From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 00:03:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05EA816A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 00:03:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nic.ach.sch.gr (nic.sch.gr [194.63.238.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813E743D58 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 00:03:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (qmail 13137 invoked by uid 207); 17 Oct 2004 00:03:36 -0000 Received: from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr by nic by uid 201 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (sophie: 3.04/2.19/3.81. Clear:RC:1(81.186.70.214):. Processed in 6.376696 secs); 17 Oct 2004 00:03:36 -0000 Received: from dialup214.ach.sch.gr (HELO gothmog.gr) ([81.186.70.214]) (envelope-sender ) by nic.sch.gr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 17 Oct 2004 00:03:30 -0000 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9H02icV000912; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 03:02:44 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9H02EC8000906; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 03:02:14 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 03:02:14 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Spiral Eyed Girl Message-ID: <20041017000213.GA668@gothmog.gr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Development Resources X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 00:03:41 -0000 On 2004-10-16 14:25, Spiral Eyed Girl wrote: > Hello, > > After looking at the FreeBSD website and looking at docs all over the > place, I havent found what I'm looking for, so I decided to mail this list. > > I am a software developer for Windows, and moving to FreeBSD has been very > nice, especially since the tools to make software are completly free! My > question is: Where can I find information on programming for FreeBSD? > Things like how it differs from Windows, what it can and can't do, how to > develop for X/KDE. I am good with C and C++, and know my way around > gcc/make, but I don't know about system and 'net API calls that are > specific to FreeBSD, and *NIX in general. Look at the bibliography section of the FreeBSD Handbook for interesting books. Out of the top of my head, you should try to get yourself a copy of at least the following: a. ``The Design and Implementation of the 4.4BSD Operating System'', by Marshall Kirk McKusick. b. ``The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System'', by Marshall Kirk McKusick. c. ``UNIX Network Programming'' by Richard W. Stevens. d. ``TCP/IP Illustrated'' by Richard W. Stevens, Volumes I & II. These might amount to a large sum of money, so you might want to explore the manpages and online docs at www.FreeBSD.org/docs.html first & experiment a bit with an installed FreeBSD system to see if you can find something interesting. Finally, a great source of knowledge about the way FreeBSD works is the source itself. I still can't believe all the stuff I've learned by reading parts of the source tree during the past 4-5 years, and I have *so* *much* more to learn... - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 00:16:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C407816A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 00:16:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51403.mail.yahoo.com (web51403.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E42243D31 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 00:16:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iyanski@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20041017001632.76736.qmail@web51403.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [210.213.193.24] by web51403.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 17:16:32 PDT Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 17:16:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Ian Bert Tusil To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Site link X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 00:16:33 -0000 Hi! I'm Ian. I'm making a personal website and I'd like to ask if it's possible to post a link to your site from mine. Hope to hear from you soon. Thank you and God Bless!!! by the way, my url is http://www.iyanski.cjb.net ian ===== ------------------------------------------------------------------ "Human knowledge belongs to the world..." ------------------------------------------------------------------ Ian Bert Tusil Reach me via: iyanski@*.* www.isnare.com http://v4.livegate.net/iyanski _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 00:53:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A5C16A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 00:53:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sarajevo.pacific.net.sg (sarajevo.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 740BF43D41 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 00:53:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 30693 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2004 00:53:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell2.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.192) by sarajevo with SMTP; 17 Oct 2004 00:53:50 -0000 Received: from pacific.net.sg ([210.24.202.141]) by maxwell2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP <20041017005350.XDXS27058.maxwell2.pacific.net.sg@pacific.net.sg>; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 08:53:50 +0800 Message-ID: <4171C2B7.40104@pacific.net.sg> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 08:54:15 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: h References: <89ceee7041014145219205f96@mail.gmail.com> <89ceee7041015112047efbe66@mail.gmail.com> <89ceee70410151505169a590d@mail.gmail.com> <200410160020.22899.h@erathia.be> In-Reply-To: <200410160020.22899.h@erathia.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firefox-1.0.1.p_2 crashing on javascript X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 00:53:58 -0000 Hi, h wrote: > bogus ports such as firefox-1.0.1.p_2 should be moved to firefox-devel or The problems are never detected if the port is not brought to the masses like this. As an example, it works perfectly on my machine like it is working perfectly on many others. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 01:10:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8DA16A4CE; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 01:10:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jetspin.drizzle.com (jetspin.drizzle.com [216.162.192.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB5643D3F; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 01:10:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kurpis@drizzle.com) Received: from dale2 (ava03.drizzle.com [216.162.193.66]) by jetspin.drizzle.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id i9H19tZ1022985; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 18:09:56 -0700 Message-ID: <043e01c4b3e4$f28c1a80$42c1a2d8@dale2> From: "Peter Kurpis" To: , Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 18:02:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Freebsd work on Toshiba Satellite A25 laptop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 01:10:10 -0000 Hi, I've had problems installing FreeBSD on laptops before, so I'm = asking in advance. :-) Does FreeBSD work on a Toshiba Satellite A25 laptop? What version? = Does 4.x? Does X? (Windows says it has a Trident CyberALADDiN-P4 video, and a = SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio (Analog Devices, Inc.) sound.) Any tips for kernel rebuild? Thanks in advance! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 01:43:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAF116A4CF for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 01:43:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp814.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp814.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8521843D1F for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 01:43:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from addymin@pacbell.net) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.12?) (m?chinn@pacbell.net@63.201.230.232 with plain) by smtp814.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Oct 2004 01:43:36 -0000 Message-ID: <4171CF9A.2050708@pacbell.net> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 18:49:14 -0700 From: Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Kurpis References: <043e01c4b3e4$f28c1a80$42c1a2d8@dale2> In-Reply-To: <043e01c4b3e4$f28c1a80$42c1a2d8@dale2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd work on Toshiba Satellite A25 laptop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: addymin@pacbell.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 01:43:36 -0000 Peter Kurpis wrote: > Hi, I've had problems installing FreeBSD on laptops before, so I'm asking in advance. :-) > > Does FreeBSD work on a Toshiba Satellite A25 laptop? What version? Does 4.x? > > Does X? (Windows says it has a Trident CyberALADDiN-P4 video, and a SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio (Analog Devices, Inc.) sound.) > > Any tips for kernel rebuild? > > Thanks in advance! > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Peter: Try this site for reference: (The FreeBSD Laptop Compatibility List) http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/ Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 01:51:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E898B16A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 01:51:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao12.cox.net (lakermmtao12.cox.net [68.230.240.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72F5743D1F for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 01:51:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nharrison@cox.net) Received: from [68.13.42.191] by lakermmtao12.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.04 201-2131-111-106-20040729) with ESMTP id <20041017015112.SVME13338.lakermmtao12.cox.net@[68.13.42.191]> for ; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 21:51:12 -0400 Message-ID: <4171D048.1020808@cox.net> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 20:52:08 -0500 From: Ned Harrison User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040930 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: gmplayer config file question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 01:51:14 -0000 I am running mplayer-gtk-esound-0.99.5_2 using the default GUI skin "Blue." Running mplayer from the command line, using -vo x11, I've been able to open sample clip's which I download. However, when I try to run the same clips via the GUI, I get this error message: Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device. Running gmplayer from a terminal, I get a more specific error message. ******* Playing /usr/home/ned/flix/clip1.avi. Cache fill: 0.00% (0 bytes) AVI file format detected. VIDEO: [MPG4] 320x240 24bpp 14.994 fps 331.0 kbps (40.4 kbyte/s) Clip info: Software: C:\WINNT\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL -AVICAP32- o100vc.dll - Osprey Capture Card 1, Digitization Time: Fri Nov 7 9:36:25 2003 ========================================================================== Opening audio decoder: [pcm] Uncompressed PCM audio decoder AUDIO: 8000 Hz, 2 ch, 16 bit (0x10), ratio: 32000->32000 (256.0 kbit) Selected audio codec: [pcm] afm:pcm (Uncompressed PCM) ========================================================================== It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available. Run 'xvinfo' to verify its Xv support and read DOCS/HTML/en/devices.html#xv! See 'mplayer -vo help' for other (non-xv) video out drivers. Try -vo x11 ****** I copied the sample config file to my personal ~/.mplayer directory. Most of the options I left commented out, except for; vo=x11, fs=yes, and skin = Blue. (And yes I commented out the last line of the config file.) Any suggestions would be appreciated. If more information is needed just let me know. Thank you, Ned From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 01:56:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0103916A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 01:56:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC0343D55 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 01:56:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garya@dreamchaser.org) Received: from [12.32.36.74] (imagination.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.74]) i9H1ucl5059753 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 19:56:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from garya@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4171D15D.5010004@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 19:56:45 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: installation of sendmail milters, security questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 01:56:40 -0000 Hello all, Searches on freebsd.org, google and sendmail.org didn't really resolve this to my satisfaction; probably my lack of brain cells... Trying to install milter-greylist. After configuring sendmail, and without the milter-greylist daemon running, maillog contains messages of the type: sm-mta[59533]: i9H12H4P059533: Milter (greylist): local socket name /var/milter-greylist/milter-greylist.sock unsafe From what I've been able to dig up, this is because sendmail thinks it's unsafe to read/write that socket. Since milter-greylist was not actually running when I did this, (I hadn't started it manually or configured a script to auto start it) I assumed it had something to do with directory prermissions / ownership. Upon checking, I discovered /var/milter-greylist was owned by smmsp, so I changed it to root. Unfortunately, that didn't solve the problem. I'm at a loss to understand what else is causing sendmail to think that socket is unsafe. Can someone hand me a clue? Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 02:10:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3EA16A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 02:10:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao05.cox.net (lakermmtao05.cox.net [68.230.240.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A35C43D5D for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 02:10:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from dolphin.local.net ([68.11.30.24]) by lakermmtao05.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.04 201-2131-111-106-20040729) with ESMTP id <20041017021018.XMJA26541.lakermmtao05.cox.net@dolphin.local.net> for ; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 22:10:18 -0400 Received: from dolphin.local.net (localhost.local.net [127.0.0.1]) by dolphin.local.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id i9H2AHoe005848 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 21:10:17 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 21:10:11 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041016211011.27194f79@dolphin.local.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; amd64-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Bizarre compile error (gcc 3.4.2 on 6.0-CURRENT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 02:10:18 -0000 Just out of curiosity, I commented out the BROKEN lines in /usr/ports/sysutils/pib/Makefile and tried building the port. Right away, I ran into the weirdest error that I cannot make any sense out of (whitespace added for clarity): dolphin:root:/usr/ports/sysutils/pib# make ===> Building for pib-1.2 Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/ports/sysutils/pib/work/pib-1.2 cc -O2 -pipe -march=athlon64 -mmmx -m3dnow -msse -msse2 -m64 -I/usr/local/include/tcl8.2-I/usr/local/include/tk8.2 -I/usr/X11R6/include -DUSE_XACCESS-DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_LIMITS_H=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DTK_FILE_COUNT=_r-DNEED_MATHERR=1 -DTK_LIBRARY=\"/usr/local/lib/tk8.2\" -c tkXAccess.c In file included from tkXAccess.c:26: tkPort.h:136: error: conflicting types for 'Tcl_Panic' tkPort.h:136: note: a parameter list with an ellipsis can't match an empty parameter name list declaration /usr/local/include/tcl8.2/tclDecls.h:38: error: previous declaration of 'Tcl_Panic' was here tkPort.h:136: error: conflicting types for 'Tcl_Panic' tkPort.h:136: note: a parameter list with an ellipsis can't match an empty parameter name list declaration /usr/local/include/tcl8.2/tclDecls.h:38: error: previous declaration of'Tcl_Panic' was here *** Error code 1 What's so strange about this error is that the file where the error occurs does not even mention Tcl_Panic(). Rather, the offending line at tkPort.h:136 is this: extern void panic(); While the line at /usr/local/include/tcl8.2/tclDecls.h:38 is this: EXTERN void Tcl_Panic _ANSI_ARGS_(TCL_VARARGS(char *,format)); Why would the compiler think that these two completely different identifiers were referring to the same object? -- Conrad J. Sabatier -- "In Unix veritas" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 02:28:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9C416A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 02:28:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCAED43D3F for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 02:28:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v18so34082rnb for ; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 19:28:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=n05s3vRZESji8blw9CgbNEHfhYSzYDvzMycFPN6sai+djlG1gkUyijbf7mAoP5ZoAUEX1adsvRjMZj/pnB6OgiuYUJMixoB/o2LogAOJXO9fr1e/YDHm8LiFOS6yMsPX7dolR9Vrke1bI11PRp6RmTg00JPWZbmN70zlaSN/Kz8 Received: by 10.38.206.72 with SMTP id d72mr15356rng; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 19:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.206.40 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 19:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 07:58:39 +0530 From: Subhro To: Ian Bert Tusil In-Reply-To: <20041017001632.76736.qmail@web51403.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041017001632.76736.qmail@web51403.mail.yahoo.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Site link X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Subhro List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 02:28:42 -0000 On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 17:16:32 -0700 (PDT), Ian Bert Tusil wrote: > ask if it's possible to post a link to your site from > mine. Hope to hear from you soon. I guess you can do it. Regards S. -- Subhro Sankha Kar School of Information Technology Block AQ-13/1 Sector V ZIP 700091 India From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 02:35:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B74A16A4CE; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 02:35:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jetspin.drizzle.com (jetspin.drizzle.com [216.162.192.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC0F43D31; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 02:35:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kurpis@drizzle.com) Received: from dale2 (ava09.drizzle.com [216.162.193.72]) by jetspin.drizzle.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id i9H2Z1Z1029592; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 19:35:02 -0700 Message-ID: <044401c4b3f0$d66ff180$42c1a2d8@dale2> From: "Peter Kurpis" To: References: <043e01c4b3e4$f28c1a80$42c1a2d8@dale2> <4171CF9A.2050708@pacbell.net> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 19:27:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd work on Toshiba Satellite A25 laptop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 02:35:15 -0000 Thanks, Michael. I saw this before, but the A25 is not listed. The A20 is, but I'm not sure how similar the hardware is. Alternatively, is there a list of supported hardware I could check (i.e. for the video, sound, modem...)? I tried finding one on http://www.freebsd.org, but couldn't. > Peter: > > Try this site for reference: (The FreeBSD Laptop Compatibility List) > > http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/ > > Michael > > Peter Kurpis wrote: > > > Hi, I've had problems installing FreeBSD on laptops before, so I'm asking in advance. :-) > > > > Does FreeBSD work on a Toshiba Satellite A25 laptop? What version? Does 4.x? > > > > Does X? (Windows says it has a Trident CyberALADDiN-P4 video, and a SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio (Analog Devices, Inc.) sound.) > > > > Any tips for kernel rebuild? > > > > Thanks in advance! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 03:44:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604B716A4CE; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 03:44:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D758A43D53; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 03:44:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [10.0.1.2] ([12.106.19.228]) (authenticated bits=0) i9H3im8M002616; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 22:44:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) In-Reply-To: <044401c4b3f0$d66ff180$42c1a2d8@dale2> References: <043e01c4b3e4$f28c1a80$42c1a2d8@dale2> <4171CF9A.2050708@pacbell.net> <044401c4b3f0$d66ff180$42c1a2d8@dale2> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-3--581658214" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric Crist Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 22:43:45 -0500 To: "Peter Kurpis" X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.75.1, clamav-milter version 0.75c on grog.secure-computing.net X-Virus-Status: Clean cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: addymin@pacbell.net cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd work on Toshiba Satellite A25 laptop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 03:44:57 -0000 --Apple-Mail-3--581658214 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Oct 16, 2004, at 9:27 PM, Peter Kurpis wrote: > Thanks, Michael. I saw this before, but the A25 is not listed. The > A20 is, > but I'm not sure how similar the hardware is. > > Alternatively, is there a list of supported hardware I could check > (i.e. for > the video, sound, modem...)? I tried finding one on > http://www.freebsd.org, > but couldn't. You *could* just try it. That's what I usually do. You obviously know where to go if you need help. ;) ----- Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks --Apple-Mail-3--581658214 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkFx6nIACgkQRAAY9knOW+q54gCeL/59JfSMj2X6NcENvmx+6JuW dKoAn0Dmq4HQtyFK21J7U1tsNgOZ2WwQ =hqi/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-3--581658214-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 04:44:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9217016A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 04:44:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mattvirushome.dynu.com (h139-055-212-202.adsl.navix.net [139.55.212.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B3643D66 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 04:44:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mattvirus@navix.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (mattvirus.net [209.0.51.9])i9H4iXUG075709 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 23:44:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mattvirus@navix.net) Message-ID: <4171F8B0.2090008@navix.net> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 23:44:32 -0500 From: matt virus User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Windows/20040803) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <417164B0.6040408@navix.net> <200410162027.56330.Emanuel.Strobl@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <200410162027.56330.Emanuel.Strobl@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ntop 3.0 in daemon mode not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 04:44:36 -0000 it's 4.7, with patches and updates applied as needed Emanuel Strobl wrote: > > What OS version? 4.10-REL/-stable, 5.3-BETA, 6-current? > > >> >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 05:49:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9C316A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 05:49:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from starling.mail.pas.earthlink.net (starling.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766DB43D3F for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 05:49:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beaverm@corp.earthlink.net) Received: from [24.181.31.13] (helo=tower) by starling.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CJ3uk-0003Gq-AF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 22:49:06 -0700 From: "Mark Beaver" To: Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 01:53:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcS0Fgqfq5oCw4i6Q/ul/b0D5mZfzA== X-ELNK-Trace: 83936d1c7f8fa5c39649176a89d694c0f43c108795ac45071755a7940f0d4ba1a25efb23f1e2e860350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.181.31.13 Message-Id: <20041017054908.766DB43D3F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: FreeBSD PVR Solution -- any? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 05:49:08 -0000 I'd like to build a FreeBSD based PVR station with at least Svideo output and ideally digital coax sound (maybe not dolby digital) Currently I have: P3 350 448 Megs of ram 160Gigs of storage I'd like to know if anyone has had any luck with this type of system if so, what kind of hardware. If anyone thinks I'd need more hardware, please by all means let me know what you've had work for you, (working on a budget so nothing extra ordinary) I more or less just want a system that will record reasonably well, and possibly play back simultaneously if possible (given budget) Anyone have any suggestions ideas? FWIW: I'm looking for video cards w/ svideo out, and an encoder card (Hauppauge, or the like) Thanks, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 05:53:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC84816A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 05:53:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (brightstar.bomgardner.net [209.240.79.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F57E43D1D for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 05:53:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Gene@Bomgardner.net) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (morningstar [192.168.0.2]) i9H5rluA033372 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 00:53:48 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Gene@Bomgardner.net) Message-ID: <417208CA.9060407@Bomgardner.net> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 00:53:14 -0500 From: Gene Bomgardner User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freebsd-Questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: pkgdb / ruby aborting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 05:53:23 -0000 I've ben running into problems with pkgdb. I tried removing /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db then running 'pkgdb -F' . I get the following: [Rebuilding the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 146 packages found (-0 +146) .................................................................................................................................................. done] [Failed `Inappropriate file type or format'] [Updating the portsdb in /usr/ports ... - 11811 port entries found .........1000.........2000.........3000.........4000.........5000.........6000.........7000.........8000...../usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/portsdb.rb:587: [BUG] Bus Error ruby 1.8.2 (2004-07-29) [i386-freebsd5] ---> Checking the package registry database Missing origin: bsdpan-Compress-Zlib-1.22 Abort (Core Dumped) # […] UID:0 exited on signal 6 Does anyone have any idea why ruby is aborting? (I know next to nothing about ruby18) Thanks for any help. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 06:10:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F5916A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 06:10:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms05.mailstreet2003.net (MS05.mailstreet2003.net [63.251.155.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCEE643D53 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 06:10:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@sigd.net) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 02:10:02 -0400 Message-ID: <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC22021564EC@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: pkgdb / ruby aborting Thread-Index: AcS0DeUMhpOBHoh6QNKaNxNsX3jl5QAAeCnw From: "Haulmark, Chris" To: "Gene Bomgardner" , Subject: RE: pkgdb / ruby aborting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 06:10:41 -0000 =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of=20 > Gene Bomgardner > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 12:53 AM > To: Freebsd-Questions@freebsd.org > Subject: pkgdb / ruby aborting >=20 > I've ben running into problems with pkgdb. I tried removing=20 > /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db then running 'pkgdb -F' . >=20 > I get the following: >=20 > [Rebuilding the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 146=20 > packages found (-0 +146)=20 > .............................................................. > .............................................................. > ......................=20 > done] > [Failed `Inappropriate file type or format'] [Updating the portsdb=20 > in /usr/ports ... - 11811 port entries found=20 > .........1000.........2000.........3000.........4000.........5 > 000.........6000.........7000.........8000...../usr/local/lib/ > ruby/site_ruby/1.8/portsdb.rb:587:=20 > [BUG] Bus Error > ruby 1.8.2 (2004-07-29) [i386-freebsd5] >=20 > ---> Checking the package registry database > Missing origin: bsdpan-Compress-Zlib-1.22 > Abort (Core Dumped) >=20 > # [=85] UID:0 exited on signal 6 >=20 > Does anyone have any idea why ruby is aborting? (I know next=20 > to nothing=20 > about ruby18) I would suggest you to look back several days ago on the FreeBSD mailing lists as this problem has been solved quite few times. >=20 > Thanks for any help. >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 >=20 -- Chris Haulmark System Admin. Freelancer "In market for IT corrections for a salary." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 07:03:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A2D16A4CE; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 07:03:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [66.154.97.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE77843D5D; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 07:03:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F8955898; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 00:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nezlok.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 54909-07; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 00:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D41485892; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20041017071002.D41485892@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2004-09-26 - 2004-10-16 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 07:03:02 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 09:59:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A8716A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 09:59:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp106.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp106.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.169.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D42DE43D2F for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 09:59:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from benwy_01@yahoo.com.au) Received: from unknown (HELO ?210.54.193.50?) (benwy?01@210.54.193.50 with plain) by smtp106.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Oct 2004 09:59:23 -0000 Message-ID: <41724303.5060707@yahoo.com.au> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 23:01:39 +1300 From: Ben Washington-Yule User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040918 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Text-based mail program which handles webmail. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 09:59:24 -0000 I have a Yahoomail account and receive messages with Mozilla Mail but I would like to at least try a non-GUI mail program. I have heard of mutt and pine but I am not sure if I can download my webmail (Yahoo) messages with them. I am sure that the information is available on the internet but my research thus far has been for the most part too technical for my understanding but I have deduced that my problem has something to do with pop, whatever that may be. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 09:59:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F5A16A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 09:59:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.llorien.org (mail.llorien.org [212.88.225.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A92E443D4C for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 09:59:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from h=freebsd-questions=freebsd.org=qxosxxes@erathia.be) Received: from localhost (mail.llorien.org) [127.0.0.1] by mail.llorien.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA:16) id=1CJ7ow-0007HM-5G for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:59:25 +0200 Received: from [213.118.66.12] (helo=D576420C.kabel.telenet.be) by mail.llorien.org with asmtp (SSL 3.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_MD5:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1CJ7ot-0007HI-6k for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:59:19 +0200 From: h To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:59:27 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <043e01c4b3e4$f28c1a80$42c1a2d8@dale2> In-Reply-To: <043e01c4b3e4$f28c1a80$42c1a2d8@dale2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410171159.27613.h@erathia.be> X-Authenticated-Sender: h X-Spam-Score: 1.6 Subject: Re: Freebsd work on Toshiba Satellite A25 laptop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 09:59:26 -0000 installing freebsd on a laptop is like a nursing experience :-) On Sunday 17 October 2004 03:02, Peter Kurpis wrote: > Hi, I've had problems installing FreeBSD on laptops before, so I'm asking > in advance. :-) > > Does FreeBSD work on a Toshiba Satellite A25 laptop? What version? Does > 4.x? > > Does X? (Windows says it has a Trident CyberALADDiN-P4 video, and a > SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio (Analog Devices, Inc.) sound.) > > Any tips for kernel rebuild? > > Thanks in advance! > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 10:02:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C75F16A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:02:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.llorien.org (mail.llorien.org [212.88.225.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B7343D2D for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:02:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from h=freebsd-questions=freebsd.org=qxosxxes@erathia.be) Received: from localhost (mail.llorien.org) [127.0.0.1] by mail.llorien.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA:16) id=1CJ7rR-0007Jn-A2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:02:00 +0200 Received: from [213.118.66.12] (helo=D576420C.kabel.telenet.be) by mail.llorien.org with asmtp (SSL 3.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_MD5:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1CJ7rQ-0007Jk-MF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:01:57 +0200 From: h To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:02:05 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <043e01c4b3e4$f28c1a80$42c1a2d8@dale2> In-Reply-To: <043e01c4b3e4$f28c1a80$42c1a2d8@dale2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410171202.05734.h@erathia.be> X-Authenticated-Sender: h X-Spam-Score: 1.6 Subject: Re: Freebsd work on Toshiba Satellite A25 laptop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:02:01 -0000 a problem you might encounter is the keyboard painfully slow during and after install (you can hardly walk around in menus and hit partition names) with 5.x. you can tweak that in kernel after installation. the problem does not occur with 4.x. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 10:03:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2E316A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:03:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dnsmail3.ior.navy.mil (noca.ior.navy.mil [205.56.210.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97D3643D2D for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:03:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil) Received: from cg69ubd01.vicksburg.navy.mil ([205.95.65.21]) i9HA2CQC019354; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:02:16 GMT Received: by CG69UBD01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id <4QZ74TZX>; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:07:06 +0300 Message-ID: From: JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil To: benwy_01@yahoo.com.au, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:07:01 +0300 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Subject: RE: Text-based mail program which handles webmail. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:03:59 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Washington-Yule [mailto:benwy_01@yahoo.com.au] > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 12:02 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Text-based mail program which handles webmail. > > > I have a Yahoomail account and receive messages with Mozilla > Mail but I > would like to at least try a non-GUI mail program. I have > heard of mutt > and pine but I am not sure if I can download my webmail > (Yahoo) messages > with them. I am sure that the information is available on the > internet > but my research thus far has been for the most part too > technical for my > understanding but I have deduced that my problem has something to do > with pop, whatever that may be. There is a port called fetch-yahoo or similar. It can be used to download mail to a local mailbox for reading. Not sure of anything that will read your wemail directly unless it supports external pop or imap as well. Yahoo I believe does support pop3 if I remember correctly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 10:06:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6FEB16A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:06:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8038643D41 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:06:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v18so39914rnb for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 03:06:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=XBxkrNzXka/rjw81vwpauyFGT2rp5oIVpZ2kCtBqdvAKIU7FotkvKnYFseXKHWKtKvWGkhyxP56SDUIFlAgGvG/DOakBmrKilXamgydA4u6Q6bqi9QZPEArN+TPYFA9LGyCERnaL5XUzfA4K5iD65ob2gbA5uGPtNAqAi9Rmk8M Received: by 10.38.98.26 with SMTP id v26mr94167rnb; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 03:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.206.40 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 03:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:36:43 +0530 From: Subhro To: "johnsobs@vicksburg.navy.mil" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: benwy_01@yahoo.com.au Subject: Re: Text-based mail program which handles webmail. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Subhro List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:06:46 -0000 On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:07:01 +0300, johnsobs@vicksburg.navy.mil wrote: > Not sure of anything that will read > your wemail directly unless it supports external pop or imap as well. Yahoo > I believe does support pop3 if I remember correctly. It does but its not free Regards S. -- Subhro Sankha Kar School of Information Technology Block AQ-13/1 Sector V ZIP 700091 India From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 10:07:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153AF16A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:07:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.llorien.org (mail.llorien.org [212.88.225.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7095043D5C for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:07:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from h=freebsd-questions=freebsd.org=qxosxxes@erathia.be) Received: from localhost (mail.llorien.org) [127.0.0.1] by mail.llorien.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA:16) id=1CJ7wP-0007UA-2X for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:07:07 +0200 Received: from [213.118.66.12] (helo=D576420C.kabel.telenet.be) by mail.llorien.org with asmtp (SSL 3.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_MD5:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1CJ7wO-0007U7-Js for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:07:04 +0200 From: h To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:07:13 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <41724303.5060707@yahoo.com.au> In-Reply-To: <41724303.5060707@yahoo.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410171207.13475.h@erathia.be> X-Authenticated-Sender: h X-Spam-Score: 1.6 Subject: Re: Text-based mail program which handles webmail. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:07:09 -0000 if your yahoo mail is pop3, then you can process your mail with fetchmail + pine, it works like a breeze. you don't need X and you can do it from remote via ssh without any problem. make sure you quit pine before you access your email with other programs, tho. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 10:15:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC03916A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:15:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp105.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp105.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.169.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B8B7443D45 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:15:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from benwy_01@yahoo.com.au) Received: from unknown (HELO ?210.54.193.50?) (benwy?01@210.54.193.50 with plain) by smtp105.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Oct 2004 10:15:09 -0000 Message-ID: <417246A9.3080605@yahoo.com.au> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 23:17:13 +1300 From: Ben Washington-Yule User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040918 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Receving two copies of message in this mailing list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:15:10 -0000 I have found that I am sent two copies of any message replying to a question I have asked; they are identical except one has this footer: _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Have I got an incorrect setting? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 10:18:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577F816A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:18:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp107.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp107.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.169.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F0CE43D45 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:18:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from benwy_01@yahoo.com.au) Received: from unknown (HELO ?210.54.193.50?) (benwy?01@210.54.193.50 with plain) by smtp107.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Oct 2004 10:18:54 -0000 Message-ID: <41724797.9060509@yahoo.com.au> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 23:21:11 +1300 From: Ben Washington-Yule User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040918 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41724303.5060707@yahoo.com.au> <200410171207.13475.h@erathia.be> In-Reply-To: <200410171207.13475.h@erathia.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Text-based mail program which handles webmail. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:18:55 -0000 h wrote: >if your yahoo mail is pop3, then you can process your mail with fetchmail + >pine, it works like a breeze. you don't need X and you can do it from remote >via ssh without any problem. make sure you quit pine before you access your >email with other programs, tho. >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > You have mentioned quite a few terms that I am unfamiliar with (fetchmail, remote, ssh). I have started reading the mail section of the handbook at the moment but I would like to know if there are any other resources I should be looking at regarding mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 10:20:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C9A16A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:20:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8B843D58 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:20:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lewiz@compsoc.man.ac.uk) Received: from compsoc.umu.man.ac.uk ([130.88.22.5] helo=mrtall.compsoc.man.ac.uk) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1CJ89a-0008sM-ML for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:20:42 +0100 Received: from lewiz by mrtall.compsoc.man.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1CJ89V-000OjD-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:20:37 +0100 Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:20:35 +0100 From: Lewis Thompson To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041017102035.GA93366@mrtall.compsoc.man.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 90A4 939E 3847 A3E4 8103 2A48 22DA B428 542F ED3F X-GPG-Info: http://www.lewiz.org/~lewiz/pgpkey / horowitz.surfnet.nl Sender: Lewis Thompson X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *1CJ89a-0008sM-ML*nSRTDQ4jkMs* Subject: World sendmail and LDAP. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:20:44 -0000 Hi, I'm just wondering if anybody can tell me how I can build sendmail from world with LDAP support. I currently have SASL support enabled in make.conf (copied examples from defaults/make.conf) and hoped it might be possible to do the same for LDAP. Can anybody tell me if this is the case? Thanks, -lewiz. -- ``I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now'' -Bob Dylan, 1964 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 10:24:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FCD16A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:24:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.llorien.org (mail.llorien.org [212.88.225.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D3F143D49 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:24:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from h=freebsd-questions=freebsd.org=qxosxxes@erathia.be) Received: from localhost (mail.llorien.org) [127.0.0.1] by mail.llorien.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA:16) id=1CJ8DZ-0007ZA-LY for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:24:52 +0200 Received: from [213.118.66.12] (helo=D576420C.kabel.telenet.be) by mail.llorien.org with asmtp (SSL 3.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_MD5:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1CJ8DZ-0007Z7-23 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:24:49 +0200 From: h To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:24:57 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <41724303.5060707@yahoo.com.au> <200410171207.13475.h@erathia.be> <41724797.9060509@yahoo.com.au> In-Reply-To: <41724797.9060509@yahoo.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410171224.57443.h@erathia.be> X-Authenticated-Sender: h X-Spam-Score: 1.6 Subject: Re: Text-based mail program which handles webmail. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:24:53 -0000 fetchmail is a MTA (mail transfer agent). you can install it from ports/mail. it is easy to configure the first time you run it. but make sure you can download your yahoo mail by pop3 first. people have suggested it is a paying yahoo feature. fetchmail doc is readable at http://catb.org/~esr/fetchmail/ checking your mail from remote means you can access your computer from another location (eg, your work place), start pine, and process mail like if you were home. to connect to your computer you must use ssh, as telnet is grossly insecure. but don't worry about this in the first place. On Sunday 17 October 2004 12:21, Ben Washington-Yule wrote: > h wrote: > >if your yahoo mail is pop3, then you can process your mail with fetchmail > > + pine, it works like a breeze. you don't need X and you can do it from > > remote via ssh without any problem. make sure you quit pine before you > > access your email with other programs, tho. > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > You have mentioned quite a few terms that I am unfamiliar with > (fetchmail, remote, ssh). I have started reading the mail section of the > handbook at the moment but I would like to know if there are any other > resources I should be looking at regarding mail? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 10:33:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3E816A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:33:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net (post-24.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B1B43D49 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:33:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([82.161.136.218]:9870 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CJ8Ll-00062G-7K for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:33:17 +0000 Received: from aseed.demon.nl (unknown [192.168.0.48]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 857841A9A7 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:43:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.0.48]) by aseed.demon.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F2832CD57 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:33:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([192.168.0.48]) by localhost (aseed.antenna.nl [192.168.0.48]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 49222-09 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:33:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aseed.demon.nl (unknown [192.168.0.48]) by aseed.demon.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4522C6FB for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:33:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 62.194.19.87 (SquirrelMail authenticated user albi); by aseed.demon.nl with HTTP; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:33:14 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <33401.62.194.19.87.1098009194.squirrel@62.194.19.87> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:33:14 +0200 (CEST) From: "albi" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal References: <41724303.5060707@yahoo.com.au> <200410171207.13475.h@erathia.be> <41724797.9060509@yahoo.com.au> In-Reply-To: <41724797.9060509@yahoo.com.au> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at aseed.antenna.nl Subject: Re: Text-based mail program which handles webmail. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:33:18 -0000 > You have mentioned quite a few terms that I am unfamiliar with > (fetchmail, remote, ssh). I have started reading the mail section of the handbook at the moment but I would like to know if there are any other resources I should be looking at regarding mail? i recommend using fetchyahoo for reading your yahoo-mail on your own machine (http://www.freshports.org/mail/fetchyahoo/), you can even choose a https-transfer with it afair Then install mutt (/usr/ports/mail/mutt) and make yourself a good ~/.muttrc Take a look at http://www.mutt.org, there's loads of help and examples for mutt there From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 10:39:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504AB16A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:39:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E407643D1F for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:39:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i9HAdGVs009348 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:39:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i9HAdG5q009347; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:39:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:39:16 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Gary Aitken Message-ID: <20041017103916.GA9251@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Gary Aitken , questions@freebsd.org References: <4171D15D.5010004@dreamchaser.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4171D15D.5010004@dreamchaser.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:39:16 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installation of sendmail milters, security questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:39:31 -0000 --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 16, 2004 at 07:56:45PM -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: > Trying to install milter-greylist. > After configuring sendmail, and without the milter-greylist daemon > running, maillog contains messages of the type: >=20 > sm-mta[59533]: i9H12H4P059533: Milter (greylist): local socket name=20 > /var/milter-greylist/milter-greylist.sock unsafe >=20 > From what I've been able to dig up, this is because sendmail thinks > it's unsafe to read/write that socket. No, this is sendmail's convoluted way of telling you that milter-greylist isn't actually running, and so it would be unsafe (ie. might result in lost e-mail) if it was to attempt to communicate via the socket with that non-existent process. It doesn't have anything to do with the ownership/permissions of either the milter-greylist socket, or the milter-greylist process itself. The answer is just to start up the milter-greylist process. > Upon checking, I discovered /var/milter-greylist was owned by smmsp, > so I changed it to root. Unfortunately, that didn't solve the > problem. Um... don't do that. Leave the permissions as they were when the port was installed. The various parts of the mail system are deliberately configured to run as *non root* for security reasons: essentially, if someone can take over the process by eg. a buffer overflow attack, all they get is a process with ordinary user credentials, so limiting the amount of damage they can do. /var/milter-greylist has to be writable by the UID milter-greylist runs as, and the best way of doing that is to give that UID ownership of the directory. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBckvTiD657aJF7eIRAmZfAKCz86JKRQM6oEzGXcqMYftDJQcKDACZAU81 sXqD9tkYsZeSlCkHsrqmS2Y= =IQyB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 10:58:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B8316A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:58:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F5043D48 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:58:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i9HAwqVn009502 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:58:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i9HAwqDG009501; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:58:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:58:52 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Ben Washington-Yule Message-ID: <20041017105852.GB9251@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Ben Washington-Yule , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <417246A9.3080605@yahoo.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uQr8t48UFsdbeI+V" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <417246A9.3080605@yahoo.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:58:52 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Receving two copies of message in this mailing list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:58:58 -0000 --uQr8t48UFsdbeI+V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 17, 2004 at 11:17:13PM +1300, Ben Washington-Yule wrote: > I have found that I am sent two copies of any message replying to a=20 > question I have asked; they are identical except one has this footer: >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 > Have I got an incorrect setting? Standard practice on this list is to reply to both the list and the original sender. That's because: - the list is open to all -- it's pointed out as one of the first places to look for support in the standard Message of the Day (/etc/motd) which will be about the first thing you see when logging into a newly installed FreeBSD system. So many of the questioners may well not be subscribed to the list. - replies to questions should always be copied to the list, as they will then be archived in several places around the net (not least http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/) That collected knowledge is a very valuable resource which you should always search to make sure that your questions haven't been asked and answered before now. The two messages you're seeing are the direct reply to you and (the one with the extra footer) the reply delivered via the list. There's several ways of avoiding having to plough through everything twice. First (and most obviously) you can alter your subscription settings via Mailman. Go to: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions Then type in your subscription e-mail address in the last text box on that page and click the button beside it that says 'Unsubscribe or edit options'. On the next page, type in the password you used when you originally subscribed and click on 'Log in'. On the next page, scroll down until you see the 'Avoid duplicate copies of messages?' entry. Click 'Yes' on the radio button to the righ hand side, then click 'Submit My Changes'. Et Voil=E0. There are also tricks you can do with procmail to achive the same effect. But I'll leave describing that for another day -- it's easy enough to find out how by googling and reading man pages. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --uQr8t48UFsdbeI+V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBclBsiD657aJF7eIRAjtnAJwJZtysH0P9tkwi1xygzrJvA667CgCbBU07 O5uUZBeYhOYI4Z+orNboNnk= =/JAC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uQr8t48UFsdbeI+V-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 11:00:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5C816A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:00:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.broadpark.no (mail.broadpark.no [217.13.4.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3380343D54 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:00:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from henrik.w.lund@broadpark.no) Received: from [10.0.0.3] (52.80-202-129.nextgentel.com [80.202.129.52]) by mail.broadpark.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C194CFE; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:01:15 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <41724FE4.20506@broadpark.no> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:56:36 +0200 From: Henrik W Lund User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041013 X-Accept-Language: no, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Juszczak References: <417183FE.1000102@atopia.net> In-Reply-To: <417183FE.1000102@atopia.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: accidental fdisk -BI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:00:29 -0000 Matt Juszczak wrote: > I accidently did an accidental fdisk -BI on /dev/da0, which is where my > main freebsd root is. I meant to do it on da1 but my twiddle fingers > typed 0 instead of 1. I rebooted the box thinking I'd have to reinstall > (luckily my user data is on a different drive), but the box came back up > fine ... I was shocked. > > Can I continue to use it? Did I just not mess anything up some how? Or > have I messed something up secretly and even though the box runs fine a > reinstall should still occur? > > Thanks! > > -Matt Greetings! What you just did was zero out the bootcode portion of the MBR (which is fine if you don't multiboot) and initialize the partition table of the MBR to read just one FreeBSD slice covering the entire disk (also fine if you only had one FreeBSD partition there to begin with). What this means is that any other slices you had on the disk will be gone. I don't know what disk layout you had, but something tells me that you may have erased /usr, /var and /tmp (if you used the default fdisk layout when installing FreeBSD, that is). I'm no expert, but I think this _can_ lead to complications. -- Henrik W Lund From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 11:24:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0533F16A4D2 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:24:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C46D43D66 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:24:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i9HBNxp6009707 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:23:59 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i9HBNxEn009706; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:23:59 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:23:59 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Lewis Thompson Message-ID: <20041017112359.GC9251@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Lewis Thompson , questions@freebsd.org References: <20041017102035.GA93366@mrtall.compsoc.man.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mvpLiMfbWzRoNl4x" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041017102035.GA93366@mrtall.compsoc.man.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:23:59 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: World sendmail and LDAP. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:24:05 -0000 --mvpLiMfbWzRoNl4x Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 17, 2004 at 11:20:35AM +0100, Lewis Thompson wrote: > I'm just wondering if anybody can tell me how I can build sendmail from > world with LDAP support. I currently have SASL support enabled in > make.conf (copied examples from defaults/make.conf) and hoped it might > be possible to do the same for LDAP. Can anybody tell me if this is the > case? Thanks, This is certainly possible, or, at least by my reading of various files, it should be possible. See the mail/sendmail port -- particularly files/site.config.m4.ldap and Makefile for details. I think that what you need to do is: - install one of the net/openldap2{2,1}-{sasl-,}client ports according to taste - edit the /etc/make.conf settings and append: '-I/usr/local/include -DLDAPMAP' to SENDMAIL_CFLAGS '-L/usr/local/lib' to SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS (if it isn't there already) '-lldap -llber' to SENDMAIL_LDADD Then recompile and reinstall sendmail. There's plenty in /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README on how to configure sendmail to use its LDAP support once it has it. I think, but I'm not at all sure, that you should configure sendmail with both SASL and LDAP support for best results. I'd be interested in hearing how you get on with this -- plus it would probably be a good note to add to the default make.conf file. Alternatively, you can just install the mail/sendmail-ldap port. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --mvpLiMfbWzRoNl4x Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBclZPiD657aJF7eIRAsNAAKCKL2i8bY+7T7yEEaDHJZWDptcQ+QCeJoCx +Z/vstfplvXVFPJa8FRllZc= =z16v -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mvpLiMfbWzRoNl4x-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 11:39:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38A6216A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:39:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns2.wananchi.com (ns2.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372B943D1D for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:39:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from wash by ns2.wananchi.com with local (Exim 4.42 #0 (FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE)) id 1CJ9NE-000JGW-78 by authid ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:38:52 +0300 Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:38:52 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: Lewis Thompson Message-ID: <20041017113852.GA48805@ns2.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , Lewis Thompson , FBSD-Q References: <20041017102035.GA93366@mrtall.compsoc.man.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041017102035.GA93366@mrtall.compsoc.man.ac.uk> X-Disclaimer: Any views expressed in this message,where not explicitly attributed otherwise, are mine alone!. X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.6i (2004-02-01) X-Designation: Systems Administrator, Wananchi Online Ltd. X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: FBSD-Q Subject: Re: World sendmail and LDAP. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:39:10 -0000 * Lewis Thompson [20041017 13:21]: wrote: > Hi, > > I'm just wondering if anybody can tell me how I can build sendmail from > world with LDAP support. I currently have SASL support enabled in > make.conf (copied examples from defaults/make.conf) and hoped it might > be possible to do the same for LDAP. Can anybody tell me if this is the > case? Thanks, I'd suggest you DISABLE sendmail in /etc/make.conf and instead build /usr/ports/mail/postfix20 instead Use this HOWTO: http://alinux.washcoll.edu/docs/plc/postfix-courier-howto.html It's from a project I know about. However I use Exim, with MySQL so don't ask me Postfix-LDAP questions ;) Sendmail sucks! Postfix will make you happy. I know people who are so happy with it. -Wash http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html -- +======================================================================+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Odhiambo Washington Zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ | Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| Tel: +254 20 313985-9 +254 20 313922 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | GSM: +254 722 743223 +254 733 744121 +======================================================================+ "I couldn't remember when I had been so disappointed. Except perhaps the time I found out that M&Ms really *do* melt in your hand ..." -- Peter Oakley From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 11:50:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5CFA16A4D2 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:50:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F6343D41 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:50:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ben@spooty.net) Received: from m114-mp1.cvx3-b.pop.dial.ntli.net ([80.1.84.114]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.comESMTP <20041017114954.LQKX13844.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@m114-mp1.cvx3-b.pop.dial.ntli.net> for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:49:54 +0100 From: Ben Paley To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:38:04 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410171238.04809.ben@spooty.net> Subject: Giant and MPSAFE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:50:41 -0000 Hello, bash-2.05b$ uname -a FreeBSD potato.hogsedge.net 5.3-BETA5 FreeBSD 5.3-BETA5 #0: Mon Sep 20 07:49:52 BST 2004 root@potato.hogsedge.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/POTATO i386 I've just noticed a nasty looking message at boot: WARNING: debug.mpsafenet forced to 0 as aio requires Giant WARNING: MPSAFE network stack disabled, expect reduced performance. And then subsequently there are a good few references to things being (from memory) [GIANT LOCKED] Anyone have any idea what this is about, and if it's actually bad, and how I can sort it out? Thanks a lot, Ben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 16 15:30:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31AE316A4CE for ; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 15:30:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay22-f23.bay22.hotmail.com [64.4.16.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA5243D31 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 15:30:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mingzhang2004@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 08:30:01 -0700 Received: from 218.104.50.218 by by22fd.bay22.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 15:29:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [218.104.50.218] X-Originating-Email: [mingzhang2004@hotmail.com] X-Sender: mingzhang2004@hotmail.com From: "Ming Zhang" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 15:29:19 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2004 15:30:01.0384 (UTC) FILETIME=[008B3A80:01C4B395] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:01:02 +0000 Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 15:30:03 -0000 in this url: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-March/041894.html the last paragraph is like this: PPP adapter Broadband Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.12 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.12 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled I want to know how to set the Default Gateway to be the pppoe server's ip. Or it's impossible? _________________________________________________________________ ÓëÁª»úµÄÅóÓѽøÐн»Á÷£¬ÇëʹÓà MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com/cn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 01:21:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07AA16A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 01:21:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shell.lmi.net (shell.lmi.net [66.117.140.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9DAF43D3F for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 01:21:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subjazz@lmi.net) Received: from LMI (66-117-146-44.rdsl.lmi.net [66.117.146.44]) by shell.lmi.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id i9H1LZfM075064; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 18:21:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000e01c4b3e8$36ce70a0$2c927542@lmi.net> From: "Paul Orsi" To: Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 18:25:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:01:02 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: subjazz@lmi.net Subject: freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 01:21:37 -0000 I was excitedly waiting to download the ISO's Sunday.Now its been put = off again to the 25th. ...///???4444fffff cool operating system! Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 13:24:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3B616A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:24:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B5C43D5F for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:24:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oliverfuchs@onlinehome.de) Received: from [212.227.126.179] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1CJB1u-00075A-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:24:58 +0200 Received: from [217.246.201.49] (helo=oliverfuchs.ath.cx) (TLSv1:EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1CJB1s-0005cV-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:24:57 +0200 Received: from oliverfuchs.ath.cx (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i9HDOkcq002675verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:24:48 +0200 Received: (from oliverfuchs1@localhost) by oliverfuchs.ath.cx (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) id i9HDOj7k002605 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:24:45 +0200 Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:24:45 +0200 From: Oliver Fuchs To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041017132420.GA1896@oliverfuchs.ath.cx> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:c2b2791553508cc938db2bcf18721a3c Subject: tar a complete drive excluding one directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:24:59 -0000 Hi, I want in FreeBSD RELEASE 5.2.1 tar a complete / system except one directory e.g. /mnt where I want to store the tar archive. In linux I do: cd / tar cvzf /mnt/root.bak-$(date +%Y%m%d).tar.gz . --exclude=proc --exclude=mnt Trying this in FreeBSD is not accepted because tar is still trying to tar the /mnt directory and the to be made archive. What I am doing wrong? Oliver -- ... don't touch the bang bang fruit From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 13:32:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1203916A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:32:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gomez.cs.pitt.edu (gomez.cs.pitt.edu [130.49.220.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8922C43D31 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:32:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ywang4@cs.pitt.edu) Received: from selenium.cs.pitt.edu (selenium.cs.pitt.edu [130.49.220.33]) by gomez.cs.pitt.edu (8.12.10/8.12.5) with ESMTP id i9HDWjKW007944 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 09:32:45 -0400 (envelope-from ywang4@cs.pitt.edu) Received: from selenium.cs.pitt.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by selenium.cs.pitt.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i9HDWjvD002502 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 09:32:45 -0400 Received: from localhost (ywang4@localhost)i9HDWiWl002498 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 09:32:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: selenium.cs.pitt.edu: ywang4 owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 09:32:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Yan Wang To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: TCFS on FreeBSD (fwd) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:32:47 -0000 Dear all, I tried to port Transparent Cryptographic File System (http://www.tcfs.it) OpenBSD version to FreeBSD 4.8, but failed. Has any one tried this before? How much modification is needed? Any info is appreciated. Thanks, Yan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 13:35:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EADC16A4CF for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:35:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from enterprise.thenetnow.com (enterprise.thenetnow.com [65.39.193.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA2743D2F for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:35:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from GRANT (hpeel.ody.ca [216.240.12.2])i9HDZ6k81040 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 09:35:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Message-ID: <007c01c4b44e$1ef8b100$6601a8c0@GRANT> From: "Grant Peel" To: Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 09:34:17 -0400 Organization: The Net Now MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Sendmail 8.13.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Grant Peel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:35:10 -0000 Hello, I have been reading about the probelems with the previous version of sendmail and am trying to upgrade to the newest version found in ports sendmail-8-13.1 without success. The port fails in the make process with the error: make clean install ... 6 of 6 tests completed successfully ============================================================ cc -O -pipe -I. -I../../include -DNEWDB -DNIS -DMAP_REGEX -c t-shm.c cc -o t-shm t-shm.o libsm.a -lutil ============================================================ ./t-shm *** Signal 12 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/sendmail/work/sendmail-8.13.1/obj.FreeBSD.4.4-RELEASE.i386/libsm. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/sendmail/work/sendmail-8.13.1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/sendmail. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/sendmail. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/sendmail. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/sendmail. I am using FBSD 4.4 (I know its old, but it's life is limited....). Any ideas on what this is and if I can fix it? -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 13:36:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C7C216A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:36:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03ACA43D39 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:36:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sepultura.tribal@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 74so108938rnk for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 06:36:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eaqs5Nejplxb0oq1XiZ3xIFZzRWuPiqOLQ4Knp8vkICkgTPJtHNB9dtw8nDCR953ZzJKuXFh5CVX8geXL6Dl77FUl1JhgSMIkUJ7WuNZ0FvqMVFdyldwvcnwy2Bhrx82oQXYVMJIGVP65ftgCTqVlCZX5RNsjkp9bfhbfs2bIwM Received: by 10.39.1.26 with SMTP id d26mr1004384rni; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 06:36:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.22.9 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 06:36:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:36:26 +0800 From: Max To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problems with Internet on FreeBSD 5.2 under Virtual PC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Max List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:36:29 -0000 I would like to know how you configure Internet under such a system because even though after trying NAT and reinstalling many times, I still can't get Internet to work! Thanks in advance for any help offered. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 13:43:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8330E16A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:43:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pop-a065d23.pas.sa.earthlink.net (pop-a065d23.pas.sa.earthlink.net [207.217.121.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697D443D1F for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:43:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rpratt1950@earthlink.net) Received: from fl-69-34-142-219.dyn.sprint-hsd.net ([69.34.142.219] helo=kt.weeble.com) by pop-a065d23.pas.sa.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1CJBJM-0005id-00; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 06:43:00 -0700 Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 09:42:59 -0400 From: Randy Pratt To: "Mark Beaver" Message-Id: <20041017094259.255a2a29.rpratt1950@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <20041017054908.766DB43D3F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> References: <20041017054908.766DB43D3F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD PVR Solution -- any? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:43:01 -0000 On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 01:53:43 -0500 "Mark Beaver" wrote: > I'd like to build a FreeBSD based PVR station with at least Svideo output > and ideally digital coax sound (maybe not dolby digital) > > Currently I have: > > P3 350 > 448 Megs of ram > 160Gigs of storage > > I'd like to know if anyone has had any luck with this type of system if so, > what kind of hardware. > > If anyone thinks I'd need more hardware, please by all means let me know > what you've had work for you, (working on a budget so nothing extra > ordinary) I more or less just want a system that will record reasonably > well, and possibly play back simultaneously if possible (given budget) > > Anyone have any suggestions ideas? > > FWIW: I'm looking for video cards w/ svideo out, and an encoder card > (Hauppauge, or the like). The Conexant MPEG-2 Codec driver for Hauppauge PVR-250/350 TV cards was added to the ports collection yesterday (16 Oct multimedia/pvr250). Updating your ports would pull that into your tree. There has been discussions of these cards on the freebsd-multimedia mailing list which would also be the best place to post any questions about the cards. I don't own one of the cards yet so I can't comment on the performance with the system you mentioned. Best regards, Randy -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 14:04:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955D816A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:04:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from biggie.spekt.net (biggie.spekt.net [67.18.79.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2DE43D31 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:04:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from radek@raadradd.com) Received: from raadradd.homeunix.org (bwv9.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.29.245.9]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by biggie.spekt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B300E401D; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:04:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: by raadradd.homeunix.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 17C21A564; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:04:36 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:04:35 +0200 From: Radek Kozlowski To: Ben Washington-Yule , albi Message-ID: <20041017140435.GA37640@werd> References: <41724303.5060707@yahoo.com.au> <200410171207.13475.h@erathia.be> <41724797.9060509@yahoo.com.au> <33401.62.194.19.87.1098009194.squirrel@62.194.19.87> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <33401.62.194.19.87.1098009194.squirrel@62.194.19.87> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Text-based mail program which handles webmail. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:04:37 -0000 On Sun, Oct 17, 2004 at 12:33:14PM +0200, albi wrote: > > You have mentioned quite a few terms that I am unfamiliar with > > (fetchmail, remote, ssh). I have started reading the mail section of > > the > handbook at the moment but I would like to know if there are any other > resources I should be looking at regarding mail? > > i recommend using fetchyahoo for reading your yahoo-mail on your own > machine (http://www.freshports.org/mail/fetchyahoo/), you can even > choose a https-transfer with it afair Then install mutt > (/usr/ports/mail/mutt) and make yourself a good ~/.muttrc Take a look > at http://www.mutt.org, there's loads of help and examples for mutt > there If Yahoo supports POP3 then all you need is Mutt, which has the ability to retrieve mail from a remote server. Also, have a look at this page: http://mutt.blackfish.org.uk/ -Radek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 14:15:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A5916A4D5 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:15:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from biggie.spekt.net (biggie.spekt.net [67.18.79.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F2F43D49 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:15:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from radek@raadradd.com) Received: from raadradd.homeunix.org (bwv9.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.29.245.9]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by biggie.spekt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB05401D; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:15:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: by raadradd.homeunix.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 53B04A564; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:15:25 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:15:25 +0200 From: Radek Kozlowski To: Oliver Fuchs Message-ID: <20041017141525.GB37640@werd> References: <20041017132420.GA1896@oliverfuchs.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041017132420.GA1896@oliverfuchs.ath.cx> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tar a complete drive excluding one directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:15:29 -0000 On Sun, Oct 17, 2004 at 03:24:45PM +0200, Oliver Fuchs wrote: > Hi, > > I want in FreeBSD RELEASE 5.2.1 tar a complete / system except one directory > e.g. /mnt where I want to store the tar archive. > In linux I do: > > cd / > tar cvzf /mnt/root.bak-$(date +%Y%m%d).tar.gz . --exclude=proc --exclude=mnt > > Trying this in FreeBSD is not accepted because tar is still trying to tar > the /mnt directory and the to be made archive. Try: # tar --exclude=proc --exclude=proc -cvzf \ /mnt/root.bak-$(date +%Y%m%d).tar.gz . -Radek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 14:55:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8760216A4DB for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:55:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8EF43D53 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:55:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from bsdbox.farid-hajji.net (bsdbox [192.168.254.3]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C253A4ACF1; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:54:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:56:33 +0200 From: cpghost@cordula.ws To: Radek Kozlowski Message-ID: <20041017145633.GC1316@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> References: <41724303.5060707@yahoo.com.au> <200410171207.13475.h@erathia.be> <41724797.9060509@yahoo.com.au> <33401.62.194.19.87.1098009194.squirrel@62.194.19.87> <20041017140435.GA37640@werd> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041017140435.GA37640@werd> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: albi cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Ben Washington-Yule Subject: Re: Text-based mail program which handles webmail. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:55:23 -0000 On Sun, Oct 17, 2004 at 04:04:35PM +0200, Radek Kozlowski wrote: > If Yahoo supports POP3 then all you need is Mutt, which has the ability > to retrieve mail from a remote server. BTW, mutt is good enough at IMAP too. Cheers, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 15:00:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E4B16A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:00:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tierra2.ng.fadesa.es (tierra2.ng.fadesa.es [195.55.55.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10E543D66 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:00:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fandino@ng.fadesa.es) Received: from [195.55.55.163] ([195.55.55.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by tierra2.ng.fadesa.es (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9HF02i3023274 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:00:02 +0200 Message-ID: <417288F2.9090502@ng.fadesa.es> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:00:02 +0200 From: fandino User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: gl, en, es MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <416EB6B1.6060405@ng.fadesa.es> <416F849F.8020508@solid-state-logic.com> <416F90E6.10108@ng.fadesa.es> <200410151223.33355.howells@kde.org> <416FF477.4010408@ng.fadesa.es> <20041015131432.srwo0wog000skgcs@www.sweetdreamsracing.biz> <41700BBB.50003@ng.fadesa.es> <20041015141611.t8cgso00co4wggoc@www.sweetdreamsracing.biz> <41713CB5.3010109@ng.fadesa.es> In-Reply-To: <41713CB5.3010109@ng.fadesa.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: user fandino from 195.55.55.163 X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.75.1, clamav-milter version 0.75c on tierra2 X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: FreeBSD and poor ata performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: fandino@ng.fadesa.es List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:00:07 -0000 > Kenneth Culver wrote: > >>> but then why does read/write tests over raw devices performs so bad? >>> AFAIK on raw devices not filesystem, journaling, caches, etc are >>> involved. >>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> >> Like I said before, you might not have been testing the throughput of >> the disks, >> instead you may have been testing the throughput of /dev/zero. > > > I woluld like to have the throughput of /dev/zero on my disks. :-) > > > # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null bs=1024k count=1024 > 1024+0 records in > 1024+0 records out > 1073741824 bytes transferred in 3.414659 secs (314450672 bytes/sec) I'm redirecting this thread to current@ because something seems broken. GNU/Linux 2.4.18 with ext2: 56848 K/sec FreeBSD 5.3b7 with default fs: 26347 K/sec FreeBSD 5.3b7 with default fs(async): 26566 K/sec FreeBSD 5.3b7 ata raid0* (two disks): 26131 K/sec FreeBSD 5.3b7 geom stripe* (two disks): 30063 K/sec FreeBSD 5.3b7 geom stripe** (four disks): 31891 K/sec OpenBSD 3.5 UFS fs: 55277 K/sec * Each disk of the raid had a throughput of approx. 15000 K/sec ** Each disk of the raid had a throughput of approx. 7500 K/sec Each disk of the raid split the throughput by half. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-October/040567.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 15:30:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF6F16A4CF for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:30:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from royk.itea.ntnu.no (royk.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.190.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA58B43D1F for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:30:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein-freebsd-questions@theloosingend.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by royk.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D73E67194 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:30:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mirrorball.thelosingend.net (m069c.studby.ntnu.no [129.241.130.69]) by royk.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:30:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 2909 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2004 15:30:22 -0000 Received: from m190d.studby.ntnu.no (129.241.131.190) by m069c.studby.ntnu.no with QMQP; 17 Oct 2004 15:30:22 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Oct 2004 15:30:11 -0000 Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:30:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen X-X-Sender: sveinhal@maren.thelosingend.net To: Henrik W Lund In-Reply-To: <41724FE4.20506@broadpark.no> Message-ID: <20041017172502.P872@maren.thelosingend.net> References: <417183FE.1000102@atopia.net> <41724FE4.20506@broadpark.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. cc: Matt Juszczak cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: accidental fdisk -BI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:30:24 -0000 [Henrik W Lund, 2004-10-17] > What this means is that any other slices you had on the disk will be gone. I > don't know what disk layout you had, but something tells me that you may have > erased /usr, /var and /tmp (if you used the default fdisk layout when > installing FreeBSD, that is). I'm no expert, but I think this _can_ lead to > complications. Note that BIOS partitions are not the same as BSD partitions. The former is known as slices in BSD. fdisk -BI /dev/da0 will initialize the disk for one *slice* covering the whole disk. BSD partitions inside this slice will not be afflicted, so /usr, /var and /tmp are probably still intact as well :) If there were other slices on the disk (bios partitions) the original partition table may be recovered using sysutils/gpart. Svein Halvor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 15:49:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820B316A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:49:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FBB043D62 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:49:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F1EB859 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:49:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 87782-10 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:49:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pooh.honeypot.net (pooh.honeypot.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f01:224:1::64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0363B808 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:49:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:49:45 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20041017001632.76736.qmail@web51403.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20041017001632.76736.qmail@web51403.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1381961.Voigq9nFxO"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200410171049.49084.kirk@strauser.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at honeypot.net Subject: Re: Site link X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:49:51 -0000 --nextPart1381961.Voigq9nFxO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday 16 October 2004 07:16 pm, Ian Bert Tusil wrote: > I'm Ian. I'm making a personal website and I'd like to > ask if it's possible to post a link to your site from > mine. Hope to hear from you soon. Thank you and God > Bless!!! This is the Internet. You can link to whatever you chose without asking, s= o=20 sayeth the courts. =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser --nextPart1381961.Voigq9nFxO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBBcpSd5sRg+Y0CpvERAn9dAJwNzYxW+2UKURXTayeddIIHt3iuKgCffDEt IzFZHEx8ynttysWRDhjOkxY= =GLAu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1381961.Voigq9nFxO-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 16:30:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6D916A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:30:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7566B43D3F for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:30:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garya@dreamchaser.org) Received: from [12.32.36.74] (imagination.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.74]) i9HGUtix001324 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:30:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from garya@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <41729E48.3080806@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:31:04 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.3 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.73]); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:30:55 -0600 (MDT) Subject: 4.10 startup sequencing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:30:57 -0000 Hello all, Since 4.10 doesn't use /etc/rc.d to merge standard and local startup sequencing, I'm wondering what the right way is to get a daemon to start up before one of the standard daemons. Specifically, I would like to start a milter before sendmail. I know it will work if started afterwards, or at least it seems to, but I would like to get rid of the WARNING message posted to the console at startup because the socket isn't present when sendmail starts. I don't see a way to do this short of modifying /etc/rc. Is there a better way, or should I just live with the warning until upgrading to 5.x, where /etc/rc.d and /usr/local/etc/rc.d sequencing hints are merged? Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 16:36:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F2516A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:36:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5365743D39 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:36:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [10.0.1.2] ([12.106.19.228]) (authenticated bits=0) i9HGaKgx000696; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:36:21 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) In-Reply-To: <417246A9.3080605@yahoo.com.au> References: <417246A9.3080605@yahoo.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-1--535364735" Message-Id: <8896E70E-205A-11D9-9C0F-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric Crist Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:35:19 -0500 To: Ben Washington-Yule X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.75.1, clamav-milter version 0.75c on grog.secure-computing.net X-Virus-Status: Clean cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Receving two copies of message in this mailing list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:36:22 -0000 --Apple-Mail-1--535364735 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Oct 17, 2004, at 5:17 AM, Ben Washington-Yule wrote: > I have found that I am sent two copies of any message replying to a > question I have asked; they are identical except one has this footer: > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Have I got an incorrect setting? No, there is nothing you have set wrong. Most people, when replying to messages in this list, hit the 'reply-all' button. This copies a message to your personal address, as well as the list address. There are many people that submit questions to this list without ever subscribing. HTH ----- Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks --Apple-Mail-1--535364735 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkFyn0cACgkQRAAY9knOW+rWMwCeJDZBhbqTYzdkmB4iorSwEx/K EJMAoJEcP2XO7JifSUGeR8QKHqn48mFZ =X01K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-1--535364735-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 16:50:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC5BA16A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:50:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.llorien.org (mail.llorien.org [212.88.225.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F7043D53 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:50:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from h=freebsd-questions=freebsd.org=qxosxxes@erathia.be) Received: from localhost (mail.llorien.org) [127.0.0.1] by mail.llorien.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA:16) id=1CJEEi-0002iU-W2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:50:27 +0200 Received: from [213.118.66.12] (helo=D576420C.kabel.telenet.be) by mail.llorien.org with asmtp (SSL 3.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_MD5:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1CJEEi-0002iQ-9T for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:50:24 +0200 From: h To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:50:34 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <41729E48.3080806@dreamchaser.org> In-Reply-To: <41729E48.3080806@dreamchaser.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410171850.34808.h@erathia.be> X-Authenticated-Sender: h X-Spam-Score: 1.6 Subject: Re: 4.10 startup sequencing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:50:31 -0000 i'm not sure about the order but have you tried rc.local ? On Sunday 17 October 2004 18:31, Gary Aitken wrote: > Hello all, > > Since 4.10 doesn't use /etc/rc.d to merge standard and local startup > sequencing, I'm wondering what the right way is to get a daemon to > start up before one of the standard daemons. Specifically, I would > like to start a milter before sendmail. I know it will work if > started afterwards, or at least it seems to, but I would like to get > rid of the WARNING message posted to the console at startup because > the socket isn't present when sendmail starts. > > I don't see a way to do this short of modifying /etc/rc. > Is there a better way, or should I just live with the warning until > upgrading to 5.x, where /etc/rc.d and /usr/local/etc/rc.d sequencing > hints are merged? > > Gary > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 16:53:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19BDD16A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:53:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dnsmail3.ior.navy.mil (noca.ior.navy.mil [205.56.210.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E871D43D49 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:53:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil) Received: from cg69ubd01.vicksburg.navy.mil ([205.95.65.21]) i9HGpmE5008218; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:51:53 GMT Received: by CG69UBD01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id <4QZ74W4G>; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:56:42 +0300 Message-ID: From: JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil To: garya@dreamchaser.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:56:36 +0300 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Subject: RE: 4.10 startup sequencing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:53:58 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Aitken [mailto:garya@dreamchaser.org] > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 6:31 PM > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: 4.10 startup sequencing > > > Hello all, > > Since 4.10 doesn't use /etc/rc.d to merge standard and local startup > sequencing, I'm wondering what the right way is to get a daemon to > start up before one of the standard daemons. Specifically, I would > like to start a milter before sendmail. I know it will work if > started afterwards, or at least it seems to, but I would like to get > rid of the WARNING message posted to the console at startup because > the socket isn't present when sendmail starts. > > I don't see a way to do this short of modifying /etc/rc. > Is there a better way, or should I just live with the warning until > upgrading to 5.x, where /etc/rc.d and /usr/local/etc/rc.d sequencing > hints are merged? > > Gary You could remove all the startup scripts from rc.conf and put them in numbered order in /usr/local/etc/rc.d 010.milter 020.sendmail 030.etc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 16:58:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 284C516A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:58:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sjc.ihostsxode.net (sjc.ihostsxode.net [129.41.16.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD78643D4C for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:58:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@mark-and-erika.com) Received: from millerlite.local.mark-and-erika.com ([151.205.245.38]) by sjc.ihostsxode.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9HGwHWn016502 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:58:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from millerlite.local.mark-and-erika.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) id i9HGwGHB058931 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:58:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mark@mark-and-erika.com) Received: (from mfrank@localhost)i9HGwGrc058930 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:58:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mark@mark-and-erika.com) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:58:15 -0400 From: Mark Frank To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041017165815.GE98300@millerlite.local.mark-and-erika.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Certified: Outgoing email is certified Windows Free. X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-System: FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: 5.3-STABLE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:58:23 -0000 Yesterday I did a fresh install off of a 5.3beta5 CD and them before going to bed last night I cvsup'ed with a "*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5" and a buildworld/buildkernel/installkernel cycle. I had expected to end up with 5.3beta7 but to my surprise I ended up with a "uname -a" of: FreeBSD guinness.local.mark-and-erika.com 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #0: Sun Oct 17 02:47:12 EDT 2004 root@guinness.local.mark-and-erika.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Do I really have 5.3-STABLE or am I missing something? I can't find any announcement on the freebsd.org web site. Is this really 5.3-STABLE? I assumed there would be a 5.3-RC1...or is this it? Mark -- Mark Frank "The fix is only temporary...unless it works." - Red Green From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 17:11:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB7116A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:11:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from biggie.spekt.net (biggie.spekt.net [67.18.79.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF4C43D48 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:11:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from radek@raadradd.com) Received: from raadradd.homeunix.org (bwj145.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.29.233.145]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by biggie.spekt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0ED3FA1; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:11:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: by raadradd.homeunix.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EE072A55B; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:11:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:11:42 +0200 From: Radek Kozlowski To: Mark Frank Message-ID: <20041017171142.GC37640@werd> References: <20041017165815.GE98300@millerlite.local.mark-and-erika.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041017165815.GE98300@millerlite.local.mark-and-erika.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3-STABLE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:11:40 -0000 On Sun, Oct 17, 2004 at 12:58:15PM -0400, Mark Frank wrote: > Yesterday I did a fresh install off of a 5.3beta5 CD and them before > going to bed last night I cvsup'ed with a "*default release=cvs > tag=RELENG_5" and a buildworld/buildkernel/installkernel cycle. > > I had expected to end up with 5.3beta7 but to my surprise I ended up with > a "uname -a" of: > > FreeBSD guinness.local.mark-and-erika.com 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #0: > Sun Oct 17 02:47:12 EDT 2004 > root@guinness.local.mark-and-erika.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > Do I really have 5.3-STABLE or am I missing something? I can't find > any announcement on the freebsd.org web site. Is this really > 5.3-STABLE? I assumed there would be a 5.3-RC1...or is this it? http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-src/2004-October/033698.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-src/2004-October/033702.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-src/2004-October/033703.html -Radek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 17:14:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C0016A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:14:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.llorien.org (mail.llorien.org [212.88.225.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0F343D66 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:14:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from h=freebsd-questions=freebsd.org=qxosxxes@erathia.be) Received: from localhost (mail.llorien.org) [127.0.0.1] by mail.llorien.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA:16) id=1CJEby-00030N-DD for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:14:29 +0200 Received: from [213.118.66.12] (helo=D576420C.kabel.telenet.be) by mail.llorien.org with asmtp (SSL 3.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_MD5:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1CJEbx-00030B-Uf for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:14:26 +0200 From: h To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:14:35 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410171914.35875.h@erathia.be> X-Authenticated-Sender: h X-Spam-Score: 1.6 Subject: how can install i libexif-gtk in 4.10 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:14:30 -0000 i need to install libexif-gtk for gtkam on my laptop but it won't build: cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../intl -I../gtk-extensions -I/usr/local/in clude/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/u sr/local/include/libexif -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/ X11R6/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/pango-1.0 -I/u sr/local/include/freetype2 -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"libexif\" -I/usr/local/include -O -pip e -Wall -Wchar-subscripts -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-ext erns -Wpointer-arith -c gtk-exif-content-list.c -Wp,-MD,.deps/gtk-exif-content-lis t.TPlo -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/gtk-exif-content-list.lo gtk-exif-content-list.c: In function `update_foreach_func': gtk-exif-content-list.c:376: too few arguments to function `exif_entry_get_value' gtk-exif-content-list.c: In function `gtk_exif_content_list_add_entry': gtk-exif-content-list.c:403: too few arguments to function `exif_entry_get_value' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/libexif-gtk/work/libexif-gtk-0.3.3/libexif-gtk. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/libexif-gtk/work/libexif-gtk-0.3.3. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/libexif-gtk/work/libexif-gtk-0.3.3. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/libexif-gtk. i tried to pkg_add -r the package, but there is none. how can i install it on 4.10 ? my world and ports are up to date. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 17:15:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7EE16A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:15:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.praemunio.com (mail.praemunio.com [66.179.47.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A8E4E43D48 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:15:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@knobbe.us) Received: from localhost (HELO mail.knobbe.us) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Oct 2004 12:15:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (HELO ??) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Oct 2004 12:15:50 -0500 From: Frank Knobbe To: asolomon15 In-Reply-To: <416E9E8E.3030405@nyc.rr.com> References: <416E9E8E.3030405@nyc.rr.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-PjaAGNWmOMwMA2q5FEtQ" Message-Id: <1098033347.547.5.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:15:48 -0500 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: placing syslogd logs into postgresql X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:15:52 -0000 --=-PjaAGNWmOMwMA2q5FEtQ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2004-10-14 at 10:43, asolomon15 wrote: > Does anyone know of any scripts or programs that can place syslogd logs=20 > into database tables? Not syslogd, but syslog-ng. http://kdough.net/docs/syslog_postgresql/ Regards, Frank --=-PjaAGNWmOMwMA2q5FEtQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBcqjDJjGc5ftAw8wRAh9fAJ9mUkvLrCFSt8q29wRoEsbiR+SzKACgxMKa gdvYb9ENtdtGCe/pM1Hv/+U= =GcoE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-PjaAGNWmOMwMA2q5FEtQ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 17:16:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4867A16A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:16:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.broadpark.no (mail.broadpark.no [217.13.4.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C78EC43D2F for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:16:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from henrik.w.lund@broadpark.no) Received: from [10.0.0.3] (52.80-202-129.nextgentel.com [80.202.129.52]) by mail.broadpark.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id C123F628D for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:17:29 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <4172A813.4080007@broadpark.no> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:12:51 +0200 From: Henrik W Lund User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041013 X-Accept-Language: no, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <417183FE.1000102@atopia.net> <41724FE4.20506@broadpark.no> <20041017172502.P872@maren.thelosingend.net> In-Reply-To: <20041017172502.P872@maren.thelosingend.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: accidental fdisk -BI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:16:44 -0000 Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > [Henrik W Lund, 2004-10-17] > >> What this means is that any other slices you had on the disk will be gone. I >> don't know what disk layout you had, but something tells me that you may have >> erased /usr, /var and /tmp (if you used the default fdisk layout when >> installing FreeBSD, that is). I'm no expert, but I think this _can_ lead to >> complications. > > > Note that BIOS partitions are not the same as BSD partitions. The former > is known as slices in BSD. fdisk -BI /dev/da0 will initialize the disk for > one *slice* covering the whole disk. BSD partitions inside this slice will > not be afflicted, so /usr, /var and /tmp are probably still intact as > well :) > > If there were other slices on the disk (bios partitions) the original > partition table may be recovered using sysutils/gpart. > > > Svein Halvor Thanks for that clarification! Note to self: slices = BIOS partitions partitions = "BSD partitions" residing on slices Let there be no doubt in my mind! :-D -- Henrik W Lund From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 17:20:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77EB916A4D3 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:20:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.broadpark.no (mail.broadpark.no [217.13.4.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB1043D5A for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:20:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from henrik.w.lund@broadpark.no) Received: from [10.0.0.3] (52.80-202-129.nextgentel.com [80.202.129.52]) by mail.broadpark.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id D831C6329; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:21:15 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <4172A8F5.8030803@broadpark.no> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:16:37 +0200 From: Henrik W Lund User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041013 X-Accept-Language: no, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Neustrup References: <417007E2.1010801@idiom.com> <41700CEE.8070707@broadpark.no> <4172A80F.7050403@idiom.com> In-Reply-To: <4172A80F.7050403@idiom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gcc34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:20:31 -0000 Chris Neustrup wrote: > Henrik W Lund wrote: > >> Chris Neustrup wrote: >> >>> I am trying to upgrade from 5.2.1 to 5.3 current. I am > > .... > >> Greetings! >> >> Don't know how you can fix this, but you don't need to install gcc3.4 >> from ports. Upgrading from 5.2.1 to 5.3 can be done in the make >> buildworld, make buildkernel, make installkernel, make installworld >> procedure outlined in the handbook. The buildworl target will populate > > > Hi Henrik, > I got as far as the make buildworld, and then an X11 failure > occurred: > > ===> gnu/usr.bin/groff/font/devX75 > ===> gnu/usr.bin/groff/font/devX75-12 > ===> gnu/usr.bin/groff/font/devascii > rm -f /usr/ports/x11-fonts DESC > rm: /usr/ports/x11-fonts: is a directory > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/font/devascii. > > > This has happened before when I was doingsome X11 upgrades. Do > you see anything wrong with this? > > Peace, cn. Hmm... Cryptic make failures like that are puzzling. The best advice I can give is to clean out cruft from earlier builds by doing: cd /usr/src && make cleanworld then trying again. If that doesn't work, try cvsupping again to pull some fresh sources. If that doesn't work /either/, I'm all out of ideas, sorry. :-( Maybe someone more intimate with the build procedure can shed some light? -- Henrik W Lund From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 17:46:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD0316A4CF for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:46:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from server1.aaawebsolution.com (aaawebsolution.com [209.61.189.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C161E43D55 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:45:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tscrum@aaawebsolution.com) Received: from wolf (68-64-190-25.atlsfl.adelphia.net [68.64.190.25]) (authenticated)i9HHjwM25813 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:45:58 -0500 From: "Thomas S. Crum" To: Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:45:45 -0400 Message-ID: <013501c4b471$278c3260$0200a8c0@wolf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2742.200 Importance: Normal Subject: mod_ssl and mod_php4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:46:00 -0000 I started by installing the pkg apache w/ mod_ssl. When I attempt to install mod_php4 or /lang/php4 it wants to reinstall apache w/out ssl and fails because an apache package is already on the system. Any advice in getting apache w/ ssl and php installed using pkgs? Best, =A0 Thomas S. Crum From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 18:41:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC8216A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:41:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7909D43D1D for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:41:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id e.1f3.10ada5c (14374); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:40:56 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <1f3.10ada5c.2ea416b8@aol.com> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:40:56 EDT To: racerx@makeworld.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The release of 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:41:09 -0000 I don't see how they can possible consider the "Release" of an O/S version when perhaps the most widely-available NIC (em) doesn't work. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 18:45:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5965316A4CF for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:45:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E621C43D2D for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:45:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oliverfuchs@onlinehome.de) Received: from [212.227.126.155] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1CJG2L-0006vL-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:45:45 +0200 Received: from [217.246.200.244] (helo=oliverfuchs.onlinehome.de) (TLSv1:EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1CJG2I-0000v2-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:45:44 +0200 Received: from oliverfuchs.onlinehome.de (localhost.bob.de [127.0.0.1]) i9HIjbAj001546 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:45:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliverfuchs1@oliverfuchs.onlinehome.de) Received: (from oliverfuchs1@localhost)i9HIjaDD001545 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:45:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliverfuchs1) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:45:35 +0200 From: Oliver Fuchs To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041017183349.GA1021@oliverfuchs.onlinehome.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041017132420.GA1896@oliverfuchs.ath.cx> <20041017141525.GB37640@werd> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041017141525.GB37640@werd> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:c2b2791553508cc938db2bcf18721a3c Subject: Re: tar a complete drive excluding one directory (solved) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:45:46 -0000 On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, Radek Kozlowski wrote: > On Sun, Oct 17, 2004 at 03:24:45PM +0200, Oliver Fuchs wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I want in FreeBSD RELEASE 5.2.1 tar a complete / system except one directory > > e.g. /mnt where I want to store the tar archive. > > In linux I do: > > > > cd / > > tar cvzf /mnt/root.bak-$(date +%Y%m%d).tar.gz . --exclude=proc --exclude=mnt > > > > Trying this in FreeBSD is not accepted because tar is still trying to tar > > the /mnt directory and the to be made archive. > > Try: > > # tar --exclude=proc --exclude=proc -cvzf \ > /mnt/root.bak-$(date +%Y%m%d).tar.gz . > > -Radek Yes, thanx - that did the trick. I only wonder why tar is on one side accepting this order and on the other side it isn't. What I did was: I copied the whole drive via: cd / tar cf - bin | ( cd /mnt/freebsd ; tar xvf) tar cf - boot | ( cd /mnt/freebsd ; tar xvf) ... Until know (I rebooted the new drive with the copied system) no errors occured except one that the file modes/permissions of directories /tmp and /var/tmp seemed to have changed because e.g. kde could not start anymore saying that it has no permissions to use tmp. So thanx again for helping and answering Oliver -- ... don't touch the bang bang fruit From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 18:50:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C6316A512 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:50:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD2843D5F for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:50:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7FCB751342; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:50:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:50:19 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: h Message-ID: <20041017185019.GA71495@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200410171914.35875.h@erathia.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gKMricLos+KVdGMg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200410171914.35875.h@erathia.be> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how can install i libexif-gtk in 4.10 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:50:32 -0000 --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 17, 2004 at 07:14:35PM +0200, h wrote: > i need to install libexif-gtk for gtkam on my laptop but it won't build: >=20 > cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../intl -I../gtk-extensions=20 > -I/usr/local/in > clude/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/inc= lude=20 > -I/u > sr/local/include/libexif -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.= 0=20 > -I/usr/ > X11R6/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/pango= -1.0=20 > -I/u > sr/local/include/freetype2 -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=3D\"libexif\" -I/usr/local/incl= ude -O=20 > -pip > e -Wall -Wchar-subscripts -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-prototypes=20 > -Wnested-ext > erns -Wpointer-arith -c gtk-exif-content-list.c=20 > -Wp,-MD,.deps/gtk-exif-content-lis > t.TPlo -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/gtk-exif-content-list.lo > gtk-exif-content-list.c: In function `update_foreach_func': > gtk-exif-content-list.c:376: too few arguments to function=20 > `exif_entry_get_value' > gtk-exif-content-list.c: In function `gtk_exif_content_list_add_entry': > gtk-exif-content-list.c:403: too few arguments to function=20 > `exif_entry_get_value' > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/libexif-gtk/work/libexif-gtk-0.3.3/libexif-gt= k. > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/libexif-gtk/work/libexif-gtk-0.3.3. > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/libexif-gtk/work/libexif-gtk-0.3.3. > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/libexif-gtk. >=20 >=20 > i tried to pkg_add -r the package, but there is none. >=20 > how can i install it on 4.10 ? my world and ports are up to date. The port doesn't build, you should talk to the authors about fixing it to work with the new libexif. Kris --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBcr7qWry0BWjoQKURAqe4AKCD0roTlpjXBnLBJXs+kpoha32ayQCg8JO1 1NvMyQC4UMQAq96kZQMd+/w= =DDWh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gKMricLos+KVdGMg-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 18:51:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD0E116A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:51:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7374343D1D for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:51:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EB34351448; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:51:27 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Henrik W Lund Message-ID: <20041017185127.GB71495@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <417007E2.1010801@idiom.com> <41700CEE.8070707@broadpark.no> <4172A80F.7050403@idiom.com> <4172A8F5.8030803@broadpark.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1LKvkjL3sHcu1TtY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4172A8F5.8030803@broadpark.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: Chris Neustrup cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gcc34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:51:30 -0000 --1LKvkjL3sHcu1TtY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Oct 17, 2004 at 07:16:37PM +0200, Henrik W Lund wrote: > >Hi Henrik, > > I got as far as the make buildworld, and then an X11 failure > >occurred: > > > >===> gnu/usr.bin/groff/font/devX75 > >===> gnu/usr.bin/groff/font/devX75-12 > >===> gnu/usr.bin/groff/font/devascii > >rm -f /usr/ports/x11-fonts DESC > >rm: /usr/ports/x11-fonts: is a directory > >*** Error code 1 > > > >Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/font/devascii. > > > > > >This has happened before when I was doingsome X11 upgrades. Do > >you see anything wrong with this? The only thing I can think of is that you have environment pollution. buildworld has nothing to do with ports, nor X11. Kris --1LKvkjL3sHcu1TtY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBcr8vWry0BWjoQKURAvSTAKC0M7TfrYZSDKhGg3VfaA/Fnj7YlQCg21+g LDJMfMWutMaHPZG0urnqbeY= =fU0H -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1LKvkjL3sHcu1TtY-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 18:53:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904DF16A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:53:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.llorien.org (mail.llorien.org [212.88.225.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0579543D54 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:53:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from h=freebsd-questions=freebsd.org=qxosxxes@erathia.be) Received: from localhost (mail.llorien.org) [127.0.0.1] by mail.llorien.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA:16) id=1CJG9t-0003x2-Km; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:53:36 +0200 Received: from [213.118.66.12] (helo=D576420C.kabel.telenet.be) by mail.llorien.org with asmtp (SSL 3.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_MD5:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1CJG9s-0003wz-9c; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:53:32 +0200 From: h To: Kris Kennaway Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:53:40 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <200410171914.35875.h@erathia.be> <20041017185019.GA71495@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20041017185019.GA71495@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410172053.40905.h@erathia.be> X-Authenticated-Sender: h X-Spam-Score: 1.6 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how can install i libexif-gtk in 4.10 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:53:37 -0000 On Sunday 17 October 2004 20:50, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Oct 17, 2004 at 07:14:35PM +0200, h wrote: > > i need to install libexif-gtk for gtkam on my laptop but it won't build: > The port doesn't build, you should talk to the authors about fixing it > to work with the new libexif. i did yesterday, but go no answer so far i need to install this, is there way to install an older package or something ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 18:55:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1279616A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:55:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F11643D45 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:55:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 88A2D51342; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:55:03 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Ben Paley Message-ID: <20041017185503.GC71495@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200410171238.04809.ben@spooty.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tqI+Z3u+9OQ7kwn0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200410171238.04809.ben@spooty.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Giant and MPSAFE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:55:06 -0000 --tqI+Z3u+9OQ7kwn0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 17, 2004 at 12:38:04PM +0100, Ben Paley wrote: > Hello, >=20 > bash-2.05b$ uname -a > FreeBSD potato.hogsedge.net 5.3-BETA5 FreeBSD 5.3-BETA5 #0: Mon Sep 20=20 > 07:49:52 BST 2004 root@potato.hogsedge.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/POTAT= O =20 > i386 >=20 > I've just noticed a nasty looking message at boot: >=20 > WARNING: debug.mpsafenet forced to 0 as aio requires Giant > WARNING: MPSAFE network stack disabled, expect reduced performance. >=20 > And then subsequently there are a good few references to things being (fr= om=20 > memory) >=20 > [GIANT LOCKED] >=20 > Anyone have any idea what this is about, and if it's actually bad, and ho= w I=20 > can sort it out? Some subsystems have not yet been modified so they take advantage of multiple processors. aio is one of them, and because it interlinks with the network subsystem, if you have it in your kernel you can't make use of smp in the entire network stack. It's unlikely that you really need aio since it's still experimental code, so you can just compile it out of your kernel. Kris --tqI+Z3u+9OQ7kwn0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBcsAGWry0BWjoQKURArDfAJ9MGaG0AfEQggWrIQ6cQdUE1rSpvQCg1GsQ pfcioTPzZy49sda5QAvkuaQ= =EgLy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tqI+Z3u+9OQ7kwn0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 18:55:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B5B16A4CF for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:55:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1FA43D31 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:55:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 424C5519B5; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:55:51 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Yan Wang Message-ID: <20041017185551.GD71495@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NtwzykIc2mflq5ck" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TCFS on FreeBSD (fwd) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:55:55 -0000 --NtwzykIc2mflq5ck Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 17, 2004 at 09:32:44AM -0400, Yan Wang wrote: >=20 > Dear all, >=20 > I tried to port Transparent Cryptographic File System > (http://www.tcfs.it) OpenBSD version to FreeBSD 4.8, but failed. Has > any one tried this before? How much modification is needed? Any info is > appreciated. If someone had done it before, it's likely it would have ended up in the ports collection. Since it hasn't, it's probably non-trivial work. Kris --NtwzykIc2mflq5ck Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBcsA3Wry0BWjoQKURAkHJAKCATHkYZQdpqzFkyTlyoW4bN1cwtgCfRD87 lRwIY8b+JyRCxZ/9QkMKHv8= =xlcQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NtwzykIc2mflq5ck-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 19:09:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD4116A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:09:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dnsmail1.ior.navy.mil (nocb.ior.navy.mil [205.56.210.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E352D43D45 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:09:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil) Received: from cg69ubd01.vicksburg.navy.mil ([205.95.65.21]) i9HJ9CHl021108; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:09:18 GMT Received: by CG69UBD01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id <4QZ74X8R>; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 22:12:33 +0300 Message-ID: From: JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil To: TM4525@aol.com, racerx@makeworld.com Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 22:12:28 +0300 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: The release of 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:09:37 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: TM4525@aol.com [mailto:TM4525@aol.com] > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 8:41 PM > To: racerx@makeworld.com > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: The release of 5.3 > > > > I don't see how they can possible consider the "Release" of > an O/S version > when perhaps the most widely-available NIC (em) doesn't work. Um, what the hell. em the most widely used? I hardly would consider the gigabit eth driver most intel chips the most widely used. rl, ed, fxp by far seem to be the majority of the share I have observed. In fact, I didn't even know the em driver till you mentioned it. Being a network admin and dealing with many and various machines, I see quite a few nics. And as long as the cards work under project-evil which I have heard a feeling they (correct me if I am wrong please so I can update my own list of known to work hardware), seems fair enough to go to release. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 19:18:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551C516A4CF for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:18:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [217.122.132.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8300943D46 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:18:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:18:53 +0200 Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:18:53 +0200 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20041017191853.GA17623@nagual.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i From: dick hoogendijk Subject: vmware3 and spontanious reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:18:55 -0000 I run vmware3 on a FreeBSD-4.10p3 system. I have a Duron-800 processor, so it's a rather slow machine. I have experienced about five sudden reboots, which are unexplained to me. They all happened while my virtual win98se had heavy disk activity. Sometimes transfering files, sometimes while I wanted to start up mozilla in X, outside the vm. It looks like something goes wrong accessing the harddisk. Recently I rebuilded my kernel with HZ=1200 and changed the vmware config file to have vmnet1, vmnet2 etc... The virtual machines are configered "ethernet=custom --> /dev/vmnetx" I wonder: could it be that the instability of my system has something to do with the changed HZ=1200 (default hz=100) or is it better to have a HostOnly vm-machine on /dev/vmnet1 or what? Could somebody suggest me some things to look into, figuring out this strange behaviour. I don't like these reboots at all. -- dick -- http://www.nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.10 ++ Debian GNU/Linux (Woody) + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 19:30:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2B416A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:30:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.llorien.org (mail.llorien.org [212.88.225.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D400743D58 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:30:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from h=freebsd-questions=freebsd.org=qxosxxes@erathia.be) Received: from localhost (mail.llorien.org) [127.0.0.1] by mail.llorien.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA:16) id=1CJGj7-0004SP-AV for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:30:00 +0200 Received: from [213.118.66.12] (helo=D576420C.kabel.telenet.be) by mail.llorien.org with asmtp (SSL 3.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_MD5:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1CJGj6-0004SM-Ju for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:29:56 +0200 From: h To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:30:07 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <200410171914.35875.h@erathia.be> <20041017185019.GA71495@xor.obsecurity.org> <200410172053.40905.h@erathia.be> In-Reply-To: <200410172053.40905.h@erathia.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410172130.07455.h@erathia.be> X-Authenticated-Sender: h X-Spam-Score: 1.6 Subject: Re: how can install i libexif-gtk in 4.10 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:30:01 -0000 at this point it seems the only way to install libexif-gtk successfully is to downgrade my ports tree, and reinstall libexif/libexif-gtk with an older release. but to do this i need to downgrade my whole ports tree. how can i do that ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 19:34:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551F016A4D8 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:34:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.llorien.org (mail.llorien.org [212.88.225.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84D743D49 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:34:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from h=freebsd-questions=freebsd.org=qxosxxes@erathia.be) Received: from localhost (mail.llorien.org) [127.0.0.1] by mail.llorien.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA:16) id=1CJGn0-0004VE-HD for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:34:01 +0200 Received: from [213.118.66.12] (helo=D576420C.kabel.telenet.be) by mail.llorien.org with asmtp (SSL 3.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_MD5:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1CJGn0-0004VB-2y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:33:58 +0200 From: h Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:34:09 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410172134.09164.h@erathia.be> X-Authenticated-Sender: h X-Spam-Score: 1.6 Subject: Fwd: Re: Re: [Libexif-devel] libexif-gtk: errors while trying to compile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:34:02 -0000 =2D--------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: Re: [Libexif-devel] libexif-gtk: errors while trying to compile Date: Sunday 17 October 2004 21:09 =46rom: Lutz M=FCller To: libexif-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: h@erathia.be, kris@obsecurity.org On Sat, 2004-10-16 at 16:13, Pavel Ivanov wrote: > OK. I'm using FC2. With GTK 2.4.7. I have just received a couple of bug reports relating to this. It seems libexif-gtk has not been up to date with both libexif and gtk2. I fixed those problems and released libexif-0.3.4. Get it from http://libexif.sourceforge.net Lutz =2D------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 19:36:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573C316A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:36:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B9543D2F for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:36:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7CB785150E; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:36:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:36:20 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Ben Washington-Yule Message-ID: <20041017193620.GA73706@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <417246A9.3080605@yahoo.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <417246A9.3080605@yahoo.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Receving two copies of message in this mailing list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:36:25 -0000 --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 17, 2004 at 11:17:13PM +1300, Ben Washington-Yule wrote: > I have found that I am sent two copies of any message replying to a=20 > question I have asked; they are identical except one has this footer: >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 > Have I got an incorrect setting? Perhaps, visit the above URL and check your subscription settings. kris --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBcsmzWry0BWjoQKURAv9HAJ9ENeDEQqGCbhl8eGObAuGk7DV7qgCglMMo hbCGK1FeF9kBvszT2P5THmY= =zXbA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 19:44:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61CB16A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:44:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D51C343D3F for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:44:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garya@dreamchaser.org) Received: from [12.32.36.74] (imagination.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.74]) i9HJiSI8000208; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:44:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from garya@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4172CBA5.3050902@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:44:37 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil, h References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.3 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.73]); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:44:29 -0600 (MDT) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.10 startup sequencing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:44:48 -0000 JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil wrote: > You could remove all the startup scripts from rc.conf and put them in > numbered order in /usr/local/etc/rc.d > > 010.milter > 020.sendmail > 030.etc sendmail startup is triggered by mta_start_script in rc, with mta_start_script defaulted in /etc/defaults/rc.conf not from rc.conf, so I'd have to tweak rc anyway to do that. Or are you suggesting setting mta_start_script to null in /etc/rc.conf to prevent its starting "normally", then start it via /usr/local/etc/rc.d? That seems a bit convoluted, but it would work. h wrote: > i'm not sure about the order but have you tried rc.local ? rc.local fires after sendmail has been started > On Sunday 17 October 2004 18:31, Gary Aitken wrote: >>Since 4.10 doesn't use /etc/rc.d to merge standard and local startup >>sequencing, I'm wondering what the right way is to get a daemon to >>start up before one of the standard daemons. Specifically, I would >>like to start a milter before sendmail. I know it will work if >>started afterwards, or at least it seems to, but I would like to get >>rid of the WARNING message posted to the console at startup because >>the socket isn't present when sendmail starts. >> >>I don't see a way to do this short of modifying /etc/rc. >>Is there a better way, or should I just live with the warning until >>upgrading to 5.x, where /etc/rc.d and /usr/local/etc/rc.d sequencing >>hints are merged? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 19:54:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB8716A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:54:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from FoxSurfer.Com (dns1.foxsurfer.com [69.90.8.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A2143D48 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:54:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from daemon@foxchat.net) Received: from [24.172.9.74] (zapper@rrcs-24-172-9-74.midsouth.biz.rr.com [24.172.9.74]) by FoxSurfer.Com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9HJs2Sm088917 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:54:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from daemon@foxchat.net) From: NetAdmin To: JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-q0FGBZcGqAc0rpmiPDlK" Message-Id: <1098042844.30097.8.camel@foxdaemon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:54:04 -0400 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: TM4525@aol.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: The release of 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:54:23 -0000 --=-q0FGBZcGqAc0rpmiPDlK Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Saw the mention of "em nics" and wanted to double check for my own piece of mind... I have a Supermicro SuperServer 5013G-I P4 3.06GHz 1U with Dual Intel 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet that I'm waiting to put 5.3 Release on. =20 http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.2R/hardware-i386.html#ETHERNET shows - Gigabit Ethernet NICs based on the Intel 82542 and 82543 controller chips (gx(4) and em(4) drivers), plus NICs supported by the Intel 82540EM, 82544, 82545EM, and 82546EB controller chips (em(4) driver only) Can I safely presume (without getting flamed) that my nic's will be supported? Regards --=20 NetAdmin for the FoxChat.Net IRC Network. The FoxSurfer Group --=-q0FGBZcGqAc0rpmiPDlK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBcs3cNirmlL8R/7sRAnbbAKCgqYV+/5VrjgPYSfwQqnsg5TkWqACcCqtz kAphjr0e/8aRDLs1WkQ0HFU= =UwJF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-q0FGBZcGqAc0rpmiPDlK-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 20:05:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E62716A4CF for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:05:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ferengi.borderworlds.dk (ferengi.borderworlds.dk [80.166.152.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B12943D48 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:05:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xi@borderworlds.dk) Received: from borg.borderworlds.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ferengi.borderworlds.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F7BB810 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 22:04:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: by borg.borderworlds.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 583B3B87B; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 22:04:59 +0200 (CEST) Sender: xi@borderworlds.dk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1f3.10ada5c.2ea416b8@aol.com> From: Christian Laursen Date: 17 Oct 2004 22:04:59 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1f3.10ada5c.2ea416b8@aol.com> Message-ID: <86zn2lkt5g.fsf@borg.borderworlds.dk> Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: The release of 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:05:02 -0000 TM4525@aol.com writes: > I don't see how they can possible consider the "Release" of an O/S version > when perhaps the most widely-available NIC (em) doesn't work. [xi@borg ~]$ uname -a [22:03] FreeBSD borg.borderworlds.dk 5.3-RC1 FreeBSD 5.3-RC1 #29: Sun Oct 17 12:40:51 CEST 2004 root@borg.borderworlds.dk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BORG i386 [xi@borg ~]$ dmesg | grep em0 [22:03] em0: port 0xd400-0xd43f mem 0xdfea0000-0xdfebffff,0xdfec0000-0xdfedffff irq 10 at device 13.0 on pci2 em0: Speed:N/A Duplex:N/A em0: Link is up 100 Mbps Full Duplex em0: port 0xd400-0xd43f mem 0xdfea0000-0xdfebffff,0xdfec0000-0xdfedffff irq 10 at device 13.0 on pci2 em0: Ethernet address: 00:10:dc:da:7f:5e em0: Speed:N/A Duplex:N/A em0: Link is up 100 Mbps Full Duplex It works pretty well for me. -- Christian Laursen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 20:09:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3322F16A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:09:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BCAD43D4C for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:09:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 81D265150E; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:09:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:09:03 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: NetAdmin Message-ID: <20041017200903.GA74571@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <1098042844.30097.8.camel@foxdaemon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1098042844.30097.8.camel@foxdaemon.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: TM4525@aol.com cc: JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The release of 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:09:05 -0000 --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 17, 2004 at 03:54:04PM -0400, NetAdmin wrote: > Saw the mention of "em nics" and wanted to double check for my own > piece of mind... I have a Supermicro SuperServer 5013G-I P4 3.06GHz 1U > with Dual Intel 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet that I'm waiting to put 5.3 > Release on. =20 > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.2R/hardware-i386.html#ETHERNET shows - > Gigabit Ethernet NICs based on the Intel 82542 and 82543 controller > chips (gx(4) and em(4) drivers), plus NICs supported by the Intel > 82540EM, 82544, 82545EM, and 82546EB controller chips (em(4) driver > only) > Can I safely presume (without getting flamed) that my nic's will be > supported? If they work in 4.x, they'll work in 5.x. Kris --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBctFfWry0BWjoQKURAt4fAJ4h7ZZThnv6fzfP+YYtg0V/EZvuSQCeOxfP fUACv/qcOK64vXnKBpUHme0= =Kleo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 20:17:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC56616A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:17:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.131.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585D743D39 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:17:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.131.177]) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27631017A; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:17:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.131.37]) [66.133.131.177]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 15147-100-14; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:17:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (67-137-46-138.dsl2.elk.ca.frontiernet.net [67.137.46.138]) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C09AFF73; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:17:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.25] (lugalong.mykitchentable.net [192.168.1.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C5B3BF38F; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4172D346.4070601@mykitchentable.net> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:17:10 -0700 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: synrat References: <416B29BC.6080108@wirewalk.org> In-Reply-To: <416B29BC.6080108@wirewalk.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms000502010903020702010108" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) (Debian) at filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dummyn