Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 23:11:47 -0400 From: Kurt Lidl <lidl@pix.net> To: Zhihao Yuan <lichray@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [GSoC] About the idea: Unicode support in vi Message-ID: <20110324031147.GA73950@pix.net> In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinuQG2ew4R81861Ei7Czds0pGVFaD4ExheFpnnE@mail.gmail.com> References: <AANLkTintkKzW=o%2B7Q53aMSpA1mmqC7aDF1wN8zHY_Wc%2B@mail.gmail.com> <86mxkm1erm.fsf@gmail.com> <AANLkTin3Wki6bnriNgWUy5JC68MDMVc4Y444tGWcKBQ7@mail.gmail.com> <86aaglx1ow.fsf@gmail.com> <AANLkTikLbU--J2aVa00tzxWb9GAvjfGnUGovwYaXXqhp@mail.gmail.com> <AANLkTimKzTrLA%2BW4a73D=aS8fy9npeqvrS8Ua3oNKrjf@mail.gmail.com> <AANLkTin=Y-z-Rt0cnd3MRg0JoSWJmhC3Uh2b32Bosgfi@mail.gmail.com> <AANLkTimDnA6jdj-MR7J2EGAQFn=%2BRrS9h32N5UWkaDUs@mail.gmail.com> <AANLkTinuQG2ew4R81861Ei7Czds0pGVFaD4ExheFpnnE@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 08:20:07PM -0500, Zhihao Yuan wrote: > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Arnaud Lacombe <lacombar@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Zhihao Yuan <lichray@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Among *all* the GNU/Linux distributions I used, they include a vim > >> compiled in tiny mode (ln -s it to vi), which doubles the size of nvi, > >> in their base systems. A vim.tiny contains much more features compared > >> with nvi, but it's not compatible with POSIX vi. > >> > > Let's compare the comparable, I don't really care if PCbsd ship vim as > > its default, but FreeBSD as the base is not only aimed at desktop > > specifically. So you should take into account that I may want to run > > FreeBSD on an adm5120 board with 32MB of RAM, without having a text > > editor consuming too much disk-space/ram. > > > > ??- Arnaud > > If you really want to use vi in a 32MB mem environment, the ex-vi may > make sense. It consumes 1600KB memory while nvi consumes 2000KB. Note > that the ee editor uses same amount memory as ex-vi. > > So basically, if no one disagree that we can drop the infinite undo, > multiple buffer, multiple window and some other potential missing > features, we can replace the nvi in the base system with ex-vi. Please don't do this. I use nvi every day on FreeBSD. I use the multi-level undo daily, and the multiple window feature, if not daily, at least weekly. -Kurt
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