Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 22:46:46 +0100 From: Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.net> To: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> Cc: Paul Mather <paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu>, Robert Clausecker <fuz@fuz.su>, freebsd-arm <freebsd-arm@freebsd.org>, freebsd-arch <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: arm64 as Tier 1 for FreeBSD 13 Message-ID: <20200129224646.57f8da72786afedcddd6fe75@bidouilliste.net> In-Reply-To: <84926.1580333803@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <CAPyFy2Aa6Uj0nyQ1Y_KPLd7%2BROJ4xW5i-SpctV1sRVK_BivPHw@mail.gmail.com> <CAPyFy2D91v7SwjZOgMG0a9V%2BH6GVCF8NHKp341N8mwnCvA71cA@mail.gmail.com> <CAPyFy2BP3hFHuFJyo2M-5pc0%2BCmRiyym1TZ81P5xicR4zED1JQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAPyFy2BXWPVOJo%2BGOf83sZFrPHE80-QvdHeWrhi%2BTdj0KDnThg@mail.gmail.com> <17938.1575444597@critter.freebsd.dk> <20191204092402.GA82492@fuz.su> <D140BA2A-71F3-4574-9015-675950705AF2@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> <78425.1580332298@critter.freebsd.dk> <20200129222907.3ccaf4c23fe8509e3f9cdfe4@bidouilliste.net> <84926.1580333803@critter.freebsd.dk>
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On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 21:36:43 +0000 "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> wrote: > -------- > In message <20200129222907.3ccaf4c23fe8509e3f9cdfe4@bidouilliste.net>, Emmanuel Vadot writes: > > >> RPi's are a LOT easier to get hold of for hackers and in particular > >> for educators. > > > > In what way ? > > Real answer only. > > 1. Schools can get them through their usual suppliers of educational > material, with a pretty decent discount, and with educational > courses and materials, pretty much ready to go. Might be true for some countries. > 2. Most "maker-space" atuned electronics pushers carry them. At their peril. > 3. Big electronics pushers carry them. > > In re 1-3: No customs processing of shipment involved. > > 4. Cost, including shipping is below "trivial" threshold in most > organizations. To all those points: you might be right, but without documentation on the hardware (ALL hardware present in the SoC) we will never be relevent on RPI. And having the doc will never happens, we all shoud focus on other SoCs where docs is available. > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 > phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 > FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe > Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com>
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