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Date:      Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:18:19 -0600
From:      Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
To:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
Cc:        Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>, Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in>, "Victor R. Cardona" <vcardona@home.com>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Stallman stalls again
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Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> types:
> At 01:33 PM 3/6/2001, Mike Meyer wrote:
> >Ethics - or lack thereof - are a mudslingers favorite target.
> I see: It follows, then, that if I point out unethical behavior,
> I am mudslinging? Bzzzt.... Sorry, non sequitur.

Yes, going from arbitrary claims that someone unethical to claiming to
point out unethical action is indeed a non sequitor. I'm surprised you
pointed out your own illogical behavior, though.

> > Saying that someone is acting out of hatred and malice in an era
> when hate crimes draw special punishments is mud-slinging of the
> vilest sort.
> Again, non sequitur. My reports of Stallman's attitudes and
> behavior are factually correct and verifiable by many sources. 
> Richard Stallman has expressed his hatred and malice against 
> anyone who profits from creative work -- in particular, from
> writing and selling software -- in many forums, and these traits
> have likewise been documented by many independent sources.

Your grasp of English seems to rival that of Alanis Morissette.
Claiming that actions are taken out of hate is mudslinging, pure and
simple. If your claims happen to be true, then you aren't guilty of
libel, but are still guilty of mudslinging.

The bottom line is that every time I've seen you enter into such a
debate, you inevitably wind up attacking Stallman. Resorting to
attacking the proponents of an idea is always an indication that the
attacker no longer has no way to attack the idea. Which is a fact you
have yet to deal with.

	<mike
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