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Date:      Wed, 14 Sep 2016 12:44:06 -0700
From:      Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>
To:        marino@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r422154 - head/misc/fortune_strfile
Message-ID:  <e2accd31-64bf-014a-d182-ab21c07ebf9b@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <2be2dfc7-2be7-aaf3-7510-58279dea9e37@marino.st>
References:  <201609141925.u8EJPJb8077087@repo.freebsd.org> <2be2dfc7-2be7-aaf3-7510-58279dea9e37@marino.st>

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From: Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>
To: marino@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org,
 svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <e2accd31-64bf-014a-d182-ab21c07ebf9b@FreeBSD.org>
Subject: Re: svn commit: r422154 - head/misc/fortune_strfile
References: <201609141925.u8EJPJb8077087@repo.freebsd.org>
 <2be2dfc7-2be7-aaf3-7510-58279dea9e37@marino.st>
In-Reply-To: <2be2dfc7-2be7-aaf3-7510-58279dea9e37@marino.st>

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On 9/14/16 12:28 PM, John Marino wrote:
> On 9/14/2016 14:25, Bryan Drewery wrote:
>> Author: bdrewery
>> Date: Wed Sep 14 19:25:19 2016
>> New Revision: 422154
>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/422154
>>
>> Log:
>>   Mark deprecated as it has no maintainer and is already in base.
>>
>>   With hat:    portmgr
>>
>=20
>=20
> Really?
>=20
> Very mature and classy.
> I solved a problem and you're flexing muscles.
>=20
> Are all portmanagers on board with this?
>=20
> John
>=20
> P.S.  If you want, I'll get into a commit war and take it back. You'll =
win.
>=20

Ports need maintainers.  It is standard practice to deprecate ports
without a maintainer, though usually after a much longer time frame.  We
can either do this right away or let this rot for that period and waste
time on the package build cluster.  Portmgr's who have weighed in on
this are in agreement that the port never should have been committing
and dropped like it was, and there is growing consensus that it should
just be deleted.  So I've marked it deprecated.

It's also questionable why we need this at all since it is in base
already and is not receiving updates.  If we had a packaged base system
it would perhaps make sense to have a port, but we're not there yet.  I
have not seen any valid justification for the port in the first place.

Also, there are no "laws" here except for the CoC.  There are only
conventions and guidelines, and portmgr has the ultimate say over ports
as a whole.  This clearly was committed/dropped against the spirit of
the conventions, regardless of any pedantic reading of any guideline.

--=20
Regards,
Bryan Drewery


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