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Date:      Tue, 14 Jul 2020 07:08:31 +0100
From:      Steve O'Hara-Smith <>
To:        Aryeh Friedman <>
Cc:        Don Wilde <>, Brandon helsley <>, FreeBSD Mailing List <>
Subject:   Re: Petite Cloud, CBSD, Intellij
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On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 20:46:02 -0400
Aryeh Friedman <> wrote:

> And Java is one the most natural languages I have used

	Yes it can be, but the pile of excremental programming philosophy
that started with EJB, swallowed several books on design patterns (to be
worn on the sleeve in sentence length variable names) has festered for a
few decades since is anything but natural and pretty much requires an IDE
to write. Strangely it is surprisingly easy to write working code in but
remarkably hard to debug when it doesn't work for subtle reasons.

Steve O'Hara-Smith <>

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