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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e5sm5915573yhi.12.2012.08.06.14.31.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 06 Aug 2012 14:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3WrX9t1VkJz2CG4F for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 17:31:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 17:31:45 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120806173145.5f4efd66@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20120806214830.27efcf77.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20120805045800.29444.qmail@joyce.lan> <20510.27576.562781.36878@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20120805093320.7b7f0fc4@scorpio> <20120805214321.17a02e43@papi> <20120806081638.1033190a@scorpio> <20120806183717.ed53868f.steve@sohara.org> <20120806214830.27efcf77.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnZ8q0BxCqYqiTC4kAV7fyqECRmCElg1pw36+WXOLSxkNhUj+xSbi97MoiXG4vHt0GTmiLO Subject: Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 21:31:56 -0000 On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 21:48:30 +0200 Polytropon articulated: > On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 19:08:19 +0000, David Brodbeck wrote: > > Now, it's reasonable to argue that in some fields the duration of > > that limited monopoly is too long, given how quickly technology > > advances, but that doesn't mean the concept isn't sound. > > It's also debatable if one of today's most prominent use > of patents is fair: "I tell you! I have patents! You are > infringing! I'm not gonna tell you which patents about > what, but I'll sue all your users!" Of course, if such > a claim enters a court, it might be verified or discarded > (because it's just a claim, nothing applicable). In order > not to "risk" a lawsuit, it seems that spreading FUD is > often the more profitable way of using patents: "I told > you! I have patents! But if you pay me $$$, maybe I won't > sue you and your users. Maybe... but now PAY!!!" How many verifiable (the key word here is verifiable) cases can you name where party A paid party B over an undisclosed patient solely on the bases that party B might institute legal action? -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________