From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Mar 3 23:39:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.lariat.org (lariat.lariat.org [206.100.185.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CCA414DA4 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 23:39:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: (from brett@localhost) by lariat.lariat.org (8.8.8/8.8.6) id AAA19903; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 00:39:12 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990303120036.0097e260@localhost> Message-Id: <4.1.19990303120036.0097e260@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 12:04:24 -0700 To: Greg Pavelcak From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Guess we've lost the server market too...? Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <19990303084501.A27440@oitunix.oit.umass.edu> References: <4.1.19990303025641.03ef9ba0@localhost> <4.1.19990302210116.009fe670@localhost> <4.1.19990303025641.03ef9ba0@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 08:45 AM 3/3/99 -0500, Greg Pavelcak wrote: >> 1) The Raving Loonies. This is the fun one. You get to go >> totally over the top on public forums, starting flame wars, >> bashing and baiting the competition. Think "Team OS/2," but >> even more out of control. The more fuss this "lunatic fringe" >> makes, the better. The purpose of this group is really not to >> sell the product but merely to draw attention to it; after that, >> the next group takes over. So, it needs to be the most slavering, >> slobbering, fanatical, over-the-top kind of "advocacy" -- >> advocacy which sometimes backfires but GETS ATTENTION. Asbestos >> underwear required to endure flames. >> >I don't see how it can ever be good to become associated with >assholes and morons. No, you don't understand. The "raving loonies" are NOT "assholes and morons," especially from a marketing perspective. Their existence -- and the more the better -- gives the world a sense that the product is something worth being fanatical about. If an OS doesn't have fanatics, the world does not consider it to be worthy of notice or respect at all. The size of the lunatic fringe associated with Linux is largely responsible for its success. >You have this one backwards. You need loyal FreeBSD people to pose >as Linux and Microsoft supporters. These people can appear at >software related events all over the country, always drunk, always >rude, constantly urinating in public. They should especially target >FreeeBSD. Is Jordan willing to be peed on for the cause? Sorry, but that one won't work. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message