From owner-freebsd-scsi Sat Oct 3 00:36:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA11347 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:36:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA11340; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:36:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA00139 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 09:35:00 +0200 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id AAA04758; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:54:44 +0200 (CEST) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199810022254.AAA04758@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: filesystem safety and SCSI disk write caching In-Reply-To: <199810021929.NAA11650@pluto.plutotech.com> from "Justin T. Gibbs" at "Oct 2, 98 01:23:27 pm" To: gibbs@plutotech.com (Justin T. Gibbs) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:54:44 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Don.Lewis@tsc.tdk.com, freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As Justin T. Gibbs wrote... > >Yuck. Write caching on disks is evil. I've discussed this kind of > >thing at great length with the disk gurus at work. There is consensus: > >write caching is not to be trusted, there are even firmware incarnations > >out there that get confused by a SCSI bus reset and loose track of what > >they have cached. Admittedly this is junk firmware, but it seems to > >happen. > > Your statement doesn't seem to be "write caching is inherently evil", > but "there are many drives with bogus firmware where write caching is > evil". There is a big difference. If you have a sane device and a True, there is a big difference alright. But the problem is that is not easy for an average user to find out how well behaved a disk's fw actuall is. > UPS, write caching is not evil at all. Right. I for one opt for security over a (small ?) performance gain. Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message