From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Thu Oct 17 04:10:41 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA24216D7AA; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 04:10:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from smtp-out-no.shaw.ca (smtp-out-no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46twgg5mVcz3GkG; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 04:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([70.67.125.17]) by shaw.ca with ESMTPA id Kx7Ui0keVUIS2Kx7ViKZ7S; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 22:10:38 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=N41X6F1B c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:117 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=XobE76Q3jBoA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=NOSWdVJw-eKdtt-dyQYA:9 a=aA6ZCiMsjVEVdhMv:21 a=DDg3lIw8BGnepZDI:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy [10.1.1.91]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47B7237ED; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 21:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x9H4AYgr020793; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 21:10:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from slippy (cy@localhost) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id x9H4AYsP020790; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 21:10:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Message-Id: <201910170410.x9H4AYsP020790@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Authentication-Warning: slippy.cwsent.com: cy owned process doing -bs X-Mailer: exmh version 2.9.0 11/07/2018 with nmh-1.7.1 Reply-to: Cy Schubert From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.cschubert.com/ To: Alexey Dokuchaev cc: Ian Lepore , Andriy Gapon , "O. Hartmann" , svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r353565 - in head/sys/cddl/contrib/opensolaris/uts/common/fs/zfs: . sys In-reply-to: <20191017020535.GB8053@FreeBSD.org> References: <201910151509.x9FF9a2B031347@repo.freebsd.org> <20191015175357.3ee91a1c@thor.intern.walstatt.dynvpn.de> <00eaaf1a-392c-29e1-a035-e72c61423fb3@FreeBSD.org> <20191017020535.GB8053@FreeBSD.org> Comments: In-reply-to Alexey Dokuchaev message dated "Thu, 17 Oct 2019 02:05:35 -0000." 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Hartmann wrote: > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > Hash: SHA256 > > > > > > > > Am Tue, 15 Oct 2019 15:09:36 +0000 (UTC) > > > > Andriy Gapon schrieb: > > > > > > Sorry, I got tired before I could scroll to your reply. > > > > You break the build, a user reports it, and a smartass reply is the > > best you can do? > > In Andriy's defense, O. Hartmann could have trimmed the log down to the > relevant build error lines rather than (uselessly) quoting entire diff. > It really takes a while to scroll down these emails of his, especially > on a slow connections. > > Overquoting in general is a big problem on FreeBSD lists, and I don't > know exactly why. It was not like that 15-20 years ago. Agreed. However, for me personally, trimming using my desktop client (exmh2) is simple. If I'm replying using my phone (K-9 mail), trimming is so time consuming and error prone (one wrong finger movement and you start over again, especially while riding the bus to work -- one bump in the road and I'm guaranteed starting over again) that it's next to impossible. As much as I dislike it, top posting might be more acceptable in those circumstances. Otherwise agreed. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.