From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 28 14:21:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C98C37B401 for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 14:21:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from argosy.ca (www.argosy.ca [138.73.18.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F35644029 for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 14:21:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hhwoo@argosy.ca) Received: from a7n8x (mctn1-2698.nb.aliant.net [156.34.186.138]) by argosy.ca (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h5SLN8t2039083; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 18:23:09 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from hhwoo@argosy.ca) Message-ID: <001f01c33dbb$6c015070$0200a8c0@a7n8x> From: "Han Hwei Woo" To: "Joe Pokupec" , "Free BSD List" References: Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 18:22:47 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: 11 Hour Installs on KDE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 21:21:39 -0000 RedHat installs KDE as binary packages, wheres FreeBSD ports compiles everything from source. If you want to install the binary package for FreeBSD, either use /stand/sysinstall or pkg_add(1). More information is also in the handbook. Han Hwei Woo http://www.argosy.ca/~hhw ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Pokupec" To: "Free BSD List" Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 5:59 PM Subject: Re: 11 Hour Installs on KDE? > Hey Guys, > > Thanks for your input and explanations. Here's the part I don't understand > (very simplistic view). Both machines previously had Red Hat 9 installed on > them. I decided that I didn't want to pay Red Hat for their up2date feature > on each machine and decided to go back to BSD with a GUI so I could go back > to the trusty, and free ports feature(s)... > > RH9 took less than 15 minutes to install and boot for each machine. It has > the Blue Wave GUI and I would imagine is pretty bloated as well. So, from > this point of view, how can one OS take 15 minutes, while the other take 15 > hours (and counting)? > > The machines are Pentium II, 333Mhz and 400 Mhz units (both are Dells). Each > machine has 256 Megs of RAM, and one of the machines has a 60 gig drive... > > Thanks > > Joe > > > > Joe Pokupec wrote: > >> Hi All, > >> > >> I installed 5.1 on 2 separate machines yesterday. After the general install > >> (which included all the Ports), I went to /usr/ports/x11/kde3 and did a: > > > > What are these machines? Processor? RAM? > > > >> make install clean after reading tfm. > >> > >> The install has been going for over 11 hours now. It's not hung up, the text > >> is scrolling by... On both machines... > >> > >> Is there something I should know? > > > > Yes, KDE is big ... Huge ... Like ... try to imagine more code than you > > could ever imagine, and KDE might actually be bigger than that. See ... > > if you took the empire state building and put the statue of liberty on top > > of it and put them both underneath the New River Gorge Bridge, the space > > left over wouldn't be as big as KDE. If you took all the code in KDE and > > laid it end to end it would reach all the way to the sun, catch on fire and > > burn your house down (although it would take 8 minutes for the fire to get > > from the sun to your house, so you'd probably be able to get out in time) > > > > The upshot is that KDE could easily take several days to compile if you're > > dealing with less than hefty hardware. Let us know the details of the > > hardware and we'll make some guesses on how long it should take to compile. > > > >> I can re-install 5.1, 5.0, or any version on these machines if necessary, > >> but I'm somewhat curious about this huge length of install time... > > > > I doubt the version of FreeBSD is the cause. Use ALT+F2 to switch to > > another console on one of the machines and run "top" to get an idea of > > what's causing the problem. If the build process is causing a lot of > > swapping, it's probably going to take 6 or 7 years for KDE to build. > > > > > > I am not an insurance salesman, if your house burns down due to anything > > you've read in this email, I make no guarantees that your homeowner's > > policy will cover it. > > I'm also not responsible for personal injury or damage to the statue of > > liberty caused by trying to balance it on top of the empire state building. > > (I still say that damn thing sways when the wind blows!) > > Do not try this at home. Offer void where prohibited. > > > > > > -- > > Bill Moran > > Potential Technologies > > http://www.potentialtech.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >