From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Apr 6 15:15:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phucking.kicks-ass.org (c-4b3a70d5.022-45-6f72652.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [213.112.58.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B3237B416 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 15:15:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from phucking.kicks-ass.org (localhost.kicks-ass.org [127.0.0.1]) by phucking.kicks-ass.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 58822AF8; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 01:15:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 213.112.58.75 (SquirrelMail authenticated user z3l3zt) by phucking.kicks-ass.org with HTTP; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 01:15:39 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <2659.213.112.58.75.1018134939.squirrel@phucking.kicks-ass.org> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 01:15:39 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: which? From: "Jesper Wallin" To: In-Reply-To: <20020406222239.GB46758@bsdprophet.org> References: <20020406222239.GB46758@bsdprophet.org> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Cc: X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello again.. Well.. If explorer krashes, it will take about 3 seconds until you get a blue screen and need to reboot.. Sure I know that Windows NT/XP/2k is much more stable, BUT, in unix systems you have the difference between root and users which is just a big joke in Windows NT/XP/2k.. Lets say you run a unix system as a user and you get a virus of some kind, the only thing you have access to is your home dir and maybe the /tmp... This will not effect any other user or process.. If you run a Windows NT/XP/2k system as a users you may have the same security BUT, if you want root/admin access you simply use "su" on unix systems which doesn't excist in Windows system at all.. There you have to exit all programs and login as another admin user.. This will "force" you (at least all prople I know who's running Windows) to give them admin access AND make them easier targets for viruses.. In a unix system you can crash nearly how many programs/processes as possible but still you system works fine.. On Windows system nearly all will effect the system and you sooner or later will be forced to reboot.. I prefer running a Unix system because it's much more faster, stable and if you know computers well and are interested in programming you may even can fix the error which crash your computer because it's Open Source! Alot of Unix systems are created and developed because it's fun.. Microsoft Windows are created for one thing, to make money which really sux! Sure both systems works fine and are stable, but thy the hell shall you pay for something you can get for free? Because you trust it more if you pay? Well, on Unix systems you can see EVERYTHING which is going on, on your system.. On M$ Windows systems you only see some of them and the whole system structure make it un-logical and i still doesn't understand why the blue screen excists.. The blue screen is/was made for debugging.. why implentit in the final release? I mean, Amanda 43 won't understand anything at all of what's displayed on that screen.. She will only be pissed and call her technical support at her work.. :) I trust Unix system so much so that day I need a Paese Maker (or how it's spelled) I will force my doctor to run FreeBSD system on it.. It will make me live the 30 next years.. Sure I live 30 years instead of 30 minutes.. //Jesper aka Z3l3zT > Wrong dude! > > The difference is that Microsoft Windows is an Operating System and KDE > is a Window Manager for X Window. > > This is like comparing Apples and Oranges. It can't be done. > > On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 11:05:16PM +0200, Jesper Wallin wrote: >> Well.. I just want to say this.. >> >> The difference between M$ Windows and KDE is that KDE is free and open >> source, M$ Windows is not open source and make you damn poor.. >> >> KDE crashes.. you restart KDE.. >> M$ crashes.. you restart your whole computer.. >> >> When a M$ Windows box crashes, 99% of the rest of you computer will >> crash too and you need a reboot.. KDE (Linux) will may only crash one >> users session but all other users logged in and all other programs >> which is runned will still work fine and stable.. >> >> If I was you, I would choose KDE (or any of the suggested Windows >> Managers).. I prefer Fluxbox and use it everyday without any crash at >> all.. Linux is both free (may will cost you some cash to your ISP and >> for the CD-R record you burn it on..) and it's open source.. A system >> is always able to hack and will never stop crashing.. why pay for a >> system which work as good/bad as all others? >> >> >> Jesper aka Z3l3zT >> >> > Or Ice .... >> > >> > On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 02:14:02PM -0500, Michael de Roche wrote: >> >> Or Blackbox .... >> >> >> >> --- nickw@uidaho.edu, >> >> UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR wrote: >> >> > On 6 Apr, Kliment Andreev wrote: >> >> > -| > MS Windows crashes once a day, KDE >> >> > crashes (with >> >> > -| > a beautifull picture of fire) >> >> > -| > twice a day. Which of them should I choose? >> >> > -| >> >> > -| Choose a typewriter! :) >> >> > -| >> >> > -| >> >> > Or you could just use a different window manager. Try >> >> > windowmaker, >> >> > it's stable. >> >> > >> >> > _Nick >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> >> > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the >> >> message >> >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> >> Music, Movies, Sports, Games! http://entertainment.yahoo.ca >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message >> > >> > -- >> > Scott B. Corey >> > scott@bsdprophet.org >> > irc.openprojects.net #bsdprophet >> > >> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > -- > Scott B. 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