From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 7 16:12:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD20E9A0E1F for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:12:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59C111A38 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:12:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from host-4-75.office.adestra.com (no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id tB7GCo4U064606 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:12:51 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk tB7GCo4U064606 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/tB7GCo4U064606; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged) claimed to be host-4-75.office.adestra.com Subject: Re: [Phishing]Re: Migrating to FreeBSD from Debian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86poyiuynx.fsf@gmail.com> <56659FC8.8020904@FreeBSD.org> <444mfujmpd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> From: Matthew Seaman X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <5665AFFB.9070407@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:12:43 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2pkQBVAcM9t2fJcqCvsnAsl1qToLcOvrx" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 16:12:55 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --2pkQBVAcM9t2fJcqCvsnAsl1qToLcOvrx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2015/12/07 15:54, Daniel Feenberg wrote: > What does the warning mean? That once I have installed a single package= > I can never use ports? So if I want a port, and already have packages, = I > have to uninstall all of the packages first and can never in the future= > install any package? That seems extreme. Or is there a less restrictive= > interpretation that is more correct? Usually the reason for mixing ports and packages is because you want something compiled with non-default options. The difficulty arises when you find that despite all your best intentions, you end up with the default package anyhow, or you end up installing all the dependencies for the default package and not the ones for your customized version, or you end up installing a lot of build dependency things you didn't really want. And then when you go to upgrade, it breaks all over again in similar but not exactly the same way= s. It's loss of control which is the problem. You may be lucky in that it 'just works' with your customizations, or it may become a nightmare of dependency hell from which all right-thinking sysadmins would run away, screaming. 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