141832.NAA84317@blackhelicopters.org> References: <2164.953047401@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 01:32 PM 3/14/00 -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: >Also, RELENG-3 is still there. I just supped it yesterday. > >IMHO, I'd treat this just like the upgrade from 2.x.2 to 3.0; test it >on a non-production system first, be prepared for weird & wacky >changes, and have a backup plan in case your system becomes hosed. Speaking of RELENG_3, are there any plans to add an option to disable AIO ? Alfred P mentioned something about possibly doing so as currently its a nasty local DoS. ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 14 13: 8:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail-out.visi.com (kauket.visi.com [209.98.98.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7889537B7EC for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:08:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sdk@visi.com) Received: from isis.visi.com (isis.visi.com [209.98.98.8]) by mail-out.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132C936D5; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:08:16 -0600 (CST) Received: (from sdk@localhost) by isis.visi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21961; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:08:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:08:15 -0600 From: Stephen To: "Charles N. Owens" Cc: Ken Bolingbroke , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Peter Radcliffe Subject: Re: disk cloning (& a bit of picobsd) Message-ID: <20000314150815.A20664@visi.com> References: <38CD05C2.7159E85@enc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.1i In-Reply-To: <38CD05C2.7159E85@enc.edu>; from Charles N. Owens on Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 10:14:10AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 10:14:10AM -0500, Charles N. Owens wrote: > > I also am curious as to why use of dd in this way is bad. I've read a number > of journal articles that advocate its use in just this way (another source, > O'Reilly's new "Unix Backup & Recovery", by W Curtis Preston talks about its > flexibility for certain backup/recovery applications). The key thing is to > _really_ understand the strengths and weaknesses of whatever tool you're > considering... and to do rigorous testing.... > I'm not a ufs expert, but I had thought the downside to using dd is that it copies the bad block map from source to target disk, rendering good disk space unusable. Also, bad blocks on the target disk would never be mapped out during the usual newfs. In my opinion, if the machine is not dual booting an automated FreeBSD install with pre and post install scripts similar to Solaris jumpstart would be ideal. sk -- sdk@yuck.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 14 13:20:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (mass.cdrom.com [204.216.28.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE9B37B7FB for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:20:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02794; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:22:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200003142122.NAA02794@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Stephen Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: disk cloning (& a bit of picobsd) In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:08:15 CST." <20000314150815.A20664@visi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:22:19 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 10:14:10AM -0500, Charles N. Owens wrote: > > > > I also am curious as to why use of dd in this way is bad. I've read a number > > of journal articles that advocate its use in just this way (another source, > > O'Reilly's new "Unix Backup & Recovery", by W Curtis Preston talks about its > > flexibility for certain backup/recovery applications). The key thing is to > > _really_ understand the strengths and weaknesses of whatever tool you're > > considering... and to do rigorous testing.... > > > > I'm not a ufs expert, but I had thought the downside to using dd is that it > copies the bad block map from source to target disk, rendering good disk > space unusable. Also, bad blocks on the target disk would never be mapped > out during the usual newfs. Newfs never mapped out bad blocks, and we don't support bad144 anymore, so these are all irrelevant. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 14 13:37:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A7037B7FB; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:37:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA13818; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:37:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:37:35 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: David Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: stable problem In-Reply-To: <002501bf8dd9$49788cc0$0201a8c0@DAVID> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, David wrote: > Im cvsuppign to RELENG_4 now and it cvsups fine... > however after i do make clean i do a make depend in /usr/src and i get the > following errors.. > Please help me out Why, pray tell, are you not doing 'make world'? Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 14 15:13: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tungsten.btinternet.com (tungsten.btinternet.com [194.73.73.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37BA037B877 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:13:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from [62.6.90.170] (helo=parish.my.domain) by ruthenium with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12UxSd-0006oe-00; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:58:36 +0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01301; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 18:37:14 GMT (envelope-from mark) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 18:37:14 +0000 From: Mark Ovens To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: bwoods2@uswest.net, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_4 Message-ID: <20000314183713.C239@parish> References: <2164.953047401@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <2164.953047401@axl.ops.uunet.co.za>; from sheldonh@uunet.co.za on Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 05:23:21PM +0200 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 05:23:21PM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > > On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:06:21 PST, William Woods wrote: > > > Do I understand right that the RELENG_4 tag is now the stable tag, ie; > > FreeBSD 4-stable? > > Yes. Mind you, keep in mind that it's STABLE a few footsteps beyond a > point naught release. :-) > So does this mean that I should change the tag in my supfile to RELENG_4 from ``.'' now if I want to (ultimately) track 4.x-STABLE rather than 5.x-CURRENT? > Ciao, > Sheldon. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Microsoft: Where do you want to go today? Linux: Where do you want to go tomorrow? BSD: Are you guys coming, or what? -Poster at LinuxWorld 2000 ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 14 15:27: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3537437B866 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:27:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brdavis@orion.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11506; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:19:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:19:41 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: Mark Ovens Cc: Sheldon Hearn , bwoods2@uswest.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4 Message-ID: <20000314151941.A8288@orion.ac.hmc.edu> References: <2164.953047401@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> <20000314183713.C239@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre4i In-Reply-To: <20000314183713.C239@parish>; from mark@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org on Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 06:37:14PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 06:37:14PM +0000, Mark Ovens wrote: > On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 05:23:21PM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:06:21 PST, William Woods wrote: > > > > > Do I understand right that the RELENG_4 tag is now the stable tag, ie; > > > FreeBSD 4-stable? > > > > Yes. Mind you, keep in mind that it's STABLE a few footsteps beyond a > > point naught release. :-) > > So does this mean that I should change the tag in my supfile to > RELENG_4 from ``.'' now if I want to (ultimately) track 4.x-STABLE > rather than 5.x-CURRENT? Yes. HEAD is already diverging from RELENG_4 so you should do it now. -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 14 15:44:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F8437B85B for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:44:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from forrestc@workhorse.iMach.com) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04238; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 16:41:46 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 16:41:46 -0700 (MST) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: Stephen Cc: "Charles N. Owens" , Ken Bolingbroke , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Peter Radcliffe Subject: Re: disk cloning (& a bit of picobsd) In-Reply-To: <20000314150815.A20664@visi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 10:14:10AM -0500, Charles N. Owens wrote: > I also am curious as to why use of dd in this way is bad. Just my $0.02... "It Depends". First of all we're assuming a "modern" hard drive here which basically hides bad sectors from the os... If this isn't the case this opens the whole bad sector mapping can of worms. Depending on what you dd, you might find that interesting things happen. For example if you dd the entire disk (including partition tables, etc), everything will work great 100% of the time if the drive geometry (size, CYL, HD, SEC) is identical. If they differ, you may end up with some rather nasty weirdness such as inability to boot, corrupted data, etc. etc. etc. Along the same lines, if you dd a single partition you can experience weirdness if some parameter changes which the filesystem living on the partition to be consistent. So, maybe the short version of why someone could consider it "bad" to dd is that if you use something OTHER than dd, you generally have less concerns about corrupting a filesystem. FWIW, I do a LOT of picobsd stuff and ALWAYS use dd to copy floppies. Never have a problem. Then again a floppy is always 1.44MB - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) KD7EHZ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 14 16:12:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB3D337B82E for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 16:12:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <115425>; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:06:46 +1100 Content-return: prohibited From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: RELENG_4 In-reply-to: <200003141832.NAA84317@blackhelicopters.org>; from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org on Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 05:33:56AM +1100 To: Michael Lucas Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <00Mar15.110646est.115425@border.alcanet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <2164.953047401@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> <200003141832.NAA84317@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:06:42 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2000-Mar-15 05:33:56 +1100, Michael Lucas wrote: >Also, RELENG-3 is still there. I just supped it yesterday. RELENG_3 will exist for evermore. At time passes, fewer changes will be made to it. You can still get RELENG_2_0, RELENG_2_1 and RELENG_2_2. The only reason you can't get RELENG_1 is that it was based on the NET/2 code, which was all expunged as a condition of the AT&T/USL lawsuit. >IMHO, I'd treat this just like the upgrade from 2.x.2 to 3.0; I believe 4.0-RELEASE will be more stable than 3.0-RELEASE, and the upgrade procedure should be cleaner, but it will have a few rough edges. I wouldn't recommend putting 4.0 into production without thorough testing. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 14 17:22:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lunatic.oneinsane.net (lunatic.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0CC537B859 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:22:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net) Received: by lunatic.oneinsane.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ACA3919C; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:22:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:22:11 -0800 From: Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Is this beast supported? Message-ID: <20000314172211.B12065@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Reply-To: Ron Rosson Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD lunatic.oneinsane.net 3.4-STABLE X-Moon: The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (70% of Full) X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net X-PGP-KEY: http://www.oneinsane.net/~insane/insane2-pgp5i.txt X-Uptime: 5:12PM up 7:21, 1 user, load averages: 0.01, 0.01, 0.00 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anyone have any experience with the HP Netserver LPr series? TIA -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was /dev/null and *void() ------------------------------------------------------------------- A hard-on does not count as personal growth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 14 19:30:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kaon.intercom.com (kaon.intercom.com [198.143.3.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBADA37B8E4 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:30:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jason@intercom.com) Received: from [198.143.3.26] (helo=intercom.com) by kaon.intercom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12V4VE-000KDK-00; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 22:29:44 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 22:29:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Jason J. Horton" X-Sender: mail@kaon.intercom.com To: Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is this beast supported? In-Reply-To: <20000314172211.B12065@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Anyone have any experience with the HP Netserver LPr series? Just got a couple of these the other day. Have not done a full blown install, but I did boot from the 2 install floppies(3.4-R) and everything seemed to be recognized(onboard SCSI[ncr?], ethernet[fxp0], LVD drives and all). Going to be doing more tests soon, interested in how well the management port interacts with serial console and how well SMP performs. Well designed/made box, abit too deep, seems like there is alot of wasted space inside it. The supplied rails dont seem to work well with standard 19" cabinets(designed for HP racks), you may have to put em on a shelf. -J To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 14 19:34: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from extns1.vicone.net.au (extns1.vicone.net.au [210.8.182.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0FF737B88B for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:33:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rob@vicone.net.au) Received: from MGTOV2.MEL.INTERNAL (mgtov2 [210.8.182.67]) by extns1.vicone.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A26229F; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:33:48 +1100 (EST) Received: from RMOSS (Robert [172.20.4.40]) by MGTOV2.MEL.INTERNAL (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA19711; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:33:48 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000315143327.0096ad80@mgtov2.vicone.net.au> X-Sender: rob@mgtov2.vicone.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:33:27 +1100 To: Ron Rosson , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: rob Subject: Re: Is this beast supported? In-Reply-To: <20000314172211.B12065@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yep, The long, flat rack-mountable series work fine. We are using the Pentium-II 400mhz types with 3 Intel 10/100 meg cards as NAT servers. Running FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE, with IPFilter 3.3.9 Also, one machine working as a proxy server running 3.4-STABLE and squid etc. The Hot-Swappable drives are the best feature, as you can mirror the drives easily with the MetaDisk device, or simply copy the raw device with DD. The NAT boxes were up for 60 days, but were rebooted to install a new kernel and upgraded IPFilter software. rob. At 05:22 PM 14/03/2000 -0800, Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson wrote: >Anyone have any experience with the HP Netserver LPr series? > >TIA >-- >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... >The InSaNe One rm -rf * >insane@oneinsane.net and all was /dev/null and *void() >------------------------------------------------------------------- > A hard-on does not count as personal growth > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 14 22:46:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.webmaster.com (mail.webmaster.com [209.133.28.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1749A37B551 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 22:46:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from davids@webmaster.com) Received: from whenever ([209.133.29.2]) by shell.webmaster.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 22:46:18 -0800 From: "David Schwartz" To: Subject: Upgrading 3.x -> 4.0 STABLE unneccessarily hard Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 22:46:17 -0800 Message-ID: <000001bf8e4a$2a692080$021d85d1@youwant.to> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Upgrading 3.x->4.0 STABLE was made harder than it had to be because one program that is statically linked (objcopy or objdump or something like that) was trying to statically link to the system libc.a instead of the temporary libc.a. The system libc.a may not have 'asprintf' in it, bombing the make. DS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 14 22:53:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axl.ops.uunet.co.za (axl.ops.uunet.co.za [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E9037B84E for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 22:53:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.ops.uunet.co.za) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.ops.uunet.co.za) by axl.ops.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12V7dP-000Bnm-00; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 08:50:23 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Mark Ovens Cc: bwoods2@uswest.net, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_4 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 14 Mar 2000 18:37:14 GMT." <20000314183713.C239@parish> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 08:50:23 +0200 Message-ID: <45369.953103023@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 18:37:14 GMT, Mark Ovens wrote: > So does this mean that I should change the tag in my supfile to > RELENG_4 from ``.'' now if I want to (ultimately) track 4.x-STABLE > rather than 5.x-CURRENT? No! No! No! RELENG_4 will track 4.x-STABLE. HEAD (which you specify as a dot in your supfile) tracks 5.x-CURRENT. Ignore Brooks DavisA' reply; it doesn't look like he understood your question. Ciao Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 14 23:24:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blockhead.mincom.com (blockhead2.mincom.com [203.15.57.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BFF937B678 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 23:24:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from philh@mincom.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by blockhead.mincom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA91627; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:24:04 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from philh@mincom.com) Received: from porthole.mincom.oz.au(172.17.100.2) via SMTP by blockhead.mincom.oz.au, id smtpdZ91625; Wed Mar 15 17:23:58 2000 Received: (from philh@localhost) by porthole.mincom.oz.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/mincom) id RAA14273; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:23:57 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from philh) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:23:57 +1000 From: Phil Homewood To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: Mark Ovens , bwoods2@uswest.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4 Message-ID: <20000315172357.G26041@mincom.com> References: <20000314183713.C239@parish> <45369.953103023@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: <45369.953103023@axl.ops.uunet.co.za>; from Sheldon Hearn on Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 08:50:23AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > So does this mean that I should change the tag in my supfile to > > RELENG_4 from ``.'' now if I want to (ultimately) track 4.x-STABLE > > rather than 5.x-CURRENT? > > No! No! No! RELENG_4 will track 4.x-STABLE. HEAD (which you specify as > a dot in your supfile) tracks 5.x-CURRENT. Um. Am I missing something or is that in fact exactly what the original writer thought? :-) -- This transmission is for the intended addressee only and is confidential information. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete it and notify the sender. The contents of this email are the opinion of the writer and are not endorsed by Mincom Ltd unless expressly stated otherwise. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 14 23:44: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from evil.2y.net (port-9-29.adsl.one.net [209.50.121.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F76F37B935 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 23:43:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cokane@evil.2y.net) Received: (from cokane@localhost) by evil.2y.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA00474 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 02:48:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cokane) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 02:48:26 -0500 From: Coleman Kane To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: K6 MTRR Support Message-ID: <20000315024826.A461@evil.2y.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i X-Vim: vim:tw=70:ts=4:sw=4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey, I think I may have fixed the problem with the K6-2 MTRRs, what can I do to test this extensively. X 4.0 reports it as being able to set the write combining on the memory ranges it wants, and I don't have the problem where my colors are all messed up. --cokane To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 0: 3:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axl.ops.uunet.co.za (axl.ops.uunet.co.za [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CC8037B935 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 00:02:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.ops.uunet.co.za) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.ops.uunet.co.za) by axl.ops.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12V8iX-000Bya-00; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:59:45 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Brooks Davis Cc: Mark Ovens , bwoods2@uswest.net, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_4 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:57:45 +0200." <46007.953107065@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:59:45 +0200 Message-ID: <46039.953107185@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:57:45 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > Read his question. he wants to know whether "." as a tag will get him > 4.x-STABLE. Brooks! I owe you an apology! :-) I misread the question three times in a row. I read "Should I change from RELENG_4 to .", when in fact it was the other way around. Bad dog, no biscuit. :-) Sorry, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 0:25:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua (ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua [212.9.224.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6305737B95E; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 00:25:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sobomax@altavista.net) Received: from vega.vega.com (dialup2-40.iptelecom.net.ua [212.9.226.104]) by ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12811; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 10:29:26 +0200 (EET) Received: from altavista.net (big_brother.vega.com [192.168.1.1]) by vega.vega.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27641; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 10:24:53 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@altavista.net) Message-ID: <38CF48CF.59A100D7@altavista.net> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 10:24:47 +0200 From: Maxim Sobolev Reply-To: sobomax@mail.ru Organization: Vega International Capital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: uk,ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@freebsd.org Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: gcc -Os optimisation broken (RELENG_4) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've just upgraded my production server to the 4.0-RELEASE and found that squid23 when compiled with -Os option dying with signal 11 on each attempt to load page. When I recompiled it with -O fault disappeared. After some digging into the sources with gdb I found that fault came from dereferencing NULL pointer somewhere in the DNS query procedures. I've tracked the source of this pointer and found that the function rfc1035QuestionPack (rfc1035.c) called from rfc1035BuildAQuery receives NULL pointer instead of the supplied hostname as a 3rd argument. Following is two debugging sessions with squid compiled with -Os and -O (faulty call is in the end of the output): -Maxim -Os: Script started on Wed Mar 15 10:16:16 2000 root@vega# gdb squid GNU gdb 4.18 [GDB copyright omitted] (gdb) set args -C -N -d 10 (gdb) b rfc1035BuildAQuery Breakpoint 1 at 0x8096cb1: file rfc1035.c, line 472. (gdb) r Starting program: /usr/ports/www/squid23/work/squid-2.3.STABLE2/src/squid -C -N -d 10 [unrelevant squid output omitted] Breakpoint 1, 0x8096cb1 in rfc1035BuildAQuery ( hostname=0x84a5900 "www.yahoo.com", buf=0x8212c00 "", szp=0x8212e00) at rfc1035.c:472 472 size_t sz = *szp; (gdb) n 473 memset(&h, '\0', sizeof(h)); (gdb) 472 size_t sz = *szp; (gdb) 473 memset(&h, '\0', sizeof(h)); (gdb) 474 h.id = rfc1035Qid(); (gdb) 476 h.rd = 1; (gdb) 477 h.opcode = 0; /* QUERY */ (gdb) 478 h.qdcount = (unsigned int) 1; (gdb) 479 offset += rfc1035HeaderPack(buf + offset, sz - offset, &h); (gdb) 480 offset += rfc1035QuestionPack(buf + offset, (gdb) print hostname $1 = 0x84a5900 "www.yahoo.com" (gdb) list 475 h.qr = 0; 476 h.rd = 1; 477 h.opcode = 0; /* QUERY */ 478 h.qdcount = (unsigned int) 1; 479 offset += rfc1035HeaderPack(buf + offset, sz - offset, &h); 480 offset += rfc1035QuestionPack(buf + offset, 481 sz - offset, 482 hostname, 483 RFC1035_TYPE_A, 484 RFC1035_CLASS_IN); (gdb) s rfc1035QuestionPack (buf=0x8212c0c "", sz=500, name=0x0, type=1, class=1) at rfc1035.c:201 201 off += rfc1035NamePack(buf + off, sz - off, name); (gdb) q The program is running. Exit anyway? (y or n) y root@vega# exit Script done on Wed Mar 15 10:17:46 2000 -O: Script started on Wed Mar 15 09:57:49 2000 root@vega# gdb squid [GDB copyright omitted] (gdb) set args -C -N -d 10 (gdb) b rfc1035BuildAQuery Breakpoint 1 at 0x8096321: file rfc1035.c, line 469. (gdb) r Starting program: /usr/ports/www/squid23/work/squid-2.3.STABLE2/src/squid -C -N -d 10 [unrelevant squid output omitted] Breakpoint 1, 0x8096321 in rfc1035BuildAQuery ( hostname=0x84a5900 "www.yahoo.com", buf=0x8212c00 "", szp=0x8212e00) at rfc1035.c:469 469 { (gdb) n 472 size_t sz = *szp; (gdb) 473 memset(&h, '\0', sizeof(h)); (gdb) 474 h.id = rfc1035Qid(); (gdb) 475 h.qr = 0; (gdb) 476 h.rd = 1; (gdb) 477 h.opcode = 0; /* QUERY */ (gdb) 478 h.qdcount = (unsigned int) 1; (gdb) 479 offset += rfc1035HeaderPack(buf + offset, sz - offset, &h); (gdb) 480 offset += rfc1035QuestionPack(buf + offset, (gdb) print hostname $1 = 0x84a5900 "www.yahoo.com" (gdb) list 475 h.qr = 0; 476 h.rd = 1; 477 h.opcode = 0; /* QUERY */ 478 h.qdcount = (unsigned int) 1; 479 offset += rfc1035HeaderPack(buf + offset, sz - offset, &h); 480 offset += rfc1035QuestionPack(buf + offset, 481 sz - offset, 482 hostname, 483 RFC1035_TYPE_A, 484 RFC1035_CLASS_IN); (gdb) s rfc1035QuestionPack (buf=0x8212c0c "", sz=500, name=0x84a5900 "www.yahoo.com", type=1, class=1) at rfc1035.c:201 201 off += rfc1035NamePack(buf + off, sz - off, name); (gdb) q The program is running. Exit anyway? (y or n) y root@vega# exit Script done on Wed Mar 15 09:59:28 2000 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 3:49:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from acacia.cts.ucla.edu (acacia.cts.ucla.edu [149.142.36.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EE437B9DF for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 03:49:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from denis@acacia.cts.ucla.edu) Received: from localhost (denis@localhost) by acacia.cts.ucla.edu (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA06821 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 03:52:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from denis@acacia.cts.ucla.edu) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 03:52:53 -0800 (PST) From: Denis DeLaRoca To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: libc.so.4 for 3.4-STABLE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I upgraded from 3.4-RELEASE to the 3/11 version of 3.4-STABLE via network install. After the upgrade I can't start X11 because of, /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: shared object libc.so.4 not found how do I go about fixing this? -- Denis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 3:56:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from over.ru (over.rinet.ru [195.54.192.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 065BE37B581 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 03:56:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tarkhil@over.ru) Received: (qmail 13348 invoked by uid 1000); 15 Mar 2000 11:55:37 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:55:37 +0300 From: Alex Povolotsky To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Cannot make release, again and again Message-ID: <20000315145537.A12720@over.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 freebsd.cf /etc/mail/sendmail.cf for i in answer isdntel.sh record tell tell-re cord ; do install -c -o root -g wheel -m 700 $i /etc/isdn ; done ; for i in i sdnd.rates.D isdnd.rates.F isdnd.rates.UK.BT isdnd.r c.sample isdntel.alias.sample ; do install -c -o root -g wheel -m 600 $i /etc/isdn ; done (cd /usr/src/etc; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 /usr/src/etc/../crypto/open ssh/ssh_config /usr/src/etc/../crypto/openssh/sshd_config /etc/ssh ) (cd /dev; sh MAKEDEV all) usage: mknod name [b | c] major minor /sbin/mknod console usage: mknod name [b | c] major minor /sbin/mknod fd0 usage: mknod name [b | c] major minor /sbin/mknod da0 usage: mknod name [b | c] major minor /sbin/mknod da0s1 usage: mknod name [b | c] major minor /sbin/mknod da0s2 usage: mknod name [b | c] major minor /sbin/mknod da0s3 usage: mknod name [b | c] major minor on make release, at freshly cvsupped 3-STABLE. For several days. What am I doing wrong? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 4:36:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (UCB-Async4-CRISCO.CRIS.NET [212.110.129.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35DDB37B8FC for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 04:35:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id OAA02613; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:34:03 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:34:03 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Alex Povolotsky Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cannot make release, again and again Message-ID: <20000315143403.A92304@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Alex Povolotsky , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000315145537.A12720@over.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <20000315145537.A12720@over.ru>; from Alex Povolotsky on Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 02:55:37PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 02:55:37PM +0300, Alex Povolotsky wrote: > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 freebsd.cf /etc/mail/sendmail.cf > for i in answer isdntel.sh record tell > tell-re > cord ; do install -c -o root -g wheel -m 700 $i /etc/isdn ; done ; for i > in i > sdnd.rates.D isdnd.rates.F isdnd.rates.UK.BT > isdnd.r > c.sample isdntel.alias.sample ; do install -c -o root -g > wheel > -m 600 $i /etc/isdn ; done > (cd /usr/src/etc; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 > /usr/src/etc/../crypto/open > ssh/ssh_config /usr/src/etc/../crypto/openssh/sshd_config /etc/ssh ) > (cd /dev; sh MAKEDEV all) > usage: mknod name [b | c] major minor > /sbin/mknod console > usage: mknod name [b | c] major minor > /sbin/mknod fd0 > usage: mknod name [b | c] major minor > /sbin/mknod da0 > usage: mknod name [b | c] major minor > /sbin/mknod da0s1 > usage: mknod name [b | c] major minor > /sbin/mknod da0s2 > usage: mknod name [b | c] major minor > /sbin/mknod da0s3 > usage: mknod name [b | c] major minor > > > on make release, > > at freshly cvsupped 3-STABLE. For several days. > > What am I doing wrong? > You should compile and install 4.0-STABLE version of src/sbin/mknod. This is documented in src/UPDATING. It is always better to upgrade (world) first, then make release for the same sources. -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 4:49: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A0337B9B6 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 04:49:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA36717 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:49:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:49:38 +0100 (CET) From: "O. Hartmann" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: telnet problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Since yesterday's last cvsupdate I got massive problems with telnet. Telnet now drops a core when called! from one site within our campus I cannot reach our server, after telnetting the machine I get the message on the local client, that foreign host has closed the connection. From another site, using Tera Term Telnet on WinNT clients, I have no problems login in. I did no apply any restrictions to my homesite nor to other sites I can connect to. Has something changed the last few days? Gruss O. Hartmann ------------------------------------------------------------------- ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de Klimadatenserver des IPA, Universitaet Mainz Netzwerk- und Systembetreuung To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 4:50:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50F037B9DA for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 04:50:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jedgar@fxp.org) Received: from earth.fxp (oca-p1-8.hitter.net [207.192.76.8]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E41A9B17; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:50:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:50:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: jedgar@earth.fxp To: Alex Povolotsky Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot make release, again and again In-Reply-To: <20000315145537.A12720@over.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Alex Povolotsky wrote: > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 freebsd.cf /etc/mail/sendmail.cf > for i in answer isdntel.sh record tell > tell-re > cord ; do install -c -o root -g wheel -m 700 $i /etc/isdn ; done ; for i > in i > sdnd.rates.D isdnd.rates.F isdnd.rates.UK.BT > isdnd.r > c.sample isdntel.alias.sample ; do install -c -o root -g > wheel > -m 600 $i /etc/isdn ; done > (cd /usr/src/etc; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 > /usr/src/etc/../crypto/open > ssh/ssh_config /usr/src/etc/../crypto/openssh/sshd_config /etc/ssh ) > (cd /dev; sh MAKEDEV all) > usage: mknod name [b | c] major minor > /sbin/mknod console > usage: mknod name [b | c] major minor > /sbin/mknod fd0 > on make release, > * snip * > > at freshly cvsupped 3-STABLE. For several days. > > What am I doing wrong? > Because you are trying to make a -current release on a -stable system. AFAIK, this is not possible. Your best bet would be to update to -current to make a -current release or simple make a -stable release on your -stable system. ----- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 5:47:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server.hmm.za.net (admin.bsdonline.org [196.28.82.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F98B37B9C6 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 05:47:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david@campsbay.za.net) Received: from DAVID (david [192.168.1.2]) by server.hmm.za.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA43903 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:48:47 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from david@campsbay.za.net) Message-ID: <001301bf8e85$2cb90220$0201a8c0@DAVID> From: "David" To: Subject: upgrade question Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:48:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i have done a normal cvsup with RELENG_4 now my /usr/src is up to date with freebsd 4.0-stable ? will just a make world do the trick to upgrade my system, or are there special things i must do to upgrade from 3.4-stable to 4.0-stable ? Please respond thank you _________________________ David van Rensburg - david@van.web.za aka Van FreeBSD: The Power to Serve __ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 5:53: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D117337B9C6 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 05:53:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e2FEF1w28969; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 06:15:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 06:15:00 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein To: David Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: upgrade question Message-ID: <20000315061500.G14789@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <001301bf8e85$2cb90220$0201a8c0@DAVID> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <001301bf8e85$2cb90220$0201a8c0@DAVID>; from david@campsbay.za.net on Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 03:48:40PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * David [000315 06:10] wrote: > i have done a normal cvsup with RELENG_4 > now my /usr/src is up to date with freebsd 4.0-stable ? > will just a make world do the trick to upgrade my system, or are there > special things i must do to upgrade from 3.4-stable to 4.0-stable ? > > Please respond thank you please read src/UPDATING like i've told the last 50 people that asked. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 5:56:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server.hmm.za.net (admin.bsdonline.org [196.28.82.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B3F37B927 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 05:56:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david@campsbay.za.net) Received: from DAVID (david [192.168.1.2]) by server.hmm.za.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA49282; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:57:24 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from david@campsbay.za.net) Message-ID: <002b01bf8e86$605af9c0$0201a8c0@DAVID> From: "David" To: "Alfred Perlstein" , References: <001301bf8e85$2cb90220$0201a8c0@DAVID> <20000315061500.G14789@fw.wintelcom.net> Subject: Re: upgrade question Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:57:17 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG well what will just a make world do that will make it not work ? what will not work from me doing that ? _________________________ David van Rensburg - david@van.web.za aka Van FreeBSD: The Power to Serve __ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alfred Perlstein" To: "David" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 4:15 PM Subject: Re: upgrade question > * David [000315 06:10] wrote: > > i have done a normal cvsup with RELENG_4 > > now my /usr/src is up to date with freebsd 4.0-stable ? > > will just a make world do the trick to upgrade my system, or are there > > special things i must do to upgrade from 3.4-stable to 4.0-stable ? > > > > Please respond thank you > > please read src/UPDATING like i've told the last 50 people that asked. > > -Alfred > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 6:24:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B18C837BAD1 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 06:24:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e2FEjrJ29850; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 06:45:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 06:45:53 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein To: David Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upgrade question Message-ID: <20000315064552.I14789@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <001301bf8e85$2cb90220$0201a8c0@DAVID> <20000315061500.G14789@fw.wintelcom.net> <002b01bf8e86$605af9c0$0201a8c0@DAVID> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <002b01bf8e86$605af9c0$0201a8c0@DAVID>; from david@campsbay.za.net on Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 03:57:17PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * David [000315 06:18] wrote: > well what will just a make world do that will make it not work > ? > what will not work from me doing that ? please see: http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?db=*&term=read thanks, -Alfred > > > > _________________________ > David van Rensburg - david@van.web.za > aka Van > > FreeBSD: The Power to Serve > __ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alfred Perlstein" > To: "David" > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 4:15 PM > Subject: Re: upgrade question > > > > * David [000315 06:10] wrote: > > > i have done a normal cvsup with RELENG_4 > > > now my /usr/src is up to date with freebsd 4.0-stable ? > > > will just a make world do the trick to upgrade my system, or are there > > > special things i must do to upgrade from 3.4-stable to 4.0-stable ? > > > > > > Please respond thank you > > > > please read src/UPDATING like i've told the last 50 people that asked. > > > > -Alfred > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 6:27:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2962F37B9E0; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 06:27:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA84115; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:28:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:28:07 +0100 (CET) From: "O. Hartmann" To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: SMP on RCC/Reliant HE/LE chipsets? (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We consider upgrading our hardware to new SMP system. Amazed by the bug of Intel's i840 chipset in conjunction with ECC and the memory and extreme bandwith limitiations due the memory translation hubs when using cost effective SDRAM instaed of horrible expensive RAMBUS modules, I look for other solutions and found some interesting informations at ASUS and especially at TYAN. Their Thunder 2500 mainboard seems to be really interesting because it comes with a high performance chipset not offered by Intel. So, target OS is FreeBSD 4.0 and it should run on a Dual-Slot I Coppermine system using this Tyan Thunder 2500 mainboard. Does anybody has experiences with the used Reliant core chipset and FreeBSD? My horrible experiences with so called MP Spec compliant systems and FreeBSD makes me confused and I'm not sure whether my thoughts about this nice RCC/Reliant architecture is suitable for FreeBSD SMP systems (see M. Smith's comment on problems with the i840 chipset and SMP on FBSD ... :-( ). Gruss O. Hartmann ------------------------------------------------------------------- ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de Klimadatenserver des IPA, Universitaet Mainz Netzwerk- und Systembetreuung To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 6:33:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lunatic.oneinsane.net (lunatic.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B91837B9E0 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 06:33:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net) Received: by lunatic.oneinsane.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3B2F719C; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 06:33:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 06:33:26 -0800 From: Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is this beast supported? Message-ID: <20000315063326.B24016@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Reply-To: Ron Rosson References: <20000314172211.B12065@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from jason@intercom.com on Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 10:29:43PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD lunatic.oneinsane.net 3.4-STABLE X-Moon: The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (76% of Full) X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net X-PGP-KEY: http://www.oneinsane.net/~insane/insane2-pgp5i.txt X-Uptime: 6:32AM up 20:41, 1 user, load averages: 0.09, 0.05, 0.01 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Jason J. Horton was heard blurting out: > > Anyone have any experience with the HP Netserver LPr series? > > Just got a couple of these the other day. Have not done a full blown > install, but I did boot from the 2 install floppies(3.4-R) and everything > seemed to be recognized(onboard SCSI[ncr?], ethernet[fxp0], LVD drives and > all). Going to be doing more tests soon, interested in how well the > management port interacts with serial console and how well SMP performs. > > Well designed/made box, abit too deep, seems like there is alot of wasted > space inside it. The supplied rails dont seem to work well with standard > 19" cabinets(designed for HP racks), you may have to put em on a shelf. > Thank you for the input and the timely response. Ron -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was /dev/null and *void() ------------------------------------------------------------------- Errors have been made others will be blamed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 6:55:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.surf1.de (mail.Surf1.de [194.25.165.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF1D37BB41 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 06:55:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alex@cichlids.com) Received: from cichlids.com (postfix@pC19F545F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [193.159.84.95]) by mail.surf1.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14325; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:55:31 +0100 Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by cichlids.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EFB2AC26; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:55:59 +0100 (CET) Received: (from alex@localhost) by cichlids.cichlids.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA06733; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:55:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from alex) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:55:06 +0100 From: Alexander Langer To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: David , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: upgrade question Message-ID: <20000315155506.A6468@cichlids.cichlids.com> Mail-Followup-To: Alfred Perlstein , David , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <001301bf8e85$2cb90220$0201a8c0@DAVID> <20000315061500.G14789@fw.wintelcom.net> <002b01bf8e86$605af9c0$0201a8c0@DAVID> <20000315064552.I14789@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000315064552.I14789@fw.wintelcom.net>; from bright@wintelcom.net on Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 06:45:53AM -0800 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Alfred Perlstein (bright@wintelcom.net): > please see: > http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?db=*&term=read *grin* Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 7: 7:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.omen.ru (www.omen.ru [193.125.27.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9174F37BAAF for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:07:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from esp@agama.com) Received: from pol-154.polaris-int.ru ([195.94.226.154] helo=esp.agama.com) by www.omen.ru with smtp ID 12VFO3-000Lrk-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:07:04 +0300 From: Eugene S.Panenko To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: MyLex DAC960 driver Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:53:43 +0300 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00031518095606.06447@esp.agama.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, Does anybody have a driver for MyLex DAC960 RAID for -stable? -- Regards, =09Eugene To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 7:29:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A5137BB31 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:29:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (user-2ivetpr.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.119.59]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26842; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 10:28:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200003151528.KAA26842@smtp6.mindspring.com> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <45369.953103023@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 10:28:27 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: Sheldon Hearn Subject: Re: RELENG_4 Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, bwoods2@uswest.net, Mark Ovens Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 15-Mar-00 Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > > On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 18:37:14 GMT, Mark Ovens wrote: > >> So does this mean that I should change the tag in my supfile to >> RELENG_4 from ``.'' now if I want to (ultimately) track 4.x-STABLE >> rather than 5.x-CURRENT? > > No! No! No! RELENG_4 will track 4.x-STABLE. HEAD (which you specify as > a dot in your supfile) tracks 5.x-CURRENT. > > Ignore Brooks DavisA' reply; it doesn't look like he understood your > question. Umm, Brooks was correct, and Mark, you are correct. If you want 4.x-stable, use RELENG_4. Have some coffee Sheldon. :) > Ciao > Sheldon. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 7:38:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E8F37B697 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:38:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA00912 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 16:38:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 16:38:41 +0100 (CET) From: "O. Hartmann" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 4.0 has telnet Problems! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sirs. It is a kind of confusing an tricky and I'm observing this problem this day. I just cvsupdated and installed the last stuff, built a kernel, installed it, rebooted the system. Telnet crashes now, dumps a core. I still have two sessions open to my remote server (via TERA TERM Pro) but can not open any more session. It seems to be like the problems in the morning, some customers did not have any chance to log in. From one remote site I can log in without problems, from a second FBSD 4.0 box login is no problem, but from our LAN on campus, all the times I get a messages, that my host closed connections. But why can I log in via a NT client program while the original telnet of NT does not worlkk well? Is there a new timeout scheme in connecting or some kind of key-pairs like ssh? Gruss O. Hartmann ------------------------------------------------------------------- ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de Klimadatenserver des IPA, Universitaet Mainz Netzwerk- und Systembetreuung To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 7:46:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (UCB-Async4-CRISCO.CRIS.NET [212.110.129.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42CD737BC14 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:45:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id RAA54857 for stable@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:45:58 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:45:57 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions Message-ID: <20000315174557.C40984@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! Please, people, follow the instructions given at the end of src/UPDATING to upgrade your system from 3.x to 4.0-STABLE. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 9:16:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46A837BB25; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:16:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA55345; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:16:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:16:47 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: David Schwartz Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading 3.x -> 4.0 STABLE unneccessarily hard In-Reply-To: <000001bf8e4a$2a692080$021d85d1@youwant.to> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, David Schwartz wrote: > Upgrading 3.x->4.0 STABLE was made harder than it had to be because one > program that is statically linked (objcopy or objdump or something like > that) was trying to statically link to the system libc.a instead of the > temporary libc.a. The system libc.a may not have 'asprintf' in it, bombing > the make. I haven't heard of anyone experiencing this failure mode before. What value of 'x' do you have? asprintf has been in libc since 1996: revision 1.1 date: 1996/05/27 10:49:42; author: peter; state: Exp; branches: 1.1.2; 1.1.4; Add an implementation of the gnu-ish asprintf() and vasprintf(). They are not based on gpl'ed code, just prototype and usage. I'm not 100% certain they behave the same while the system is in trouble (eg: malloc() failing) but in those circumstances all bets would be off anyway. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 9:19:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1FF37BA1E; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:19:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA55736; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:19:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:19:26 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: Denis DeLaRoca Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libc.so.4 for 3.4-STABLE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Denis DeLaRoca wrote: > I upgraded from 3.4-RELEASE to the 3/11 version of 3.4-STABLE via network > install. After the upgrade I can't start X11 because of, > > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: shared object libc.so.4 not found > > how do I go about fixing this? Looks like you did something weird: this version of the library is found in FreeBSD 4.x, not 3.x. If you built X on a 3.x system (and it previously worked there) it never should be looking for libc.so.4. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 9:20:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0891A37BBA4; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:20:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA56031; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:20:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:20:41 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: "O. Hartmann" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: telnet problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, O. Hartmann wrote: > Since yesterday's last cvsupdate I got massive problems with telnet. > Telnet now drops a core when called! Did you do a full make world, and to which version of FreeBSD? Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 9:22:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60DBA37BDEE for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:22:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00234; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:22:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <38CFC6DA.BDDEA4EC@gorean.org> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:22:34 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0313 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Denis DeLaRoca Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libc.so.4 for 3.4-STABLE References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Denis DeLaRoca wrote: > > I upgraded from 3.4-RELEASE to the 3/11 version of 3.4-STABLE via network > install. After the upgrade I can't start X11 because of, > > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: shared object libc.so.4 not found > > how do I go about fixing this? The best fix is to pkg_delete all your X stuff and recompile. Doug -- "While the future's there for anyone to change, still you know it seems, it would be easier sometimes to change the past" - Jackson Browne, "Fountain of Sorrow" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 10:53:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD1037BCCF; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 10:53:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA03528; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 19:54:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 19:54:20 +0100 (CET) From: "O. Hartmann" To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: telnet problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: Dear Kris. Yes, I made a full make world. When login in via X11, I do not have any problem (so, I use only the console as X11 terminal). When login in via Tera Term Pro telnet client, coming from my bureau, I have no problems. But: sometimes telnet dumps core, wonder why! And: some of mz customers can not login from some other places, telnet-daemon immediately stops after printing OS version (I have FBSD 4.0-STABLE, today's last patches ...). I'm confused about the different behaviour of telnet, login and X11, sorry, I did not find any information about each service is relating to what kind of configuration file and which configuration file has precedence over which other file (it seems to me that obviously /etc/login.access has precedence over /etc/login.conf, but what's with pam.conf and auth.conf?). >On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, O. Hartmann wrote: > >> Since yesterday's last cvsupdate I got massive problems with telnet. >> Telnet now drops a core when called! > >Did you do a full make world, and to which version of FreeBSD? > >Kris > >---- >In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe > > Gruss O. Hartmann ------------------------------------------------------------------- ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de Klimadatenserver des IPA, Universitaet Mainz Netzwerk- und Systembetreuung To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 11: 4: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00FEB37BA7B; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:03:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA96122; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:03:56 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA88473; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:03:47 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003151903.MAA88473@harmony.village.org> To: Ruslan Ermilov Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:45:57 +0200." <20000315174557.C40984@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> References: <20000315174557.C40984@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:03:47 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000315174557.C40984@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Ruslan Ermilov writes: : Please, people, follow the instructions given at the end of : src/UPDATING to upgrade your system from 3.x to 4.0-STABLE. I'm thinking of gutting UPDATING in 4.0-stable (and 3.x stable too) and leaving just the 3.x -> 4.0 upgrade and starting over. Comments? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 11:21:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sstar.com (sstar.com [209.102.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD3137C1E8 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:21:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from king@sstar.com) Received: from jking ([134.132.75.164]) by sstar.com with SMTP (IPAD 2.52) id 6237300; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:21:38 -0600 Message-ID: <005701bf8eb3$b02b2150$a44b8486@jking> From: "Jim King" To: "Warner Losh" Cc: References: <20000315174557.C40984@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> <200003151903.MAA88473@harmony.village.org> Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:21:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > In message <20000315174557.C40984@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Ruslan Ermilov writes: > : Please, people, follow the instructions given at the end of > : src/UPDATING to upgrade your system from 3.x to 4.0-STABLE. > > I'm thinking of gutting UPDATING in 4.0-stable (and 3.x stable too) > and leaving just the 3.x -> 4.0 upgrade and starting over. > > Comments? I find the current one somewhat confusing. Here's my thoughts after a quick perusal: - Put the 3.x-to-4.x instructions at the top of the file. This is what most people will be interested in. - Do I need to build a new kernel first or not? One of the breakage notices implies this, but the 3.x-to-4.x instructions at the end of the file have a buildworld before a kernel build. If I don't need to build a new kernel first I think it should say something like "you don't need to build a new kernel first despite what breakage 19990929 says". - Why do I need to do 'make -DNOINFO installworld' followed immediately by 'make installworld'? - The wd to ad device name switch should be emphasized. Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 11:24:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [212.74.0.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE92637C0CA; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:24:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) id TAA06107; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 19:24:20 GMT (envelope-from joe) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 19:24:20 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: Warner Losh Cc: Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions Message-ID: <20000315192420.D52322@florence.pavilion.net> References: <20000315174557.C40984@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> <200003151903.MAA88473@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <200003151903.MAA88473@harmony.village.org> X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 12:03:47PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <20000315174557.C40984@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Ruslan Ermilov writes: > : Please, people, follow the instructions given at the end of > : src/UPDATING to upgrade your system from 3.x to 4.0-STABLE. > > I'm thinking of gutting UPDATING in 4.0-stable (and 3.x stable too) > and leaving just the 3.x -> 4.0 upgrade and starting over. > > Comments? > > Warner Sounds like a good idea to me - I'm currently upgrading a machine from 2.2.2 to 3.4, and could have done with concise instructions. If we can make it as clear as possible it will really help when we have to go back to 3.x/4.x later (in the 6.x days :) I moved loads of machines from 2.x to 3.x last year, but can I remember how? A decent UPDATING would really help. I've had to do 2.2.2->2.2.5->2.2.8->3.4. Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: Take the red pill and we'll show you just how Technical Manager deep the rabbit hole goes. (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 11:32:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from firewall.symark.com (firewall.symark.westlake.iswest.net [207.178.203.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4036D37C060; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:32:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ggross@symark.com) Received: (from mailer@localhost) by firewall.symark.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA01193; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:32:36 -0800 Received: from minnow.symark.com(128.1.1.70) by firewall.symark.com via smap (V2.1/2.1+anti-relay+anti-spam) id xma001167; Wed, 15 Mar 00 11:32:19 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:32:10 -0800 (PST) From: Glen Gross X-Sender: ggross@minnow To: Warner Losh Cc: Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions In-Reply-To: <200003151903.MAA88473@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think that's a good idea... upgrading from 3.x to 4.0 is too complicated to be worth the hassle. The UPDATING document really doesn't make this clear. I have also seen many variant procedures posted on this list. Glen Gross Unix Technical Support Specialist SYMARK SOFTWARE 5716 Corsa Avenue, Suite 200 Westlake Village, CA 91362 Main: 818-865-6100 FAX: 818-889-1894 http://www.symark.com Technical Support: unix-support@symark.com On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <20000315174557.C40984@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Ruslan Ermilov writes: > : Please, people, follow the instructions given at the end of > : src/UPDATING to upgrade your system from 3.x to 4.0-STABLE. > > I'm thinking of gutting UPDATING in 4.0-stable (and 3.x stable too) > and leaving just the 3.x -> 4.0 upgrade and starting over. > > Comments? > > Warner > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 11:50:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FFA737BAAA; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:50:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA96320; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:50:37 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA88847; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:50:28 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003151950.MAA88847@harmony.village.org> To: Glen Gross Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions Cc: Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:32:10 PST." References: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:50:28 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Glen Gross writes: : I think that's a good idea... upgrading from 3.x to 4.0 is too complicated : to be worth the hassle. The UPDATING document really doesn't make this : clear. I have also seen many variant procedures posted on this list. Too complicated to be worth the hassle? The few simple steps in UPDATING have been followed by me on several systems and work... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 11:58:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from napalm.plano.sterling.com (napalm.plano.sterling.com [138.42.1.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB3137BA58 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:58:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alan.edmonds@sterling.com) Received: from sterling.com (CD27T.plano.sterling.com [10.1.54.234]) by napalm.plano.sterling.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA27601; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:57:48 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <38CFEB3B.B8973A6D@sterling.com> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:57:47 -0600 From: Alan Edmonds X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warner Losh Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG One comment regarding the UPGRADE instructions. In the build kernel section, it specifies to ... cd usr/usr.bin/genassym make depend all install clean cd ../../usr.sbin/config make depend all install clean ... In the main instructions, after you reboot in single user mode, you cd /usr/src make -DNOINFO installworld But, this will fail trying to install genassym (since it's been cleaned). I would suggest removing the "clean" target from the build kernel instruction section. -- Alan Edmonds, KB5ZUY Sterling Software M/S 132 Phone: +1-972-801-6485 5800 Tennyson Pkwy. Email: alan.edmonds@sterling.com Plano, TX, USA 75024 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 12: 2:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server.hmm.za.net (admin.bsdonline.org [196.28.82.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3156437BD26 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:02:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david@campsbay.za.net) Received: from DAVID (david [192.168.1.2]) by server.hmm.za.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA03164 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 21:57:06 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from david@campsbay.za.net) Message-ID: <001d01bf8eb8$aa23e8f0$0201a8c0@DAVID> From: "David" To: Subject: network card query Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 21:57:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG could just device ep in the kernel config file work now with RELENG_4 ? it used to specify irq etc ? is just that ok now ? _________________________ David van Rensburg - david@van.web.za aka Van FreeBSD: The Power to Serve __ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 12: 7:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ulysses.noc.ntua.gr (ulysses.noc.ntua.gr [147.102.222.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A184337BA52; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:07:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr) Received: from dblab.ece.ntua.gr (ithaca.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr [147.102.12.1]) by ulysses.noc.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA07666; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 22:07:24 +0200 (EET) Received: from mbazo.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr (mbazo.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr [147.102.12.8]) by dblab.ece.ntua.gr (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e2FK7NJ48243; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 22:07:23 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <200003152007.e2FK7NJ48243@dblab.ece.ntua.gr> From: Yiorgos Adamopoulos Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 22:07:23 +0200 To: Warner Losh Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions Cc: Glen Gross , Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200003151950.MAA88847@harmony.village.org> References: <200003151950.MAA88847@harmony.village.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: Priority: NORMAL X-Mailer: Execmail for Win32 Version 5.0.1 Build (55) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" On Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:50:28 -0700 Warner Losh wrote: > Too complicated to be worth the hassle? The few simple steps in > UPDATING have been followed by me on several systems and work... This is always highly dependent on both the experience and the timeframe of the respective administrators. -- Yiorgos Adamopoulos, adamo@ieee.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 12: 8:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3528A37BA52 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:08:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from drifty@uclink.berkeley.edu) Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (c1039736-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com [24.14.147.168]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA24565 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:08:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38CFEE20.4247737E@uclink.berkeley.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:10:08 -0800 From: Drifty Reply-To: drifty@bigfoot.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 12:10:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from techpower.net (techpower.net [205.133.231.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4E137BA38; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:10:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hometeam@techpower.net) Received: from localhost (hometeam@localhost) by techpower.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA54761; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:16:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from hometeam@techpower.net) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:16:45 -0500 (EST) From: hometeam To: Warner Losh Cc: Glen Gross , Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions In-Reply-To: <200003151950.MAA88847@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well since there is just a few why not share it with everyone...***GRIN*** On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > In message Glen Gross writes: > : I think that's a good idea... upgrading from 3.x to 4.0 is too complicated > : to be worth the hassle. The UPDATING document really doesn't make this > : clear. I have also seen many variant procedures posted on this list. > > Too complicated to be worth the hassle? The few simple steps in > UPDATING have been followed by me on several systems and work... > > Warner > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 12:10:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35BA37BA73; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:10:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA96438; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:10:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA89087; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:10:04 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003152010.NAA89087@harmony.village.org> To: Yiorgos Adamopoulos Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions Cc: Glen Gross , Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 15 Mar 2000 22:07:23 +0200." <200003152007.e2FK7NJ48243@dblab.ece.ntua.gr> References: <200003152007.e2FK7NJ48243@dblab.ece.ntua.gr> <200003151950.MAA88847@harmony.village.org> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:10:04 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200003152007.e2FK7NJ48243@dblab.ece.ntua.gr> Yiorgos Adamopoulos writes: : This is always highly dependent on both the experience and the timeframe of : the respective administrators. True. 3.4 -> 4.0 -current was a nightmare for a long time. Also, I tend to fly on autopilot a lot where it takes a lot to jar me awake :-) Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 12:11:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3911A37BA41; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:11:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA96450; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:11:32 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA89116; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:11:23 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003152011.NAA89116@harmony.village.org> To: hometeam Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions Cc: Glen Gross , Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:16:45 EST." References: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:11:23 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message hometeam writes: : Well since there is just a few why not share it with everyone...***GRIN*** read the updating file. They are enshrined almost correctly there. I'll do another upgrade and make sure that everything works and then checkin a revised updating file. I also have a newer updating file for 3.0-stable that some folks did, but never merged together. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 12:15:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209B637B9BE for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:15:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (dcs@p47-dn02kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [211.0.245.112]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) with ESMTP id FAA07754; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 05:12:48 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <38CFEE6B.83B61812@newsguy.com> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 05:11:23 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Ovens Cc: Sheldon Hearn , bwoods2@uswest.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4 References: <2164.953047401@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> <20000314183713.C239@parish> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark Ovens wrote: > > So does this mean that I should change the tag in my supfile to > RELENG_4 from ``.'' now if I want to (ultimately) track 4.x-STABLE > rather than 5.x-CURRENT? There are new 4.x-stable-supfile and 4.x-secure-stable-supfile files. Since the plan up to the last moment, as far as I knew (and I had asked), was to keep 4.x -current for a while longer, one can assume that 3.x will not be cease to be the prefered "stable" platform for a while. As a matter of fact, we don't even have an automated source upgrade procedure to 4.0 from 3.x-stable yet. "Make upgrade" won't work, and neither will a simple "make world", and the path that exists to do so is not the kind of thing we usually ask of -stable users. Anyway, these files have been committed to RELENG_3, RELENG_4 and -current. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 12:25:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (mass.cdrom.com [204.216.28.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268E637BA1B for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:25:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01091; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:27:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200003152027.MAA01091@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Coleman Kane Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: K6 MTRR Support In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 15 Mar 2000 02:48:26 EST." <20000315024826.A461@evil.2y.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:27:28 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hey, I think I may have fixed the problem with the K6-2 MTRRs, what > can I do to test this extensively. X 4.0 reports it as being able to > set the write combining on the memory ranges it wants, and I don't > have the problem where my colors are all messed up. Smack X as hard as you can; post the patch so that other people with slightly different hardware can test it. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 12:27:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rlee.integratus.com (rlee.rdsl.co.lmi.net [207.174.195.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F065937BA96 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:27:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rel@integratus.com) Received: from localhost (rel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rlee.integratus.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA69272 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:29:05 GMT (envelope-from rel@integratus.com) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:29:05 +0000 (GMT) From: "Robert E. Lee" To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 4.0 In-Reply-To: <200003151950.MAA88847@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I recently did a cvsup with the 4.x src (RELENG_4), which works with no problems. However, when attempting a 'make buildworld' I see this error message (after several minutes of compiling): /usr/src/usr.sbin/ppp/chap_ms.c:29: openssl/des.h: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed Has anyone else seen/heard of this issue? Robert E. Lee Sun Enterprise Certified Engineer Senior Technical Consultant, Integratus Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 12:31:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from techpower.net (techpower.net [205.133.231.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6132E37B9C8; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:30:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hometeam@techpower.net) Received: from localhost (hometeam@localhost) by techpower.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA85198; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:37:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from hometeam@techpower.net) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:37:16 -0500 (EST) From: hometeam To: Warner Losh Cc: Glen Gross , Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions In-Reply-To: <200003152011.NAA89116@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I did update..It just wasen't any fun at all for me..I am waiting on my main machinces till most the bugs are worked out. On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > In message hometeam writes: > : Well since there is just a few why not share it with everyone...***GRIN*** > > read the updating file. They are enshrined almost correctly there. > I'll do another upgrade and make sure that everything works and then > checkin a revised updating file. I also have a newer updating file > for 3.0-stable that some folks did, but never merged together. > > Warner > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 12:48: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server.hmm.za.net (admin.bsdonline.org [196.28.82.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3061A37BB16 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:47:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david@campsbay.za.net) Received: from DAVID (david [192.168.1.2]) by server.hmm.za.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA05116 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 22:48:30 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from david@campsbay.za.net) Message-ID: <000f01bf8ebf$d9d00690$0201a8c0@DAVID> From: "David" To: Subject: ep0 question Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 22:48:36 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG could just device ep in the kernel config file work now with RELENG_4 ? it used to specify irq etc ? is just that ok now ? _________________________ David van Rensburg - david@van.web.za aka Van FreeBSD: The Power to Serve __ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 13: 6:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1313037BCC5; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:06:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [194.78.235.76] (dialup648.brussels.skynet.be [195.238.21.136]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E4CCD89; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 22:06:18 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200003151950.MAA88847@harmony.village.org> References: <200003151950.MAA88847@harmony.village.org> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 22:05:40 +0100 To: Warner Losh , Glen Gross From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions Cc: Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:50 PM -0700 2000/3/15, Warner Losh wrote: > Too complicated to be worth the hassle? The few simple steps in > UPDATING have been followed by me on several systems and work... What might work fine for -CURRENT users may be too complex for people used to much more polished procedures in -STABLE. Unfortunately, there are *way* too many people who are ready to jump on the .0 release, and there's not likely to be too much you can do to protect them from blowing off their foot in this fashion. -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 13: 7:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gadolinium.btinternet.com (gadolinium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED6637BC7C for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:07:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from [213.1.163.125] (helo=parish.my.domain) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12VL0s-0005zm-00; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 21:07:31 +0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA00527; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 21:07:05 GMT (envelope-from mark) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 21:07:05 +0000 From: Mark Ovens To: Jim King Cc: Warner Losh , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions Message-ID: <20000315210705.A244@parish> References: <20000315174557.C40984@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> <200003151903.MAA88473@harmony.village.org> <005701bf8eb3$b02b2150$a44b8486@jking> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <005701bf8eb3$b02b2150$a44b8486@jking>; from king@sstar.com on Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 01:21:39PM -0600 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 01:21:39PM -0600, Jim King wrote: > > In message <20000315174557.C40984@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Ruslan Ermilov > writes: > > : Please, people, follow the instructions given at the end of > > : src/UPDATING to upgrade your system from 3.x to 4.0-STABLE. > > > > I'm thinking of gutting UPDATING in 4.0-stable (and 3.x stable too) > > and leaving just the 3.x -> 4.0 upgrade and starting over. > > > > Comments? > > I find the current one somewhat confusing. Here's my thoughts after a quick > perusal: > > - Put the 3.x-to-4.x instructions at the top of the file. This is what most > people will be interested in. > - Do I need to build a new kernel first or not? One of the breakage notices > implies this, but the 3.x-to-4.x instructions at the end of the file have a > buildworld before a kernel build. If I don't need to build a new kernel > first I think it should say something like "you don't need to build a new > kernel first despite what breakage 19990929 says". > - Why do I need to do 'make -DNOINFO installworld' followed immediately by > 'make installworld'? > - The wd to ad device name switch should be emphasized. > I'll second all these points. Also, ``clean'' needs removing from: cd src/usr.bin/genassym make depend all install clean cd ../../usr.sbin/config make depend all install clean because doing a ``make clean'' at this point then causes ``make installworld'' fail in those directories. The cure of course is to do a ``make all'' in those directories before ``make installworld''. Finally, is this resolved yet? This message appeared 166 times during ``make buildworld'': /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc.so.4" not found It also caused config(8) on the new kernel to fail, but ldconfig -R /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc cured that. > Jim > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Microsoft: Where do you want to go today? Linux: Where do you want to go tomorrow? BSD: Are you guys coming, or what? -Poster at LinuxWorld 2000 ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 13:11:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from goliath.siemens.de (goliath.siemens.de [194.138.37.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 805A037BAE4 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:11:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ust@cert.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: ust@cert.siemens.de (at relayer goliath.siemens.de) Received: from mail1.siemens.de (mail1.siemens.de [139.23.33.14]) by goliath.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA07447; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 22:11:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from mars.cert.siemens.de (ust.mchp.siemens.de [139.23.201.17]) by mail1.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA05770; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 22:11:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from alaska.cert.siemens.de (reims.mchp.siemens.de [139.23.202.134]) by mars.cert.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Siemens CERT [ $Revision: 1.4 ]) with ESMTP id WAA01680; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 22:11:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ust@alaska.cert.siemens.de) Received: (from ust@localhost) by alaska.cert.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/alaska [ $Revision: 1.3 ]) id VAA02422; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 21:11:16 GMT (envelope-from ust) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 22:11:16 +0100 From: Udo Schweigert To: Warner Losh Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions Message-ID: <20000315221116.A2287@alaska.cert.siemens.de> References: <20000315174557.C40984@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> <200003151903.MAA88473@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200003151903.MAA88473@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 12:03:47PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 12:03:47 -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <20000315174557.C40984@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Ruslan Ermilov writes: > : Please, people, follow the instructions given at the end of > : src/UPDATING to upgrade your system from 3.x to 4.0-STABLE. > > I'm thinking of gutting UPDATING in 4.0-stable (and 3.x stable too) > and leaving just the 3.x -> 4.0 upgrade and starting over. > > Comments? > Yes. I just did it on two machines, and if you are using vinum you have to: 1. Make a kernel with "pseudo-device vinum" in its config file (or copy vinum.ko to /modules, but I have not tested this) 2. Make /sbin/vinum in /usr/src/sbin/vinum. Otherwise you will probably get lost (I had my /usr partition on a vinum device, thus ending up with a "chicken and egg" problem). Regards -- Udo Schweigert, Siemens AG | Voice : +49 89 636 42170 ZT IK 3, Siemens CERT | Fax : +49 89 636 41166 D-81730 Muenchen / Germany | email : ust@cert.siemens.de PGP-2/5 fingerprint | D8 A5 DF 34 EC 87 E8 C6 E2 26 C4 D0 EE 80 36 B2 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 13:37:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from firewall.symark.com (firewall.symark.westlake.iswest.net [207.178.203.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308D437BD53; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:36:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ggross@symark.com) Received: (from mailer@localhost) by firewall.symark.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA04668; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:36:39 -0800 Received: from minnow.symark.com(128.1.1.70) by firewall.symark.com via smap (V2.1/2.1+anti-relay+anti-spam) id xma004663; Wed, 15 Mar 00 13:36:25 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:36:17 -0800 (PST) From: Glen Gross X-Sender: ggross@minnow To: Brad Knowles Cc: Warner Losh , Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For me the main issue is that I like my 3.4 RELEASE box so much. I don't want to risk sacrificing it in the event that the ad devices do not work as well as the wd devices currently in use. [some people have been reporting problems having their ad0 devices detected during the install.] So I decided to install 4.0 r.c. 2 on a 16MB 486 system and that has been working fine. Next I want to build a faster box especially for 4.0 instead of blow away the 3.4 installation, which has proven to be the most reliable system I've ever had. What I really meant was that I like having a "clean" install of 4.0 rather than following all the steps to upgrade. Maybe it's just laziness. Glen Gross Unix Technical Support Specialist SYMARK SOFTWARE 5716 Corsa Avenue, Suite 200 Westlake Village, CA 91362 Main: 818-865-6100 FAX: 818-889-1894 http://www.symark.com Technical Support: unix-support@symark.com On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 12:50 PM -0700 2000/3/15, Warner Losh wrote: > > > Too complicated to be worth the hassle? The few simple steps in > > UPDATING have been followed by me on several systems and work... > > What might work fine for -CURRENT users may be too complex for > people used to much more polished procedures in -STABLE. > > Unfortunately, there are *way* too many people who are ready to > jump on the .0 release, and there's not likely to be too much you can > do to protect them from blowing off their foot in this fashion. > > -- > These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy > ====================================================================== > Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV > Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 > Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels > http://www.skynet.be || Belgium > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 13:56:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C911437BD53; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:56:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from slave (doug@slave [10.0.0.1]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02062; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:56:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:56:23 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Barton X-Sender: doug@dt051n0b.san.rr.com To: Josef Karthauser Cc: Warner Losh , Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions In-Reply-To: <20000315192420.D52322@florence.pavilion.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Josef Karthauser wrote: > Sounds like a good idea to me - I'm currently upgrading a machine > from 2.2.2 to 3.4, and could have done with concise instructions. I can save you some time. That won't work. :) You have to upgrade to 2.2.8-Stable first, then upgrade to 3.2-Release, then upgrade to 3.4-Release. You can find instructions at http://freebsd.simplenet.com/make-upgrade.html. I am planning to update that file for 3.4 -> 4.0 asap BTW. Good luck, Doug -- "While the future's there for anyone to change, still you know it seems, it would be easier sometimes to change the past" - Jackson Browne, "Fountain of Sorrow" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 13:59:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E56537BD53; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:59:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA96900; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:59:40 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA89926; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:59:31 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003152159.OAA89926@harmony.village.org> To: Doug Barton Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions Cc: Josef Karthauser , Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:56:23 PST." References: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:59:31 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Doug Barton writes: : You can find instructions at : http://freebsd.simplenet.com/make-upgrade.html. I am planning to update : that file for 3.4 -> 4.0 asap BTW. Let me know if the following doesn't work: To update from 3.x to 4.0 stable -------------------------------- cd /usr/src make buildworld cd sbin/mknod make install [*] reboot cd /usr/src make -DNOINFO installworld make installworld [*] You may need to switch from wd to ad ala 19991210 To build a kernel ----------------- Update config, genassym and go: cd src/usr.bin/genassym make depend all install cd ../../usr.sbin/config make depend all install cd ../../sys/i386/conf config YOUR_KERNEL_HERE cd ../../compile/YOUR_KERNEL_HERE make depend && make make install To rebuild disk /dev entries ---------------------------- MAKEDEV should be copied from src/etc/MAKEDEV to /dev before starting the following: For N in the list of disks MAKEDEV N # eg ad0 for M in the list of slices MAKEDEV NsMa # eg ad0s1a To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 14:23:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from palrel3.hp.com (palrel3.hp.com [156.153.255.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB0A37B7E1; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:23:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel@cup.hp.com) Received: from adlmail.cup.hp.com (adlmail.cup.hp.com [15.0.100.30]) by palrel3.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D723C67; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:23:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from cup.hp.com (gauss.cup.hp.com [15.28.97.152]) by adlmail.cup.hp.com with ESMTP (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.7.3 TIS 5.0.1) id OAA05997; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:23:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38D00D51.D0781868@cup.hp.com> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:23:13 -0800 From: Marcel Moolenaar Organization: Hewlett-Packard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warner Losh Cc: Doug Barton , Josef Karthauser , Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions References: <200003152159.OAA89926@harmony.village.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Warner Losh wrote: > To update from 3.x to 4.0 stable > -------------------------------- > cd /usr/src > make buildworld > cd sbin/mknod > make install > You can make a kernel like this: cd /usr/src make buildkernel KERNEL=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE The new `buildkernel' and `installkernel' targets make use of the tools build by buildworld and effectively works around the bootstrap problem. Do they not work (the make targets, that is)? -- Marcel Moolenaar mail: marcel@cup.hp.com / marcel@FreeBSD.org tel: (408) 447-4222 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 14:26: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7916F37BDAE; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:25:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from slave (doug@slave [10.0.0.1]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02274; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:25:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:25:52 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Barton X-Sender: doug@dt051n0b.san.rr.com To: Warner Losh Cc: Josef Karthauser , Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions In-Reply-To: <200003152159.OAA89926@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > In message Doug Barton writes: > : You can find instructions at > : http://freebsd.simplenet.com/make-upgrade.html. I am planning to update > : that file for 3.4 -> 4.0 asap BTW. > > Let me know if the following doesn't work: Warner, Here's what I posted the other day, and what I planned to expand on for my new web page. I've had several positive comments on it, including a confirmation that it works for remote upgrades. This is assuming that you've done all the right things with upgrading sources, double-checked /etc/make.conf, using clean /usr/src, clean /usr/obj, etc. 1. make buildworld 2. make buildkernel I actually updated my kernel config file while world was building so I did 'make KERNEL=MYKERNELFILE buildkernel, and below, but that's not for the faint of heart. As someone already pointed out, GENERIC is a better choice, and doesn't require any options. 3. make installkernel 4. cd /usr/src/sbin/mknod && make install I had to do this or the next step didn't work. 5. cp /usr/src/etc/MAKEFILE /dev ; cd /dev ; /bin/sh MAKEFILE all 6. Update /etc/fstab and new disk devices per instructions in Updating 7. reboot 8. make -k installworld 9. make installworld 10. mergemaster 11. rebuilt my kernel (make sure to update your kernel config file) and rebooted I did one system this way feeling my way through, then did another following these instructions and didn't have any problems. I never had to go single user, although these were workstation machines. For servers you'd probably want to use /var/run/nologin, or similar. (Just make sure you open plenty of shells for yourself first. :) Doug -- "While the future's there for anyone to change, still you know it seems, it would be easier sometimes to change the past" - Jackson Browne, "Fountain of Sorrow" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 14:26:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A8A37C17C; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:26:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA97014; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:26:11 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA90110; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:26:01 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003152226.PAA90110@harmony.village.org> To: Marcel Moolenaar Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions Cc: Doug Barton , Josef Karthauser , Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:23:13 PST." <38D00D51.D0781868@cup.hp.com> References: <38D00D51.D0781868@cup.hp.com> <200003152159.OAA89926@harmony.village.org> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:26:01 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <38D00D51.D0781868@cup.hp.com> Marcel Moolenaar writes: : Warner Losh wrote: : > To update from 3.x to 4.0 stable : > -------------------------------- : > cd /usr/src : > make buildworld : > cd sbin/mknod : > make install : > : : You can make a kernel like this: : cd /usr/src : make buildkernel KERNEL=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE : : The new `buildkernel' and `installkernel' targets make use of the tools : build by buildworld and effectively works around the bootstrap problem. : Do they not work (the make targets, that is)? When I tried the installkernel it installed things as /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE I'll have to update things. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 14:42:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lyra.ci.uc.pt (lyra.ci.uc.pt [193.136.200.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB8D37C114 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:41:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pedro@qui.uc.pt) Received: from godfather.mafia.net (pm1-54.uc.pt [193.137.211.182]) by lyra.ci.uc.pt (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA14555; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 22:41:22 GMT Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <00031518095606.06447@esp.agama.com> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 22:41:29 -0000 (GMT) Reply-To: pedro@qui.uc.pt Organization: Webvolution Networks From: Pedro Almeida To: "Eugene S.Panenko" Subject: RE: MyLex DAC960 driver Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD 4.0 have support for it! On 15-Mar-2000 Eugene S.Panenko wrote: > Hi all, > > Does anybody have a driver for MyLex DAC960 RAID for -stable? > > -- > Regards, > Eugene > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ========================================================== Pedro Almeida (aka GoDfAtHeR) E-Mail: Pedro Almeida Sent on 15-Mar-2000 at 22:40:46 from godfather.mafia.net Fortune: "I must have a prodigious quantity of mind; it takes me as much as a week sometimes to make it up." -- Mark Twain, "The Innocents Abroad" PGP key available upon request ========================================================== Next 5 years holiday plan: 2000: Usenix & FreeBSD Conference 2001: Russia 2002: Australia 2003: The world 200Segmentation fault (core dumped) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 14:46:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [212.74.0.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C562A37C000; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:46:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) id WAA39296; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 22:45:57 GMT (envelope-from joe) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 22:45:57 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: Doug Barton Cc: Warner Losh , Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions Message-ID: <20000315224557.J52322@florence.pavilion.net> References: <20000315192420.D52322@florence.pavilion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 01:56:23PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: > On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Josef Karthauser wrote: > > > Sounds like a good idea to me - I'm currently upgrading a machine > > from 2.2.2 to 3.4, and could have done with concise instructions. > > I can save you some time. That won't work. :) You have to upgrade > to 2.2.8-Stable first, then upgrade to 3.2-Release, then upgrade to > 3.4-Release. > > You can find instructions at > http://freebsd.simplenet.com/make-upgrade.html. I am planning to update > that file for 3.4 -> 4.0 asap BTW. Cheers Doug, It's currently doing 2.2.8 at the moment (although it's still running a 2.2.2 kernel - I'm forcing it with a 'make -k'). [It's remote and active :(] Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: Take the red pill and we'll show you just how Technical Manager deep the rabbit hole goes. (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 16: 3:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from student-mailhub.dcu.ie (ns.dcu.ie [136.206.1.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76CDD37BB07 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 16:03:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from drjolt@redbrick.dcu.ie) Received: from enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie (postfix@enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie [136.206.15.5]) by student-mailhub.dcu.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3/893-FD) with ESMTP id AAA08163 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 00:03:48 GMT Received: by enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie (Postfix, from userid 2034) id B8C4F7C9E; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 00:02:38 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 00:02:38 +0000 From: David Murphy To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions Message-ID: <20000316000238.A1492@enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie> References: <200003151950.MAA88847@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200003151950.MAA88847@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 12:50:28PM -0700 X-no-archive: yes Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting <200003151950.MAA88847@harmony.village.org> by Warner Losh : > In message Glen Gross writes: > : I think that's a good idea... upgrading from 3.x to 4.0 is too complicated > : to be worth the hassle. The UPDATING document really doesn't make this > : clear. I have also seen many variant procedures posted on this list. > > Too complicated to be worth the hassle? The few simple steps in > UPDATING have been followed by me on several systems and work... I'm sure they do, but unfortunately, if you're like me, and try to make installworld without reading UPDATING (stupid, maybe, but there it is), you fail. They you read UPDATING, then you try to follow the instructions, which you've just become aware of, as best you can, then you find you can't do the 'configure a kernel' part, 'cos config spews error messages complaining that you're missing things like 'machine' statements in GENERIC. Then you figure you've probably just hosed your (non-critical home) machine. In summary, it's not fool-proof. It's not even fool-resistant. This is unfortunate. This is even understandable. But it's a bit of a shame. -- When asked if it is true that he uses his wheelchair as a weapon he will reply: "That's a malicious rumour. I'll run over anyone who repeats it." Stephen Hawking - [http://www.smh.com.au/news/0001/07/features/features1.html] David Murphy - For PGP public key, send mail with Subject: send-pgp-key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 17:53:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from po4.glue.umd.edu (po4.glue.umd.edu [128.8.10.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE6837BB8C; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:53:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bfoz@glue.umd.edu) Received: from glue.umd.edu (poseidon.student.umd.edu [129.2.220.99]) by po4.glue.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA15409; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 20:52:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38D03E64.3D17FC34@glue.umd.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 20:52:36 -0500 From: Brandon Fosdick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warner Losh Cc: Doug Barton , Josef Karthauser , Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions References: <200003152159.OAA89926@harmony.village.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Warner Losh wrote: > > In message Doug Barton writes: > : You can find instructions at > : http://freebsd.simplenet.com/make-upgrade.html. I am planning to update > : that file for 3.4 -> 4.0 asap BTW. > > Let me know if the following doesn't work: > To update from 3.x to 4.0 stable > -------------------------------- > cd /usr/src > make buildworld > cd sbin/mknod > make install > > [*] > reboot > > cd /usr/src > make -DNOINFO installworld > make installworld > > [*] You may need to switch from wd to ad ala 19991210 > > To build a kernel > ----------------- > Update config, genassym and go: > cd src/usr.bin/genassym > make depend all install > cd ../../usr.sbin/config > make depend all install > cd ../../sys/i386/conf > config YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > cd ../../compile/YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > make depend && make > make install > > To rebuild disk /dev entries > ---------------------------- > > MAKEDEV should be copied from src/etc/MAKEDEV to /dev before > starting the following: > > For N in the list of disks > MAKEDEV N # eg ad0 > for M in the list of slices > MAKEDEV NsMa # eg ad0s1a How to go about switching over from wd to ad needs to be explained a little better. After doing the MAKEDEV routine I went and changed all the wd's in my fstab to ad's. Boy was that a mistake. Now I have to find somthing I can boot with that will let me mount the root partition read/write so that I can change fstab back. On top of that my cdrom suddenly decided to non-bootable. Maybe I'm just having a bad day... -Brandon -- bfoz@glue.umd.edu "Lead, follow, or get run over" "In life there are those who steer, and those who push" "I'm not impatient, the world is too slow" "Life is short, so have fun, play hard, and leave a good looking corpse" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 18: 2:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from acacia.cts.ucla.edu (acacia.cts.ucla.edu [149.142.36.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B150437BAB4; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:02:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from denis@acacia.cts.ucla.edu) Received: from localhost (denis@localhost) by acacia.cts.ucla.edu (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA00529; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:05:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from denis@acacia.cts.ucla.edu) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:05:29 -0800 (PST) From: Denis DeLaRoca To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: libc.so.4 for 3.4-STABLE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: shared object libc.so.4 not found > > > > how do I go about fixing this? > > Looks like you did something weird: this version of the library is found > in FreeBSD 4.x, not 3.x. If you built X on a 3.x system (and it previously > worked there) it never should be looking for libc.so.4. All I did was do a network upgrade to the 3.4-20000311-STABLE snapshot... from what you are saying the X11 3.3.6 binaries included in the snapshot was built perhaps under FBSD 4.x? I was trying to avoid compiling by upgrading via the snapshot. -- Denis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 18:20:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 254A037BB51; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:20:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA26825; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:20:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:20:08 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: Denis DeLaRoca Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: libc.so.4 for 3.4-STABLE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Denis DeLaRoca wrote: > All I did was do a network upgrade to the 3.4-20000311-STABLE snapshot... > from what you are saying the X11 3.3.6 binaries included in the snapshot > was built perhaps under FBSD 4.x? I was trying to avoid compiling by > upgrading via the snapshot. If that was the case it would certainly explain the libc error. I don't know why it would be or if there's some other explanation, though :( Perhaps try another snapshot? Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 18:57:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from firehouse.net (networkoperations.com [209.42.203.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0763A37BB40 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:57:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abc@bsdi.com) Received: (qmail 27209 invoked by uid 100); 16 Mar 2000 02:57:25 -0000 Date: 16 Mar 2000 02:57:25 -0000 Message-ID: <20000316025725.27208.qmail@firehouse.net> From: "Alan Clegg" X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Denis DeLaRoca , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, abc@ecto.greenpeas.org Subject: Re: libc.so.4 for 3.4-STABLE In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:20:08 PST." Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > All I did was do a network upgrade to the 3.4-20000311-STABLE snapshot... > > from what you are saying the X11 3.3.6 binaries included in the snapshot > > was built perhaps under FBSD 4.x? I was trying to avoid compiling by > > upgrading via the snapshot. With a current (today) cvsup, I'm getting the same thing: --SNIP-- install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 444 libcom_err.so.2 /usr/lib /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc.so.4" not found *** Error code 70 Stop. *** Error code 1 --SNIP-- I'll be debugging this, but this is not a "gee, you did something stupid" type error. This upgrade was from a clean 3.3 install (fresh from the CD) and from a source tree built on another system (my 4.0-STABLE system that compiles and installs just fine). One note is that the source tree (/usr/src, and /usr/obj) are NFS mounted. AlanC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 19:19: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from firehouse.net (networkoperations.com [209.42.203.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F66337BA56 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 19:19:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abc@bsdi.com) Received: (qmail 27612 invoked by uid 100); 16 Mar 2000 03:19:01 -0000 Date: 16 Mar 2000 03:19:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20000316031901.27611.qmail@firehouse.net> From: "Alan Clegg" X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: libc.so.4 for 3.4-STABLE In-reply-to: Your message of "16 Mar 2000 02:57:25 GMT." <20000316025725.27208.qmail@firehouse.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 444 libcom_err.so.2 /usr/lib > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc.so.4" not found > *** Error code 70 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 at this point: cd lib; make install; cd ..; make installworld A bit of replication (all of the libraries), but it seems to have me going. AlanC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 19:37:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from napalm.plano.sterling.com (napalm.plano.sterling.com [138.42.1.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 662BF37BB12; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 19:37:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alan.edmonds@sterling.com) Received: from sterling.com (ras-0011.plano.sterling.com [10.1.48.120]) by napalm.plano.sterling.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA28595; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 21:37:06 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <38D056D0.A10766A0@sterling.com> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 21:36:48 -0600 From: Alan Edmonds X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Clegg Cc: Kris Kennaway , Denis DeLaRoca , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, abc@ecto.greenpeas.org Subject: Re: libc.so.4 for 3.4-STABLE References: <20000316025725.27208.qmail@firehouse.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't usually had LD_LIBRARY_PATH set. I just set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc and reran the make buildworld. It seemed to fix the libc.so.4 errors when building the new kernel. Good luck. -- Alan Edmonds, KB5ZUY Sterling Software M/S 132 Phone: +1-972-801-6485 5800 Tennyson Pkwy. Email: alan.edmonds@sterling.com Plano, TX, USA 75024 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 22:43:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B86037BCCC for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 22:43:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA07420; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 22:43:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <38D08286.A928F803@gorean.org> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 22:43:18 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0313 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Robert E. Lee" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Robert E. Lee" wrote: > > I recently did a cvsup with the 4.x src (RELENG_4), which works with no > problems. However, when attempting a 'make buildworld' I see this error > message (after several minutes of compiling): > /usr/src/usr.sbin/ppp/chap_ms.c:29: openssl/des.h: No such file or > directory > mkdep: compile failed > > Has anyone else seen/heard of this issue? Yes. If you don't have the crypto sources (and it seems you do not) you need to specify NO_OPENSSL and NO_OPENSSH in your make.conf file. Doug -- "While the future's there for anyone to change, still you know it seems, it would be easier sometimes to change the past" - Jackson Browne, "Fountain of Sorrow" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 23:31:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (UCB-Async4-CRISCO.CRIS.NET [212.110.129.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14CD337B6CE for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 23:31:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id JAA41656; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 09:26:30 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 09:26:30 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Warner Losh Cc: Marcel Moolenaar , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions Message-ID: <20000316092630.A40068@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Warner Losh , Marcel Moolenaar , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <38D00D51.D0781868@cup.hp.com> <200003152159.OAA89926@harmony.village.org> <38D00D51.D0781868@cup.hp.com> <200003152226.PAA90110@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <200003152226.PAA90110@harmony.village.org>; from Warner Losh on Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 03:26:01PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 03:26:01PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <38D00D51.D0781868@cup.hp.com> Marcel Moolenaar writes: > : Warner Losh wrote: > : > To update from 3.x to 4.0 stable > : > -------------------------------- > : > cd /usr/src > : > make buildworld > : > cd sbin/mknod > : > make install > : > > : > : You can make a kernel like this: > : cd /usr/src > : make buildkernel KERNEL=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > : > : The new `buildkernel' and `installkernel' targets make use of the tools > : build by buildworld and effectively works around the bootstrap problem. > : Do they not work (the make targets, that is)? > > When I tried the installkernel it installed things as /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > > I'll have to update things. > Yes, but it is much easier to point this out, rather than make users recompile their kernel with the following procedure: : To build a kernel : ----------------- : Update config, genassym and go: : cd src/usr.bin/genassym : make depend all install : cd ../../usr.sbin/config : make depend all install : cd ../../sys/i386/conf : config YOUR_KERNEL_HERE : cd ../../compile/YOUR_KERNEL_HERE : make depend && make : make install The simplest thing is to `cd /usr/src; make buildkernel installkernel'. This will build and install /kernel.GENERIC, and users should try it out first. After successful boot, they just go to /sys/arch/conf, and compile their favourite kernel the usual suspects. -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 15 23:34:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (UCB-Async4-CRISCO.CRIS.NET [212.110.129.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71B937B9FD for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 23:34:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id JAA44567; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 09:34:00 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 09:33:59 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Alan Edmonds Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions Message-ID: <20000316093359.B40068@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Alan Edmonds , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <38CFEB3B.B8973A6D@sterling.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <38CFEB3B.B8973A6D@sterling.com>; from Alan Edmonds on Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 01:57:47PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 01:57:47PM -0600, Alan Edmonds wrote: > One comment regarding the UPGRADE instructions. > > In the build kernel section, it specifies to > > ... > cd usr/usr.bin/genassym > make depend all install clean > cd ../../usr.sbin/config > make depend all install clean > ... > > In the main instructions, after you reboot in > single user mode, you > > cd /usr/src > make -DNOINFO installworld > > But, this will fail trying to install genassym (since it's been cleaned). > > I would suggest removing the "clean" target from the build kernel instruction > section. > I would suggest using specially designed buildkernel/installkernel targets. -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 0: 5:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C57937BD85; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 00:05:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA67467; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 00:05:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 00:05:35 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: Doug Barton Cc: "Robert E. Lee" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.0 In-Reply-To: <38D08286.A928F803@gorean.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Doug Barton wrote: > "Robert E. Lee" wrote: > > > > I recently did a cvsup with the 4.x src (RELENG_4), which works with no > > problems. However, when attempting a 'make buildworld' I see this error > > message (after several minutes of compiling): > > /usr/src/usr.sbin/ppp/chap_ms.c:29: openssl/des.h: No such file or > > directory > > mkdep: compile failed > > > > Has anyone else seen/heard of this issue? > > Yes. If you don't have the crypto sources (and it seems you do not) you > need to specify NO_OPENSSL and NO_OPENSSH in your make.conf file. Actually you shouldn't need this - I've got one fix I forgot to MFC which I'll be committing shortly, but it's for tcpdump, not ppp :) Can you tell me more about your setup - do you in fact have the crypto/ and secure/ source directories, and are you building world with any flags (e.g. -DNOCRYPT)? Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 0:12:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ZGIA.zp.ua (ZGIA.zp.ua [212.35.173.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF4F37B7EF for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 00:11:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from laa@zgia.zp.ua) Received: from localhost (laa@localhost) by ZGIA.zp.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17084; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 10:08:10 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from laa@zgia.zp.ua) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 10:08:10 +0200 (EET) From: Alexandr Listopad To: Warner Losh Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions In-Reply-To: <200003152159.OAA89926@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I upgrade my 3.1 box to 4.0-s this morning, works fine! > >Let me know if the following doesn't work: > To update from 3.x to 4.0 stable > -------------------------------- > cd /usr/src > make buildworld > cd sbin/mknod > make install > > [*] > reboot > > cd /usr/src > make -DNOINFO installworld > make installworld > > [*] You may need to switch from wd to ad ala 19991210 > > To build a kernel > ----------------- > Update config, genassym and go: > cd src/usr.bin/genassym > make depend all install > cd ../../usr.sbin/config > make depend all install > cd ../../sys/i386/conf > config YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > cd ../../compile/YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > make depend && make > make install > > To rebuild disk /dev entries > ---------------------------- > > MAKEDEV should be copied from src/etc/MAKEDEV to /dev before > starting the following: > > For N in the list of disks > MAKEDEV N # eg ad0 > for M in the list of slices > MAKEDEV NsMa # eg ad0s1a > > -- Laa. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 0:27:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dream.mplik.ru (dream.mplik.ru [195.58.1.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 500A737B82D for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 00:27:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sg@ur.ru) Received: from sight.mplik.net (sight.mplik.ru [195.58.27.104]) by dream.mplik.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA40818 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:27:05 +0500 (YEKT) (envelope-from sg@ur.ru) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:20:18 +0500 From: Sergey Gershtein X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.39) Educational Reply-To: Sergey Gershtein Organization: Ural Relcom Ltd X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <14555.000316@ur.ru> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: make buildworld failed for 3.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I tried to upgrade 3.3 to 3.4 on Tuesday, but make buildworld failed. I re-cvsupped (RELENG_3) and tried again, but got the same result. The problem was with kdump (see make output below). I remember that some time ago I already saw the same error on another machine and worked it around by commenting out ktrace and kdump (and probebly something else) from /usr/src/usr.bin/Makefile. After buildworld and installworld I restored the Makefile and did another buildworld, which finished ok. Sure, I can try to do it again, but the question is -- why it is so? Thanks, Sergey Gershtein ---------------------- here's the make output ------------------------ ===> usr.bin/kdump cc -O6 -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../ktrace -I/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../.. -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/kdump.c /bin/sh /usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/mkioctls > ioctl.c In file included from :10: /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/ctau.h:14: warning: `NCHAN' redefined /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/csigma.h:307: warning: this is the location of the previous definition In file included from :51: /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/sys/memrange.h:16: warning: `MDF_ACTIVE' redefined /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/pccard/cardinfo.h:77: warning: this is the location of the previous definition cc -O6 -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../ktrace -I/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../.. -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c ioctl.c In file included from ioctl.c:39: /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/ctau.h:14: warning: `NCHAN' redefined /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/csigma.h:307: warning: this is the location of the previous definition In file included from ioctl.c:80: /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/sys/memrange.h:16: warning: `MDF_ACTIVE' redefined /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/pccard/cardinfo.h:77: warning: this is the location of the previous definition In file included from ioctl.c:38: /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/csigma.h:63: conflicting types for `cx_cor1_async_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/cronyx.h:56: previous declaration of `cx_cor1_async_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/csigma.h:74: conflicting types for `cx_cor2_async_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/cronyx.h:67: previous declaration of `cx_cor2_async_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/csigma.h:83: conflicting types for `cx_cor3_async_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/cronyx.h:76: previous declaration of `cx_cor3_async_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/csigma.h:91: conflicting types for `cx_cor6_async_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/cronyx.h:84: previous declaration of `cx_cor6_async_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/csigma.h:100: conflicting types for `cx_cor7_async_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/cronyx.h:93: previous declaration of `cx_cor7_async_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/csigma.h:115: conflicting types for `cx_opt_async_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/cronyx.h:108: previous declaration of `cx_opt_async_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/csigma.h:162: conflicting types for `cx_cor1_hdlc_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/cronyx.h:155: previous declaration of `cx_cor1_hdlc_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/csigma.h:173: conflicting types for `cx_cor2_hdlc_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/cronyx.h:166: previous declaration of `cx_cor2_hdlc_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/csigma.h:182: conflicting types for `cx_cor3_hdlc_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/cronyx.h:175: previous declaration of `cx_cor3_hdlc_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/csigma.h:193: conflicting types for `cx_opt_hdlc_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/cronyx.h:186: previous declaration of `cx_opt_hdlc_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/csigma.h:238: conflicting types for `cx_cor4_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/cronyx.h:320: previous declaration of `cx_cor4_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/csigma.h:246: conflicting types for `cx_cor5_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/cronyx.h:328: previous declaration of `cx_cor5_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/csigma.h:254: conflicting types for `cx_rcor_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/cronyx.h:336: previous declaration of `cx_rcor_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/csigma.h:263: conflicting types for `cx_tcor_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/cronyx.h:345: previous declaration of `cx_tcor_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/csigma.h:270: conflicting types for `cx_chan_opt_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/cronyx.h:352: previous declaration of `cx_chan_opt_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/csigma.h:273: conflicting types for `BRK_IDLE' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/cronyx.h:355: previous declaration of `BRK_IDLE' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/csigma.h:274: conflicting types for `BRK_SEND' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/cronyx.h:356: previous declaration of `BRK_SEND' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/csigma.h:275: conflicting types for `BRK_STOP' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/cronyx.h:358: previous declaration of `BRK_STOP' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/csigma.h:276: redefinition of `cx_break_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/cronyx.h:358: `cx_break_t' previously declared here /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/csigma.h:295: conflicting types for `cx_soft_opt_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/cronyx.h:366: previous declaration of `cx_soft_opt_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/csigma.h:334: conflicting types for `cx_options_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/cronyx.h:386: previous declaration of `cx_options_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/csigma.h:409: conflicting types for `cx_chan_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/cronyx.h:423: previous declaration of `cx_chan_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/csigma.h:416: conflicting types for `cx_chip_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/cronyx.h:430: previous declaration of `cx_chip_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/csigma.h:431: conflicting types for `cx_stat_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/cronyx.h:444: previous declaration of `cx_stat_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/csigma.h:470: conflicting types for `cx_board_t' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/machine/cronyx.h:464: previous declaration of `cx_board_t' *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 0:39:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CF437BD76 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 00:39:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12VVo9-000GTV-00; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 10:39:05 +0200 Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 10:39:05 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Peter Radcliffe Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Version of stable? Message-ID: <20000316103905.B62965@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <20000313200537.A9063@silver.komanda.com.ua> <20000313105349.Z14279@fw.wintelcom.net> <20000313212215.A9620@silver.komanda.com.ua> <20000313121936.B14279@fw.wintelcom.net> <20000313164431.F16460@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <20000313164431.F16460@pir.net> Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon 2000-03-13 (16:44), Peter Radcliffe wrote: > Alfred Perlstein probably said: > > to cc the person you're replying to otherwise, it makes it > > a bit difficult to reply to you. (at least for me) > > Erm, no. > > Some people (like me) do _not_ like being Cc:ed on list mail. That's not intuitive. Either put a message in your mail and have people ignore it, or set Reply-To: to the mailing list. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 1:44:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.webmaster.com (mail.webmaster.com [209.133.28.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10C3437C00B; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 01:44:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from davids@webmaster.com) Received: from whenever ([209.133.29.2]) by shell.webmaster.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 01:44:50 -0800 From: "David Schwartz" To: "Kris Kennaway" Cc: Subject: RE: Upgrading 3.x -> 4.0 STABLE unneccessarily hard Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 01:44:50 -0800 Message-ID: <005101bf8f2c$462e5dc0$021d85d1@youwant.to> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Strange. It was a RELENG_3 from just a month or so ago. I wish I'd kept my old libc.a and analyzed it more closely. My recollection was that I did an 'nm' on the libc.a installed and it didn't have 'asprintf' in it and then I did one for the temporary libc.a and it did. So I copied the temporary over the normal libc.a and then it worked. But perhaps I didn't look closely enough. Perhaps a typo in my grep made me thing it didn't have one, but the error was definitely that the symbol 'asprintf' wasn't found. Well, if nobody else reports it, chalk it up to cosmic rays. :) DS > On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, David Schwartz wrote: > > > Upgrading 3.x->4.0 STABLE was made harder than it had to be > because one > > program that is statically linked (objcopy or objdump or something like > > that) was trying to statically link to the system libc.a instead of the > > temporary libc.a. The system libc.a may not have 'asprintf' in > it, bombing > > the make. > > I haven't heard of anyone experiencing this failure mode before. What > value of 'x' do you have? asprintf has been in libc since 1996: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 3:48:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from account.abs.net (account.abs.net [207.114.5.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E29737B5B2; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 03:48:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from howardl@account.abs.net) Received: (from howardl@localhost) by account.abs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3+RBL+DUL+RSS+ORBS) id GAA58010; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 06:48:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from howardl) From: Howard Leadmon Message-Id: <200003161148.GAA58010@account.abs.net> Subject: Trouble with updating from 4.0-CURRENT to RELEASE on Alpha.. To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 06:48:36 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL72 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Not really sure where to start, but here goes. I have several DEC PC164SX machines running FreeBSD-Current, and my last cvsup was like Feb 28. While I had the chance yesterday I decided to change my cvs tag to RELENG_4 and bring things up to release. All seemed simple enough as I have sup'ed this box many times in the past with no problems. So I ran the sup's and then built a new kernel, as well as did a make world to make sure everything was at the release level. That all went fine, then I rebooted, and many things just were not working right. I can get on the console, but not remotely and things like sendmail and procmail processes all seemed to be hanging. I then thought maybe I should build a new kernel after the installworld, so went to try that. To my surprise I got the errors I'll include below. I then also just tried to do another buildworld, and that also blew up (errors below). As I mentioned, I was just trying to sup from Feb 28 to RELEASE, not all that far of a jump. Finally I took another Alpha I had sitting around, I think it's last sup was like Feb 21, and tried to upgrade it to RELEASE. Again that machine is now in total shambles and basically unusable unless I reload from scratch. Heck I even tried running an rm -rf on one of them under the /usr/src dir and grabbing a fresh cvs tree, but still can't compile. Any ideas how to fix this, or to get to 4.0 RELEASE on my other alphas do I have to do a clean reload?? MAKE KERNEL DEPEND: cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mno-fp-regs -Wa,-mev56 ../../alpha/alpha/genassym.c In file included from ../../alpha/alpha/genassym.c:43: ../../sys/systm.h:331: invalid #-line In file included from ../../alpha/alpha/genassym.c:45, from ../../alpha/alpha/genassym.c:43: ../../sys/proc.h:47: invalid #-line In file included from ../../sys/signal.h:245, from ../../sys/proc.h:50, from ../../alpha/alpha/genassym.c:43: ../../sys/ucontext.h:34: invalid #-line ../../alpha/alpha/genassym.c:44: #-lines for entering and leaving files don't match In file included from ../../alpha/alpha/genassym.c:50: ../../sys/socket.h:232: invalid #-line In file included from ../../alpha/alpha/genassym.c:51: ../../sys/resource.h:101: invalid #-line ../../sys/resource.h:123: invalid #-line In file included from ../../alpha/alpha/genassym.c:52: ../../sys/resourcevar.h:98: invalid #-line In file included from ../../alpha/alpha/genassym.c:59, from ../../alpha/alpha/genassym.c:52: ../../vm/vm_map.h:380: invalid #-line In file included from from from from ../../netinet6/in6.h:453: invalid #-line In file included from from from ../../nfs/nfs.h:728: invalid #-line *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/U3. MAKE BUILDWORLD: -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree -------------------------------------------------------------- rm -rf /usr/obj/usr/src/alpha mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/bin mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/lib/compat/aout mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/games mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/libdata/ldscripts mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/libexec/elf mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/sbin mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/share/misc mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include/arpa mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include/g++/std mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include/objc mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include/protocols mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include/readline mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include/rpc mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include/rpcsvc mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include/openssl mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include/security mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include/ss ln -sf /usr/src/sys /usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/sys -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/alpha DESTDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/alpha INSTALL="sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh" MACHINE_ARCH=alpha TOOLS_PREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/alpha PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin make -f Makefile.inc1 -DNOMAN -DNOINFO -DNOHTML bootstrap-tools cd /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile; make obj; make depend; make all; make install /usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/src/games/fortune/strfile created for /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile/strfile.c cd /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile; make _EXTRADEPEND echo strfile: /usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/lib/libc.a >> .depend cc -O2 -pipe -Wall -I/usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include -c /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile/strfile.c In file included from /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile/strfile.c:56: /usr/include/stdlib.h:182: invalid #-line In file included from /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile/strfile.c:58, from /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile/strfile.c:56: /usr/include/string.h:98: invalid #-line *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. As you can see they are dead, and I am at a loss as to why, but this happened exactly the same to two Alpha 164SX machine when I tried to go to RELEASE.. :( --- Howard Leadmon - howardl@abs.net - http://www.abs.net ABSnet Internet Services - Phone: 410-361-8160 - FAX: 410-361-8162 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 5:33: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wodc7-1.relay.mail.uu.net (wodc7-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4E737B769 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 05:33:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from boyd@vacationclub.com) Received: from mcnc-mdm1-ex07.marriott.com by wodc7mr0.ffx.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: host036.marriott.com [162.130.1.36]) id QQigtq23475 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:33:01 GMT Received: from oberon.vacationclub.com (172.16.24.79 [172.16.24.79]) by mcnc-mdm1-ex07.marriott.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id G7K75P1D; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 08:32:50 -0500 Received: (from boyd@localhost) by oberon.vacationclub.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA89263; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 08:32:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from boyd) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 08:32:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200003161332.IAA89263@oberon.vacationclub.com> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions In-Reply-To: References: From: Daniel Boyd Reply-To: Daniel Boyd Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Glen Gross writes: > For me the main issue is that I like my 3.4 RELEASE box so much. I don't > want to risk sacrificing it in the event that the ad devices do not work > as well as the wd devices currently in use. [some people have been > reporting problems having their ad0 devices detected during the install.] You don't need to buy another whole system if you can put another hard drive in there. I had an extra 2GB free as wd0s3, so I did my 4.0-CURRENT install there on wd0s3[a-e]. This saved me when I later forgot to run single-user for installworld of the "3.3-STABLE" to "4.0-CURRENT" upgrade on the regular wd0s1 partition -- I was able to boot to the new system partition, mount the old filesystems under /mnt, and do another "make installworld" with DESTDIR=/mnt. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 5:41:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cutter.wantabe.com (cutter.wantabe.com [209.16.8.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F73437B6D2 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 05:41:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeffrl@wantabe.com) Received: from cutter.wantabe.com (cutter.wantabe.com [209.16.8.8]) by cutter.wantabe.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA41527; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 07:40:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 07:40:56 -0600 (CST) From: "Jeffrey J. Libman" To: Daniel Boyd Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions In-Reply-To: <200003161332.IAA89263@oberon.vacationclub.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG interesting. i have managed to do my "make installworld" updates on 3.4 without dropping to single user in the past. i know this is often ill-advised...but i seem to get away with it. is this not possible in future releases? or is this only super critical with the 3.4->4.0 upgrade? thanks in advance. cheers, jeff -- | |\ +------------------------------+ Jeffrey J. Libman, ops. mgr. | \ | Wantabe Internet Services | Wantabe, Inc. |__\ +------------------------------+ jeffrl@wantabe.com <-----|------> | access web cgi ftp news mail | (281) 493-0718 __,.-=\'`^`'~=-../__,.-= +------------------------------+ On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Daniel Boyd wrote: > Glen Gross writes: > > For me the main issue is that I like my 3.4 RELEASE box so much. I don't > > want to risk sacrificing it in the event that the ad devices do not work > > as well as the wd devices currently in use. [some people have been > > reporting problems having their ad0 devices detected during the install.] > > You don't need to buy another whole system if you can put another hard > drive in there. > > I had an extra 2GB free as wd0s3, so I did my 4.0-CURRENT install > there on wd0s3[a-e]. This saved me when I later forgot to run > single-user for installworld of the "3.3-STABLE" to "4.0-CURRENT" > upgrade on the regular wd0s1 partition -- I was able to boot to the > new system partition, mount the old filesystems under /mnt, and do > another "make installworld" with DESTDIR=/mnt. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 6:21:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from postfix3.free.fr (postfix3.free.fr [212.27.32.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A44237BA01 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 06:21:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jaco@titine.fr.eu.org) Received: from titine.fr.eu.org (velizy-27-240.dial.proxad.net [213.228.27.240]) by postfix3.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2249E86FEC; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:21:41 +0100 (CET) Received: by titine.fr.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A824F14D6A; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:20:21 +0100 (CET) To: "David" Cc: Subject: Re: ep0 question References: <000f01bf8ebf$d9d00690$0201a8c0@DAVID> From: Eric Jacoboni Date: 16 Mar 2000 15:20:21 +0100 In-Reply-To: "David"'s message of "Wed, 15 Mar 2000 22:48:36 +0200" Message-ID: <87r9dbro7u.fsf@titine.fr.eu.org> Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) XEmacs/21.1 (Bryce Canyon) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "David" writes: > could just > device ep > in the kernel config file work now with RELENG_4 ? That's what i use... and dmesg gives : ep0: <3Com 3C509B-TPO EtherLink III (PnP)> at port 0x210-0x21f irq 9 on isa0 ep0: Ethernet address 00:20:af:c4:92:fc All runs ok. -- --------------------------------------------------------- Éric Jacoboni « No sport, cigars! » (W. Churchill) --------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 6:23:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.uned.es (mail.uned.es [193.146.241.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1394337B853 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 06:23:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vjori@csi.uned.es) Received: from csi.uned.es (makidos.csi.uned.es [10.194.1.159]) by mail.uned.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18473 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:23:29 +0100 Message-ID: <38D0EEF7.81E8FE4A@csi.uned.es> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:26:00 +0100 From: Victor Jori Ramirez X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG unsubscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 7: 1:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from numeri.campus.luth.se (numeri.campus.luth.se [130.240.197.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B07A37BA3C for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 07:01:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from k@numeri.campus.luth.se) Received: from numeri.campus.luth.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by numeri.campus.luth.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA61427 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:05:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from k@numeri.campus.luth.se) Message-Id: <200003161505.QAA61427@numeri.campus.luth.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: "No /boot/loader" or "Invalid format" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:05:12 +0100 From: Johan Karlsson Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I'm trying to run both WinNT and FreeBSD 3.4 on a computer with 20GB IDE disk. The disk is divided into two partitions 1st: 8GB NTFS 2nd: rest FreeBSD According to the BIOS LBA mode is enabled. Install seems to work correctly but when I reboot the machine after insta= ll I get =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D F1 ??? F2 FreeBSD Default: F2 Disk error 0x1 (lba=3D0x105093c) No /boot/loader >> FreeBSD/i386 BOOT Deafault: 0:wd(0,a)/kernel boot: Disk error 0x1 (lba=3D0xff16ac) Invalid format >> FreeBSD/i386 BOOT Deafault: 0:wd(0,a)/kernel boot: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Any suggestion on how to solve this is truely welcome /Johan K To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 7: 4:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from techpower.net (techpower.net [205.133.231.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336D637C0BA for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 07:04:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hometeam@techpower.net) Received: from localhost (hometeam@localhost) by techpower.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01575; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 10:11:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from hometeam@techpower.net) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 10:11:05 -0500 (EST) From: hometeam To: Daniel Boyd Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions In-Reply-To: <200003161332.IAA89263@oberon.vacationclub.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Problem with the ad driver is a big issue ..I for one did an upgrade on one system...No problems till reboot , would not detect the ad0 device Stable is not the word for 4.0...Someone jump the gun on this one.. Also multiport option .. I tryed on another system same as my 3.4 stable ...Which worked fine on 3.4..I looked and found no issues with multiport option... On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Daniel Boyd wrote: > Glen Gross writes: > > For me the main issue is that I like my 3.4 RELEASE box so much. I don't > > want to risk sacrificing it in the event that the ad devices do not work > > as well as the wd devices currently in use. [some people have been > > reporting problems having their ad0 devices detected during the install.] > > You don't need to buy another whole system if you can put another hard > drive in there. > > I had an extra 2GB free as wd0s3, so I did my 4.0-CURRENT install > there on wd0s3[a-e]. This saved me when I later forgot to run > single-user for installworld of the "3.3-STABLE" to "4.0-CURRENT" > upgrade on the regular wd0s1 partition -- I was able to boot to the > new system partition, mount the old filesystems under /mnt, and do > another "make installworld" with DESTDIR=/mnt. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 7:14: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from evil.2y.net (ztown2-1-234.adsl.one.net [207.78.253.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8605837BF74 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 07:14:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cokane@evil.2y.net) Received: (from cokane@localhost) by evil.2y.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA03039 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 10:18:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cokane) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 10:18:24 -0500 From: Coleman Kane To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Patch to fix K6-2 MTRR code Message-ID: <20000316101824.A2979@evil.2y.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="R3G7APHDIzY6R/pk" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i X-Vim: vim:tw=70:ts=4:sw=4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --R3G7APHDIzY6R/pk Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs" --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Here's a public patch for all of you to test who have FreeBSD and a CXT core K6-2. It fixes the previously broken MTRR code written for the k6-2. Run patch -p0 < k6_mem.c.diff from your /usr/src directory. You will also have to uncomment the k6_mem.c line on or about line 88 in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/files.i386. --cokane --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="k6_mem.c.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- sys/i386/i386/k6_mem.c Wed Mar 15 01:47:44 2000 +++ sys/i386/i386/k6_mem.c Thu Mar 16 10:04:43 2000 @@ -27,6 +27,19 @@ * */ =20 +/* Changed by Coleman Kane, 15 March 2000 + + In function k6_mrmake, the mask created was being "grown" the wrong + way. Basically, the 0th bit was always left set, and the zeros were + being inserted from the top, rather than the canonical bottom of the + uint32. This code: len |=3D 1 << (14 - bit); was changed to: len |=3D 1 + << bit. e.g.: Old code read len of 0x80000 to be 0x1fff, rather than + 0x7ffc. Also, I removed the check for if both the WC and UC were set. + WC being set is basically an extension of UC-ness, so it implies UC. If + they are both set, the spec says the processor defaults to UC, rather + than WC. + +*/ #include #include #include @@ -42,7 +55,7 @@ * 15 having the mask, the 1st bit being "write-combining" and the 0th bit * being "uncacheable". * - * Address Mask WC UC + * Address Mask WC UC * | XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX | XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX | X | X | * * There are two of these in the 64-bit UWCCR. @@ -56,6 +69,9 @@ =20 #define UWCCR 0xc0000085 =20 +/* Listed for K6 models 6-7, k6-2 model 8 stepping 0-7 Write Allocation +#define WHCR 0xc0000082 - Not used yet*/ + #define k6_reg_get(reg, addr, mask, wc, uc) do { \ addr =3D (reg) & 0xfffe0000; \ mask =3D ((reg) & 0x1fffc) >> 2; \ @@ -84,17 +100,29 @@ =20 if (desc->mr_base &~ 0xfffe0000) return EINVAL; - if (desc->mr_len < 131072 || !powerof2(desc->mr_len)) + if (desc->mr_len < 131072 || (!powerof2(desc->mr_len))) return EINVAL; - if (desc->mr_flags &~ (MDF_WRITECOMBINE|MDF_UNCACHEABLE)) - return EOPNOTSUPP; +/* Changed by Coleman Kane 15 Mar 2000 */=09 + /* WC implies UC */ + /*if (desc->mr_flags &~ (MDF_WRITECOMBINE|MDF_UNCACHEABLE)) + return EOPNOTSUPP; */ =20 for (bit =3D ffs(desc->mr_len >> 17) - 1; bit < 15; bit++) - len |=3D 1 << (14 - bit);=20 + len |=3D 1 << bit;=20 +/**********************************/ wc =3D (desc->mr_flags & MDF_WRITECOMBINE) ? 1 : 0; uc =3D (desc->mr_flags & MDF_UNCACHEABLE) ? 1 : 0; - +#if 0 +/* For Debugging Purposes */ + printf("K6MTRR: At %x", desc->mr_base); + printf(" mask %x", len); + printf(" wc %d", wc); + printf(" uc %d\n", uc); +#endif *mtrr =3D k6_reg_make(desc->mr_base, len, wc, uc); +#if 0 + printf("K6MTRR: %x\n", *mtrr); +#endif return 0; } =20 --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs-- --R3G7APHDIzY6R/pk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE40Ps/ERViMObJ880RARWNAJ442mznAWoPJ/4dQS6tpj8212px0wCdFg6R dTnw/8dET+JX2ZXtJAfX138= =t4RW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --R3G7APHDIzY6R/pk-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 7:36:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ramstind.gtf.ol.no (ramstind.gtf.ol.no [128.39.174.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF6337B82A for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 07:36:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by ramstind.gtf.ol.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03774; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:36:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:36:16 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= To: Johan Karlsson Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "No /boot/loader" or "Invalid format" In-Reply-To: <200003161505.QAA61427@numeri.campus.luth.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Johan Karlsson wrote: > The disk is divided into two partitions > 1st: 8GB NTFS > 2nd: rest FreeBSD This is your problem. Due to BIOS limitations you can only boot off the first 8 GB. Your NTFS partition occupies all space that the BIOS can address during boot. Reduce your NTFS partition, remove your FreeBSD slice and reinstall FreeBSD. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Trond Endrestøl | trond@gtf.ol.no Merkantilvegen 59HB7, | trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no N-2815 GJØVIK, NORWAY |+47 61139424 || +47 63874242 Patron of The Art of Computer Programming| FreeBSD 3.4 & Pine 4.21 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 7:40: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B69437BC19 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 07:39:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 12VcNJ-0001Gw-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 10:39:49 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 10:39:48 -0500 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Version of stable? Message-ID: <20000316103948.A4842@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000313200537.A9063@silver.komanda.com.ua> <20000313105349.Z14279@fw.wintelcom.net> <20000313212215.A9620@silver.komanda.com.ua> <20000313121936.B14279@fw.wintelcom.net> <20000313164431.F16460@pir.net> <20000316103905.B62965@mithrandr.moria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000316103905.B62965@mithrandr.moria.org>; from nbm@mithrandr.moria.org on Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 10:39:05AM +0200 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Neil Blakey-Milner probably said: > Either put a message in your mail and have people ignore it, or > set Reply-To: to the mailing list. I already do both (a header rather than something in the body, though). P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 8:49:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from numeri.campus.luth.se (numeri.campus.luth.se [130.240.197.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B809837BBF1 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 08:49:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from k@numeri.campus.luth.se) Received: from numeri.campus.luth.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by numeri.campus.luth.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA62158; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 17:52:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from k@numeri.campus.luth.se) Message-Id: <200003161652.RAA62158@numeri.campus.luth.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "No /boot/loader" or "Invalid format" In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:36:16 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 17:52:36 +0100 From: Johan Karlsson Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:36:16 +0100, =3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=3DF8l?= =3D wrote: >On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Johan Karlsson wrote: > >> The disk is divided into two partitions >> 1st: 8GB NTFS >> 2nd: rest FreeBSD >This is your problem. > >Due to BIOS limitations you can only boot off the first 8 GB. Your >NTFS partition occupies all space that the BIOS can address during >boot. Reduce your NTFS partition, remove your FreeBSD slice and >reinstall FreeBSD. Thanks. I have had succes with Win partitions of size 2-4 GB and could not see an= y = other limit then the 504MB limit in the handbook (which I know does not a= pply). Where can I find docs on / how can I calculate the 8GB limit? /Johan K > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Trond Endrest=F8l | trond@gtf.ol.no= >Merkantilvegen 59HB7, | trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no >N-2815 GJ=D8VIK, NORWAY |+47 61139424 || +47 63874242= >Patron of The Art of Computer Programming| FreeBSD 3.4 & Pine 4.21 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 10:22:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from math.uic.edu (galois.math.uic.edu [131.193.178.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6685437BC93 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 10:22:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vladimir-bsd-stable@math.uic.edu) Received: (qmail 15900 invoked by uid 31415); 16 Mar 2000 18:22:34 -0000 Date: 16 Mar 2000 18:22:34 -0000 Message-ID: <20000316182234.15899.qmail@math.uic.edu> From: vladimir-bsd-stable@math.uic.edu To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: rpc.lockd in 4.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What's the current status of rpc.lockd in 4.0-RELEASE? I ran into problems with NFS locks when mounting from a BSD file server running 4.0 using NFS vers.3. I read on -current list about 2 months ago that there was some experimental code for rpc.lockd that didn't make it into 4.0. Can anyone please clarify this? Thanks a lot. Vladimir To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 10:28:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from math.uic.edu (galois.math.uic.edu [131.193.178.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F155D37BCBE for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 10:28:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vladimir-bsd-stable@math.uic.edu@math.uic.edu) Received: (qmail 15950 invoked by uid 31415); 16 Mar 2000 18:28:10 -0000 Date: 16 Mar 2000 18:28:10 -0000 Message-ID: <20000316182810.15949.qmail@math.uic.edu> From: "vladimir-bsd-stable@math.uic.edu"@math.uic.edu To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: rpc.lockd -- addition Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry forgot to add that the client is a Solaris 7 machine. My apology... > What's the current status of rpc.lockd in 4.0-RELEASE? I ran into > problems with NFS locks when mounting from a BSD file server running > 4.0 using NFS vers.3. I read on -current list about 2 months ago that > there was some experimental code for rpc.lockd that didn't make it into > 4.0. Can anyone please clarify this? Thanks a lot. > Vladimir To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 10:47:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from silver.komanda.com.ua (silver.komanda.com.ua [212.68.162.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4340E37BCCA; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 10:47:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sysop@komanda.com.ua) Received: from silver.komanda.com.ua (silver.komanda.com.ua [212.68.162.138]) by silver.komanda.com.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA22768; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 20:49:22 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sysop@komanda.com.ua) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 20:49:22 +0200 (EET) From: Alex Bulygin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: buildworld error Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi FreeBSDusers! I tried to buildworld 3.4-STABLE and got the following (sorry for long output): /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/tty.c:737: warning: passing arg 1 of `dump_regs' from incompatible pointer type /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/tty.c: In function `tty_read': /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/tty.c:1745: warning: passing arg 1 of `fake_int' from incompatible pointer type /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/tty.c: In function `tty_peek': /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/tty.c:1787: warning: passing arg 1 of `fake_int' from incompatible pointer type /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/tty.c: In function `video_init': /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/tty.c:2000: warning: passing arg 2 of `register_callback' from incompatible pointer type /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/tty.c: In function `video_bios_init': /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/tty.c:2212: warning: passing arg 2 of `register_callback' from incompatible pointer type cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/X11R6/include -DDISASSEMBLER -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/xms.c cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/X11R6/include -DDISASSEMBLER -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -o doscmd AsyncIO.o ParseBuffer.o bios.o callback.o cpu.o dos.o cmos.o config.o cwd.o debug.o disktab.o doscmd.o ems.o emuint.o exe.o i386-pinsn.o int.o int10.o int1 3.o int14.o int16.o int17.o int1a.o int2f.o intff.o mem.o mouse.o net.o port.o setver.o signal.o timer.o trace.o trap.o tty.o xms.o -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 tty.o: In function `video_setborder': tty.o(.text+0x25f): undefined reference to `XSetWindowBackground' tty.o: In function `setgc': tty.o(.text+0x2f5): undefined reference to `XChangeGC' tty.o: In function `video_update': tty.o(.text+0x50e): undefined reference to `XDrawImageString' tty.o(.text+0x597): undefined reference to `XDrawImageString' tty.o(.text+0x68a): undefined reference to `XChangeGC' tty.o(.text+0x712): undefined reference to `XFillRectangle' tty.o(.text+0x7be): undefined reference to `XChangeGC' tty.o(.text+0x7fb): undefined reference to `XFillRectangle' tty.o(.text+0x809): undefined reference to `XFlush' tty.o: In function `debug_event': tty.o(.text+0xc48): undefined reference to `XBell' tty.o(.text+0xc53): undefined reference to `XFlush' tty.o: In function `video_async_event': tty.o(.text+0x1233): undefined reference to `XFlush' tty.o(.text+0x124b): undefined reference to `XNextEvent' tty.o(.text+0x12c7): undefined reference to `XFlush' tty.o(.text+0x12fc): undefined reference to `XNextEvent' tty.o: In function `video_event': tty.o(.text+0x17f4): undefined reference to `XLookupString' tty.o(.text+0x1978): undefined reference to `XLookupString' tty.o: In function `tty_write': tty.o(.text+0x27fe): undefined reference to `XBell' tty.o: In function `KbdWrite': tty.o(.text+0x3083): undefined reference to `XBell' tty.o: In function `video_init': tty.o(.text+0x33e1): undefined reference to `XOpenDisplay' tty.o(.text+0x3408): undefined reference to `XDisplayName' tty.o(.text+0x34df): undefined reference to `XAllocNamedColor' tty.o(.text+0x3532): undefined reference to `XLoadQueryFont' tty.o(.text+0x354e): undefined reference to `XLoadQueryFont' tty.o(.text+0x3629): undefined reference to `XCreateSimpleWindow' tty.o(.text+0x368c): undefined reference to `XCreateGC' tty.o(.text+0x36c3): undefined reference to `XCreateGC' tty.o(.text+0x36e0): undefined reference to `XSetNormalHints' tty.o(.text+0x370a): undefined reference to `XSelectInput' tty.o(.text+0x371e): undefined reference to `XMapWindow' tty.o(.text+0x3729): undefined reference to `XFlush' *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. Could you direct me and point how to cure buildworld? Thanks for help. Alex. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 11:34: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ramstind.gtf.ol.no (ramstind.gtf.ol.no [128.39.174.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F0E837C186 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:33:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by ramstind.gtf.ol.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA16147; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 20:33:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 20:33:44 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= To: Johan Karlsson Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "No /boot/loader" or "Invalid format" In-Reply-To: <200003161652.RAA62158@numeri.campus.luth.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Johan Karlsson wrote: > I have had succes with Win partitions of size 2-4 GB and could not see any > other limit then the 504MB limit in the handbook (which I know does not apply). > > Where can I find docs on / how can I calculate the 8GB limit? The FAQ (see Installation) tells you to keep all bootable partitions below the 1023rd cylinder (assuming the first cylinder is numbered 0). If possible, you should install a small NTFS partition and a small FreeBSD slice (only ``/'') below the 1023rd cylinder and use the remaining space as you see fit for both NTFS and FreeBSD. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Trond Endrestøl | trond@gtf.ol.no Merkantilvegen 59HB7, | trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no N-2815 GJØVIK, NORWAY |+47 61139424 || +47 63874242 Patron of The Art of Computer Programming| FreeBSD 3.4 & Pine 4.21 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 11:40:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B5537C1FF; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:40:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA63569; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:40:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:40:26 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: Alex Bulygin Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildworld error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Alex Bulygin wrote: > I tried to buildworld 3.4-STABLE and got the following > (sorry for long output): It thinks you have X installed and is trying to compile X support into doscmd, but it's failing for some reason. Do you have an incomplete X installation? .if !defined(DESTDIR) && exists(${X11BASE}/include/X11/X.h) && \ exists(${XLIBDIR}/libX11.a) CFLAGS+= -I${X11BASE}/include LDADD+= -L${XLIBDIR} -lX11 DPADD+= ${XLIBDIR}/libX11.a .else CFLAGS+= -DNO_X .endif Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 11:44:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 562F337C244; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:44:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA64351; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:44:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:44:32 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: "Jeffrey J. Libman" Cc: Daniel Boyd , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Jeffrey J. Libman wrote: > interesting. i have managed to do my "make installworld" updates on 3.4 > without dropping to single user in the past. i know this is often > ill-advised...but i seem to get away with it. is this not possible in > future releases? or is this only super critical with the 3.4->4.0 upgrade? It's always the recommended practise, but it's only critical when major things change. In particular, you're likely not even to be able to boot into multi-user mode at the point when you've installed a 4.0 kernel but haven't yet done the installworld, if you try and load things like KLD modules (e.g. if you have linux_enable="Yes" the system will probably panic at boot time because of the very stale KLD). Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 11:45:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF80F37C1B9; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:45:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA64714; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:45:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:45:42 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: hometeam Cc: Daniel Boyd , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, hometeam wrote: > Problem with the ad driver is a big issue ..I for one did an upgrade > on one system...No problems till reboot , would not detect the ad0 device > Stable is not the word for 4.0...Someone jump the gun on this one.. > Also multiport option .. I tryed on another system same as my 3.4 > stable ...Which worked fine on 3.4..I looked and found no issues with > multiport option... This is not a bug report, it's a vague complaint. We can't fix your problems without details! Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 11:47:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ogurok.com (ogurok.com [209.208.150.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B9A137C296 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:47:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oleg@ogurok.com) Received: from localhost (oleg@localhost) by ogurok.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA83904 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:50:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from oleg@ogurok.com) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:50:43 -0500 (EST) From: Oleg Ogurok To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: which branch? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does 4.0-STABLE exists? If yes, do I use RELENG_4 tag or still RELENG_3 ? Thank you. Oleg Ogurok oleg@ogurok.com http://www.ogurok.com For PGP Public Key go to http://www.ogurok.com/pgpkey.txt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 11:47:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C8337C35C; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:47:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA65370; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:47:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:47:45 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: "Robert E. Lee" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Robert E. Lee wrote: > I recently did a cvsup with the 4.x src (RELENG_4), which works with no > problems. However, when attempting a 'make buildworld' I see this error > message (after several minutes of compiling): > /usr/src/usr.sbin/ppp/chap_ms.c:29: openssl/des.h: No such file or > directory > mkdep: compile failed Well, I couldn't replicate this when I tried (under several different conditions). The only bug I found with compiling without crypto support was in tcpdump. Perhaps you have a stale /usr/obj? Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 11:49:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054E037C1EE; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:49:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA65748; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:49:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:49:11 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: Glen Gross Cc: Warner Losh , Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Glen Gross wrote: > I think that's a good idea... upgrading from 3.x to 4.0 is too complicated > to be worth the hassle. The UPDATING document really doesn't make this Install a binary snapshot and be done with it. The UPDATING document is only the hoops you need to jump through to do a source recompile to get from 3 to 4. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 11:51:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ABC637BCDD; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:51:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA66118; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:51:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:51:29 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: Doug Barton Cc: Josef Karthauser , Warner Losh , Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Doug Barton wrote: > On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Josef Karthauser wrote: > > > Sounds like a good idea to me - I'm currently upgrading a machine > > from 2.2.2 to 3.4, and could have done with concise instructions. > > I can save you some time. That won't work. :) You have to upgrade > to 2.2.8-Stable first, then upgrade to 3.2-Release, then upgrade to > 3.4-Release. It might be much simpler to just do a binary install of 3.4-R and then re-make the world if you want different compiler settings or something. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 11:54: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A7937C29D; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:53:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA66851; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:53:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:53:58 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: Warner Losh Cc: Doug Barton , Josef Karthauser , Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions In-Reply-To: <200003152159.OAA89926@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > To build a kernel > ----------------- > Update config, genassym and go: > cd src/usr.bin/genassym > make depend all install > cd ../../usr.sbin/config > make depend all install > cd ../../sys/i386/conf > config YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > cd ../../compile/YOUR_KERNEL_HERE I still think we should be recommending people use 'make buildkernel' to build GENERIC and minimize the possibility of foot-shooting from a stupid config file which then gets blamed on 4.0 itself. Besides, I tried to rebuild my kernel from 3.4 using 'config' et al, but it didn't compile because the PATH was wrong and it was using the 3.x compiler/linker. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 11:56: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88FF837BCA6; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:56:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA67440; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:56:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:56:04 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: Doug Barton Cc: Warner Losh , Josef Karthauser , Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Doug Barton wrote: > 7. reboot reboot into single-user mode. I tried to reboot into multi-user after upgrading from my fresh 3.4 install and got a panic durign the /etc/rc sequence, probably due to trying to kldload the 3.4 linux.ko. This could be offputting for someone who didn't know how to fix it :-) Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 11:56:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vinyl.sentex.ca (vinyl.sentex.ca [209.112.4.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9CB637C182 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:56:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.ca) Received: from simoeon (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by vinyl.sentex.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA78553; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:56:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.ca) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000316145352.02f0d100@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:53:52 -0500 To: Oleg Ogurok , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: which branch? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 02:50 PM 3/16/00 -0500, Oleg Ogurok wrote: > >Does 4.0-STABLE exists? Yes e.g. FreeBSD buildbox.sentex.ca 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0 >If yes, do I use RELENG_4 tag or still RELENG_3 ? RELENG_4 for 4.x STABLE RELENG_3 for 3.x STABLE ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 11:58:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819CF37C28A; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:58:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA68065; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:58:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:58:32 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: Oleg Ogurok Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: which branch? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Oleg Ogurok wrote: > > Does 4.0-STABLE exists? Yes. Of course since the 4.x branch has only just been born, there are likely to be some problems worked out over the course of the next few weeks, so please don't just slap this on a production server without testing first, etc :) Your testing will however be very valuable and help to improve the quality of the branch. > If yes, do I use RELENG_4 tag or still RELENG_3 ? RELENG_3 will still track the 3.x-stable branch just like RELENG_2_2 does 2.2.x-stable. So of course you want RELENG_4. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 12: 3:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5178437C1B9; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:03:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from slave (doug@slave [10.0.0.1]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16692; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:03:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:03:26 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Barton X-Sender: doug@dt051n0b.san.rr.com To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Warner Losh , Doug Barton , Josef Karthauser , Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > I still think we should be recommending people use 'make buildkernel' to > build GENERIC and minimize the possibility of foot-shooting from a stupid > config file which then gets blamed on 4.0 itself. I strongly agree with this. These messages are already showing up. I think that most of the -current developers have forgotten just how much different the 4.0 kernel config file is from the 3.x branch. Also, I'd like to suggest modifying 'installkernel' to install the kernel it builds as /kernel, rather than as /${KERNEL} (which usually means /GENERIC). This bit me the first time, and even though it's harmless not everyone is saavy enough to know how to boot a specific kernel, or even to know where to look. Doug -- "While the future's there for anyone to change, still you know it seems, it would be easier sometimes to change the past" - Jackson Browne, "Fountain of Sorrow" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 12: 5:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4958037C1DD; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:05:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from slave (doug@slave [10.0.0.1]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16721; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:05:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:05:24 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Barton X-Sender: doug@dt051n0b.san.rr.com To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Warner Losh , Josef Karthauser , Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Doug Barton wrote: > > > 7. reboot > > reboot into single-user mode. > > I tried to reboot into multi-user after upgrading from my fresh 3.4 > install and got a panic durign the /etc/rc sequence, probably due to > trying to kldload the 3.4 linux.ko. This could be offputting for someone > who didn't know how to fix it :-) True. I plan to emphasize that running single user here is better, but since I do a lot of work remotely, I tend to focus on a strategy that works remotely. This is a really good caveat however, and I'll add it to my notes. I'm hoping to finish up my updated "make upgrade" page tonight, assuming that someone comes by with the keys later on tonight and uncuffs me from my desk at work..... Doug -- "While the future's there for anyone to change, still you know it seems, it would be easier sometimes to change the past" - Jackson Browne, "Fountain of Sorrow" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 12:16: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E43E37C20A for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:15:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from slave (doug@slave [10.0.0.1]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16727; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:15:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:15:46 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Barton X-Sender: doug@dt051n0b.san.rr.com To: "Jeffrey J. Libman" Cc: Daniel Boyd , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Jeffrey J. Libman wrote: > interesting. i have managed to do my "make installworld" updates on 3.4 > without dropping to single user in the past. i know this is often > ill-advised...but i seem to get away with it. is this not possible in > future releases? or is this only super critical with the 3.4->4.0 upgrade? It depends on your system. For years I have always done all of my make world stuff in multi-user, including major version upgrades. I got bit twice, and both were recoverable. In fact, one of the two times I even noticed a difference was when my version of gnuls didn't like the new lib so I had to 'unalias ls' for about 20 minutes. :) Then again, something in your system might go terribly wrong, and your machine could blow up (or something). This is why we tell you to take really good backups BEFORE doing upgrades, and make sure you can restore from them if need be. Good luck, Doug -- "While the future's there for anyone to change, still you know it seems, it would be easier sometimes to change the past" - Jackson Browne, "Fountain of Sorrow" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 12:19:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from firewall.symark.com (firewall.symark.westlake.iswest.net [207.178.203.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B86237C27B; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:16:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ggross@symark.com) Received: (from mailer@localhost) by firewall.symark.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA27222; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:16:57 -0800 Received: from minnow.symark.com(128.1.1.70) by firewall.symark.com via smap (V2.1/2.1+anti-relay+anti-spam) id xma027214; Thu, 16 Mar 00 12:16:45 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:16:37 -0800 (PST) From: Glen Gross X-Sender: ggross@minnow To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Warner Losh , Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That is, in fact, what I did. I chose to leave my 3.4 system intact since it runs so well [and the kernel has been recompiled 26 times.] Glen Gross Unix Technical Support Specialist SYMARK SOFTWARE 5716 Corsa Avenue, Suite 200 Westlake Village, CA 91362 Main: 818-865-6100 FAX: 818-889-1894 http://www.symark.com Technical Support: unix-support@symark.com On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Glen Gross wrote: > > > I think that's a good idea... upgrading from 3.x to 4.0 is too complicated > > to be worth the hassle. The UPDATING document really doesn't make this > > Install a binary snapshot and be done with it. The UPDATING document is > only the hoops you need to jump through to do a source recompile to get > from 3 to 4. > > Kris > > ---- > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 12:19:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D3C37C40E; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:19:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01522; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:19:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA96875; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:19:09 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003162019.NAA96875@harmony.village.org> To: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions Cc: Doug Barton , Josef Karthauser , Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:53:58 PST." References: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:19:09 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Kris Kennaway writes: : I still think we should be recommending people use 'make buildkernel' to : build GENERIC and minimize the possibility of foot-shooting from a stupid : config file which then gets blamed on 4.0 itself. Besides, I tried to : rebuild my kernel from 3.4 using 'config' et al, but it didn't compile : because the PATH was wrong and it was using the 3.x compiler/linker. I agree with this. I think that creating /GENERIC isn't a big deal and I kinda like it. It is certainly less confusing than some of the alternatives. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 12:23:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (diarmadhi.mushhaven.net [63.75.111.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE4337C1A8; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:22:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mistwolf@diarmadhi.mushhaven.net) Received: (from mistwolf@localhost) by diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA90726; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:21:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mistwolf) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:21:27 -0800 From: Jamie Norwood To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Oleg Ogurok , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: which branch? Message-ID: <20000316122126.A90676@mushhaven.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 11:58:32AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Oleg Ogurok wrote: > > > > > Does 4.0-STABLE exists? > > Yes. Of course since the 4.x branch has only just been born, there are > likely to be some problems worked out over the course of the next few > weeks, so please don't just slap this on a production server without > testing first, etc :) Your testing will however be very valuable and help > to improve the quality of the branch. I've been wondering about this, as I have seen it go by a few times along with almost-flames of all the people sure to go slap this on a server... -STABLE is supposed to be safe to put on a server. If 4.x is .not. yet safe... Why is it in -STABLE? This kinda bugs me as it fairly well defeats the point of having a -STABLE if it isn't, in fact, stable. Jamie > Kris > > ---- > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 12:27:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cpq.nyi.net (cpq.nyi.net [204.248.157.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3509F37BAF4 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:27:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from javier@nyi.net) Received: from nyi.net (cpq.nyi.net [204.248.157.72]) by cpq.nyi.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00510 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:25:39 GMT (envelope-from javier@nyi.net) Message-ID: <38D0FCF2.DF0C1831@nyi.net> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:25:38 +0000 From: Javier Frias Organization: NYI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Perl Locale Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been playing around with 4.0 stable, just to get a feel for it, and i've come across this oddity, whenever a perl based system script is run from an xterm, i get a locale error, and this does not happen when it is run from outsite an xterm. the locale error is as follows: perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LC_ALL = (unset), LC_CTYPE = "en_US", LANG = (unset) are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). this wappens with adduser, which, and other's is it something am overlooking here, i've had plenty experience with systems on 2.2.x and 3.x stable series with and without X and this is the first time i ever seen this mesage. Any insight would be appreciated ;) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 12:31:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB13037BD2F; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:31:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA75257; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:31:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:31:19 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: Jamie Norwood Cc: Oleg Ogurok , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: which branch? In-Reply-To: <20000316122126.A90676@mushhaven.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Jamie Norwood wrote: > -STABLE is supposed to be safe to put on a server. If 4.x is .not. yet > safe... Why is it in -STABLE? This kinda bugs me as it fairly well defeats > the point of having a -STABLE if it isn't, in fact, stable. -STABLE means the branch which only gets minimal changes, and is *intended* to be stable, safe code. However even -stable breaks sometimes, and at the start of a new branch which has had as many major code changes as 4.0 did, there are bound to be problems to be resolved. The same situation existed with 3.0, which only really "stabilized" about 3.1 or 3.2, and with 2.2.0. Basically the recommendation has always been that the code only truly settles down after a few releases along the branch and if you really can't afford to deal with problems you should wait for 4.3 or even 4.4 before installing the 4.x series (we used to jump to a .5 release, e.g. 2.2.2 -> 2.2.5, when it was considered the branch had become truly conservatively stable and safe, but we don't do this any more, so the .3 release is usually a reasonable equivalent). However, there are a lot of people who still run 3.0 or 3.1 systems without problems, so the "early deployers" certainly don't always find themselves in trouble. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 12:33:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (diarmadhi.mushhaven.net [63.75.111.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C4237BC8C; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:33:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mistwolf@diarmadhi.mushhaven.net) Received: (from mistwolf@localhost) by diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA90817; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:32:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mistwolf) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:32:20 -0800 From: Jamie Norwood To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Oleg Ogurok , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: which branch? Message-ID: <20000316123220.A90801@mushhaven.net> References: <20000316122126.A90676@mushhaven.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG So really, then, it is only recently that people should even have been moving from 2.2.x to 3.x? This doesn't seem to make sense to me. So we are selling an unstable version in the stores? One we don't recommend normal people install? Jamie On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 12:31:19PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Jamie Norwood wrote: > > > -STABLE is supposed to be safe to put on a server. If 4.x is .not. yet > > safe... Why is it in -STABLE? This kinda bugs me as it fairly well defeats > > the point of having a -STABLE if it isn't, in fact, stable. > > -STABLE means the branch which only gets minimal changes, and is > *intended* to be stable, safe code. However even -stable breaks sometimes, > and at the start of a new branch which has had as many major code changes > as 4.0 did, there are bound to be problems to be resolved. The same > situation existed with 3.0, which only really "stabilized" about 3.1 or > 3.2, and with 2.2.0. > > Basically the recommendation has always been that the code only truly > settles down after a few releases along the branch and if you really can't > afford to deal with problems you should wait for 4.3 or even 4.4 before > installing the 4.x series (we used to jump to a .5 release, e.g. 2.2.2 -> > 2.2.5, when it was considered the branch had become truly conservatively > stable and safe, but we don't do this any more, so the .3 release is > usually a reasonable equivalent). > > However, there are a lot of people who still run 3.0 or 3.1 systems > without problems, so the "early deployers" certainly don't always find > themselves in trouble. > > Kris > > ---- > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 12:43:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D1737C1A0; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:42:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA77635; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:42:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:42:55 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: Jamie Norwood Cc: Oleg Ogurok , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: which branch? In-Reply-To: <20000316123220.A90801@mushhaven.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Jamie Norwood wrote: > So really, then, it is only recently that people should even have been moving > from 2.2.x to 3.x? This doesn't seem to make sense to me. So we are selling > an unstable version in the stores? One we don't recommend normal people > install? No, I didn't say <3.3 was unstable, I said that we recommend for the ultra-conservative folks that they hold off jumping in the pool before about then to give the pool-cleaners time to fish out the bugs. This is how it's always been in FreeBSD and always will be: except by getting the new release "out there" we don't have a hope of being able to put it through all of the real-world testing which others can do. If you think FreeBSD releases should be made with less bugs and higher quality, you need to join the QA program and help find them before it goes out the door so they can be fixed before, not after. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 13: 3:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from firebat.Bushong.NET (c128625-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com [24.5.196.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BFF437BC40; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:03:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dbushong@firebat.Bushong.NET) Received: (from dbushong@localhost) by firebat.Bushong.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA48387; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:03:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dbushong) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:03:23 -0800 From: David Bushong To: Kris Kennaway Cc: "Robert E. Lee" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.0 Message-ID: <20000316130323.D92442@Bushong.NET> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from kris@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 11:47:45AM -0800 X-Floating-Sheep-Port: 0xbaa Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 11:47:45AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Robert E. Lee wrote: > > > I recently did a cvsup with the 4.x src (RELENG_4), which works with no > > problems. However, when attempting a 'make buildworld' I see this error > > message (after several minutes of compiling): > > /usr/src/usr.sbin/ppp/chap_ms.c:29: openssl/des.h: No such file or > > directory > > mkdep: compile failed > > Well, I couldn't replicate this when I tried (under several different > conditions). The only bug I found with compiling without crypto support > was in tcpdump. Perhaps you have a stale /usr/obj? > I got this exact behavior from having only src-all in my supfile, and not cvs-crypto. --David Bushong To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 13:13:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856CB37BF53 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:13:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA15770; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:13:40 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-72.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.72) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma015768; Thu Mar 16 15:13:14 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20000316150239.00b82af0@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:11:05 -0600 To: Doug Barton From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:03 PM 3/16/00 -0800, Doug Barton wrote: > Also, I'd like to suggest modifying 'installkernel' to install the >kernel it builds as /kernel, rather than as /${KERNEL} (which usually >means /GENERIC). This bit me the first time, and even though it's harmless >not everyone is saavy enough to know how to boot a specific kernel, or >even to know where to look. Not too often I need to to boot a specific kernel, but when an odd bug was causing my boot drive ad0 not to be found, still recalled that one must interrupt the boot sequence, unload the kernel, load the desire kernel, and 'boot' up. Good thing I was paying attention to all the endless discussion about the new loader back when 3.0 was in the works. Only problem I had was remembering to look over and catch it. 8-/ A few basics on the loader should be in the handbook, IMO. AFAICR, there is no mention either in the FAQ either. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 13:18:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D7337BDF5 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:18:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA15807; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:18:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-72.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.72) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma015798; Thu Mar 16 15:18:25 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20000316151152.00b71550@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:16:17 -0600 To: Trond =?iso-8859-1?Q?Endrest=F8l?= , Johan Karlsson From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: "No /boot/loader" or "Invalid format" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <200003161652.RAA62158@numeri.campus.luth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 08:33 PM 3/16/00 +0100, Trond Endrest=F8l wrote: >If possible, you should install a small NTFS partition and a small >FreeBSD slice (only ``/'') below the 1023rd cylinder and use the >remaining space as you see fit for both NTFS and FreeBSD. Not sure if the behaviour changed, but the other gotcha is that / and swap= =20 must be sequential on the disk (or was it same partition/drive). There may= =20 have been a specific circumstance where this would blow up and am pretty=20 sure that it affected 3.x and earlier. Simple enough to play it safe. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 13:34:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from techpower.net (techpower.net [205.133.231.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF6E37BCE1; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:34:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hometeam@techpower.net) Received: from localhost (hometeam@localhost) by techpower.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA00771; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:41:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from hometeam@techpower.net) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:41:40 -0500 (EST) From: hometeam To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Daniel Boyd , stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have an 6 gig maxtor that ad driver will not make the partition file system.. This was trying a fresh install > ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting > ata0: resetting devices .. done > ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting > ata0: resetting devices .. done > and that repeats until I stop it with a control-c... On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, hometeam wrote: > > > Problem with the ad driver is a big issue ..I for one did an upgrade > > on one system...No problems till reboot , would not detect the ad0 device > > Stable is not the word for 4.0...Someone jump the gun on this one.. > > Also multiport option .. I tryed on another system same as my 3.4 > > stable ...Which worked fine on 3.4..I looked and found no issues with > > multiport option... > > This is not a bug report, it's a vague complaint. We can't fix your > problems without details! > > Kris > > ---- > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 13:35:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A872E37B8CB; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:35:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA15894; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:35:14 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-72.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.72) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma015889; Thu Mar 16 15:34:44 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20000316151715.00b7f4f0@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:32:36 -0600 To: Kris Kennaway , Jamie Norwood From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: which branch? Cc: Oleg Ogurok , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <20000316123220.A90801@mushhaven.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:42 PM 3/16/00 -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: >No, I didn't say <3.3 was unstable, I said that we recommend for the >ultra-conservative folks that they hold off jumping in the pool before >about then to give the pool-cleaners time to fish out the bugs. They wait about 6 months. About 2-4 weeks is sufficient for me. YMMV Still have system running 3.0R that is fairly reliable. Say "fairly" due to the vm bug that bites it once in a while. Knowing what generally causes it and how to catch it meant I never got around to updating. Bad yes, but it plays a minor role. Soon will be 4.0, but hope to be a bit more diligent upgrading. >This is how it's always been in FreeBSD and always will be: except by >getting the new release "out there" we don't have a hope of being able to >put it through all of the real-world testing which others can do. If you >think FreeBSD releases should be made with less bugs and higher quality, >you need to join the QA program and help find them before it goes out the >door so they can be fixed before, not after. Call me adventuresome, but I like to have at least one dot-oh release in production. Gives me time to adjust to new features, etc, etc. Not to start a big discussion on the release process (again), but for the QA team's sake there should be a day or 3 delay between the release tag and the grand send off to allow time for 11th hour problems. The few more problematic I saw were fixed. A minor ones remain, but need to rule out hardware/pilot error and none should be show stoppers for anyone. For those with non-critical needs I heartily recommend 4.0 release or stable. Much, much better than 3.0R's debut. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 13:41:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E9B37BF24 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:41:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <115366>; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:41:27 +1100 Content-return: prohibited From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: "No /boot/loader" or "Invalid format" In-reply-to: <4.3.2.20000316151152.00b71550@207.227.119.2>; from jeff-ml@mountin.net on Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 08:19:36AM +1100 To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <00Mar17.084127est.115366@border.alcanet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <200003161652.RAA62158@numeri.campus.luth.se> <4.3.2.20000316151152.00b71550@207.227.119.2> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:41:26 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2000-Mar-17 08:19:36 +1100, "Jeffrey J. Mountin" wrote: >Not sure if the behaviour changed, but the other gotcha is that / and swap >must be sequential on the disk (or was it same partition/drive). I don't recall ever seeing this mentioned anywhere. There shouldn't be anything in the system that requires it. Do you have a pointer to something that documents this? Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 13:54:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ramstind.gtf.ol.no (ramstind.gtf.ol.no [128.39.174.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E7937BCEF for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:54:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by ramstind.gtf.ol.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA23487; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 22:54:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 22:54:13 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: Johan Karlsson , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "No /boot/loader" or "Invalid format" In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20000316151152.00b71550@207.227.119.2> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > At 08:33 PM 3/16/00 +0100, Trond Endrestøl wrote: > >If possible, you should install a small NTFS partition and a small > >FreeBSD slice (only ``/'') below the 1023rd cylinder and use the > >remaining space as you see fit for both NTFS and FreeBSD. > > Not sure if the behaviour changed, but the other gotcha is that / and swap > must be sequential on the disk (or was it same partition/drive). There may > have been a specific circumstance where this would blow up and am pretty > sure that it affected 3.x and earlier. FreeBSD supports multiple swap partitions (at least one per hard drive) and I believe they can be placed anywhere on each disk. Swap partitions are usually labelled as da0s1b, da1s1b, etc, whereas root partitions are labelled as da0s1a, da1s1a, etc. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Trond Endrestøl | trond@gtf.ol.no Merkantilvegen 59HB7, | trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no N-2815 GJØVIK, NORWAY |+47 61139424 || +47 63874242 Patron of The Art of Computer Programming| FreeBSD 3.4 & Pine 4.21 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 14: 6:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pan.ch.intel.com (pan.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A0F37BCFD for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:06:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by pan.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.19 2000/01/29 00:15:43 dmccart Exp $) with ESMTP id PAA17219; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:06:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.10 2000/02/10 21:38:16 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id PAA19043; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:05:34 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id RAA25540; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 17:06:35 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14545.23275.14397.471636@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:06:35 -0700 (MST) To: Javier Frias Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Perl Locale In-Reply-To: <38D0FCF2.DF0C1831@nyi.net> References: <38D0FCF2.DF0C1831@nyi.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.3.11 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Thursday, March 16, Javier Frias wrote: ] > I've been playing around with 4.0 stable, just to get a feel for it, and > i've > come across this oddity, whenever a perl based system script is run > from an xterm, i get a locale error, and this does not happen when it is > run > from outsite an xterm. > > the locale error is as follows: > perl: warning: Setting locale failed. > perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: > LC_ALL = (unset), > LC_CTYPE = "en_US", > LANG = (unset) > are supported and installed on your system. > perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). > > this wappens with adduser, which, and other's setenv LC_ALL en_US.ISO_8859-1 setenv LC_CTYPE en_US.ISO_8859-1 setenv LANG en_US.ISO_8859-1 put those in your /etc/csh.cshrc file (or the equivalent file for bash/sh if you so choose). adjust to your exact taste.... -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 14:11:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2742F37B9D8 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:11:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA16206; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:11:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-72.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.72) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma016203; Thu Mar 16 16:11:20 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20000316155403.00b7d740@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:09:12 -0600 To: Peter Jeremy From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: "No /boot/loader" or "Invalid format" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <00Mar17.084127est.115366@border.alcanet.com.au> References: <4.3.2.20000316151152.00b71550@207.227.119.2> <200003161652.RAA62158@numeri.campus.luth.se> <4.3.2.20000316151152.00b71550@207.227.119.2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 08:41 AM 3/17/00 +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: >On 2000-Mar-17 08:19:36 +1100, "Jeffrey J. Mountin" >wrote: > >Not sure if the behaviour changed, but the other gotcha is that / and swap > >must be sequential on the disk (or was it same partition/drive). > >I don't recall ever seeing this mentioned anywhere. There shouldn't >be anything in the system that requires it. Do you have a pointer to >something that documents this? Not that far back like 4 months or so and am fairly sure it was a similar discussion here on -stable. Didn't save it, so... Was around the time of the "easyboot far into disk" thread, AFAICR. Can't be more specific, but there definitely was some discussion about not having the root and swap as consecutive "partitions" ie ad0s1a ad0s1b on the same slice. Sorry that I can't be more clear, but it was something mentioned in passing that doubtfully I'd ever have a chance of running into. 8-/ Hmm... it could have been someone trying to have swap *before* root. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 14:23:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DBB37B84A; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:23:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA92807; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:23:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:23:11 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: Jamie Norwood , Oleg Ogurok , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: which branch? In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20000316151715.00b7f4f0@207.227.119.2> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > Not to start a big discussion on the release process (again), but for the > QA team's sake there should be a day or 3 delay between the release tag and > the grand send off to allow time for 11th hour problems. The few more > problematic I saw were fixed. A minor ones remain, but need to rule out > hardware/pilot error and none should be show stoppers for anyone. This is exactly what happened ;-) > For those with non-critical needs I heartily recommend 4.0 release or > stable. Much, much better than 3.0R's debut. Agreed. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 14:24:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ogurok.com (ogurok.com [209.208.150.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C0337BB6E for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:24:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oleg@ogurok.com) Received: from localhost (oleg@localhost) by ogurok.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA84363 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 17:27:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from oleg@ogurok.com) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 17:27:42 -0500 (EST) From: Oleg Ogurok To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RELENG_4 installworld fails Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just cvsup'ed sources from cvsup3.freebsd.org. Buildworld went through, here's what I am getting trying installworld: ===> lib/libcom_err cd /usr/src/lib/libcom_err && install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/src/lib/libcom_err/../../contrib/com_err/com_err.h /usr/include cd /usr/src/lib/libcom_err && install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/src/lib/libcom_err/../../contrib/com_err/com_right.h /usr/include install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 libcom_err.a /usr/lib install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 libcom_err_p.a /usr/lib install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 444 libcom_err.so.2 /usr/lib ln -sf libcom_err.so.2 /usr/lib/libcom_err.so install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 com_err.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3 ===> lib/libcom_err/doc install-info --quiet --defsection="Programming & development tools." --defentry="* libcom_err: (com_err). A Common Error Description Library for UNIX." com_err.info /usr/share/info/dir install-info: unrecognized option `--defsection=Programming & development tools.' Try `install-info --help' for a complete list of options. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Oleg Ogurok oleg@ogurok.com http://www.ogurok.com For PGP Public Key go to http://www.ogurok.com/pgpkey.txt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 14:31: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A55237BDF1 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:31:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA16426; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:30:58 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-72.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.72) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma016424; Thu Mar 16 16:30:46 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20000316161006.00a98c70@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:28:38 -0600 To: David Bushong From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: 4.0 Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20000316130323.D92442@Bushong.NET> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 01:03 PM 3/16/00 -0800, David Bushong wrote: >I got this exact behavior from having only src-all in my supfile, and not >cvs-crypto. That has to be it. Those that used src-all and src-des without changing should see the same thing. DES is now hidden so to speak. In a way this breaks things since the secure and crypto sources are needed by the "base" system or /etc/defaults/make.conf needs changing to avoid this. Might not have worded that right, but am still a bit dizzy with all the changes revolving around the crypto changes. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 14:34:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B11D737BF4C for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:33:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brdavis@orion.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA24661; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:33:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:33:45 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: Oleg Ogurok Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4 installworld fails Message-ID: <20000316143345.B17940@orion.ac.hmc.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre4i In-Reply-To: ; from oleg@ogurok.com on Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 05:27:42PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 05:27:42PM -0500, Oleg Ogurok wrote: > > Just cvsup'ed sources from cvsup3.freebsd.org. > Buildworld went through, here's what I am getting trying installworld: > [snip] > install-info --quiet --defsection="Programming & development tools." > --defentry="* libcom_err: (com_err). A Common Error Description > Library for UNIX." com_err.info /usr/share/info/dir > install-info: unrecognized option `--defsection=Programming & development > tools.' > Try `install-info --help' for a complete list of options. > *** Error code 1 RTFM /usr/src/UPDATING The answer is: make installworld -DNOINFO make installworld -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 14:48:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2776A37BA53 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:48:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA16685; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:48:06 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-72.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.72) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma016683; Thu Mar 16 16:47:56 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20000316164432.00b72b40@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:45:49 -0600 To: David Bushong From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: 4.0 Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20000316161006.00a98c70@207.227.119.2> References: <20000316130323.D92442@Bushong.NET> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 04:28 PM 3/16/00 -0600, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: >At 01:03 PM 3/16/00 -0800, David Bushong wrote: >>I got this exact behavior from having only src-all in my supfile, and not >>cvs-crypto. > >That has to be it. > >Those that used src-all and src-des without changing should see the same >thing. DES is now hidden so to speak. Hate replying to myself, but was thinking about the "directories" in the distributions and not in cvsup files. >In a way this breaks things since the secure and crypto sources are needed >by the "base" system or /etc/defaults/make.conf needs changing to avoid this. > >Might not have worded that right, but am still a bit dizzy with all the >changes revolving around the crypto changes. Obviously. ;) Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 15: 7:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cpq.nyi.net (cpq.nyi.net [204.248.157.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C1A37B9D8 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:07:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from javier@nyi.net) Received: from nyi.net (cpq.nyi.net [204.248.157.72]) by cpq.nyi.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA05078; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 18:05:36 GMT (envelope-from javier@nyi.net) Message-ID: <38D12270.75E092D6@nyi.net> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 18:05:36 +0000 From: Javier Frias Organization: NYI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Reynolds~ Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Perl Locale References: <38D0FCF2.DF0C1831@nyi.net> <14545.23275.14397.471636@hip186.ch.intel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG that woul ddo it, i was setting them to "en_US" hehe thx John Reynolds~ wrote: > > [ On Thursday, March 16, Javier Frias wrote: ] > > I've been playing around with 4.0 stable, just to get a feel for it, and > > i've > > come across this oddity, whenever a perl based system script is run > > from an xterm, i get a locale error, and this does not happen when it is > > run > > from outsite an xterm. > > > > the locale error is as follows: > > perl: warning: Setting locale failed. > > perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: > > LC_ALL = (unset), > > LC_CTYPE = "en_US", > > LANG = (unset) > > are supported and installed on your system. > > perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). > > > > this wappens with adduser, which, and other's > > setenv LC_ALL en_US.ISO_8859-1 > setenv LC_CTYPE en_US.ISO_8859-1 > setenv LANG en_US.ISO_8859-1 > > put those in your /etc/csh.cshrc file (or the equivalent file for bash/sh if > you so choose). adjust to your exact taste.... > > -Jr > > -- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | > | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | > | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- MMM \|/ www __^__ (o o) @ @ (O-O) /(o o)\ -ooO-(_)-Ooo---oOO-(_)-OOo---oOO--(_)--OOo---oOO==(_)==OOo Javier A. Frias Sr. System Administrator The New York Internet Company 20 Exchange Place 21st Floor New York, N.Y. 10005 "Error #152 - Windows not found: (C)heer (P)arty (D)ance" --------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 15:39:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854E737BA77; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:39:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA01448; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:39:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:39:15 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: David Bushong , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.0 In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20000316161006.00a98c70@207.227.119.2> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > At 01:03 PM 3/16/00 -0800, David Bushong wrote: > >I got this exact behavior from having only src-all in my supfile, and not > >cvs-crypto. > > That has to be it. Just to confirm Jeffrey's retraction, failing to buildworld if the crypto sources are not present would be a bug, and I'm trying to replicate it based on the provided information. I'll know tonight whether my buildworld failed or not. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 15:49: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D3F37BD79 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:48:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA17300; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 17:48:51 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-109.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.109) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma017297; Thu Mar 16 17:48:28 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20000316171651.00b60490@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 17:27:36 -0600 To: Oleg Ogurok , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: RELENG_4 installworld fails In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 05:27 PM 3/16/00 -0500, Oleg Ogurok wrote: >Just cvsup'ed sources from cvsup3.freebsd.org. >Buildworld went through, here's what I am getting trying installworld: > >===> lib/libcom_err >cd /usr/src/lib/libcom_err && install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 >/usr/src/lib/libcom_err/../../contrib/com_err/com_err.h /usr/include >cd /usr/src/lib/libcom_err && install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 >/usr/src/lib/libcom_err/../../contrib/com_err/com_right.h /usr/include >install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 libcom_err.a /usr/lib >install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 libcom_err_p.a /usr/lib >install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 444 libcom_err.so.2 /usr/lib >ln -sf libcom_err.so.2 /usr/lib/libcom_err.so >install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 com_err.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3 >===> lib/libcom_err/doc >install-info --quiet --defsection="Programming & development tools." >--defentry="* libcom_err: (com_err). A Common Error Description >Library for UNIX." com_err.info /usr/share/info/dir >install-info: unrecognized option `--defsection=Programming & development >tools.' > Try `install-info --help' for a complete list of options. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop. >*** Error code 1 Were you using a -jX setting by chance? Was this 3.x or 4.0? If install info is the only failure point and this isn't an upgrade situation, try either `rm /usr/share/info/dir' or 'make -k installworld' to overcome this. The first would sometimes work and the latter would always work and is better done with -DNOINFO. Recently added this to my make.conf. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 16:21:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gandolf.org (cc886654-b.whmh1.md.home.com [24.3.58.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6EDB37BCDE for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:21:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gandolf@gandolf.org) Received: (from gandolf@localhost) by gandolf.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA00410; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 19:13:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gandolf) Message-Id: <200003170013.TAA00410@gandolf.org> From: "Jeff Hamilton" To: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 19:15:27 -0500 Reply-To: "Jeff Hamilton" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (4.0.1381;4) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 4.0-Stable upgrade -> rshd errors Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi. I just finished upgrading my FreeBSD 3.4-Stable system to 4.0-Stable. Now, whenever I rsh to the box, I get the following errors on the console and in /var/log/messages. Mar 16 19:05:24 gandolf rshd[391]: no modules loaded for `rshd' service Mar 16 19:05:24 gandolf rshd[391]: auth_pam: Permission denied Mar 16 19:05:24 gandolf rshd[391]: PAM authentication failed How can I get rid of these errors? Did I miss something as part of the upgrade? Thanks. Jeff gandolf@gandolf.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 16:27:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hbo.isi.edu (hbo.isi.edu [128.9.160.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DCB337BD04 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:27:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from larse@hbo.isi.edu) Received: (from larse@localhost) by hbo.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA00480; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:27:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from larse) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14545.31724.101083.516849@hbo.isi.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:27:24 -0800 (PST) From: Lars Eggert To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: top fails after "make world" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I just did a "make world" and recompiled the kernel for 4.0-STABLE, everything seems to work fine, except for top, which tells me: [hbo: ~] top top: nlist failed I have a feeling I'm missing something really obvious here... Lars ________________________________________________________________________ Lars Eggert Information Sciences Institute http://www.isi.edu/~larse/ University of Southern California To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 16:53: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hbo.isi.edu (hbo.isi.edu [128.9.160.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C56437BAE0 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:52:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from larse@hbo.isi.edu) Received: (from larse@localhost) by hbo.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA03179; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:52:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from larse) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14545.33258.621863.758368@hbo.isi.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:52:58 -0800 (PST) From: Lars Eggert To: boing@boing.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: top fails after "make world" In-Reply-To: <200003170038.QAA72023@kusanagi.boing.com> References: <14545.31724.101083.516849@hbo.isi.edu> <200003170038.QAA72023@kusanagi.boing.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG geff> On 16 Mar, Lars Eggert wrote: > I just did a "make world" and recompiled the kernel for 4.0-STABLE, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ geff> yup .. you need to install a new kernel, me thinks ... Did that, that was the first thing I thought of. Lars ________________________________________________________________________ Lars Eggert Information Sciences Institute http://www.isi.edu/~larse/ University of Southern California To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 17:27:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rlee.integratus.com (rlee.rdsl.co.lmi.net [207.174.195.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46C037C1FD for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 17:27:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rel@integratus.com) Received: from localhost (rel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rlee.integratus.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA84114 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 18:29:26 GMT (envelope-from rel@integratus.com) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 18:29:26 +0000 (GMT) From: "Robert E. Lee" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4 installworld fails In-Reply-To: <20000316143345.B17940@orion.ac.hmc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Brooks Davis wrote: > The answer is: > > make installworld -DNOINFO > make installworld while attempting this, I got: su-2.03# make installworld -DNOINFO "/usr/src/Makefile", line 101: warning: "LC_TIME=C date" returned non-zero status *** Signal 12 Stop. Hopefully, I too am missing something 'easy'. Robert E. Lee Sun Enterprise Certified Engineer Senior Technical Consultant, Integratus Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 17:51:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.enteract.com (mail.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73CDD37BCBA for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 17:51:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bitsurfr@enteract.com) Received: from wildrock (207-229-172-182.d.enteract.com [207.229.172.182]) by mail.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA08632 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 19:51:10 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bitsurfr@enteract.com) From: "Chris Silva" To: "Freebsd-Stable@Freebsd. Org" Subject: Installing 4.0 Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 19:51:32 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Well - I too had issues with 4.0 I just said, hell, DL the floppies, and do an internet install on a clean boxen... Overall, I like what I see - and there are plenty of changes I like... I liked it so much, I ordered the 4.0 (I understand that the subscription will leap-frog from say 3.6 to 4.1) I wanted the .0 release ;) Best regards, Chris _____________________________________________________________________ DH/DSS Fingerprint = 8265 0BB8 2C7D A376 3CCD 6858 8630 0E47 194A 0318 RSA Key Fingerprint = 4390 44E5 E316 F2AA A11E 5755 F3F9 D69B PGP Mail encouraged / preferred - keys available on common key servers _____________________________________________________________________ Proud supporter of FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 iQA/AwUBONGPo4YwDkcZSgMYEQKWLACgylu32HL4WXhSX0jBuGI5kRQXXvEAoPhL RsCNgPCk5x0IpzajN237O7fH =wWYe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 18:12:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from public.bta.net.cn (public.bta.net.cn [202.96.0.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B470137BD7F for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 18:12:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robinson@netrinsics.com) Received: from netrinsics.com (robinson@fw-24-151-a8.bta.net.cn [202.108.24.151]) by public.bta.net.cn (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23067 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:10:49 +0800 (GMT) Received: (from robinson@localhost) by netrinsics.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA26062 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:13:41 +0800 (+0800) (envelope-from robinson) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:13:41 +0800 (+0800) From: Michael Robinson Message-Id: <200003170213.KAA26062@netrinsics.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: How to force remote reboot of 3.4-Release? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Last night, I was running a very large Postgresql query on one of my colocated development servers when all of a sudden the session completely froze. Since then, I can get TCP connections to all the open ports, but they just hang with no services ever coming up. Ping works fine. I assume this is due to one of FreeBSD's resource starvation features. What I'd like to know is, once the server gets into this state, is it possible to exploit any of the other resource starvation features in 3.4-Release to force a reboot? Getting access to the server is a big pain in the rear, so I'd like to avoid the trip if at all possible. Would a SYN flood do it? If so, does anyone know of a good SYN flood tool? -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 18:15: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.kuzbassenergo.ru (ns.kuzbassenergo.ru [194.84.131.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C8537C3B9 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 18:14:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grigoryg@kuzbassenergo.ru) Received: from experiment.kec.kuzbassenergo.ru (wall.kuzbassenergo.ru [194.84.131.4]) by ns.kuzbassenergo.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA40904 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 09:14:14 +0700 (KRAT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 09:14:07 +0700 (KRS) From: Gutov Grigory To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG unsubscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 18:15:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.dbitech.bc.ca (i.caniserv.com [139.142.95.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7088D37BBDD for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 18:15:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from darcy@ok-connect.com) Received: (qmail 20552 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2000 02:15:31 -0000 Received: from ccliii.caniserv.com (HELO dbitech) (darcyb@139.142.95.253) by 139.142.95.10 with SMTP; 17 Mar 2000 02:15:31 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.32.20000316181721.01188250@mail.ok-connect.com> X-Sender: darcyb@mail.ok-connect.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 18:17:21 +0000 To: "Freebsd-Stable@Freebsd. Org" From: Darcy Buskermolen Subject: Bulidworld failure on RELENG_3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My buildworlds are failing on 3.x-STABLE On the stuff in /usr/src/contrib/libgmp/mpn/x86 With Can't find sysdep.h and asm-syntax.h To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 18:41:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D11C37BCC9 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 18:41:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brdavis@orion.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA09428; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 18:41:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 18:41:13 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: "Robert E. Lee" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4 installworld fails Message-ID: <20000316184113.A7551@orion.ac.hmc.edu> References: <20000316143345.B17940@orion.ac.hmc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre4i In-Reply-To: ; from rel@integratus.com on Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 06:29:26PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 06:29:26PM +0000, Robert E. Lee wrote: > On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Brooks Davis wrote: > > The answer is: > > > > make installworld -DNOINFO > > make installworld > > while attempting this, I got: > > su-2.03# make installworld -DNOINFO > > "/usr/src/Makefile", line 101: warning: "LC_TIME=C date" returned non-zero > status > *** Signal 12 > > Stop. > > Hopefully, I too am missing something 'easy'. That's not once I've seen before. Try replacing "make insatllworld -DNOINFO" with "make -k installworld" which should ignore the error. -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 20:19:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.mail.yahoo.com (smtp.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DB2EB37B886 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 20:19:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from navan_c@yahoo.com) Received: from dialupd242.mssl.uswest.net (HELO yahoo.com) (209.180.185.242) by smtp.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2000 20:19:31 -0800 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <38D1600D.7E277C70@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:28:29 -0700 From: Navan Carson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: Doug Barton , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions References: <4.3.2.20000316150239.00b82af0@207.227.119.2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:03 PM 3/16/00 -0800, Doug Barton wrote: >Also, I'd like to suggest modifying 'installkernel' to install the >kernel it builds as /kernel, rather than as /${KERNEL} (which usually >means /GENERIC). This bit me the first time, and even though it's >harmless not everyone is saavy enough to know how to boot a specific >kernel, or even to know where to look. I also would like to see this. Additionally, make world could control the kernel build and install. Navan --- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 21: 4:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC51637BCF5 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 21:04:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA21441; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 21:04:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <38D1BCF6.A44F50FF@gorean.org> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 21:04:54 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0315 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Eggert Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: top fails after "make world" References: <14545.31724.101083.516849@hbo.isi.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Lars Eggert wrote: > > Hi, > > I just did a "make world" and recompiled the kernel for 4.0-STABLE, > everything seems to work fine, except for top, which tells me: > > [hbo: ~] top > top: nlist failed > > I have a feeling I'm missing something really obvious here... When you say "recompile" does that include the steps "install and reboot" as well? Otherwise you are still out of synch. Doug -- "While the future's there for anyone to change, still you know it seems, it would be easier sometimes to change the past" - Jackson Browne, "Fountain of Sorrow" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 21:16:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7852137BC74 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 21:16:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA21487; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 21:15:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <38D1BF8D.7B6A72DB@gorean.org> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 21:15:57 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0315 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Darcy Buskermolen Cc: "Freebsd-Stable@Freebsd. Org" Subject: Re: Bulidworld failure on RELENG_3 References: <3.0.32.20000316181721.01188250@mail.ok-connect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Darcy Buskermolen wrote: > > My buildworlds are failing on 3.x-STABLE > On the stuff in /usr/src/contrib/libgmp/mpn/x86 > With Can't find sysdep.h and asm-syntax.h Try "cd /usr/include; rm -r *; cd /usr/src; make includes" Good luck, Doug -- "While the future's there for anyone to change, still you know it seems, it would be easier sometimes to change the past" - Jackson Browne, "Fountain of Sorrow" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 21:49:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1AD837BD2E; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 21:49:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA21649; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 21:49:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <38D1C75D.AEC542C2@gorean.org> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 21:49:17 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0315 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jamie Norwood Cc: Kris Kennaway , Oleg Ogurok , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: which branch? References: <20000316122126.A90676@mushhaven.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jamie Norwood wrote: > -STABLE is supposed to be safe to put on a server. If 4.x is .not. yet > safe... Why is it in -STABLE? This kinda bugs me as it fairly well defeats > the point of having a -STABLE if it isn't, in fact, stable. This happens every version update cycle. During the 2.2.x -> 3.0 update many of us asked for a new "description" of the "post new branch pseudo-release" branch. Something like -DEVEL, which conveys that it's not -CURRENT anymore, but not quite -STABLE either. It seems that suggestion was ignored. :) Doug -- "While the future's there for anyone to change, still you know it seems, it would be easier sometimes to change the past" - Jackson Browne, "Fountain of Sorrow" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 21:51:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 685BF37B7DC for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 21:51:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA75160; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 00:50:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 00:50:37 -0500 (EST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: David Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ep0 question In-Reply-To: <000f01bf8ebf$d9d00690$0201a8c0@DAVID> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, David wrote: > could just > device ep > in the kernel config file work now with RELENG_4 ? > it used to specify irq etc ? > is just that ok now ? Yes, the 'ep' driver is a bit smarter now and is able to find cards and resources all by itself. There are a few issues I'm working on but nothing anyone should run into in normal use. -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 22:11:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 116BC37B578 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 22:11:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sewall@ix.netcom.com) Received: from ix.netcom.com (sji-ca13-155.ix.netcom.com [209.109.238.155]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA04747; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 01:11:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38D1CC73.7E5524C1@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 22:11:00 -0800 From: "Scott R. Sewall" Organization: Rosetta software X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Robinson Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to force remote reboot of 3.4-Release? References: <200003170213.KAA26062@netrinsics.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I use neptune to generate SYN flood. Don't remember the download site. -- Scott Michael Robinson wrote: > Last night, I was running a very large Postgresql query on one of my > colocated development servers when all of a sudden the session completely > froze. Since then, I can get TCP connections to all the open ports, but > they just hang with no services ever coming up. Ping works fine. > > I assume this is due to one of FreeBSD's resource starvation features. > What I'd like to know is, once the server gets into this state, is it > possible to exploit any of the other resource starvation features in > 3.4-Release to force a reboot? Getting access to the server is a big > pain in the rear, so I'd like to avoid the trip if at all possible. > > Would a SYN flood do it? If so, does anyone know of a good SYN flood tool? > > -Michael Robinson > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 23:25:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ZGIA.zp.ua (ZGIA.zp.ua [212.35.173.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1F4E37B578 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 23:25:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from laa@zgia.zp.ua) Received: from localhost (laa@localhost) by ZGIA.zp.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA40871 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 09:03:10 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from laa@zgia.zp.ua) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 09:03:09 +0200 (EET) From: Alexandr Listopad To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: defaults/make.conf patch. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ? --- src/etc/defaults/make.conf~ Fri Mar 17 08:56:45 2000 +++ src/etc/defaults/make.conf Fri Mar 17 09:00:10 2000 @@ -225,3 +225,8 @@ # /etc/passwd. The default number is 20011. # #TOP_TABLE_SIZE= 101 +# +# DOC_LANG - select your default list of languages to build and install +# docs. +# +#DOC_LANG= ru_RU.KOI8-R en_US.ISO_8859-1 -- Laa. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 1:32: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ddg.com (eunuch.ddg.com [216.30.58.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F392437B785; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 01:32:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rkw@dataplex.net) Received: from eel (24.28.73.238) by mail.ddg.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.1); Fri, 17 Mar 2000 03:32:01 -0600 From: Richard Wackerbarth To: Doug Barton Subject: Re: which branch? Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 03:20:34 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000316122126.A90676@mushhaven.net> <38D1C75D.AEC542C2@gorean.org> In-Reply-To: <38D1C75D.AEC542C2@gorean.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00031703320100.00854@eel> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Doug Barton wrote: > This happens every version update cycle. During the 2.2.x -> 3.0 update > many of us asked for a new "description" of the "post new branch > pseudo-release" branch. Something like -DEVEL, which conveys that it's > not -CURRENT anymore, but not quite -STABLE either. It seems that > suggestion was ignored. :) Right idea, but the wrong order. We should have 5-DEVEL and leave 4-CURRENT. Or, if there is opposition to using -current both before and after the release, how about 4-RECENT or 4-LATEST? However, I personally prefer simply "4" with no add on. The "current" could still be used for the mailing list. From previous correspondence, I thought that Jordan was going to do something along these lines. But, as usual, it never happens when it should. Then it is "too late". Speaking of mailing lists, we REALLY need an additional list. It is unfair, and confusing, to have no solidly distinct lists for the 3.x, 4.x and 5.x branches. I would propose that we create a new list for either 4 or 5 and automatically subscribe all "-current" subscribers to both lists. They can then "opt out" (unsubscribe) if they are not interested in both lists. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 2: 9:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CC2B37B5CB; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 02:09:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA44355; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 05:09:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 05:09:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Brad Knowles Cc: Warner Losh , Glen Gross , Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Brad Knowles wrote: > Unfortunately, there are *way* too many people who are ready to >jump on the .0 release, and there's not likely to be too much you can >do to protect them from blowing off their foot in this fashion. I've long wondered if there's not a better word than RELEASE to append to these .0 versions. Perhaps 4.0-BETA or something equally scary will keep the enterprise users away from a .0 version. ------------------------------------------------------------- | -Brandon D. Valentine bandix at looksharp.net | bandix on EFnet IRC BVRiker on AIM ------------------------------------------------------------- | "...and as for hackers, we note that all of those known to | The Register are so strapped financially that seizing their | property would be tantamount to squeezing blood from a | stone." -- The Register, 02/17/2000 ------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 2:29: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C10F137B5F4; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 02:29:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA69130; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 02:29:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 02:29:00 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: "Brandon D. Valentine" Cc: Brad Knowles , Warner Losh , Glen Gross , Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: > I've long wondered if there's not a better word than RELEASE to append > to these .0 versions. Perhaps 4.0-BETA or something equally scary > will keep the enterprise users away from a .0 version. Yeah, it'd also keep everyone else away from it too, and we'd have the same problems whenever it was that the BETA label was finally dropped, and people would complain because a product which was just out of beta had bugs, and should have stayed in beta longer :) Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 2:50:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shemp.palomine.net (shemp.palomine.net [205.198.88.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EF2F737B616 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 02:50:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjohnson@palomine.net) Received: (qmail 71946 invoked by uid 1000); 17 Mar 2000 10:50:45 -0000 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 05:50:45 -0500 From: Chris Johnson To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: NO_SENDMAIL ignored in 4.0-STABLE? Message-ID: <20000317055045.A71810@palomine.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I use qmail on all my boxes, and have always defined "NO_SENDMAIL= true" in /etc/make.conf (on 3.x boxes) to keep make world from clobbering my /usr/sbin/sendmail->/var/qmail/bin/sendmail and /usr/bin/mail->/var/qmail/bin/qmail-qread symlinks. On a new 4.0-STABLE box, I've defined "NO_SENDMAIL= true" in /etc/defaults/make.conf, but it appears that sendmail is installed anyway, and I have to remake my symlinks. Am I missing something here, or is something broken? Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 2:59: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axl.ops.uunet.co.za (axl.ops.uunet.co.za [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F251137BC20 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 02:59:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.ops.uunet.co.za) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.ops.uunet.co.za) by axl.ops.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12VuSx-000GzG-00; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 12:58:51 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Chris Johnson Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NO_SENDMAIL ignored in 4.0-STABLE? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 17 Mar 2000 05:50:45 EST." <20000317055045.A71810@palomine.net> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 12:58:51 +0200 Message-ID: <65301.953290731@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 05:50:45 EST, Chris Johnson wrote: > I use qmail on all my boxes, and have always defined "NO_SENDMAIL= true" in > /etc/make.conf (on 3.x boxes) to keep make world from clobbering my > /usr/sbin/sendmail->/var/qmail/bin/sendmail and > /usr/bin/mail->/var/qmail/bin/qmail-qread symlinks. What you're missing is that /usr/sbin/sendmail as installed during a ``make world'' isn't sendmail. It's mailwrapper(8). Although I'll be adding a "NO_MAILWRAPPER" knob to make.conf, you don't need it. You just need to read up on how mailwrapper works. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised, since mailwrappper makes those icky symlinks completely unnecessary. :-) Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 3:22:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E28C37B768 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 03:22:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12Vup3-000Kbs-00; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:21:41 +0200 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:21:41 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: "Robert E. Lee" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_4 installworld fails Message-ID: <20000317132140.C76665@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <20000316143345.B17940@orion.ac.hmc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu 2000-03-16 (18:29), Robert E. Lee wrote: > while attempting this, I got: > > su-2.03# make installworld -DNOINFO > > "/usr/src/Makefile", line 101: warning: "LC_TIME=C date" returned non-zero > status > *** Signal 12 > > Stop. > > Hopefully, I too am missing something 'easy'. You haven't built and aren't running a 4.0-STABLE kernel at this stage, are you? Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 5: 4:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ZGIA.zp.ua (ZGIA.zp.ua [212.35.173.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF1037BD86 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 05:04:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from laa@zgia.zp.ua) Received: from localhost (laa@localhost) by ZGIA.zp.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA47105; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 15:01:34 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from laa@zgia.zp.ua) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 15:01:34 +0200 (EET) From: Alexandr Listopad To: Chris Johnson Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NO_SENDMAIL ignored in 4.0-STABLE? In-Reply-To: <20000317055045.A71810@palomine.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I use qmail on all my boxes, and have always defined "NO_SENDMAIL= true" in >/etc/make.conf (on 3.x boxes) to keep make world from clobbering my >/usr/sbin/sendmail->/var/qmail/bin/sendmail and >/usr/bin/mail->/var/qmail/bin/qmail-qread symlinks. > >On a new 4.0-STABLE box, I've defined "NO_SENDMAIL= true" in >/etc/defaults/make.conf, but it appears that sendmail is installed anyway, and >I have to remake my symlinks. > >Am I missing something here, or is something broken? You shouldn't edit /etc/defaults/*.conf files, try to edit this files in /etc - /etc/make.conf, /etc/rc.conf > >Chris > -- Laa. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 7:35:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E22437BDFA for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 07:35:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8F3E898 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:35:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA21957; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:35:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14546.20672.830493.146521@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:35:28 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to force remote reboot of 3.4-Release? In-Reply-To: <200003170213.KAA26062@netrinsics.com> References: <200003170213.KAA26062@netrinsics.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "MR" == Michael Robinson writes: MR> possible to exploit any of the other resource starvation features in MR> 3.4-Release to force a reboot? Getting access to the server is a big MR> pain in the rear, so I'd like to avoid the trip if at all possible. BSD/OS has a feature called a deadman timer that can be used in such situations. If the timer expires, the kernel "panics" and reboots. For network-critical machines, one would have a remote process that connects and rests the timer periodically. If the remote machine cannot connect, the timer will run out and reboot. This is one feature I'd like to see merged in from the BSD/OS kernel... ;-) Not that it helps your immediate problem, sorry. But better planning by having an SSH daemon running so you can connect via that even if inetd is not responding would be a good idea. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 PGP & MIME spoken here http://www.kciLink.com/home/khera/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 8: 7:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ulysses.noc.ntua.gr (ulysses.noc.ntua.gr [147.102.222.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA2837B78F for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:07:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr) Received: from dblab.ece.ntua.gr (ithaca.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr [147.102.12.1]) by ulysses.noc.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA31363; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 18:07:06 +0200 (EET) Received: from mbazo.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr (mbazo.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr [147.102.12.8]) by dblab.ece.ntua.gr (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e2HG75Y91631; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 18:07:05 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <200003171607.e2HG75Y91631@dblab.ece.ntua.gr> From: Yiorgos Adamopoulos Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 18:07:05 +0200 To: Vivek Khera Subject: Re: How to force remote reboot of 3.4-Release? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <14546.20672.830493.146521@onceler.kcilink.com> References: <14546.20672.830493.146521@onceler.kcilink.com> <200003170213.KAA26062@netrinsics.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: Priority: NORMAL X-Mailer: Execmail for Win32 Version 5.0.1 Build (55) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:35:28 -0500 (EST) Vivek Khera wrote: > MR> possible to exploit any of the other resource starvation features in > MR> 3.4-Release to force a reboot? Getting access to the server is a big > MR> pain in the rear, so I'd like to avoid the trip if at all possible. Once I was left out with no TTYs so I could not login. But I could NFS mount as root / and edited /etc/crontab to schedule a reboot -- Yiorgos Adamopoulos, adamo@ieee.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 8:21:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A92337B631; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:21:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (dcs@p39-dn02kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [211.0.245.104]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) with ESMTP id BAA14486; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 01:21:21 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <38D25B2D.B442D523@newsguy.com> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 01:19:57 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sobomax@mail.ru Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gcc -Os optimisation broken (RELENG_4) References: <38CF48CF.59A100D7@altavista.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Maxim Sobolev wrote: > > I've just upgraded my production server to the 4.0-RELEASE and found that > squid23 when compiled with -Os option dying with signal 11 on each attempt to > load page. When I recompiled it with -O fault disappeared. After some digging > into the sources with gdb I found that fault came from dereferencing NULL > pointer somewhere in the DNS query procedures. I've tracked the source of this > pointer and found that the function rfc1035QuestionPack (rfc1035.c) called from > rfc1035BuildAQuery receives NULL pointer instead of the supplied hostname as a > 3rd argument. Following is two debugging sessions with squid compiled with -Os > and -O (faulty call is in the end of the output): Well... where is "name" being set? That would help. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 8:31:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from seu.edu.cn (seic3.seu.edu.cn [202.119.24.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B51137BF0B for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:30:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsdmaillist@263.net) Received: from dryice ([202.119.9.77]) by seu.edu.cn (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA28127 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 00:30:27 +0800 (CST) Message-Id: <200003171630.AAA28127@seu.edu.cn> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 0:30:23 +0800 From: dryice liu To: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Subject: X-mailer: FoxMail 3.0 beta 2 [cn] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 9:29:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37D2D37BEFD for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 09:29:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca ([204.244.186.218]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12W0Yg-0002Bx-00; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 09:29:10 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 09:29:08 -0800 (PST) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Michael Robinson Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to force remote reboot of 3.4-Release? In-Reply-To: <200003170213.KAA26062@netrinsics.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Michael Robinson wrote: > Last night, I was running a very large Postgresql query on one of my > colocated development servers when all of a sudden the session completely > froze. Since then, I can get TCP connections to all the open ports, but > they just hang with no services ever coming up. Ping works fine. > > I assume this is due to one of FreeBSD's resource starvation features. > What I'd like to know is, once the server gets into this state, is it > possible to exploit any of the other resource starvation features in > 3.4-Release to force a reboot? Getting access to the server is a big > pain in the rear, so I'd like to avoid the trip if at all possible. > > Would a SYN flood do it? If so, does anyone know of a good SYN flood tool? > > -Michael Robinson It sounds like a disk hang actually. If you had access to the console you'd probably see various disk warnings/errors. There are no known remote reboot exploits. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 9:34: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF76937BF6D for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 09:33:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA21279; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:33:05 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-65.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.65) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma021276; Fri Mar 17 11:32:41 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20000317110436.00a9f580@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:30:23 -0600 To: Richard Wackerbarth From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: which branch? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <00031703320100.00854@eel> References: <38D1C75D.AEC542C2@gorean.org> <20000316122126.A90676@mushhaven.net> <38D1C75D.AEC542C2@gorean.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 03:20 AM 3/17/00 -0600, Richard Wackerbarth wrote: >On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Doug Barton wrote: > > > This happens every version update cycle. During the 2.2.x -> 3.0 > update > > many of us asked for a new "description" of the "post new branch > > pseudo-release" branch. Something like -DEVEL, which conveys that it's > > not -CURRENT anymore, but not quite -STABLE either. It seems that > > suggestion was ignored. :) > >Right idea, but the wrong order. We should have 5-DEVEL and leave 4-CURRENT. >Or, if there is opposition to using -current both before and after the >release, >how about 4-RECENT or 4-LATEST? However, I personally prefer simply "4" >with no >add on. The "current" could still be used for the mailing list. Bleh... Just a matter of using different words that mean the same thing. > >From previous correspondence, I thought that Jordan was going to do > something >along these lines. But, as usual, it never happens when it should. Then it is >"too late". > >Speaking of mailing lists, we REALLY need an additional list. It is >unfair, and >confusing, to have no solidly distinct lists for the 3.x, 4.x and 5.x >branches. What makes it confusing. There is a distinct list for 5.x, but having 3.x and 4.x stable on the same list should help migration, IMO. Those that are migrating have no need to track and later change to a different list. The average volume of -stable is much lower than -current, so to me I read the need to separate 3.x and 4.x as a too-much-mail complaint. Most people that post problems to state which version they are running, as well as their last update. Eliminates the need for cross posting messages that would affect both -stable versions or when a "heads up" is called by a MFC. Those that maintain both 3.x and 4.x systems can post problems affecting either/or/both versions for the same reason and don't have to track 2 lists. >I would propose that we create a new list for either 4 or 5 and automatically >subscribe all "-current" subscribers to both lists. They can then "opt out" >(unsubscribe) if they are not interested in both lists. Fact of the matter is that if, when subscribing, the subscriber actually read what the list if for, then they would know which list(s) to subscribe to. Changing the names would do little for this. Using the release number might help, but then we all know that someone will be asking the where and when of the 5.x version. "Well, it was the highest number." To be fair we would need a 2-stable list. There are some that still run 2.x for various reasons and occasionally a message is posted to -stable. Yes, they are told to upgrade and with 3.x and 4.x combined the same thing can be done for those needs that are better served on 4.x, like NFS for example. Leave -current alone and should a 3-stable and 4-stable appear, they will just end up in the same folder. .02 Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 10: 0:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua (ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua [212.9.224.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A22537BBFE; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:00:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sobomax@altavista.net) Received: from vega.vega.com (dialup5-41.iptelecom.net.ua [212.9.227.41]) by ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA28490; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 20:04:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from altavista.net (big_brother.vega.com [192.168.1.1]) by vega.vega.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA03226; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:34:13 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@altavista.net) Message-ID: <38D26C93.A897F093@altavista.net> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:34:11 +0200 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Vega International Capital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: uk,ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: sobomax@mail.ru, current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gcc -Os optimisation broken (RELENG_4) References: <38CF48CF.59A100D7@altavista.net> <38D25B2D.B442D523@newsguy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: > Maxim Sobolev wrote: > > > > I've just upgraded my production server to the 4.0-RELEASE and found that > > squid23 when compiled with -Os option dying with signal 11 on each attempt to > > load page. When I recompiled it with -O fault disappeared. After some digging > > into the sources with gdb I found that fault came from dereferencing NULL > > pointer somewhere in the DNS query procedures. I've tracked the source of this > > pointer and found that the function rfc1035QuestionPack (rfc1035.c) called from > > rfc1035BuildAQuery receives NULL pointer instead of the supplied hostname as a > > 3rd argument. Following is two debugging sessions with squid compiled with -Os > > and -O (faulty call is in the end of the output): > > Well... where is "name" being set? That would help. It is not clear what do you mean, please explain. -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 10: 4:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ddg.com (eunuch.ddg.com [216.30.58.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038F037BF9A for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:04:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rkw@dataplex.net) Received: from eel (24.28.73.101) by mail.ddg.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.1); Fri, 17 Mar 2000 12:04:05 -0600 From: Richard Wackerbarth To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: which branch? Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:39:48 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <38D1C75D.AEC542C2@gorean.org> <4.3.2.20000317110436.00a9f580@207.227.119.2> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20000317110436.00a9f580@207.227.119.2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00031712040402.01121@eel> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > Bleh... > > Just a matter of using different words that mean the same thing. No! To the newcomers, the WORDS have conotations. Historically, the developers have established a terminology that confuses new users and causes them to choose the wrong version. To most new users, STABLE is something that is ready for PRODUCTION use. CURRENT is the a recent release. DEVELOPMENT, ALPHA, BETA, etc. are pre-release. If we want to grow market share (and we NEED that if FreeBSD is to be more than a sandbox), the first impression is important. I think that it is important PR to change the name of the head branch. > >Speaking of mailing lists, we REALLY need an additional list. It is > >unfair, and confusing, to have no solidly distinct lists for the 3.x, 4.x > >and 5.x branches. > > What makes it confusing. There is a distinct list for 5.x, but having 3.x > and 4.x stable on the same list should help migration, IMO. People are accustomed to using "current" for 4.x. They should not have to change mailing lists just because a new head branch was developed. As for "volume" of mail on stable, there are a number of readers who don't want to be bothered with the still high volume of problems that are occuring in 4.0-UNSTABLE. Heads-up messages should correspond 1-1 with the repository commits. To change both 3.x and 4.x requires two separate commits. Therefore there should be two messages (one to each list) > Those that are migrating have no need to track and later change to a > different list. I don't suggest that they do. When migrating, they should join and review the list of the new system. > Fact of the matter is that if, when subscribing, the subscriber actually > read what the list if for, then they would know which list(s) to subscribe > to. Changing the names would do little for this. Using the release number > might help, but then we all know that someone will be asking the where and > when of the 5.x version. "Well, it was the highest number." Actually, I would make 5.x a weak alias to the development list. and turn it into a real list (advertise its existence, etc) only when we approach the testing phase before a release. > > To be fair we would need a 2-stable list. I see no problem with that. It would have virtually no traffic except for security announcements, etc. OTOH, it could also become an alias to the "unsupported" list. > Leave -current alone and should a 3-stable and 4-stable appear, they will > just end up in the same folder. I don't think that is the best approach for the NON-DEVELOPER newbies. It's far easier to get knowledgable developers to make a one-time change than it is to keep repeating the FAQ to newbies over and over. 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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF904A.7524F840-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 12:34: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fLuFFy.iNt.tElE.dK (fw1.inet.tele.dk [193.163.158.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 330C737B724; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 12:33:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kvindeservice@fluffy.gets.an.analprobe.dk) Received: from localhost (kvindeservice@localhost) by fLuFFy.iNt.tElE.dK (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA78031; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 21:33:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kvindeservice@fluffy.gets.an.analprobe.dk) X-Authentication-Warning: fLuFFy.iNt.tElE.dK: kvindeservice owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 21:33:44 +0100 (CET) From: BEWARE OF DOGS X-Sender: kvindeservice@fLuFFy.iNt.tElE.dK Reply-To: FreeBSD@netscum.dk To: current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Soundcard support, or something Message-ID: X-Pedophile: BARRY BOUWSMA IS A ROGUE-CANCELLING AND REPOSTING PEDOPHILE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Moin moin, I guess that -current is now -stable, and so is -stable, but the tests I made were on -current before it became -release, as well as on -stable before it was usurped by -devel, or something, my brane hertz, so I'm sending this to both -current and -stable, even though I bet both lists are frequented by mostly the same hackerz. So tell me I should have sent this to -multimedia instead.... Anyway, I spent last night with a stack of sound cards and a dual-boot machine with 3.4-stable and 4.0-current as of about a week ago, more or less, to try and figure why I failed so miserably with audio recording last week at this time. In short, 4.0-current (and I will bet good money on 5.0-current too) failed pretty miserably with audio recording from all cards, while most were successful (with some limitations) under 3.4-stable. Pilot error should not be dismissed. On the other hand, all cards tested were successful with playback of pre-recorded .wav files, although the mixer interface (aumix) sometimes left something to be desired. Maybe this info will be helpful to someone... I used the pcm k0dez exclusively in -current and 3.4, no Voxware was harmed for this test. Recording was made with a somewhat-hacked version of brec-0.96 or -0.99, with adjustments made to SHM/SEM options in the kernel config file. First, under 3.4-stable, one card that was detected under -current was not found -- some Vibra 16S Soundforte card with what appears to be an on-board FM tuner. * Secondly, again under 3.4-stable, all the soundblaster ISA cards that I tried only recorded a mono sum signal from both left and right input (line) channels. This included a gen-u-wine SB16, a Vibra 16, and an AWE 64. All these were reported at boot as SB16pnp, so there is no doubt some simple toggle to make all of them record stereo and suddenly become useful to me for audio input. The two Soundblaster PCI cards I tried, recorded stereo cleanly under 3.4, matching my previous experience with them in production machines without problems. I've just tossed in the 16 PCI now and have not thoroughly tested the mixer; however, I can say that the aumix program on the 128 PCI (or PCI 128? I know one of them is backwards) has the problem: When I attempt to select the recording source with the space bar (to switch from mic to line), aumix exits with SOUND_MIXER_WRITE_RECSRC. When restarted, the desired change was in fact made. (I can't remember if I see this with -current) I tried one other card that might be supported, a Crystal CS4235 chip on a card whose number I know not, and it was pretty much the same under both 3.4 and -current: Playback (line) worked, the line input was controlled as synth on the mixer, I might have fried the mic input since I never got sound from that, but aumix fails to select the desired source. I had to use the commandline `mixer' and use `=rec line' -- I think aumix tries to use the equivalent of `+rec' which, with this card, always resets the source to mic. However, I never actually got any sound from the line input to the recorded file no matter what I did. I think I used this card a couple years ago under Linux for audio input. Now, on to -current and newpcm: No card resulted in a clean clear recording the way most/all did under 3.4. Here are the results of each: * The SB 128 PCI recorded a sound with a continuous crackly static in the background of audible passages, the level of this depended on the audio level and the static was inaudible with silence. * The PCI 16 had almost a clean sound, so I don't think I botched the compilation of the audio recording program too much. It was not totally clean, with a repeating burst of static every few seconds, kinda like a vinyl record with a bunch of dirt in a stripe across the grooves. The CS4235 card performed (or didn't) as above, with the difference that the recorded silent file seemed to have a bit of static-like noise. * All the SB 16 cards -- the AWE 64, the Soundforte SF16, the SB 16, and the Vibra 16 sounded AWFUL. The recorded .wav file sounded like a chainsaw on overdrive, with no evidence of the audio source. It's real kewl, but somehow not quite exactly what I'm looking for. There are a few minor notes about the performance of aumix with each card, but they pale in comparison with the dirty audio I recorded. I can probably get my mitts all over a Gravis Ultrasound card that worked ... interestingly ... under 3.4 Voxware, but I never tried it under -current newpcm. My conclusion is that nope, I can't toss -current onto a production machine with my at-hand selection of soundcards for recording, and that I'll have to stay with 3.4 for any sound work for now. The only problem irking me with 3.4 is that all the ISA Soundblaster 16 cards that I have only record a mono sum signal, which I never caught in many weeks of production use. Argh. Neither -current nor 3.4 had playback problems with the supported cards. Now, I bet I should followup to this one card at a time on the multi- media list, no? barry bouwms,a, tle danmark internet (a la Reply-To header) -- *** This was posted with the express permission of *** ****************************************************** ** HIS HIGHNESS KAAZMANN LORD AND MASTER OF USENET ** ****************************************************** ********* We are simple servants of his will ********* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 12:37: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29CC437B82A; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 12:36:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (dcs@p39-dn02kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [211.0.245.104]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) with ESMTP id EAA11952; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 04:32:05 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <38D287E0.59990EE3@newsguy.com> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 04:30:40 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Maxim Sobolev Cc: sobomax@mail.ru, current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gcc -Os optimisation broken (RELENG_4) References: <38CF48CF.59A100D7@altavista.net> <38D25B2D.B442D523@newsguy.com> <38D26C93.A897F093@altavista.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Maxim Sobolev wrote: > > > Well... where is "name" being set? That would help. > > It is not clear what do you mean, please explain. "name" is the name of the variable that is passed as NULL when compiled with -Os. In the code trace you posted, we do not see any reference to this variable up to the point where the function is called. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 13:55: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from boris.netgate.net (boris.netgate.net [204.145.147.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5171E37B6CD for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:54:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsddave@mrcaffeine.com) Received: from localhost (wellsian@localhost) by boris.netgate.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA50609; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:51:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsddave@mrcaffeine.com) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:51:42 -0800 (PST) From: fbsd-dave X-Sender: wellsian@boris.netgate.net To: Michael Robinson Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to force remote reboot of 3.4-Release? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Have you considered a remote power control device? Like: http://www.baytechdcd.com/ http://www.apcc.com/products/pdu.cfm Dave On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Tom wrote: > On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Michael Robinson wrote: > > > Last night, I was running a very large Postgresql query on one of my > > colocated development servers when all of a sudden the session completely > > froze. Since then, I can get TCP connections to all the open ports, but > > they just hang with no services ever coming up. Ping works fine. > > > > I assume this is due to one of FreeBSD's resource starvation features. > > What I'd like to know is, once the server gets into this state, is it > > possible to exploit any of the other resource starvation features in > > 3.4-Release to force a reboot? Getting access to the server is a big > > pain in the rear, so I'd like to avoid the trip if at all possible. > > > > Would a SYN flood do it? If so, does anyone know of a good SYN flood tool? > > > > -Michael Robinson > > It sounds like a disk hang actually. If you had access to the console > you'd probably see various disk warnings/errors. > > There are no known remote reboot exploits. > > > Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 16: 4: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE89537B82A for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 16:03:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from boshea@ricochet.net) Received: from beastie.localdomain ([24.19.158.41]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <20000318000359.DEIO21475.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@beastie.localdomain>; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 16:03:59 -0800 Received: (from brian@localhost) by beastie.localdomain (8.9.3/8.8.7) id QAA73140; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 16:13:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 16:13:39 -0800 From: "Brian O'Shea" To: Michael Robinson Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to force remote reboot of 3.4-Release? Message-ID: <20000317161339.F56986@beastie.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: Michael Robinson , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200003170213.KAA26062@netrinsics.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <200003170213.KAA26062@netrinsics.com>; from Michael Robinson on Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 10:13:41AM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 10:13:41AM +0800, Michael Robinson wrote: > > Would a SYN flood do it? If so, does anyone know of a good SYN flood tool? > I would recommend against launching a SYN flood attack on your system. Depending on who you share a network segement with, you could annoy a whole lot of people with the traffic that this would generate. Also, it probably won't have the desired effect. SYN flood attacks are not designed to crash a system, they are used by vandals to deny service to a particular host or network. The remote power control devices that people have been recommending are much better solutions to this problem. Does your colo provider offer a port on a terminal server that you could use to connect to a serial console on your FreeBSD box? If so, there are serial console cards out there that might be ideal for your situation, although at a cost. Check out the following: http://www.realweasel.com/ http://developer.intel.com/design/servers/ipmi/ http://www.enitek.com/j1/ (caviat emptor: I have no experience with any of these) -brian -- Brian O'Shea boshea@ricochet.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 16:21:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from primex.prontel.net (primex.prontel.net [216.242.25.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C54337B512; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 16:21:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from netadmin@primex.prontel.net) Received: from sysop1 (matrix.prontel.net [216.242.25.4]) by primex.prontel.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA63293; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:22:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from netadmin@primex.prontel.net) From: "Lester A. Mesa" To: Cc: Subject: Desperate help upgrading from 3.2-R > 3.4-S Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:21:12 -0500 Message-ID: <000d01bf906f$de1745e0$38040a0a@prontel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Disposition-Notification-To: "Lester A. Mesa" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For the last week I have been trying to upgrade 2 already configure and running 3.2-RELEASE servers to 3.4-STABLE since when I try to install something from the ports I get the following error: ===> apache-1.3.12 : Your system is too old to use this bsd.port.mk. You need a fresh make world or an upgrade kit. Please go to http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/ or a mirror site and follow the instructions. I already try cvsuping the ports-supfile and that did not work. That's why I'm trying to go with 3.4-STABLE or the most stable freebsd version. I'm following all the directions on the http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/stable.html web page and everything on the http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/makeworld.html This are exactly the steps I'm taking to upgrade the machine (in case I'm misunderstanding something after reading the instruction. 1): cd /usr/share/examples/cvsup ; cvsup -g -L 2 stable-supfile (stable-supfile file) *default host=cvsup5.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3 *default delete use-rel-suffix src-all src-crypto src-eBones src-secure 2): cd /usr/obj ; chflags -R noschg * ; rm -rf * 3): cd /usr/src ; make buildworld (/etc/make.conf file) NOPROFILE= true COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe USA_RESIDENT= YES FORCE_PKG_REGISTER= YES and while running the make buildworld is where I get the following error: ===> share/doc/usd/13.viref sed -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ ]*\)\(vi.ref\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/ docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ ]*\)\(ex.cmd.roff\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib /nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ ]*\)\(ref.so\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/ docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ ]*\)\(set.opt.roff\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contri b/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ ]*\)\(vi.cmd.roff\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib /nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e 's:^\.so index.so$::' /usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/ vi.ref | groff -mtty-char -Tascii -t -s -me -o1- > /dev/null troff: fatal error: can't find macro file safer *** Error code 1 Stop. ANY body knows why? or what do I have to do to make this work? I did notice that the " troff: fatal error: can't find macro file safer " error started here: ===> share/doc/psd/title touch _stamp.extraobjs (cd /usr/src/share/doc/psd/title; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -ms -o1- /usr/src/share/doc/psd/title/Title) | gzip -cn > Title.ascii.gz troff: fatal error: can't find macro file safer PLEASE if any can give me any input on the problem I will appreciate it so much, I need to get this 2 servers up and running ASAP. Thank you all in advanced for the input. Lester A. Mesa Internet Information Manager lmesa@prontel.com Prontel Corporation Internet Division http://www.prontel.com Toll Free: 1-800-920-0920 Ext 206 Outside US: 1+ (305) 406-9055 Ext 206 Fax Number: 1+ (305) 406-9056 " Prontel Complete Internet Solutions " To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 16:49:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from charon.ipass.net (charon.ipass.net [198.79.53.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4C937B597 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 16:49:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-177.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.177]) by charon.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA12190 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:49:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id TAA24337 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:51:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:51:56 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Dynamic linker bug in 3.4-RELEASE (I think) Message-ID: <20000317195156.A24243@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a small program I wrote that uses sigwait and takes about 1 second to complete. If I run it over-and-over many times repeatedly, occasionally the dynamic linker will fail to resolve the "sigwait" symbol. Here is how I run it in tcsh: while (1) hw4-1 > /dev/null echo Done end And here is some output from the shell: ... Done Done Done Done Done Done Done Done Done /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: hw4-1: Undefined symbol "sigwait" Done Done Done Done Done Done Done Done ... Is this a bug? Already fixed? Or should I file a PR. Thanks, Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 16:53: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from charon.ipass.net (charon.ipass.net [198.79.53.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 866D237B925 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 16:53:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-177.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.177]) by charon.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA12505 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:52:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id TAA26304 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:55:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:55:26 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Missing man pages: ld.so, sigwait() Message-ID: <20000317195526.A24340@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG sigwait is available but there's no man page. Also I don't find one for ld.so, though it's mentioned in the ldd man page. Worth a PR? Randall # grep sigwait /usr/include/signal.h int sigwait __P((const sigset_t *, int *)); int sigwaitinfo __P((const sigset_t *, siginfo_t *)); # apropos sigwait sigwait: nothing appropriate # man sigwait No manual entry for sigwait # apropos ld.so ld.so: nothing appropriate # man ld.so No manual entry for ld.so To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 16:54: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E02D837B632 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 16:54:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca ([204.244.186.218]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12W7V9-000Bpd-00; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 16:53:59 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 16:53:54 -0800 (PST) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Randall Hopper Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dynamic linker bug in 3.4-RELEASE (I think) In-Reply-To: <20000317195156.A24243@ipass.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Randall Hopper wrote: > I have a small program I wrote that uses sigwait and takes about 1 second > to complete. > > If I run it over-and-over many times repeatedly, occasionally the dynamic > linker will fail to resolve the "sigwait" symbol. > > Here is how I run it in tcsh: > > while (1) > hw4-1 > /dev/null > echo Done > end > > And here is some output from the shell: > > ... > Done > Done > Done > Done > Done > Done > Done > Done > Done > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: hw4-1: Undefined symbol "sigwait" > Done > Done > Done > Done > Done > Done > Done > Done > ... > > Is this a bug? Already fixed? Or should I file a PR. > > Thanks, > > Randall I think it is more likely you are exceeding your limit on number of file descriptors, so the dynamic linker isn't able to open the libraries. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 17: 4:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id F29CF37BAE6; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 17:04:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFEC22E814A; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 17:04:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@hub.freebsd.org) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 17:04:38 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: "Lester A. Mesa" Cc: asmodai@freebsd.org, stable@Freebsd.org Subject: Re: Desperate help upgrading from 3.2-R > 3.4-S In-Reply-To: <000d01bf906f$de1745e0$38040a0a@prontel.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Lester A. Mesa wrote: > and while running the make buildworld is where I get the following error: > > ===> share/doc/usd/13.viref > sed -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ > ]*\)\(vi.ref\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/ > docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ > ]*\)\(ex.cmd.roff\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib > /nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ > ]*\)\(ref.so\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/ > docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ > ]*\)\(set.opt.roff\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contri > b/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ > ]*\)\(vi.cmd.roff\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib > /nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e 's:^\.so index.so$::' > /usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/ > vi.ref | groff -mtty-char -Tascii -t -s -me -o1- > /dev/null > troff: fatal error: can't find macro file safer > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > ANY body knows why? or what do I have to do to make this work? These seemed to start showing up after asmodai's recent groff changes - several other people have had the same problem. I haven't seen any followup commits or messages addressing the problem yet - asmodai? Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 17:15:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.bna.bellsouth.net (mail1.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE59037B91B for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 17:15:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from discover.siteplus.net (host-209-215-9-197.cha.bellsouth.net [209.215.9.197]) by mail1.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id UAA20973 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 20:15:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 20:15:26 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Weeks To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Desperate help upgrading from 3.2-R > 3.4-S In-Reply-To: <000d01bf906f$de1745e0$38040a0a@prontel.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This may be your problem. You either need to specify all, or each one individually. I have had trouble using the all option > src-all > src-crypto > src-eBones > src-secure You shouldn't need to use this in 3.x-stable > USA_RESIDENT= YES It is not necessary to upgrade from 3.2 if you are just trying to install a package. You can install the upgrade package, ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-3-stable/Latest/32upgrade.tgz You should then be able to install ports. If you still want to upgrade to 3.4 try cleaning /etc/obj and /usr/src and use this cvsupfile *default host=cvsup5.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs *default tag=RELENG_3 *default delete use-rel-suffix src-base src-bin src-contrib src-crypto src-etc src-games src-gnu src-include src-kerberosIV src-lib src-libexec src-release src-sbin src-secure src-share src-sys src-tools src-usrbin src-usrsbin *default tag=. ports-all doc-all Hope this helps, Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 19: 9: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 742AC37BA08; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:09:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (dcs@p09-dn01kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [211.0.245.10]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) with ESMTP id MAA08051; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:06:18 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <38D2F016.FFF29D3D@newsguy.com> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:55:19 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warner Losh Cc: Marcel Moolenaar , Doug Barton , Josef Karthauser , Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions References: <38D00D51.D0781868@cup.hp.com> <200003152159.OAA89926@harmony.village.org> <200003152226.PAA90110@harmony.village.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Warner Losh wrote: > > When I tried the installkernel it installed things as /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > > I'll have to update things. Well, for people who like to build multiple kernels like me, the above works... :-) Alas, I have kernel="/DCS" in my /boot/loader.conf. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 19:10:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC49637B9F7; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (dcs@p09-dn01kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [211.0.245.10]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) with ESMTP id MAA08019; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:06:10 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <38D2EFD3.78C93220@newsguy.com> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:54:11 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcel Moolenaar Cc: Warner Losh , Doug Barton , Josef Karthauser , Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions References: <200003152159.OAA89926@harmony.village.org> <38D00D51.D0781868@cup.hp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > You can make a kernel like this: > cd /usr/src > make buildkernel KERNEL=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > > The new `buildkernel' and `installkernel' targets make use of the tools > build by buildworld and effectively works around the bootstrap problem. IIRC, /etc/defaults/make.conf refers to KERNEL=your multiple kernels here, but that doesn't work for the install target (the strip doesn't work, I think). -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 20:59:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from polaris.shore.net (polaris.shore.net [207.244.124.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D1F37BB5D for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 20:59:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tjlegg@shore.net) Received: from eskimos.the-eleven.com [207.244.92.51] by polaris.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org id 12WBKh-0000GD-00; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 23:59:28 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: tjlegg@shell2.shore.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 23:56:35 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Tom Legg Subject: 3 to 4 Upgrade, missing crypto bugs, and random thoughts Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG So having pushed myself through two machine upgrades in the last couple of days.... I've reproduced the missing crypto bug when compiling a kernel..... I think I've isolated it. If you try to build a custom kernel with IPSEC options the make will bomb. This will happen even after the current UPDATING instructions are complete. But... if you do a buildworld and installworld with existing source after getting 4.0 running, then you can implement IPSEC in the kernel. Other than that I ran in to two FYIs.... One.. you might remind admins upgrading to write down the fstab before rebooting in to single user mode. It's good to know when you want to mount them. (including the swap partition for swapon) Two... I ran in to a disk space problem (disk space alloted by one of those 3.x sysinstall's) when doing a make installworld after the make -installworld. Admittedly I had built a custom kernel as well as a generic kernel when testing 'make buildkernel'. So I had /kernel /kernel.old /kernel.GENERIC /kernel.prev and /CUSTOMKERNEL taking up all of the disk space, but hopefully a userfriendly upgrade document might mention this condition, just in case someone wades in to the deep end only to find themselves buried deep in the **** -- ----- Tom Legg tjlegg@shore.net http://www.shore.net/~tjlegg/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 21:52:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2020937B855; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 21:52:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA46972; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 21:52:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 21:52:39 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: Tom Legg Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3 to 4 Upgrade, missing crypto bugs, and random thoughts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Tom Legg wrote: > I've reproduced the missing crypto bug when compiling a kernel..... > I think I've isolated it. If you try to build a custom kernel with > IPSEC options the make will bomb. This will happen even after the > current UPDATING instructions are complete. You do have the src-sys-crypto sources, right? /usr/src/sys/crypto/? > But... if you do a buildworld and installworld with existing source > after getting 4.0 running, then you can implement IPSEC in the kernel. Hmm..I think you'd have to provide a build log showing where it failed without this step - I don't know why it would be the case. > Admittedly I had built a custom kernel as well as a generic kernel > when testing 'make buildkernel'. So I had /kernel /kernel.old > /kernel.GENERIC /kernel.prev and /CUSTOMKERNEL taking up all of the > disk space, but hopefully a userfriendly upgrade document might > mention this condition, just in case someone wades in to the deep > end only to find themselves buried deep in the **** Surely it's fairly obvious if you get an out of disk space message what the problem and fix is? Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 22: 3:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B595A37B591; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 22:03:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA47571; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 22:03:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 22:03:36 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: David Bushong Cc: "Robert E. Lee" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.0 In-Reply-To: <20000316130323.D92442@Bushong.NET> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, David Bushong wrote: > > Well, I couldn't replicate this when I tried (under several different > > conditions). The only bug I found with compiling without crypto support > > was in tcpdump. Perhaps you have a stale /usr/obj? > > > I got this exact behavior from having only src-all in my supfile, and not > cvs-crypto. I still can't replicate this. I did the following: 1) cvsupped to 4.0-stable (4.0-release would be no different here, as nothing has changed to affect it except the tcpdump fix). 2) Blew away all traces of the installed crypto libraries/headers from my system. 3) Blew away my entire crypto/ and secure/ source directories 4) Did a 'make world'. It completed with no problems, and I also completed several other variations also with no problems. The only conclusion I can draw is that you have something stale about your system, perhaps old files in crypto/ or secure/ which it is detecting and trying to build with (or even just empty directories, although that breaks earlier in the build and always will have). Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 17 22:41:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uunet.ca (mail2.uunet.ca [142.77.1.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DE837B840 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 22:41:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca ([216.95.146.6]) by mail2.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <601508-23623>; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 01:36:07 -0500 Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 01:40:32 -0500 From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: SMP oddity Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1509674152-953361632=:95728" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1509674152-953361632=:95728 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Morning, Some of you will probably remember my request for opinions about SMP performance in 3.4-stable, and I went with it - I'm quite happy at the result as well, it runs beautifully. One very strange thing I've noticed though, from dmesg: CPU: Pentium III (686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x673 Stepping = 3 Note how there is no megahurtz before "686-class CPU" as there normally is, (from another box); CPU: Celeron (400.91-MHz 686-class CPU) Has anyone seen this before? I don't think it's hurting anything, it runs perfectly well, I just find it curious, and mysteries give me headaches until they are solved =) I've attached my complete dmesg and kernel config in case it's something odd I'm doing that's causing it. Thanks again, I don't know what I'd do without the wonder of mailing lists. Matt -- Matt Heckaman [matt@arpa.mail.net|matt@relic.net] [Please do not send me] !Powered by FreeBSD/x86! 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Mesa" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: *** Error code 1 on make buildworld Message-ID: <20000318105437.B33685@lucifer.bart.nl> References: <004601bf8d48$9b0019a0$38040a0a@prontel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <004601bf8d48$9b0019a0$38040a0a@prontel.com>; from netadmin@primex.prontel.net on Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 07:02:35PM -0500 Organisation: bART Internet Services B.V. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just to let you all know I am looking into this. I suspect something in the /usr/src/Makefile differences between 4.0 and 3.x. Anyways, I am on it. =) -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator VIA NET.WORKS The Netherlands BSD: Technical excellence at its best http://www.bart.nl A thousand times these mysteries unfold themselves like galaxies in my head... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 3: 3:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7536837B5A7 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 03:03:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA22856; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:03:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:03:25 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200003181103.MAA22856@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to force remote reboot of 3.4-Release? X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable In-Reply-To: <8as4d9$1beh$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> User-Agent: tin/1.4.1-19991201 ("Polish") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.4-19991219-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michael Robinson wrote in list.freebsd-stable: > Last night, I was running a very large Postgresql query on one of my > colocated development servers when all of a sudden the session completely > froze. Since then, I can get TCP connections to all the open ports, but > they just hang with no services ever coming up. Ping works fine. I have once written a small kernel hack which I called "ICMP REBOOT". When you send a certain ICMP packet from a certain host or network, the machine logs the host and panics. The packet can be sent with a modified ping command. It is very useful, because the reception of ICMP packets is performed by the kernel on the lowest level in the interrupt handler, which means that there's a good chance that it will still work, even if the system is pretty much dead. This hack saved my life a few times. ;) I considered submitting the patch, but I guess it wouldn't be committed because it's a "dirty hack". Someone else who has access to your network could easily reboot your box using IP- spoofing, because it's authenticated by IP addresses only. It's probably a good idea to use it behind a firewall that drops unknown ICMP packets. If someone is interested, I've put the hack online here: http://www.fromme.com/icmpreboot.tar.gz Please read the README file. Use at your own risk. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 4:29:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976F337B53F for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 04:29:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mmercer@ipass.net) Received: from ipass.net (mmercer.com [209.170.144.197]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA08127 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 07:29:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38D3768E.BD9DB692@ipass.net> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 07:29:02 -0500 From: Michael E Mercer Reply-To: mmercer@ipass.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: upgrade to 4.0 from 3.4 failure... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG well people, I never fail to screw things up bad... alright, I followed the instructions below, taken from the UPGRADING file in /usr/src I got all the way to 'config YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' and everything just died. after playing with a few things, me and my infinite wisdom (should I say finite) decided to just installworld first then build a kernel before I reboot.. well this failed horribly and now nothing works... I always get signal 12 when try to run make . I have been following FreeBSD since 2.1.6 and have upgraded using cvsup and make world (using the UPGRADING file) everytime a new release is out... However this time, I can not figure out how to fix my screw up. Need help... I have not rebooted my pc since I know nothing will come up if I do, so what can I do to fix things, at this point I do not care what release I go to... 4.0 or 3.4 Can I just overwrite the installed files somehow? using sysinstall? whatever... HELP me please! later Michael mmercer@ipass.net COMMON ITEMS: To build a kernel ----------------- Update config, genassym and go: cd src/usr.bin/genassym make depend all install clean cd ../../usr.sbin/config make depend all install clean cd ../../sys/i386/conf config YOUR_KERNEL_HERE cd ../../compile/YOUR_KERNEL_HERE make depend && make make install To rebuild disk /dev entries ---------------------------- MAKEDEV should be copied from src/etc/MAKEDEV to /dev before starting the following: For N in the list of disks MAKEDEV N # eg ad0 for M in the list of slices MAKEDEV NsMa # eg ad0s1a To rebuild everything --------------------- make world Except when it doesn't work. To update from 3.x to 4.0 stable -------------------------------- cd /usr/src make buildworld cd sbin/mknod make install [*] reboot cd /usr/src make -DNOINFO installworld make installworld [*] You may need to switch from wd to ad ala 1999121 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 5:27:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from polaris.shore.net (polaris.shore.net [207.244.124.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C3237B5E2; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 05:27:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tjlegg@shore.net) Received: from eskimos.the-eleven.com [207.244.92.51] by polaris.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 12WJGG-00001x-00; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 08:27:24 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: tjlegg@shell2.shore.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 08:27:23 -0500 To: Kris Kennaway From: Tom Legg Subject: Re: 3 to 4 Upgrade, missing crypto bugs, and random thoughts Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 9:52 PM -0800 3/17/2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: >On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Tom Legg wrote: > >> I've reproduced the missing crypto bug when compiling a kernel..... >> I think I've isolated it. If you try to build a custom kernel with >> IPSEC options the make will bomb. This will happen even after the >> current UPDATING instructions are complete. > >You do have the src-sys-crypto sources, right? /usr/src/sys/crypto/? > >> But... if you do a buildworld and installworld with existing source >> after getting 4.0 running, then you can implement IPSEC in the kernel. > >Hmm..I think you'd have to provide a build log showing where it failed >without this step - I don't know why it would be the case. It fails looking for /usr/src/crypto/sha.c. Did the crypto sources move in the directory tree between RELENG_3 and RELENG_4? -- ----- Tom Legg tjlegg@shore.net http://www.shore.net/~tjlegg/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 5:30:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1A337B6B5 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 05:30:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6E9E166; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:30:07 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:24:06 +0100 To: Matt Heckaman , FreeBSD-STABLE From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: SMP oddity Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 1:40 AM -0500 2000/3/18, Matt Heckaman wrote: > Has anyone seen this before? I don't think it's hurting anything, it runs > perfectly well, I just find it curious, and mysteries give me headaches > until they are solved =) I've attached my complete dmesg and kernel config > in case it's something odd I'm doing that's causing it. I get the same on my two SMP boxes (Dual PIII/450s) running 3.2-RELEASE and 3.4-STABLE, respectively. On a non-SMP box (single PII/335) I have running 3.0-RELEASE, I do get a speed indicator. I don't (yet) have any other boxes running FreeBSD, so I can't say for sure if this is a PIII issue or an SMP issue. -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 5:30:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C1BD37B66B for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 05:30:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900B8CB1D; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:30:01 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20000317161339.F56986@beastie.localdomain> References: <200003170213.KAA26062@netrinsics.com> <20000317161339.F56986@beastie.localdomain> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:16:17 +0100 To: "Brian O'Shea" , Michael Robinson From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: How to force remote reboot of 3.4-Release? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 4:13 PM -0800 2000/3/17, Brian O'Shea wrote: > http://www.realweasel.com/ I think everyone has heard of this one. Heck, I heard of it months before it hit /. The real question is, when are they actually going to ship product, and stop hyping their vaporware? > http://developer.intel.com/design/servers/ipmi/ The two links from the page at appear to be fully buzzword-compliant (especially the Flash animation), but they both seem rather content-free with respect to whether or not IPMI-compliant systems would allow you to access all the standard BIOS configuration and boot process information. Implementing IPMI might allow vendors to provide this capability, but that seems to be about it. > http://www.enitek.com/j1/ I had not seen this one before. Anybody have any real-world experience with it, or seen a working demo? Thanks! -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 5:36:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nipplehead.yi.org (nat199.192.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.199.192]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E6437B61B for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 05:36:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bbursey@nipplehead.yi.org) Received: from localhost (bbursey@localhost) by nipplehead.yi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02069; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 09:37:28 -0400 (AST) (envelope-from bbursey@nipplehead.yi.org) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 09:37:28 -0400 (AST) From: Bryan Bursey To: Brad Knowles Cc: Matt Heckaman , FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: SMP oddity In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, I can verify that it is _not_ a PIII issues. My dual celeron box refuses to report CPU speeds during boot. However, I have one dual celeron box which does reports a CPU speed as follows: CPU: Celeron (400.91-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x665 Stepping = 5 Its running a -CURRENT kernel from back in Sept. (It was a bit of a hack by a collegue to get StarOffice to run in -STABLE). I'll check with him and see if we can reproduce it on another SMP machine with 4.0-RELEASE. Maybe this is a 3.x vs. 4.x issue. Cheers, Bryan --------------------------------------------------- "Pride would never set foot in paradise, would it? And beauty will never save the world, will it? And enthusiasm does conquer all, doesn't it?" - TTH --------------------------------------------------- On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 1:40 AM -0500 2000/3/18, Matt Heckaman wrote: > > > Has anyone seen this before? I don't think it's hurting anything, it runs > > perfectly well, I just find it curious, and mysteries give me headaches > > until they are solved =) I've attached my complete dmesg and kernel config > > in case it's something odd I'm doing that's causing it. > > I get the same on my two SMP boxes (Dual PIII/450s) running > 3.2-RELEASE and 3.4-STABLE, respectively. On a non-SMP box (single > PII/335) I have running 3.0-RELEASE, I do get a speed indicator. > > I don't (yet) have any other boxes running FreeBSD, so I can't > say for sure if this is a PIII issue or an SMP issue. > > -- > These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy > ====================================================================== > Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV > Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 > Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels > http://www.skynet.be || Belgium > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 6:22:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from polaris.shore.net (polaris.shore.net [207.244.124.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53D037B55B; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 06:22:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tjlegg@shore.net) Received: from eskimos.the-eleven.com [207.244.92.51] by polaris.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 12WK7w-0001HZ-00; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 09:22:53 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: tjlegg@shell2.shore.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 09:22:51 -0500 To: Kris Kennaway From: Tom Legg Subject: Re: 3 to 4 Upgrade, missing crypto bugs, and random thoughts Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 8:27 AM -0500 3/18/2000, Tom Legg wrote: >At 9:52 PM -0800 3/17/2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: >>On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Tom Legg wrote: >> >>> I've reproduced the missing crypto bug when compiling a kernel..... >>> I think I've isolated it. If you try to build a custom kernel with >>> IPSEC options the make will bomb. This will happen even after the >>> current UPDATING instructions are complete. >> >>You do have the src-sys-crypto sources, right? /usr/src/sys/crypto/? >> >>> But... if you do a buildworld and installworld with existing source >>> after getting 4.0 running, then you can implement IPSEC in the kernel. >> >>Hmm..I think you'd have to provide a build log showing where it failed >>without this step - I don't know why it would be the case. > >It fails looking for /usr/src/crypto/sha.c. Did the crypto sources >move in the directory tree between RELENG_3 and RELENG_4? Sorry to reply to my own message (call me an idiot).... but it actually fails looking for ../../crypto/sha.c which looks like /usr/src/sys/crypto And /usr/src/sys/crypto didn't exist and there was nothing in /usr/src/crypto, which I thought was strange because I had installed the crypto distributions and my stable-supfile includes src-all, src-crypto, src-eBones, src-secure. The only change I had made to the supfile was changing RELENG_3 to RELENG_4. So I cvsup'ed again this morning (cvsup5) and there is now code in /usr/src/crypto (ssh, ssl, telnet, heimdal?) but nothing in /usr/src/sys/crypto. .... I just went to /usr/share/examples/cvsup and noticed that there was a new tag that hadn't existed before. cvs-crypto So I just replaced src-crypto, src-eBones, and src-secure with cvs-crypto and cvsup'ed again. Voila.... there is now source code in /usr/src/sys/crypto To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 7:11:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22FAA37B571 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 07:11:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2FFE1A0; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:10:56 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:10:02 +0100 To: Bryan Bursey From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: SMP oddity Cc: Matt Heckaman , FreeBSD-STABLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 9:37 AM -0400 2000/3/18, Bryan Bursey wrote: > Well, I can verify that it is _not_ a PIII issues. My dual celeron box > refuses to report CPU speeds during boot. However, I have one dual > celeron box which does reports a CPU speed as follows: I can confirm that it is not a PIII issue. I rebooted my SMP 3.4-STABLE box with an older non-SMP kernel, and it reported the speed. So, this is clearly an SMP issue under 3.x. Now I'm going to have to go install 4.0 on a second disk in this machine in order to satisfy my curiosity.... -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 7:12:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail0.bna.bellsouth.net (mail0.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1657037B61B for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 07:12:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from discover.siteplus.net (host-209-214-41-167.cha.bellsouth.net [209.214.41.167]) by mail0.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id KAA24273 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:11:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:12:44 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Weeks To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Desperate help upgrading from 3.2-R > 3.4-S Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I will have to apologize to Lester. I reported this error a week or so ago and thought I had corrected it. This has been many make worlds ago, however I still have a 3.2 box in need of a new world. I too still get this same error with a fresh cvsup. :' /usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref /../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/vi.ref | groff -mtty-char -Tascii -t -s -me -o1- > /dev/null *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 As Kris said. I do believe groff is broken! Jim Weeks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 7:20:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from primex.prontel.net (primex.prontel.net [216.242.25.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1464437BAF0 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 07:20:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from netadmin@primex.prontel.net) Received: from workstation9 (dsl-216-227-86-169.telocity.com [216.227.86.169]) by primex.prontel.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA99238; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:21:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from netadmin@primex.prontel.net) Message-ID: <009f01bf90ee$03322f60$a956e3d8@workstation9> From: "Lester A. mesa" To: "Jim Weeks" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Desperate help upgrading from 3.2-R > 3.4-S Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:24:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just mv /usr/src /usr/src.bak and I try a new cvsup with the spefications you gave me on the last E-mail : (stable-supfile file) *default host=cvsup5.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs *default tag=RELENG_3 *default delete use-rel-suffix src-base src-bin src-contrib src-crypto src-etc src-games src-gnu src-include src-kerberosIV src-lib src-libexec src-release src-sbin src-secure src-share src-sys src-tools src-usrbin src-usrsbin *default tag=. ports-all doc-all and yet i still got the same error.. ===> share/doc/usd/13.viref sed -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ ]*\)\(vi.ref\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/ docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ ]*\)\(ex.cmd.roff\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib /nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ ]*\)\(ref.so\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/ docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ ]*\)\(set.opt.roff\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contri b/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ ]*\)\(vi.cmd.roff\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib /nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e 's:^\.so index.so$::' /usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/ vi.ref | groff -mtty-char -Tascii -t -s -me -o1- > /dev/null troff: fatal error: can't find macro file safer *** Error code 1 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error If groff is broken are there any work arounds to it? Anything i can do to get this system up and running with 3.4-STABLE? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Weeks" To: Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 10:12 AM Subject: Re: Desperate help upgrading from 3.2-R > 3.4-S I will have to apologize to Lester. I reported this error a week or so ago and thought I had corrected it. This has been many make worlds ago, however I still have a 3.2 box in need of a new world. I too still get this same error with a fresh cvsup. :' /usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref /../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/vi.ref | groff -mtty-char -Tascii -t -s -me -o1- > /dev/null *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 As Kris said. I do believe groff is broken! Jim Weeks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 7:21:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF56537B603 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 07:21:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mmercer@ipass.net) Received: from ipass.net (mmercer.com [209.170.144.197]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29881 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:21:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38D39EE5.BEED8C13@ipass.net> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:21:09 -0500 From: Michael E Mercer Reply-To: mmercer@ipass.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FIXED! >>> upgrade to 4.0 from 3.4 failure... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have fixed my problem and am now running the 3.4-Stable. I would like to still upgrade to 4.0-Release, can someone give me a more descriptive outline of what I need to do to go from 3.4-Stable to 4.0-Stable? Since I tried following the UPGRADING file in the /usr/src and horribly failed... I would like a little help... Thanks Michael Mercer mmercer@ipass.net well people, I never fail to screw things up bad... alright, I followed the instructions below, taken from the UPGRADING file in /usr/src I got all the way to 'config YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' and everything just died. after playing with a few things, me and my infinite wisdom (should I say finite) decided to just installworld first then build a kernel before I reboot.. well this failed horribly and now nothing works... I always get signal 12 when try to run make . I have been following FreeBSD since 2.1.6 and have upgraded using cvsup and make world (using the UPGRADING file) everytime a new release is out... However this time, I can not figure out how to fix my screw up. Need help... I have not rebooted my pc since I know nothing will come up if I do, so what can I do to fix things, at this point I do not care what release I go to... 4.0 or 3.4 Can I just overwrite the installed files somehow? using sysinstall? whatever... HELP me please! later Michael mmercer@ipass.net COMMON ITEMS: To build a kernel ----------------- Update config, genassym and go: cd src/usr.bin/genassym make depend all install clean cd ../../usr.sbin/config make depend all install clean cd ../../sys/i386/conf config YOUR_KERNEL_HERE cd ../../compile/YOUR_KERNEL_HERE make depend && make make install To rebuild disk /dev entries ---------------------------- MAKEDEV should be copied from src/etc/MAKEDEV to /dev before starting the following: For N in the list of disks MAKEDEV N # eg ad0 for M in the list of slices MAKEDEV NsMa # eg ad0s1a To rebuild everything --------------------- make world Except when it doesn't work. To update from 3.x to 4.0 stable -------------------------------- cd /usr/src make buildworld cd sbin/mknod make install [*] reboot cd /usr/src make -DNOINFO installworld make installworld [*] You may need to switch from wd to ad ala 1999121 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 7:33:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail0.bna.bellsouth.net (mail0.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8AB537B602 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 07:33:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from discover.siteplus.net (host-209-214-41-167.cha.bellsouth.net [209.214.41.167]) by mail0.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id KAA10303 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:32:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:33:29 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Weeks To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP oddity Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brad Knowles wrote, I can confirm that it is not a PIII issue. I rebooted my SMP 3.4-STABLE box with an older non-SMP kernel, and it reported the speed. So, this is clearly an SMP issue under 3.x. I believe this is true. This from 3.2 400mhz SMP CPU: Pentium II/Xeon/Celeron (686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping = 2 Jim Weeks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 7:39:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pancake.earlsfort.iol.ie (pancake.earlsfort.iol.ie [194.125.21.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC18637B5DD for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 07:39:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nick@pancake.earlsfort.iol.ie) Received: (from nick@localhost) by pancake.earlsfort.iol.ie (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA21176 for stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 15:39:44 GMT From: Nick Hilliard Message-Id: <200003181539.PAA21176@pancake.earlsfort.iol.ie> Subject: Re: Error: "Maximum file descriptors exceeded"... To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 15:39:44 +0000 (GMT) X-NCC-RegID: ie.iol X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > My problem is with Diablo (not innd), and I've already stopped > and restarted it several times. No change. You've run "cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf", haven't you? I know this is pretty basic, and am embarrassed to even suggest it, but I've been inattentive enough to be caught by this once or twice... :-( Nick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 7:45:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.pathcom.com (pathway1.pathcom.com [209.250.128.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53C637B59F for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 07:45:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lwh@pathcom.com) Received: from dial-0754.tor.pathcom.com (dial-0754.tor.pathcom.com [216.249.2.246]) by atlas.pathcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23749 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:45:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:45:02 -0500 (EST) From: Luke Hollins Reply-To: lwh@pathcom.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 3.X to RELENG_4 Message-ID: Confirm-Reading-To: "Me" Disposition-Notification-To: "luke" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I haven't been on this list long, but have used -current for a long time and upgrading my one 3.4 machine to 4.0 wasn't seamless but wasn't too bad , I am on IRC all the time if anyone is really stuck , my nick is lwh_ im on efnet and irc.damnsw.net Luke To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 7:51:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4DD437B537 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 07:51:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43921CC92; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:51:31 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200003181539.PAA21176@pancake.earlsfort.iol.ie> References: <200003181539.PAA21176@pancake.earlsfort.iol.ie> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:47:16 +0100 To: Nick Hilliard , stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Error: "Maximum file descriptors exceeded"... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 3:39 PM +0000 2000/3/18, Nick Hilliard wrote: > You've run "cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf", haven't you? I know this is pretty > basic, and am embarrassed to even suggest it, but I've been inattentive > enough to be caught by this once or twice... :-( No, I hadn't. I wasn't even aware that this sort of thing was necessary, especially when you don't make any changes at all to /etc/login.conf from the default that gets installed. However, I believe that re-installing Diablo 1.24-REL solved the problem for me (I don't recall seeing the errors since), although I've now done the command you suggest, just to make sure. Thanks! -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 7:59:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from charon.ipass.net (charon.ipass.net [198.79.53.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65AB37B603 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 07:59:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-28.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.28]) by charon.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03692; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:59:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id LAA34204; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:01:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:01:18 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Tom Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dynamic linker bug in 3.4-RELEASE (I think) Message-ID: <20000318110118.A34149@ipass.net> References: <20000317195156.A24243@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from tom@uniserve.com on Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 04:53:54PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tom: |On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Randall Hopper wrote: |> I have a small program I wrote that uses sigwait and takes about 1 second |> to complete. |> |> If I run it over-and-over many times repeatedly, occasionally the dynamic |> linker will fail to resolve the "sigwait" symbol. ... |> Done |> Done |> /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: hw4-1: Undefined symbol "sigwait" |> Done |> Done ... | | I think it is more likely you are exceeding your limit on number of file |descriptors, so the dynamic linker isn't able to open the libraries. How could that be? The program opens one file and one pipe. So that's 5 file descriptors. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 8: 6:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from charon.ipass.net (charon.ipass.net [198.79.53.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB1337B62E for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 08:06:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-28.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.28]) by charon.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04207 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:06:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id LAA34424 for stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:08:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:08:31 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Netscape pegs CPU on XServer kill Message-ID: <20000318110831.A34338@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've got Netscape Navigator 4.72 built from ports. In the past, killing the X server (e.g Ctrl-Alt-Bksp) killed Netscape. Now, Netscape lives on and just hammers the CPU. Anybody else seen this problem? What's the best fix/workaround? Thanks, Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 8:15:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from po4.glue.umd.edu (po4.glue.umd.edu [128.8.10.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 483B137B5A3; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 08:15:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bfoz@glue.umd.edu) Received: from glue.umd.edu (poseidon.student.umd.edu [129.2.220.99]) by po4.glue.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28112; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:14:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38D3AB72.366D851D@glue.umd.edu> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:14:42 -0500 From: Brandon Fosdick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warner Losh , Doug Barton , Josef Karthauser , Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions References: <200003152159.OAA89926@harmony.village.org> <38D03E64.3D17FC34@glue.umd.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brandon Fosdick wrote: > > Warner Losh wrote: > > > > In message Doug Barton writes: > > : You can find instructions at > > : http://freebsd.simplenet.com/make-upgrade.html. I am planning to update > > : that file for 3.4 -> 4.0 asap BTW. > > > > Let me know if the following doesn't work: > > To update from 3.x to 4.0 stable > > -------------------------------- > > cd /usr/src > > make buildworld > > cd sbin/mknod > > make install > > > > [*] > > reboot > > > > cd /usr/src > > make -DNOINFO installworld > > make installworld > > > > [*] You may need to switch from wd to ad ala 19991210 > > > > To build a kernel > > ----------------- > > Update config, genassym and go: > > cd src/usr.bin/genassym > > make depend all install > > cd ../../usr.sbin/config > > make depend all install > > cd ../../sys/i386/conf > > config YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > > cd ../../compile/YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > > make depend && make > > make install > > > > To rebuild disk /dev entries > > ---------------------------- > > > > MAKEDEV should be copied from src/etc/MAKEDEV to /dev before > > starting the following: > > > > For N in the list of disks > > MAKEDEV N # eg ad0 > > for M in the list of slices > > MAKEDEV NsMa # eg ad0s1a > > How to go about switching over from wd to ad needs to be explained a little > better. After doing the MAKEDEV routine I went and changed all the wd's in my > fstab to ad's. Boy was that a mistake. Now I have to find somthing I can boot > with that will let me mount the root partition read/write so that I can change > fstab back. On top of that my cdrom suddenly decided to non-bootable. Maybe I'm > just having a bad day... > > -Brandon Here's how I fixed that mess so that everybody can see what a dolt I am... When I did the MAKEDEV stuff I forgot to put the 'a' on the end of the device names. I did ad0s3 instead of ad0s3a. Doh! So when I rebooted (after changing fstab) it couldn't mount / read/write cause the device wasn't there. And since it would only mount / read-only I couldn't change fstab back and I couldn't make any new devices. So...I tried booting with my 3.2 cd's...that didn't work. (My 3.2 set has never worked right for anything), Then I dug out my 2.2.8 cd's, booted, did the live filesystem fixit mode thing, changed fstab back, rebooted from the hard drive, made all the right devices, changed fstab back to ad's and then rebooted again. And it finally worked! Woohoo! I've got 4.0 up and running! Now only if I could get arla to build properly... -Brandon -- bfoz@glue.umd.edu "Lead, follow, or get run over" "In life there are those who steer, and those who push" "I'm not impatient, the world is too slow" "Life is short, so have fun, play hard, and leave a good looking corpse" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 8:22: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC2F37B58F; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 08:21:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA40765; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 13:21:35 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02286; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 15:30:01 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 15:30:00 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Brandon Fosdick Cc: Warner Losh , Doug Barton , Josef Karthauser , Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions Message-ID: <20000317153000.A1532@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200003152159.OAA89926@harmony.village.org> <38D03E64.3D17FC34@glue.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <38D03E64.3D17FC34@glue.umd.edu>; from Brandon Fosdick on Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 08:52:36PM -0500 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 08:52:36PM -0500, Brandon Fosdick wrote: > How to go about switching over from wd to ad needs to be explained a little > better. After doing the MAKEDEV routine I went and changed all the wd's in my > fstab to ad's. Boy was that a mistake. Now I have to find somthing I can boot > with that will let me mount the root partition read/write so that I can change > fstab back. On top of that my cdrom suddenly decided to non-bootable. Maybe I'm > just having a bad day... I've got no idea how easy it would be to do, but we could use a variable that we could set in the bootloader to specify where the /etc and /dev directories actually are. It'd be nice to upgrade by creating a /etc.current and a /dev.current. The kernel could then be told to use these directories instead. If, for some reason, your upgrade doesn't work, you can back out to a previous kernel, even if the new /etc and /dev aren't compatible with the old kernel. . . N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 8:26:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.bna.bellsouth.net (mail1.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3386237B547 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 08:26:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from discover.siteplus.net (host-209-214-41-167.cha.bellsouth.net [209.214.41.167]) by mail1.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id LAA06462 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:26:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:26:36 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Weeks To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netscape pegs CPU on XServer kill In-Reply-To: <20000318110831.A34338@ipass.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes, I have seen this on 3.4 and have also noticed that the process ignores kill from the command line. On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, Randall Hopper wrote: > I've got Netscape Navigator 4.72 built from ports. > > In the past, killing the X server (e.g Ctrl-Alt-Bksp) killed Netscape. > Now, Netscape lives on and just hammers the CPU. Jim Weeks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 9: 1:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from botbay.net (www.botbay.net [151.197.159.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2564C37B54C for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 09:01:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wcampbel@botbay.net) Received: from localhost (wcampbel@localhost) by botbay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA49255; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:01:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wcampbel@botbay.net) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:01:08 -0500 (EST) From: Walter Campbell To: Randall Hopper Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netscape pegs CPU on XServer kill In-Reply-To: <20000318110831.A34338@ipass.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've noticed it on West Chester University's Linux and Sun boxes. It appears to be something with Netscape. On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, Randall Hopper wrote: > I've got Netscape Navigator 4.72 built from ports. > > In the past, killing the X server (e.g Ctrl-Alt-Bksp) killed Netscape. > Now, Netscape lives on and just hammers the CPU. > > Anybody else seen this problem? What's the best fix/workaround? > > Thanks, > > Randall > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 9: 6:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ddg.com (eunuch.ddg.com [216.30.58.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A71937B60B for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 09:06:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rkw@dataplex.net) Received: from nomad.dataplex.net (24.28.73.209) by mail.ddg.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.1); Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:06:23 -0600 From: Richard Wackerbarth To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:05:33 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00031811062100.03963@nomad.dataplex.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Nik Clayton wrote: > I've got no idea how easy it would be to do, but we could use a variable > that we could set in the bootloader to specify where the /etc and /dev > directories actually are. It'd be nice to upgrade by creating a > /etc.current and a /dev.current. The kernel could then be told to use > these directories instead. > > If, for some reason, your upgrade doesn't work, you can back out to a > previous kernel, even if the new /etc and /dev aren't compatible with the > old kernel. . . In days of old, we used to have two "root" partitions on every system. One was always a "proven" system and the other experimental. When the experimental system crashes on boot-up, you just reboot on the older root partition. And keep a boot floppy around in case you trash the boot blocks. Two "root"s also solves the compatability problem for "modules", "devices", and configuration files like /etc/fstab. This scheme has served me well for decades. I highly recommend it. -- Richard Wackerbarth rkw@Dataplex.NET To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 9:14:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E01F37B8A2 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 09:14:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from boshea@ricochet.net) Received: from beastie.localdomain ([24.19.158.41]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <20000318171414.TLNH21475.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@beastie.localdomain>; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 09:14:14 -0800 Received: (from brian@localhost) by beastie.localdomain (8.9.3/8.8.7) id JAA77780; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 09:23:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 09:23:55 -0800 From: "Brian O'Shea" To: Matt Heckaman Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: SMP oddity Message-ID: <20000318092355.H56986@beastie.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: Matt Heckaman , FreeBSD-STABLE References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Matt Heckaman on Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 01:40:32AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 01:40:32AM -0500, Matt Heckaman wrote: > > CPU: Pentium III (686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x673 Stepping = 3 > > Note how there is no megahurtz before "686-class CPU" as there normally > is, (from another box); CPU: Celeron (400.91-MHz 686-class CPU) > This behavior is specific to SMP kernels. src/sys/i386/i386/identcpu.c,v 1.57.2.10 2000/02/02 03:50:19 511 #ifndef SMP 512 printf("%d.%02d-MHz ", 513 (tsc_freq + 4999) / 1000000, 514 ((tsc_freq + 4999) / 10000) % 100); 515 #endif 516 printf("586"); 517 break; 518 #endif 519 #if defined(I686_CPU) 520 case CPUCLASS_686: 521 #ifndef SMP 522 printf("%d.%02d-MHz ", 523 (tsc_freq + 4999) / 1000000, 524 ((tsc_freq + 4999) / 10000) % 100); 525 #endif -brian -- Brian O'Shea boshea@ricochet.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 9:19: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from renoir.op.net (renoir.op.net [207.29.195.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD4637B573 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 09:19:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfrazier@op.net) Received: from op.net (d-phletc1-13.ppp.op.net [209.152.198.83]) by renoir.op.net (o1/$Revision: 1.18 $) with ESMTP id MAA11652; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:18:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38D3B9DF.B052376A@op.net> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:16:15 -0500 From: Daniel Frazier X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randall Hopper Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netscape pegs CPU on XServer kill References: <20000318110831.A34338@ipass.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry, I just read the other reply about the process being unresponsive to a kill command. I used kill -9. Hope this helps, Daniel Frazier Randall Hopper wrote: > > I've got Netscape Navigator 4.72 built from ports. > > In the past, killing the X server (e.g Ctrl-Alt-Bksp) killed Netscape. > Now, Netscape lives on and just hammers the CPU. > > Anybody else seen this problem? What's the best fix/workaround? > > Thanks, > > Randall > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 9:47:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from renoir.op.net (renoir.op.net [207.29.195.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C5037B600 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 09:47:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfrazier@op.net) Received: from op.net (d-phletc1-13.ppp.op.net [209.152.198.83]) by renoir.op.net (o1/$Revision: 1.18 $) with ESMTP id MAA11523; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:16:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38D3B94A.26CFC6A6@op.net> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:13:46 -0500 From: Daniel Frazier X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randall Hopper Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netscape pegs CPU on XServer kill References: <20000318110831.A34338@ipass.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yeah, I've seen it where a communicator4 process is eating up like 90something percent of my cpu time. I just killed that process and got into the habit of logging out of X, not using ctl-alt-bksp. Daniel Frazier Randall Hopper wrote: > > I've got Netscape Navigator 4.72 built from ports. > > In the past, killing the X server (e.g Ctrl-Alt-Bksp) killed Netscape. > Now, Netscape lives on and just hammers the CPU. > > Anybody else seen this problem? What's the best fix/workaround? > > Thanks, > > Randall > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 9:49:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uunet.ca (mail2.uunet.ca [142.77.1.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830B337B600 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 09:49:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca ([216.95.146.6]) by mail2.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <599071-6406>; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:44:44 -0500 Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:49:13 -0500 From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: Brian O'Shea Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: SMP oddity In-Reply-To: <20000318092355.H56986@beastie.localdomain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, Brian O'Shea wrote: [...] : This behavior is specific to SMP kernels. : : src/sys/i386/i386/identcpu.c,v 1.57.2.10 2000/02/02 03:50:19 This is interesting. I have seen at least one SMP box that reported the speed which was 4.0-CURRENT SMP, I wonder what the reason for the defs below not showing speed on the CPU is.. [...] : -brian : : -- : Brian O'Shea : boshea@ricochet.net : -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 10: 0: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from botbay.net (www.botbay.net [151.197.159.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C7137B58F for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 09:59:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wcampbel@botbay.net) Received: from localhost (wcampbel@localhost) by botbay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA49527; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:59:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wcampbel@botbay.net) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:59:49 -0500 (EST) From: Walter Campbell To: Daniel Frazier Cc: Randall Hopper , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netscape pegs CPU on XServer kill In-Reply-To: <38D3B94A.26CFC6A6@op.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As long as you close netscape first, so it exits on its own, it seems to be sucessful. West Chester University's public Linux and Sun boxes have a cron job that runs that reaps any netscape not attatched to a tty (during the middle of the night, when the labs are closed). This may help here as well On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, Daniel Frazier wrote: > Yeah, I've seen it where a communicator4 process is eating up like > 90something percent of my cpu time. I just killed that process and got > into the habit of logging out of X, not using ctl-alt-bksp. > > Daniel Frazier > > Randall Hopper wrote: > > > > I've got Netscape Navigator 4.72 built from ports. > > > > In the past, killing the X server (e.g Ctrl-Alt-Bksp) killed Netscape. > > Now, Netscape lives on and just hammers the CPU. > > > > Anybody else seen this problem? What's the best fix/workaround? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Randall > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 10:11:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from renoir.op.net (renoir.op.net [207.29.195.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8FCC37B561 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:11:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfrazier@op.net) Received: from op.net (d-phletc1-13.ppp.op.net [209.152.198.83]) by renoir.op.net (o1/$Revision: 1.18 $) with ESMTP id NAA14285 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 13:11:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38D3C640.666B436@op.net> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 13:09:04 -0500 From: Daniel Frazier X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Trouble installing tk8x and X... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When I installed 3.3-RELEASE I didn't install any X distributions. I have since cvsupped to STABLE. But now XFree86 4 suports my card, so I want to install X. Sysinstall only lists 3.3.6, so I tried to cd to /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4 and doing a make, but I noticed this message... *** I don't see the static library for tk version in /usr/local/lib. *** XF86Setup will not be installed. If you want to build this program *** install tk 4.2 or 8.x first. ...so I hit ctl-c and tried to install tk82. That didn't work, so I tried the other versions of tk8x that show up in ports, and they all crap out the same. This is what I get... [33] /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/tk82 # make >> tk8.2.3.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist on this system. >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.scriptics.com/pub/tcl/tcl8_2/. Receiving tk8.2.3.tar.gz (2336460 bytes): 100% 2336460 bytes transferred in 472.8 seconds (4.83 Kbytes/s) ===> Extracting for tk-8.2.3 >> Checksum OK for tk8.2.3.tar.gz. ===> tk-8.2.3 depends on shared library: tcl82.1 - not found ===> Verifying install for tcl82.1 in /usr/ports/lang/tcl82 ===> Extracting for tcl-8.2.3 >> Checksum OK for tcl8.2.3.tar.gz. /bin/mv /usr/ports/lang/tcl82/work/tcl8.2.3/doc/InitStubs.3 /usr/ports/lang/tcl82/work/tcl8.2.3/doc/Tcl_InitStubs.3 ===> Patching for tcl-8.2.3 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for tcl-8.2.3 1 out of 1 hunks failed--saving rejects to ../generic/tclDate.c.rej *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Can anyone help me get this installed. Thanks in advance. Daniel Frazier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 10:14:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lex.balt.net (lex.balt.net [195.14.162.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD9D37BA24 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:14:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dt@mail.balt.net) Received: from mambo ([195.14.166.42]) by lex.balt.net (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id UAA25527 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 20:12:16 -0200 X-Authentication-Warning: lex.balt.net: Host [195.14.166.42] claimed to be mambo Message-ID: <001401bf910d$f87542e0$7a0d12ac@mambo.da.ru> From: "DT" To: Subject: upgrading 3.x 4.0-stable warnings Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 20:12:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01BF9116.58B79EC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BF9116.58B79EC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-4" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear sirs, Recently i'm cvsup'ed RELENG_4 and accourgind UPDATING document executed = command make buildworl. everyting compiled w/o errors, but therewere = some warnings, I'm don't like: /usr/src/usr.bin/colldef/scan.l:638: warning: `yyunput' defined but not = used /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:1027: warning: `yy_flex_realloc' defined = but not used texindex.o(.text+0xae): warning: mktemp() possibly used unsafely; = consider using mkstemp() /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/machmode.def:73:= warning: left shift count >=3D width of type /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/machmode.def:74:= warning: left shift count >=3D width of type ... /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/machmode.def:113= : warning: left shift count >=3D width of type few times ../libbinutils/libbinutils.a(bucomm.o): In function `make_tempname': bucomm.o(.text+0x2d1): warning: mktemp() possibly used unsafely; = consider using mkstemp() /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/c-common.c:1655: = warning: passing arg 1 of `warning' from incompatible pointer type /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/reload1.c:1275: = warning: passing arg 4 of `decode_asm_operands' from incompatible = pointer type /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/toplev.c:1185: = warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type =20 /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../cc_tools/c-gperf.h= :180: warning: initialization discards `const' from pointer target type & so on & so on Maybe i did something wrong ? or missed something ? Dalius T. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BF9116.58B79EC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-4" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear sirs,
 
Recently i'm cvsup'ed RELENG_4 and = accourgind=20 UPDATING document executed command make buildworl. everyting compiled = w/o=20 errors, but therewere some warnings, I'm don't like:
 
/usr/src/usr.bin/colldef/scan.l:638: = warning:=20 `yyunput' defined but not used
 
/usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:1027: = warning:=20 `yy_flex_realloc' defined but not used
 
texindex.o(.text+0xae): warning: = mktemp() possibly=20 used unsafely; consider using mkstemp()
 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/machmod= e.def:73:=20 warning: left shift count >=3D width of type
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/machmod= e.def:74:=20 warning: left shift count >=3D width of type
...
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/machmod= e.def:113:=20 warning: left shift count >=3D width of type
 
 
few times
../libbinutils/libbinutils.a(bucomm.o): = In function=20 `make_tempname':
bucomm.o(.text+0x2d1): warning: = mktemp() possibly=20 used unsafely; consider using mkstemp()
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/c-common.= c:1655:=20 warning: passing arg 1 of `warning' from incompatible pointer = type
 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/reload1.c= :1275:=20 warning: passing arg 4 of `decode_asm_operands' from incompatible = pointer=20 type
 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/toplev.c:= 1185:=20 warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type    =
 
/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1obj/../cc_tools/= c-gperf.h:180:=20 warning: initialization discards `const' from pointer target = type
 
& so on & so on
 
Maybe i did something wrong ? or missed = something=20 ?
 
Dalius T.
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BF9116.58B79EC0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 10:15: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2517F37B9BF for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:15:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F484E0C5; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:14:45 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20000318092355.H56986@beastie.localdomain> References: <20000318092355.H56986@beastie.localdomain> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 18:31:25 +0100 To: "Brian O'Shea" , Matt Heckaman From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: SMP oddity Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 9:23 AM -0800 2000/3/18, Brian O'Shea wrote: > This behavior is specific to SMP kernels. Okay, even to this non-programmer, that source seems pretty clear. So, can anyone tell me why it is this way? I think it's highly unlikely that a machine could successfully get past POST if the two CPUs weren't running at the same speed, so I don't think it can be a mismatch issue, can it? -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 10:39:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.equilibrate.net (ns2.equilibrate.net [193.173.72.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E330937BDB3 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:39:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jascha@equilibrate.net) Received: from linux (linux.equilibrate.net [193.173.72.25]) by ns2.equilibrate.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/EQ_1.2_MD) with SMTP id TAA02887 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:39:02 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <004b01bf9109$0bba5fc0$1948adc1@linux> From: "Jascha Hoogenraad" To: Subject: Compiling kernel on 4.0-release and 4.0-stable (Will stable ever be stable again??) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:37:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I just installed 4.0-Release from ftp.nl.freebsd.org, but it seems to fail to compile my custom kernel, so i decided to try to build a GENERIC kernel which fails as well... so i cvsup'ed the newest 4.0-stable, but nope still fails... this is the error it ends in: cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmis sing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -a nsi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I/usr/include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../nfs/nfs_vfsops.c In file included from ../../nfs/nfs_vfsops.c:70: ../../nfs/nfsdiskless.h:79: syntax error before `chir' ../../nfs/nfs_vfsops.c:146: structure has no member named `root_hostnam' ../../nfs/nfs_vfsops.c:146: initializer element is not constant ../../nfs/nfs_vfsops.c:146: (near initialization for `sysctl___vfs_nfs_diskless_rootpath.oid_arg1') ../../nfs/nfs_vfsops.c: In function `nfs_convert_diskless': ../../nfs/nfs_vfsops.c:232: structure has no member named `root_hostnam' ../../nfs/nfs_vfsops.c: In function `nfs_mountroot': ../../nfs/nfs_vfsops.c:488: structure has no member named `root_hostnam' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC. ipv6# uname -a FreeBSD ipv6.equilibrate.net 4.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE #0: Wed Mar 15 02:16:55 GMT 2000 jkh@monster.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 11:31:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.skynet.be (trinity.skynet.be [195.238.2.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546CC37B97F for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:31:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by trinity.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2068D122EB; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 20:31:39 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <004b01bf9109$0bba5fc0$1948adc1@linux> References: <004b01bf9109$0bba5fc0$1948adc1@linux> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 20:24:04 +0100 To: "Jascha Hoogenraad" , From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Compiling kernel on 4.0-release and 4.0-stable (Will stable ever be stable again??) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 7:37 PM +0100 2000/3/18, Jascha Hoogenraad wrote: > I just installed 4.0-Release from ftp.nl.freebsd.org, but it seems to fail > to compile my custom kernel, so i decided to try to build a GENERIC kernel > which fails as well... I'm having problems doing a clean install of 4.0-RELEASE from ftp.nl.freebsd.org. I'm thinking that the machine isn't quite as up-to-date as it should be, and will retry my install with ftp.uk.freebsd.org if this one also fails. -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 11:46:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F59537B8DB for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:46:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA63261; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:46:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:46:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Brad Knowles Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: SMP oddity In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, Brad Knowles wrote: > I get the same on my two SMP boxes (Dual PIII/450s) running >3.2-RELEASE and 3.4-STABLE, respectively. On a non-SMP box (single >PII/335) I have running 3.0-RELEASE, I do get a speed indicator. > > I don't (yet) have any other boxes running FreeBSD, so I can't >say for sure if this is a PIII issue or an SMP issue. I get the same on a Dual P233MMX. It's a problem with the way identcpu.c handles SMP systems. You're welcome to hack it if it bothers you that much. I think a guy I know on IRC had written a messy hacked identcpu.c at one point for his dual celeron systems. If you're interested I'd be happy to find out if he still has it and send it your way. ------------------------------------------------------------- | -Brandon D. Valentine bandix at looksharp.net | bandix on EFnet IRC BVRiker on AIM ------------------------------------------------------------- | "...and as for hackers, we note that all of those known to | The Register are so strapped financially that seizing their | property would be tantamount to squeezing blood from a | stone." -- The Register, 02/17/2000 ------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 11:51:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D4B37B866 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:51:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA63291 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:51:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:51:39 -0500 (EST) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: How to force remote reboot of 3.4-Release? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, Brad Knowles wrote: >> http://www.enitek.com/j1/ > > I had not seen this one before. Anybody have any real-world >experience with it, or seen a working demo? I agree this looks the most promising. My only concern is that they seem reluctant to support it on anything other than the linux kernels they have tested. It makes me wonder whether it's a fully complaint BIOS extension or some sort of hack. I'd love to try one out, just that I don't think it's worth $120. Not when I could take that ICMP kernel hack just posted and put it behind my firewall for free. ------------------------------------------------------------- | -Brandon D. Valentine bandix at looksharp.net | bandix on EFnet IRC BVRiker on AIM ------------------------------------------------------------- | "...and as for hackers, we note that all of those known to | The Register are so strapped financially that seizing their | property would be tantamount to squeezing blood from a | stone." -- The Register, 02/17/2000 ------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 11:58:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isds.duke.edu (davinci.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9738737B9FD for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:58:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sto@stat.Duke.EDU) Received: from cayenne.isds.duke.edu (cayenne.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.11]) by isds.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25505 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:58:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from sto@localhost) by cayenne.isds.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08222 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:58:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:58:29 -0500 From: "Sean O'Connell" To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netscape pegs CPU on XServer kill Message-ID: <20000318145829.D8194@stat.Duke.EDU> Reply-To: "Sean O'Connell" Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000318110831.A34338@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000318110831.A34338@ipass.net>; from aa8vb@ipass.net on Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 11:08:31AM -0500 X-Organization: Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Randall Hopper stated: > I've got Netscape Navigator 4.72 built from ports. > > In the past, killing the X server (e.g Ctrl-Alt-Bksp) killed Netscape. > Now, Netscape lives on and just hammers the CPU. > > Anybody else seen this problem? What's the best fix/workaround? I simply added a few ulimit commnads to the netscape wrapper script to prevent things from running on too long and core dumps. ulimit -c 0 ulimit -t 1800 S ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Sean O'Connell Email: sean@stat.Duke.EDU Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Phone: (919) 684-5419 Duke University Fax: (919) 684-8594 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 12: 0:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2ED37BB1F for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:00:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA63360; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 15:00:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 15:00:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Matt Heckaman Cc: "Brian O'Shea" , FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: SMP oddity In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, Matt Heckaman wrote: >This is interesting. I have seen at least one SMP box that reported the >speed which was 4.0-CURRENT SMP, I wonder what the reason for the defs >below not showing speed on the CPU is.. Seems to be this would be a pretty trivial MFC. I can't imagine any reason the same behavior isn't possible under a 3.x kernel. Does a committer want to look into merging those changes into the RELENG_3 identcpu.c? ------------------------------------------------------------- | -Brandon D. Valentine bandix at looksharp.net | bandix on EFnet IRC BVRiker on AIM ------------------------------------------------------------- | "...and as for hackers, we note that all of those known to | The Register are so strapped financially that seizing their | property would be tantamount to squeezing blood from a | stone." -- The Register, 02/17/2000 ------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 12:22:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E88C37B97F; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:22:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA85713; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:22:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:22:11 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: Tom Legg Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3 to 4 Upgrade, missing crypto bugs, and random thoughts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, Tom Legg wrote: > Sorry to reply to my own message (call me an idiot).... but it > actually fails looking for ../../crypto/sha.c > which looks like /usr/src/sys/crypto Yep. > And /usr/src/sys/crypto didn't exist and there was nothing in > /usr/src/crypto, which I thought was strange because I had installed > the crypto distributions and my stable-supfile includes src-all, > src-crypto, src-eBones, src-secure. That takes care of crypto for the userland > The only change I had made to the supfile was changing RELENG_3 to RELENG_4. > So I cvsup'ed again this morning (cvsup5) and there is now code in > /usr/src/crypto (ssh, ssl, telnet, heimdal?) but nothing in > /usr/src/sys/crypto. > .... > I just went to /usr/share/examples/cvsup and noticed that there was a > new tag that hadn't existed before. cvs-crypto > So I just replaced src-crypto, src-eBones, and src-secure with > cvs-crypto and cvsup'ed again. Voila.... there is now source code in > /usr/src/sys/crypto cvs-crypto checks out the crypto CVS repository, not the bare sources. The tag you want is src-sys-crypto, which if you look closely has been added to the example cvsupfiles :-) Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 12:37: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB9237BAB3; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:37:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA89333; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:37:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:37:03 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: DT Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upgrading 3.x 4.0-stable warnings In-Reply-To: <001401bf910d$f87542e0$7a0d12ac@mambo.da.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, DT wrote: > Dear sirs, > > Recently i'm cvsup'ed RELENG_4 and accourgind UPDATING document > executed command make buildworl. everyting compiled w/o errors, but > therewere some warnings, I'm don't like: These are all perfectly normal and represent parts of the source code which the compiler thinks are sloppy coding (recent versions of gcc have become *much* more picky about the quality of code they will accept without complaining, and most software out there will give warnings when compiled with -W -Wall). As long as your build completes it should be fine. These warnings are being addressed over time as people get sick of seeing them :-) Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 12:40:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF99437BB37; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:40:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA89616; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:40:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:40:37 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: Michael E Mercer Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upgrade to 4.0 from 3.4 failure... In-Reply-To: <38D3768E.BD9DB692@ipass.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, Michael E Mercer wrote: > I got all the way to 'config YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' > and everything just died. after playing with > a few things, me and my infinite wisdom (should I say > finite) decided to just installworld first then build > a kernel before I reboot.. well this failed horribly > and now nothing works... I always get signal 12 > when try to run make . I think at this point you'll have to either: 1) download a 4.0 boot/fixit floppy and copy the kernel from there 2) reinstall from a backup 3) install a 4.0 binary snapshot. The 4.0 userland can't work without a 4.0 kernel - if you can't get the floppy kernel to work let me know and I'll put a copy of kernel.GENERIC up for http. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 12:41:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A782E37B607; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:41:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA89692; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:41:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:41:52 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: Michael E Mercer Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FIXED! >>> upgrade to 4.0 from 3.4 failure... In-Reply-To: <38D39EE5.BEED8C13@ipass.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, Michael E Mercer wrote: > Since I tried following the UPGRADING file in the /usr/src > and horribly failed... I would like a little help... See the more complete instructions Doug Barton posted here a few days ago (check the archives at www.freebsd.org/mail) Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 12:44:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534D837B5F5; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:44:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA89868; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:44:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:44:11 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: Brandon Fosdick Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions In-Reply-To: <38D3AB72.366D851D@glue.umd.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, Brandon Fosdick wrote: > Woohoo! I've got 4.0 up and running! Now only if I could get arla to build > properly... I can guarantee that arla does compile on 4.0 - I committed several fixes myself :) Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 13:41: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93F837B613 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 13:40:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.231.53]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA14E9; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 22:40:53 +0100 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA59742; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 22:40:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 22:40:49 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: "Lester A. mesa" Cc: Jim Weeks , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Desperate help upgrading from 3.2-R > 3.4-S Message-ID: <20000318224049.A59705@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <009f01bf90ee$03322f60$a956e3d8@workstation9> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <009f01bf90ee$03322f60$a956e3d8@workstation9>; from netadmin@primex.prontel.net on Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 10:24:10AM -0500 Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -On [20000318 16:45], Lester A. mesa (netadmin@primex.prontel.net) wrote: > >If groff is broken are there any work arounds to it? Anything i can do to >get this system up and running with 3.4-STABLE? It ain't broken =P I am suspecting that we're using groff before we actually install it, but I am still looking in to that. In the meantime, try: cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff make depend make obj make make install And then try to make world. -- Jeroen Ruigrok vd Werven/Asmodai asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl|freebsd.org] Documentation nutter/C-rated Coder BSD: Technical excellence at its best The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Any fool can make a rule. And every fool will mind it... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 13:52:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from poseidon.student.umd.edu (poseidon.student.umd.edu [129.2.220.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AAA737B669; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 13:52:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bfoz@glue.umd.edu) Received: from glue.umd.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by poseidon.student.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA00293; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:52:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bfoz@glue.umd.edu) Message-ID: <38D3FA90.B02FA4EF@glue.umd.edu> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:52:16 -0500 From: Brandon Fosdick Reply-To: bfoz@glue.umd.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, Brandon Fosdick wrote: > > > Woohoo! I've got 4.0 up and running! Now only if I could get arla to build > > properly... > > I can guarantee that arla does compile on 4.0 - I committed several fixes > myself :) > > Kris > > ---- > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe I sent in a pr (ports/17474) this morning with the cruft I get during build. It fails looking for some symbol, haven't had time to look in depth though. The fixes were nice, now it fails with fewer errors than it did before. :) -Brandon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 14:41:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from green.wl.vg (green.wl.vg [204.203.49.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E5037B613 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:41:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patrick@whetstonelogic.com) Received: from whetstonelogic.com (pathome [209.9.69.194]) by green.wl.vg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA70855; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:40:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patrick@whetstonelogic.com) Message-ID: <38D4059B.AAE12834@whetstonelogic.com> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 17:39:23 -0500 From: Patrick Gardella Organization: Whetstone Logic, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Brandon D. Valentine" Cc: Matt Heckaman , "Brian O'Shea" , FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: SMP oddity References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Brandon D. Valentine" wrote: > > On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, Matt Heckaman wrote: > > >This is interesting. I have seen at least one SMP box that reported the > >speed which was 4.0-CURRENT SMP, I wonder what the reason for the defs > >below not showing speed on the CPU is.. > > Seems to be this would be a pretty trivial MFC. I can't imagine any > reason the same behavior isn't possible under a 3.x kernel. > > Does a committer want to look into merging those changes into the > RELENG_3 identcpu.c? Before I commit this, would you all test it to make sure it works? (It was done in September to -CURRENT as diff 1.76) --- src/sys/i386/i386/identcpu.c.orig Sat Mar 18 17:38:09 2000 +++ src/sys/i386/i386/identcpu.c Sat Mar 18 17:38:42 2000 @@ -508,21 +508,17 @@ #endif #if defined(I586_CPU) case CPUCLASS_586: -#ifndef SMP printf("%d.%02d-MHz ", (tsc_freq + 4999) / 1000000, ((tsc_freq + 4999) / 10000) % 100); -#endif printf("586"); break; #endif #if defined(I686_CPU) case CPUCLASS_686: -#ifndef SMP printf("%d.%02d-MHz ", (tsc_freq + 4999) / 1000000, ((tsc_freq + 4999) / 10000) % 100); -#endif printf("686"); break; #endif Patrick ---------- Patrick Gardella patrick@whetstonelogic.com VP-Technology patrick@freebsd.org Whetstone Logic, Inc. This space intentionally left blank. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 14:50:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A0637BB8B for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:49:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA64387; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 17:48:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 17:48:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Patrick Gardella Cc: Matt Heckaman , "Brian O'Shea" , FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: SMP oddity In-Reply-To: <38D4059B.AAE12834@whetstonelogic.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, Patrick Gardella wrote: >Before I commit this, would you all test it to make sure it works? >(It was done in September to -CURRENT as diff 1.76) I've got a bit of a unique situation at the moment where none of my boxen can reach world(damn the phone company!) so I'm on a laptop running windows with a dialup over my primary incoming phone line(hey, not my fault it had a builtin winmodem, the price was right). I'll be happy to take that diff upstairs on a floppy though and test it and bring back the results. I am sure there are other people listening who will give you feedback as well. ------------------------------------------------------------- | -Brandon D. Valentine bandix at looksharp.net | bandix on EFnet IRC BVRiker on AIM ------------------------------------------------------------- | "...and as for hackers, we note that all of those known to | The Register are so strapped financially that seizing their | property would be tantamount to squeezing blood from a | stone." -- The Register, 02/17/2000 ------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 15:25:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A6F37B618 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 15:25:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA64588; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 18:25:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 18:25:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Patrick Gardella Cc: Matt Heckaman , "Brian O'Shea" , FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: SMP oddity In-Reply-To: <38D4059B.AAE12834@whetstonelogic.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, the diff didn't work on my 3.4-RELEASE system via patch. However, I found the 4 lines the diff wanted to remove and did it myself and it works beautifully. I imagine it is just a change in the file under RELENG_3 since 3.4-RELEASE came out that altered the line numbers patch was looking for. Anyway, here are my results followed by a diff from my 3.4-RELEASE system to prove that the changes are identical to the one yours suggested: --- dyrnwyn# uname -a FreeBSD dyrnwyn.prydain.net 3.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE #1: Sun Mar 12 14:00:20 CST 2000 bandix@dyrnwyn.prydain.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/DYRNWYN i386 dyrnwyn# dmesg | grep CPU CPU: Pentium/P55C (586-class CPU) SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! --- dyrnwyn# uname -a FreeBSD dyrnwyn.prydain.net 3.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE #2: Sat Mar 18 17:07:31 CST 2000 bandix@dyrnwyn.prydain.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/DYRNWYN i386 dyrnwyn# dmesg | grep CPU CPU: Pentium/P55C (232.67-MHz 586-class CPU) SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! --- *** identcpu.c.orig Sat Mar 18 17:02:14 2000 --- identcpu.c Sat Mar 18 17:03:53 2000 *************** *** 504,524 **** #endif #if defined(I586_CPU) case CPUCLASS_586: - #ifndef SMP printf("%d.%02d-MHz ", (tsc_freq + 4999) / 1000000, ((tsc_freq + 4999) / 10000) % 100); - #endif printf("586"); break; #endif #if defined(I686_CPU) case CPUCLASS_686: - #ifndef SMP printf("%d.%02d-MHz ", (tsc_freq + 4999) / 1000000, ((tsc_freq + 4999) / 10000) % 100); - #endif printf("686"); break; #endif --- 504,520 ---- ------------------------------------------------------------- | -Brandon D. Valentine bandix at looksharp.net | bandix on EFnet IRC BVRiker on AIM ------------------------------------------------------------- | "...and as for hackers, we note that all of those known to | The Register are so strapped financially that seizing their | property would be tantamount to squeezing blood from a | stone." -- The Register, 02/17/2000 ------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 15:32:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.skynet.be (trinity.skynet.be [195.238.2.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B10D937B618 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 15:32:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.27.176] (dialup176.kortrijk2.skynet.be [195.238.27.176]) by trinity.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37BF112363; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 00:32:33 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <38D4059B.AAE12834@whetstonelogic.com> References: <38D4059B.AAE12834@whetstonelogic.com> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 23:58:23 +0100 To: Patrick Gardella , "Brandon D. Valentine" From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: SMP oddity Cc: Matt Heckaman , "Brian O'Shea" , FreeBSD-STABLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 5:39 PM -0500 2000/3/18, Patrick Gardella wrote: > Before I commit this, would you all test it to make sure it works? > (It was done in September to -CURRENT as diff 1.76) I'll have to check this on Monday. I did get a clean install of 4.0-RELEASE on the second disk on my SMP machine that had previously been running 3.4-STABLE, but I haven't completed the install (in particular, ssh is not configured and running, so I can't log in remotely). But thanks anyway! I'll test it as soon as I can! -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 16: 3:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.bna.bellsouth.net (mail2.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C0637B665; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:03:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from discover.siteplus.net (host-216-78-82-185.cha.bellsouth.net [216.78.82.185]) by mail2.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id SAA28329; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 18:55:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:03:47 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Weeks To: FreeBSD-STABLE@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: asmodai@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Desperate help upgrading from 3.2-R > 3.4-S Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It may not be broken, and I would love to do the make world, but I can not get past this error during make install of groff. cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/tmac/../../../../contrib/groff/tmac; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 tmac.andoc tmac.pic tmac.ps tmac.psnew tmac.psold tmac.pspic tmac.psatk tmac.dvi tmac.safer tmac.tty tmac.tty-char tmac.X tmac.Xps tmac.latin1 tmac.lj4 eqnrc troffrc tmac.arkup tmac.html /usr/share/tmac cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/tmac/../../../../contrib/groff/tmac/locale; install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 locale-list koi8-r /usr/share/tmac/mdoc/locale usage: install [-CcDps] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] file1 file2 install [-CcDps] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] file1 ... fileN directory install -d [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] directory ... *** Error code 64 Stop. *** Error code 1 -------------------------------------- Jeroen Ruigrok vd Werven/Asmodai wrote: It ain't broken =P I am suspecting that we're using groff before we actually install it, but I am still looking in to that. In the meantime, try: cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff make depend make obj make make install And then try to make world. --------------------------------------- Jim A little knowledge is a DANGEROUS thing James W. Weeks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 16:36:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from weeble.dyndns.org (ubppp248-215.dialin.buffalo.edu [128.205.248.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D436637B5D2 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:36:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjm2@earthling.net) Received: from shithead (shithead.weeble.dyndns.org [10.0.0.2]) by weeble.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA93250; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:35:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cjm2@earthling.net) Message-ID: <001701bf913b$1d16e180$0200000a@weeble.dyndns.org> From: "C J Michaels" To: "Daniel Frazier" Cc: "FreeBSD Stable" References: <38D3C640.666B436@op.net> Subject: Re: Trouble installing tk8x and X... Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:35:30 -0500 Organization: WCC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Seeing as I just installed tk today, I would suggest cvsup'ping your ports tree and give it another go. -Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Frazier" To: Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 1:09 PM Subject: Trouble installing tk8x and X... > When I installed 3.3-RELEASE I didn't install any X distributions. I > have since cvsupped to STABLE. But now XFree86 4 suports my card, so I > want to install X. Sysinstall only lists 3.3.6, so I tried to cd to > /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4 and doing a make, but I noticed this message... > *** I don't see the static library for tk version in /usr/local/lib. > *** XF86Setup will not be installed. If you want to build this program > *** install tk 4.2 or 8.x first. > ...so I hit ctl-c and tried to install tk82. That didn't work, so I > tried the other versions of tk8x that show up in ports, and they all > crap out the same. This is what I get... > > [33] /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/tk82 # make > >> tk8.2.3.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist on this system. > >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.scriptics.com/pub/tcl/tcl8_2/. > Receiving tk8.2.3.tar.gz (2336460 bytes): 100% > 2336460 bytes transferred in 472.8 seconds (4.83 Kbytes/s) > ===> Extracting for tk-8.2.3 > >> Checksum OK for tk8.2.3.tar.gz. > ===> tk-8.2.3 depends on shared library: tcl82.1 - not found > ===> Verifying install for tcl82.1 in /usr/ports/lang/tcl82 > ===> Extracting for tcl-8.2.3 > >> Checksum OK for tcl8.2.3.tar.gz. > /bin/mv /usr/ports/lang/tcl82/work/tcl8.2.3/doc/InitStubs.3 > /usr/ports/lang/tcl82/work/tcl8.2.3/doc/Tcl_InitStubs.3 > ===> Patching for tcl-8.2.3 > ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for tcl-8.2.3 > 1 out of 1 hunks failed--saving rejects to ../generic/tclDate.c.rej > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Can anyone help me get this installed. Thanks in advance. > > Daniel Frazier > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 16:47:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail4.uunet.ca (mail4.uunet.ca [209.167.141.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DDCB37B5D2 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:47:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca ([216.95.146.6]) by mail4.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <210648-2796>; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:44:58 -0500 Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:44:57 -0500 From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: Patrick Gardella Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: SMP oddity In-Reply-To: <38D4059B.AAE12834@whetstonelogic.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm afraid that I'm unable to test this at the moment, my only SMP machine is not something I can reboot for non-critical reasons without upsetting some customers. Thanks for taking care of this though, a strong reminder of one of the reasons I love FreeBSD. Matt -- Matt Heckaman [matt@arpa.mail.net|matt@relic.net] [Please do not send me] !Powered by FreeBSD/x86! [http://www.freebsd.org] [any SPAM (UCE) e-mail] On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, Patrick Gardella wrote: : Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 17:39:23 -0500 : From: Patrick Gardella : To: Brandon D. Valentine : Cc: Matt Heckaman , Brian O'Shea , : FreeBSD-STABLE : Subject: Re: SMP oddity : : "Brandon D. Valentine" wrote: : > : > On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, Matt Heckaman wrote: : > : > >This is interesting. I have seen at least one SMP box that reported the : > >speed which was 4.0-CURRENT SMP, I wonder what the reason for the defs : > >below not showing speed on the CPU is.. : > : > Seems to be this would be a pretty trivial MFC. I can't imagine any : > reason the same behavior isn't possible under a 3.x kernel. : > : > Does a committer want to look into merging those changes into the : > RELENG_3 identcpu.c? : : Before I commit this, would you all test it to make sure it works? : (It was done in September to -CURRENT as diff 1.76) : : --- src/sys/i386/i386/identcpu.c.orig Sat Mar 18 17:38:09 2000 : +++ src/sys/i386/i386/identcpu.c Sat Mar 18 17:38:42 2000 : @@ -508,21 +508,17 @@ : #endif : #if defined(I586_CPU) : case CPUCLASS_586: : -#ifndef SMP : printf("%d.%02d-MHz ", : (tsc_freq + 4999) / 1000000, : ((tsc_freq + 4999) / 10000) % 100); : -#endif : printf("586"); : break; : #endif : #if defined(I686_CPU) : case CPUCLASS_686: : -#ifndef SMP : printf("%d.%02d-MHz ", : (tsc_freq + 4999) / 1000000, : ((tsc_freq + 4999) / 10000) % 100); : -#endif : printf("686"); : break; : #endif : : Patrick : ---------- : Patrick Gardella patrick@whetstonelogic.com : VP-Technology patrick@freebsd.org : Whetstone Logic, Inc. This space intentionally left blank. : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 17:31:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.hexanet.fr (ns1.hexanet.fr [194.98.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BECF937B548; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 17:31:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nighty@hexanet.fr) Received: from speedfreak.hexanet.fr (speedfreak.hexanet.fr [194.98.140.14]) by ns1.hexanet.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA81478; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 02:31:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nighty@hexanet.fr) Received: from speedfreak.hexanet.fr (nighty@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by speedfreak.hexanet.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA70358; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 02:31:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nighty@speedfreak.hexanet.fr) Message-Id: <200003190131.CAA70358@speedfreak.hexanet.fr> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: chris@hexanet.fr To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: OpenSSH 1.2.2 port and RELENG_3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 02:31:33 +0100 From: Christophe Prevotaux Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi I was trying to compile OpenSSH port under RELENG_3 and I got this : ===> Building for OpenSSH-1.2.2 ===> lib Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/ports/security/openssh/work/ssh/lib cc -O -pipe -I/usr/ports/security/openssh/work/ssh/lib/.. -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/ports/security/openssh/work/ssh/lib/.. -I/usr/local/usr/include -c /usr/ports/security/openssh/work/ssh/lib/../authfd.c -o authfd.o In file included from /usr/ports/security/openssh/work/ssh/lib/../authfd.c:16: /usr/ports/security/openssh/work/ssh/lib/../includes.h:72: warning: redefinition of `sa_family_t' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:47: warning: `sa_family_t' previously declared here /usr/ports/security/openssh/work/ssh/lib/../includes.h:73: conflicting types for `socklen_t' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:48: previous declaration of `socklen_t' *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. Anyone knows how to fix this ? Also it seems the latest version of OpenSSH is not 1.2.2 but 1.2.3 could someone update the port ? -- -- =================================================================== Christophe Prevotaux Email chris@hexanet.fr HEXANET SARL URL http//www.hexanet.fr/ Z.A Farman Sud Tel +33 (0)3 26 79 30 05 9 rue Roland Coffignot Direct +33 (0)3 26 79 08 02 BP415 Fax +33 (0)3 26 79 30 06 51689 Reims Cedex 2 FRANCE FreeBSD =================================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 18:22:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE9E37BF22 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 18:22:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt6-216-180-6-181.dialup.HiWAAY.net [216.180.6.181]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id UAA31326; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 20:22:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA45044; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:48:24 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Message-Id: <200003190148.TAA45044@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Sean O'Connell" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: Netscape pegs CPU on XServer kill In-reply-to: Message from "Sean O'Connell" of "Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:58:29 EST." <20000318145829.D8194@stat.Duke.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:48:24 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Sean O'Connell" writes: > Randall Hopper stated: > > I simply added a few ulimit commnads to the netscape wrapper script > to prevent things from running on too long and core dumps. > > ulimit -c 0 > ulimit -t 1800 Speaking of which, am I the only one seeing: pid 4106 (communicator-4.7), uid 928: exited on signal 10 (core dumped) pid 4113 (communicator-4.7), uid 928: exited on signal 10 (core dumped) pid 4211 (communicator-4.7), uid 928: exited on signal 10 (core dumped) pid 4215 (communicator-4.7), uid 928: exited on signal 10 (core dumped) pid 4219 (communicator-4.7), uid 928: exited on signal 10 (core dumped) on *every* exit of the FreeBSD native U.S. Communicator? Same thing with 4.7 and 4.72. Think this started when I upgraded XFree86 from 3.3.1 to 3.3.6, built from the port. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 18:28:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.vnet.net (smtp2.vnet.net [166.82.1.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F274D37BC58 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 18:28:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp2.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA23936 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 21:28:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA49446 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 21:28:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id VAA05662 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 21:28:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 21:28:02 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <200003190228.VAA05662@lakes.dignus.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Is 4.0 the next `to ship' from Walnut Creek? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I saw some mumblings - and I suppose if 4.0 is stable (I don't believe it is, is it?) this is the appropriate e-mail list... But, if 3.x will be shipped as the next item from the Walnut Creek subscriptions - would someone care to detail how to get both 3.x and 4.x until -stable moves to 4.x? That is, I want to be sure to get all the CDs. - Thanks - - Dave Rivers - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 18:43:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net (granger.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1327F37B5E5 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 18:43:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuyman@confusion.net) Received: from confusion.net (user-2iveamh.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.42.209]) by granger.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA07685 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 21:43:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38D43E0E.1DDECC10@confusion.net> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 21:40:14 -0500 From: Laurence Berland Organization: B.R.A.T.T. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Small spaces Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to install FreeBSD 3.4 on an old 486 I've got lying around to use as a NATing firewall for my home network, but I've only got a 200 Meg HD around. I'm gonna go get another HD later, but right now I'd like to get running with just that. So far I've been trying with 16 to swap and various other combinations, but it always seems to run out of /usr space. I figure / should be at least 32MB, and the rest (~152MB) goes to /usr. I'm trying to install the binaries, the docs, and the kernel source (but not the rest of the source). Any idea if it's even possible? Should I shrink down the root partition more? I've done loads of installs at this point, but all on HDs with at least a gig for FreeBSD. Any ideas where I can get a bigger HD that's still under the limit for old BIOSen? Thanks in advance for any help. -- Laurence Berland, Stuyvesant HS Debate <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. http://stuy.debate.net icq #7434346 aol imer E1101 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 18:50:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4667437B6BB for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 18:50:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA20605; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 18:51:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Thomas David Rivers Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is 4.0 the next `to ship' from Walnut Creek? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 18 Mar 2000 21:28:02 EST." <200003190228.VAA05662@lakes.dignus.com> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 18:51:01 -0800 Message-ID: <20602.953434261@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > But, if 3.x will be shipped as the next item from the Walnut > Creek subscriptions - would someone care to detail how to > get both 3.x and 4.x until -stable moves to 4.x? That is, > I want to be sure to get all the CDs. They're going to ship 3.5 and 4.1 by default, then it will switch purely to 4.x. If you want to special order the 4.0 product (or, if it's ever produced, a 3.6 product) then you have to contact WC directly. Thanks! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 18:56:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.tsoft.com (shell.tsoft.com [198.144.192.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B377437B619 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 18:56:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from siewsim@prismedia.com) Received: from prismedia.com (m205-186.dsl.tsoft.com [198.144.205.186]) by shell.tsoft.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA11021 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 18:56:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38D44293.924C973E@prismedia.com> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 18:59:31 -0800 From: Siew Sim Reply-To: siewsim@prismedia.com Organization: PRISMedia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: pthread_cond_wait always return EINVAL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm running 3.2. and I'm having problem to get pthread to work. Here's part of my code: { .... assert(pthread_mutex_init(&gMutex, NULL) == 0); assert(pthread_cond_init(&gCond, NULL) == 0); assert(pthread_create(&myThread, NULL, ThreadMain, NULL) == 0); ... } void* ThreadMain(void* arg) { .... error = pthread_cond_wait(&gCond, &gMutex); ^ error always = EINVAL (22). This is my very first call that uses gCond. } I printed out gCond, it looks good. Can someone tell me what I've done wrong? Thanks! Siew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 19: 8: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D37D37B66F for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:07:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 12WW4B-0003oQ-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 22:07:47 -0500 Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 22:07:47 -0500 From: Peter Radcliffe To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small spaces Message-ID: <20000318220747.F5039@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org References: <38D43E0E.1DDECC10@confusion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <38D43E0E.1DDECC10@confusion.net>; from stuyman@confusion.net on Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 09:40:14PM -0500 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Laurence Berland probably said: > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 3.4 on an old 486 I've got lying around to > use as a NATing firewall for my home network, but I've only got a 200 > Meg HD around. I'm gonna go get another HD later, but right now I'd I had a 2.2.something 486 as a dialup router many moons ago, on a 160Mb disk. > like to get running with just that. So far I've been trying with 16 to > swap and various other combinations, but it always seems to run out of > /usr space. I figure / should be at least 32MB, and the rest (~152MB) > goes to /usr. I'm trying to install the binaries, the docs, and the > kernel source (but not the rest of the source). Any idea if it's even > possible? Should I shrink down the root partition more? I've done You could leave /usr in / and share the spare space ... and go through the binaries deleting things you won't need on another disk (or via NFS) ? A minimal NAT box doesn't need that much in the way of binaries. > loads of installs at this point, but all on HDs with at least a gig for > FreeBSD. Any ideas where I can get a bigger HD that's still under the > limit for old BIOSen? Thanks in advance for any help. You could get a cheap bootable scsi card like the adaptec 1542 (from memory, ISA bootable) and drop a 1gb scsi disk in it ? That or look at picobsd ? P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 19:22:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (smtp10.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.200.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BA937B656 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:22:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuyman@confusion.net) Received: from confusion.net (user-2iveamh.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.42.209]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA18708; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 22:22:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38D44711.14BEAA08@confusion.net> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 22:18:41 -0500 From: Laurence Berland Organization: B.R.A.T.T. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Thomas David Rivers , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is 4.0 the next `to ship' from Walnut Creek? References: <20602.953434261@zippy.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If you've subscribed to the snapshots though, there's some exception, or so I heard. Care to shed some light on this? (my reading of the web page is that snap subscribers WILL get 4.0 by default, am I screwed up in the head?) Laurence "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > > But, if 3.x will be shipped as the next item from the Walnut > > Creek subscriptions - would someone care to detail how to > > get both 3.x and 4.x until -stable moves to 4.x? That is, > > I want to be sure to get all the CDs. > > They're going to ship 3.5 and 4.1 by default, then it will switch > purely to 4.x. If you want to special order the 4.0 product (or, if > it's ever produced, a 3.6 product) then you have to contact WC > directly. Thanks! > > - Jordan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Laurence Berland, Stuyvesant HS Debate <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. http://stuy.debate.net icq #7434346 aol imer E1101 The above email Copyright (C) 2000 Laurence Berland All rights reserved To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 19:26:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shemp.palomine.net (shemp.palomine.net [205.198.88.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C94E037B5B7 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:26:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjohnson@palomine.net) Received: (qmail 175 invoked by uid 1000); 19 Mar 2000 03:26:34 -0000 Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 22:26:34 -0500 From: Chris Johnson To: Laurence Berland Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small spaces Message-ID: <20000318222634.A141@palomine.net> References: <38D43E0E.1DDECC10@confusion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <38D43E0E.1DDECC10@confusion.net>; from stuyman@confusion.net on Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 09:40:14PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 09:40:14PM -0500, Laurence Berland wrote: > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 3.4 on an old 486 I've got lying around to > use as a NATing firewall for my home network, but I've only got a 200 > Meg HD around. I'm gonna go get another HD later, but right now I'd > like to get running with just that. So far I've been trying with 16 to > swap and various other combinations, but it always seems to run out of > /usr space. I figure / should be at least 32MB, and the rest (~152MB) > goes to /usr. I'm trying to install the binaries, the docs, and the > kernel source (but not the rest of the source). Any idea if it's even > possible? Should I shrink down the root partition more? I've done > loads of installs at this point, but all on HDs with at least a gig for > FreeBSD. Any ideas where I can get a bigger HD that's still under the > limit for old BIOSen? Thanks in advance for any help. I presume you have another FreeBSD box with a bigger drive. Instead of installing the sources on the NAT box, why not NFS mount /usr/src and /usr/obj from your other box? I have several FreeBSD boxes at home, but only one has sources on it, and I do all the world building there. Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 19:32: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.webmaster.com (mail.webmaster.com [209.133.28.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1111137B66F for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:32:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from davids@webmaster.com) Received: from whenever ([209.133.29.2]) by shell.webmaster.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:32:00 -0800 From: "David Schwartz" To: , Subject: RE: pthread_cond_wait always return EINVAL Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:32:00 -0800 Message-ID: <000501bf9153$afc48bf0$021d85d1@youwant.to> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-reply-to: <38D44293.924C973E@prismedia.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > void* ThreadMain(void* arg) > { > .... > error = pthread_cond_wait(&gCond, &gMutex); > ^ > error always = EINVAL (22). This is my very first call that > uses gCond. > } > > I printed out gCond, it looks good. Can someone tell me what I've > done wrong? Thanks! You forgot to lock the mutex and you forgot to check the condition before waiting. DS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 19:41:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.bna.bellsouth.net (mail1.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF66237B634 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:41:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from discover.siteplus.net (host-216-78-82-185.cha.bellsouth.net [216.78.82.185]) by mail1.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id WAA02816; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 22:41:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 22:41:43 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Weeks To: Laurence Berland Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Small spaces In-Reply-To: <38D43E0E.1DDECC10@confusion.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have seen a few messages in the mail archives about putting pico.bsd on small hardrives to implement a gateway. Also if you have another small hd lying around maybe even a 40mb you could then use the 200 just for /usr You don't have to worry about the bios limit as long as you keep the root low. I have used a number of 386 and 486 boards with large hard drives. I believe you could optionally install 2.2.8. It takes less space. Jim A little knowledge is a DANGEROUS thing James W. Weeks On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, Laurence Berland wrote: > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 3.4 on an old 486 I've got lying around to > use as a NATing firewall for my home network, but I've only got a 200 > Meg HD around. I'm gonna go get another HD later, but right now I'd > like to get running with just that. So far I've been trying with 16 to > swap and various other combinations, but it always seems to run out of > /usr space. I figure / should be at least 32MB, and the rest (~152MB) > goes to /usr. I'm trying to install the binaries, the docs, and the > kernel source (but not the rest of the source). Any idea if it's even > possible? Should I shrink down the root partition more? I've done > loads of installs at this point, but all on HDs with at least a gig for > FreeBSD. Any ideas where I can get a bigger HD that's still under the > limit for old BIOSen? Thanks in advance for any help. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 20: 2:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from MailAndNews.com (MailAndNews.com [199.29.68.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5C9137B72D for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 20:02:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from division@mailandnews.com) Received: from morrison.estranged.net [63.31.212.162] (division@mailandnews.com); Sat, 18 Mar 2000 23:02:40 -0500 X-WM-Posted-At: MailAndNews.com; Sat, 18 Mar 00 23:02:40 -0500 Received: (from division@localhost) by morrison.estranged.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA93417; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 22:02:44 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from division) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 22:02:43 -0600 From: Chris Fisher To: David Kelly Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netscape pegs CPU on XServer kill Message-ID: <20000318220243.C75522@morrison.1984.org> References: <200003190148.TAA45044@nospam.hiwaay.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200003190148.TAA45044@nospam.hiwaay.net>; from dkelly@hiwaay.net on Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 07:48:24PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 18 March 2000, David Kelly wrote: > "Sean O'Connell" writes: > > Randall Hopper stated: > > > > I simply added a few ulimit commnads to the netscape wrapper script > > to prevent things from running on too long and core dumps. > > > > ulimit -c 0 > > ulimit -t 1800 > > Speaking of which, am I the only one seeing: > > pid 4106 (communicator-4.7), uid 928: exited on signal 10 (core dumped) > pid 4113 (communicator-4.7), uid 928: exited on signal 10 (core dumped) > pid 4211 (communicator-4.7), uid 928: exited on signal 10 (core dumped) > pid 4215 (communicator-4.7), uid 928: exited on signal 10 (core dumped) > pid 4219 (communicator-4.7), uid 928: exited on signal 10 (core dumped) > > on *every* exit of the FreeBSD native U.S. Communicator? Same thing > with 4.7 and 4.72. Think this started when I upgraded XFree86 from > 3.3.1 to 3.3.6, built from the port. I've experienced the same under XFree86 3.3.5 with the native version of Netscape 4.7. Since switching to the Linux version of Communicator (4.72) in the ports, I've had no such problems. Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 20:16:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.cern.ch (smtp1.cern.ch [137.138.128.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0748D37B576 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 20:16:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vova.golubkov@cern.ch) Received: from cern.ch (ident@misi58.cern.ch [137.138.33.124]) by smtp1.cern.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA03456 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 05:16:04 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: smtp1.cern.ch: Host ident@misi58.cern.ch [137.138.33.124] claimed to be cern.ch Message-ID: <38D45483.110F6A78@cern.ch> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 05:16:03 +0100 From: Vova Golubkov X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: 4.0: EtherExpress16 disappeared? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I have upgraded to 4.0-RELEASE and found that my Intel EtherExpress16 NIC is not detected anymore. I know that this driver is not perfect (as well as the card itself), but I prefer it to nothing :-) Should it be added to sys/i386/isa/isa_compat.h? Vova To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 20:27:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779C937B5DC for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 20:27:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA66292; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 23:27:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 23:27:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Laurence Berland Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Small spaces In-Reply-To: <38D43E0E.1DDECC10@confusion.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, Laurence Berland wrote: >I'm trying to install FreeBSD 3.4 on an old 486 I've got lying around to >use as a NATing firewall for my home network, but I've only got a 200 >Meg HD around. I'm gonna go get another HD later, but right now I'd The easiest way to do this is to define a 200mb / partition and that way the space is shared among all partitions. It can be a pain if you ever need to newfs and want to save your config files, but at least this way every spare byte can be used by /usr. You should be able to get away with doing a Custom install under sysinstall and choosing the "Minimal" distribution set instead of the typical "User" or whatever. Then go ahead and install only the base DES stuff and you should be able to untar ports. Then in the post-install configuration menu select "Install additional distribution sets" or whatever the exact name is and under that go to "Custom" and check the box for src-sys. That's it! You could try fooling around with PicoBSD but I warn it's not for the feint of heart and if you asked this question here, PicoBSD's config might overwhelm you. ------------------------------------------------------------- | -Brandon D. Valentine bandix at looksharp.net | bandix on EFnet IRC BVRiker on AIM ------------------------------------------------------------- | "...and as for hackers, we note that all of those known to | The Register are so strapped financially that seizing their | property would be tantamount to squeezing blood from a | stone." -- The Register, 02/17/2000 ------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 20:33:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58E137B6F3; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 20:33:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA12296; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 21:33:39 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id VAA04863; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 21:33:30 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003190433.VAA04863@harmony.village.org> To: Brandon Fosdick Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions Cc: Doug Barton , Josef Karthauser , Ruslan Ermilov , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:14:42 EST." <38D3AB72.366D851D@glue.umd.edu> References: <38D3AB72.366D851D@glue.umd.edu> <200003152159.OAA89926@harmony.village.org> <38D03E64.3D17FC34@glue.umd.edu> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 21:33:30 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <38D3AB72.366D851D@glue.umd.edu> Brandon Fosdick writes: : When I did the MAKEDEV stuff I forgot to put the 'a' on the end of the device : names. I did ad0s3 instead of ad0s3a. Doh! So when I rebooted (after changing One can always do mount /dev/ad0a /mnt cd /mnt/dev sh MAKEDEV ad0s3a cd / umount /mnt reboot if one finds one's self in that situation. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 20:42:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D6137B72D for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 20:42:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA12318; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 21:42:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id VAA04896; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 21:42:30 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003190442.VAA04896@harmony.village.org> To: Richard Wackerbarth Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3.x -> 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:05:33 CST." <00031811062100.03963@nomad.dataplex.net> References: <00031811062100.03963@nomad.dataplex.net> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 21:42:30 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG These old days must predate my involvement in unix.... I have a system with 3 bsd partitions. The first one is 4.0, the second 3.4 stable and the third is unused. I've not been able to get the boot0 boot loader to boot off the second partition. I've been able to get /boot/loader to do it w/o much of a problem: set currdev=disk1s2: unload boot /kernel although I suppose that I could also say boot disk1s2:/kernel Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 21: 3:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A23837BBB6; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 21:03:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA12366; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 22:03:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA04970; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 22:02:58 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003190502.WAA04970@harmony.village.org> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Small spaces Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 18 Mar 2000 22:07:47 EST." <20000318220747.F5039@pir.net> References: <20000318220747.F5039@pir.net> <38D43E0E.1DDECC10@confusion.net> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 22:02:58 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a 4.0-stable system running in 17MB of a 48MB CF card stuck in an IDE <-> CF adapter from www.tapr.org. I installed select binaries and libraries with a custom script. More heavy weight than picobsd, but a little easier to hack on after the fact. This is with ssh and enough of a world to test load new drivers and nfs mount my development environment. I think that if I were to build a shared /bin and /sbin that I could get this below 13MB. Since there's only one partition I don't think it will matter that they aren't statically linked. And the CF part is easy/fast enough to recreate that it is a small risk. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 21: 3:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A23837BBB6; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 21:03:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA12366; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 22:03:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA04970; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 22:02:58 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003190502.WAA04970@harmony.village.org> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Small spaces Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 18 Mar 2000 22:07:47 EST." <20000318220747.F5039@pir.net> References: <20000318220747.F5039@pir.net> <38D43E0E.1DDECC10@confusion.net> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 22:02:58 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a 4.0-stable system running in 17MB of a 48MB CF card stuck in an IDE <-> CF adapter from www.tapr.org. I installed select binaries and libraries with a custom script. More heavy weight than picobsd, but a little easier to hack on after the fact. This is with ssh and enough of a world to test load new drivers and nfs mount my development environment. I think that if I were to build a shared /bin and /sbin that I could get this below 13MB. Since there's only one partition I don't think it will matter that they aren't statically linked. And the CF part is easy/fast enough to recreate that it is a small risk. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 21:25:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pilikia.hi.net (pilikia.hi.net.98.36.12.IN-ADDR.ARPA [12.36.98.183]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C30737B6A6 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 21:25:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from art@pilikia.hi.net) Received: from taz.pilikia.hi.net (taz.pilikia.hi.net [192.168.0.2]) by pilikia.hi.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA08508 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 07:40:33 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from art@pilikia.hi.net) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000318074032.00916500@pilikia.hi.net> X-Sender: art@pilikia.hi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 07:40:32 -1000 To: stable@freebsd.org From: "Art Neilson, WH7N" Subject: net.inet.tcp.always_keepalive: 1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been running 3.4-Stable for a while now and finally updated my /etc/defaults/rc.conf from /usr/src/etc/defaults/rc.conf. I noticed the new sysctl toggles in the conf file, and was wondering what this one in particular did? I thought keepalive packets were for systems connected up to providers who whould time them out if they had no activity for x length of time. The comment here seems to indicate it is for cleanup of dead connections. Can someone enlighten me or point me to relevant doc? tcp_keepalive="YES" # Kill dead TCP connections (or NO). -- __ / ) _/_ It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. /--/ __ / Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, / (_/ (_<__ Instead of theories to suit facts. -- Sherlock Holmes, "A Scandal in Bohemia" Arthur W. Neilson III, WH7N Bank of Hawaii Tech Support art@pilikia.hi.net, aneilson@boh.com, wh7n@arrl.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 21:31:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0199237B721 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 21:31:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id GAA00277 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 06:31:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA34754 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 04:16:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: OpenSSH 1.2.2 port and RELENG_3 Date: 19 Mar 2000 04:16:47 +0100 Message-ID: <8b1gqv$11tq$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> References: <200003190131.CAA70358@speedfreak.hexanet.fr> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Christophe Prevotaux wrote: > I was trying to compile OpenSSH port under RELENG_3 > and I got this : [...] > /usr/include/sys/socket.h:48: previous declaration of `socklen_t' > *** Error code 1 Are you sure you are using the most recent version of the port? > Also it seems the latest version of OpenSSH is not 1.2.2 but 1.2.3 > could someone update the port ? OpenSSH really has no formal releases. It's maintained as part of the OpenBSD userland in their CVS repository. The "releases" with version numbers are arbitrary. The openssh port checks out the version from March 3rd, which is sufficiently recent. There have been only minor changes since then. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 22:17:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D510737B685 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 22:17:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mmercer@ipass.net) Received: from ipass.net (dsl-2-196.dsl.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.144.196] (may be forged)) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA06024 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 01:17:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38D47110.7FEEAB9F@ipass.net> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 01:17:52 -0500 From: "Michael E. Mercer" Reply-To: mmercer@ipass.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: mkdep: compile failed when compiling own kernel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 4.0-Stable modified GENERIC kernel config file... trying to do a 'make depend' and getting this error... ../../pci/if_xl.c:133: miibus_if.h: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Any suggestions? Thanks Michael Mercer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 22:35:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from primex.prontel.net (primex.prontel.net [216.242.25.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 515AB37B615 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 22:35:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from netadmin@primex.prontel.net) Received: from workstation9 (dsl-216-227-86-169.telocity.com [216.227.86.169]) by primex.prontel.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA75740; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 01:36:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from netadmin@primex.prontel.net) Message-ID: <00cd01bf916d$c2bd1e60$a956e3d8@workstation9> From: "Lester A. mesa" To: "Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai" Cc: References: <009f01bf90ee$03322f60$a956e3d8@workstation9> <20000318224049.A59705@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Subject: Re: Desperate help upgrading from 3.2-R > 3.4-S Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 01:38:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Actually about 4 Hours ago I got the system up and running 3.4-S, I did not had a chance to E-mail the mailling list about it.. But actually thanks to Luke Hollins I did a make install in the usr.bin/groff directory and make buildworld again and It' worked like just fine.. Basically what you said to do below.. Thank you for your reply and if this problem gets fix please keep us posted.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai" To: "Lester A. mesa" Cc: "Jim Weeks" ; Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 4:40 PM Subject: Re: Desperate help upgrading from 3.2-R > 3.4-S -On [20000318 16:45], Lester A. mesa (netadmin@primex.prontel.net) wrote: > >If groff is broken are there any work arounds to it? Anything i can do to >get this system up and running with 3.4-STABLE? It ain't broken =P I am suspecting that we're using groff before we actually install it, but I am still looking in to that. In the meantime, try: cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff make depend make obj make make install And then try to make world. -- Jeroen Ruigrok vd Werven/Asmodai asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl|freebsd.org] Documentation nutter/C-rated Coder BSD: Technical excellence at its best The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Any fool can make a rule. And every fool will mind it... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 22:37:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5ECA37B66D for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 22:37:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 32E6A1C4A; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 01:37:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 01:37:52 -0500 From: Bill Fumerola To: "Michael E. Mercer" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mkdep: compile failed when compiling own kernel Message-ID: <20000319013752.O25438@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <38D47110.7FEEAB9F@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <38D47110.7FEEAB9F@ipass.net>; from mmercer@ipass.net on Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 01:17:52AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 01:17:52AM -0500, Michael E. Mercer wrote: > ../../pci/if_xl.c:133: miibus_if.h: No such file or directory > mkdep: compile failed > *** Error code 1 > > Any suggestions? Add 'controller miibus' back. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect Computer Horizons Corp - CVM e-mail: billf@chc-chimes.com / billf@FreeBSD.org Office: 800-252-2421 x128 / Cell: 248-761-7272 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 23:14:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aurora.sol.net (aurora.sol.net [206.55.65.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5909D37BCBB for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 23:14:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jgreco@aurora.sol.net) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by aurora.sol.net (8.9.2/8.9.2/SNNS-1.02) id LAA15601; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 11:00:47 -0600 (CST) From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <200003191700.LAA15601@aurora.sol.net> Subject: Re: SMP oddity To: blk@skynet.be Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 11:00:47 -0600 (CST) Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > This behavior is specific to SMP kernels. > > Okay, even to this non-programmer, that source seems pretty > clear. So, can anyone tell me why it is this way? I think it's > highly unlikely that a machine could successfully get past POST if > the two CPUs weren't running at the same speed, so I don't think it > can be a mismatch issue, can it? There was, at one point, a technical issue regarding the possibility of the values being wrong. Check the mailing list archives. Incidentally: I will let you imagine what I did to a Sun SS10 that had a Sun FE nearly hysterical once... got called in to replace a disk and he just HAD to open up the machine to find out why the banner reported _3_ CPU's (I don't think there's a blessed configuration with 3, maybe there is)... found a dual CPU card plus one rather faster single CPU, and swore that the disk problem ("the disk is DEAD, Jim") might be caused by my creative CPU engineering. Note that Solaris didn't have any idea how to deal with the CPU's from a scheduling point of view: it scheduled them all fairly equally, which wasn't exactly ideal, but better than it would have been with only two CPU's. I would think that it might be possible to have a similar situation in a PC unless the BIOS explicitly checks it. ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 23:26: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C7BD37BC61 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 23:26:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA67659 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 02:26:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 02:26:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: SMP oddity In-Reply-To: <200003191700.LAA15601@aurora.sol.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, Joe Greco wrote: >There was, at one point, a technical issue regarding the possibility of the >values being wrong. Check the mailing list archives. It was probably a concern over the way APIC worked with the TSC. It appears to be moot point now though. >Incidentally: I will let you imagine what I did to a Sun SS10 that had a >Sun FE nearly hysterical once... got called in to replace a disk and he >just HAD to open up the machine to find out why the banner reported _3_ >CPU's (I don't think there's a blessed configuration with 3, maybe there >is)... found a dual CPU card plus one rather faster single CPU, and swore >that the disk problem ("the disk is DEAD, Jim") might be caused by my >creative CPU engineering. If you'd have had a digital camera back then I'm sure we'd all like to see pictures of the guys face. Too bad they're a rather modern commodity. >I would think that it might be possible to have a similar situation in a >PC unless the BIOS explicitly checks it. > >... Joe It's not possible. APIC is very very picky about which CPUs it will even boot with. If they're not the same processor model and speed the APIC I/O chip won't even initialize, and if they're not the same stepping you end up with periodic crashes no matter what OS you run. ------------------------------------------------------------- | -Brandon D. Valentine bandix at looksharp.net | bandix on EFnet IRC BVRiker on AIM ------------------------------------------------------------- | "...and as for hackers, we note that all of those known to | The Register are so strapped financially that seizing their | property would be tantamount to squeezing blood from a | stone." -- The Register, 02/17/2000 ------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 23:41:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8187837B5D8 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 23:41:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA07997; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 00:41:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200003190741.AAA07997@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Small spaces In-Reply-To: <38D43E0E.1DDECC10@confusion.net> from Laurence Berland at "Mar 18, 0 09:40:14 pm" To: stuyman@confusion.net (Laurence Berland) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 00:41:16 -0700 (MST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Laurence Berland wrote: > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 3.4 on an old 486 I've got lying around to > use as a NATing firewall for my home network, but I've only got a 200 > Meg HD around. I had 2.2 up on a Compaq 386/20 monochrome laptop with an 80 meg hard drive, so what you want to do is possible. I built the system on another machine, included the gzip executable option in the kernel, and installed the whole thing over the parallel port TCP. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 18 23:50:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from malasada.lava.net (malasada.lava.net [199.222.42.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAAE237B6F2 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 23:50:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cliftonr@lava.net) Received: from localhost (2242 bytes) by malasada.lava.net via sendmail with P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 21:50:28 -1000 (HST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #3 built 1999-Dec-7) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 21:50:28 -1000 From: Clifton Royston To: Laurence Berland Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small spaces Message-ID: <20000318215028.C15998@lava.net> References: <38D43E0E.1DDECC10@confusion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <38D43E0E.1DDECC10@confusion.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 09:40:14PM -0500, Laurence Berland wrote: > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 3.4 on an old 486 I've got lying around to > use as a NATing firewall for my home network, but I've only got a 200 > Meg HD around. I'm gonna go get another HD later, but right now I'd > like to get running with just that. So far I've been trying with 16 to > swap and various other combinations, but it always seems to run out of > /usr space. I figure / should be at least 32MB, and the rest (~152MB) > goes to /usr. I'm trying to install the binaries, the docs, and the > kernel source (but not the rest of the source). Any idea if it's even > possible? Should I shrink down the root partition more? 32 is pretty minimal, I think; / will use nearly all of that. You should try to see if you can trim what's in /usr a bit. Have you made sure to ditch the games, as well as X? If you skip your kernel source and do your compiles on another box (which I think you'd want to do anyway!) you could ditch the kernel source, and then all the essential binaries should be sure to fit into the remaining space of /usr. It should be doable; I had a very similar config (486-120, 16MB RAM, 240MB HD) running just a few months ago on OpenBSD 2.5, which is pretty similar in size of essential binaries & data space. Similar application, too - home network firewall, in my case with IP filtering for a DSL connection. (After a bit it got to be too much of a pain, so last month I bought the smallest new hard drive I could find; this turned out to be about 4GB, and space is no longer an issue.) -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- LavaNet Systems Architect -- cliftonr@lava.net The named which can be named is not the Eternal named. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message